You know what is really depressing about the Hotel Cascadas?

They have all those pictures of old TJ on the walls of the first floor, including shots of Revo, wide shots of the city in general, and the old, old border crossing.

The problem is that I remember passing through the old border crossing. That kind of dates me!

What size are the beds in the Jaccuzi rooms - twin? double? Queen? King? Thinking of checking it out this weekend and want to bring the proper sheets.

Regarding towels - just bring a couple of beach towels? Will you get extras as they are needed?

Regarding getting ice - do they have to bring it to you or is there an ice machine somewhere? Do you bring a small cooler or do they provide a bucket or something?

How much stuff do you guys haul with you? Do you get all your stuff in a backback/duffel bag or are you walking around TJ carrying a big suitcase?

T Bone,

Check out this discus thread.
ClubHombre.com: Tijuana: -Trip Reports-: 2000/11 StrikeEagle - Special Times in TJ Hotels

Most of your questions are addressed on point. It started with my trip report, but lots of Hombres added their ideas to the discussion.


StrikeEagle

StrikeEagle,

Thanks for referring me to your report - lots of good information. I have a bunch of hotel stuff I was planning on bringing - great tip on toothbrushes - I snagged a handful of them recently in my dentists bathroom before a checkup.

Is it true that they don't have a blanket in their rooms? That was the one piece of bedding that I wasn't planning on bringing.

The blanket situation depends on the time of year and stuff. I've not been to La Zona since Dec, and blanket weren't out then.

Maybe one of the other guys can address if the 'extra' blankets are out, or not. And, I'm not talking about the single 'bed spread/blanket' that all the beds have on them. (Lord only knows how many sessions have been finished on those, since they were last cleaned)


StrikeEagle


StrikeEagle

Not only are blankets out, but management purchased some new 'underblankets' ie the things you put on the bed between the sheets and the top blanket.

They have set up some sort of lobby waiting room at the Miami-side entrance to Cascadas, before you go up the stairs. WHY I have no freakin' clue. Is there THAT MUCH demand for short time rooms there?

This was sparked by the changes in the laws saying all street girls have to be off the street.

Clearly not in effect yet, but I suspect it will be one day....

Have some fun (and some Christmas cheer) for me guy....

Does anyone know if the SG's have a pimp of some sort? I spend all night with one at the Cascadas. While she originally said her time was up at 6am, we woke up at 9am and she freaked out, like she was late to somewhere...going home (she has no kids, just a single SG living with her friend and the friend's husband). She dashed out and just left in a hurry.
During the night she also said she can't go out and eat with me, because some hombre said so...like the police? Strange, you can fuck her but you can't date her. Anyone know why?

Because their boyfriends get really, really mad at them and often pound them into submission.

These chicas work all day or all night, and then hand their $$ to their novios. Its like a disease. Unlike the US, their boyfriends generally don't help them at work (in the USA, pimps watch out for their women on the street, in Mexico, they go off and drink beer).

I have heard of chicas shopping for a new novio (going for an upgrade), but they need to have the new one locked in before dumping the old one, for protection.

Will the girls from AB come to Cascadas, or do they have to use the AB hotel? Seems like a shame if you already have a room at Cascadas.

rm

I have had a few meet me at Cascadas. You've got to ask.

I stayed at the Hotel Cascadas June 6 through June 12. I have high praise for this hotel. The price on Friday and Saturday was $32.50 and the rest of the week is $31.

The rooms themselves were very clean and the showers were newly tiled and the hot water was plentiful. One suggestion I would make is to bring or buy new sheets as the ones in the room look a little ragged. I stayed in room 523 which had two windows which looked out on the south side of the Callejon and the rest of the city. I was moved a few days later to the fourth floor due to a leak in the pipes (somewhere in the hall). The upper floors are desirable because of the musical noise from the clubs.

I talked with Jesus and Joshua (front desk)when I checked in and gave them both a little propina for goodwill sake. They didn't count when I brought up chicas and was never charged extra. Try to space your chica visits out so as not to arouse suspicion because then you will pay extra.

The hotel has room service provided by the "Tres Garcias" restaurant. The hotel staff is courteous and hard working and polite.

I will stay here again and I would recommend it for the location as well. I slept well because I was in the garden among the beautiful flowers of the Callejon.

Viva La Mexico,
Lancer

My love for this place is well documented. It is far and away the best option in the Zona. Unless, of course, all you do is go with AB and CC girls. If so, good luck to you, and buy me many drinks when we meet in the Zona because you have more money than sense.

Porker,

Do they have safety deposit boxes available?

Sandy

No, and neither does any other hotel room I've stayed in in TJ. Of course the Villa Zaragoza is the nicest place I've been to... Gotta leave those valuables at home or in your car.

The lobby room may be some kind of break room for the "Cascadas" girls.

I have seen it when they are hanging out there and how they have set up an altar to the Virgin Mary during a religious time.

concarne

The Real del Rio has in room safes.

For those paying in 'moneda nacional' the current rate is 312 pesos. I considered gettting a room last night but I was told the air conditioning is not currently functioning.

Reytj

I never even knew they had AC.

stayed there last night, AC was functioning intermittently.

gb

There are evidently in the process of adding a/c to the short time rooms as well. I expect a rate increase if they do so ie $5.50 or $6.00 per 15 minutes.

Reytj

What is the weekday rate these days for the night?
also whats the earliest one can check in? I'll be in TJ by ~10:30-11:00am

thanks in advance.....

They will give you lots of static before 11 am, sometimes no rooms are available early, because they are very slow to clean rooms. You might find the hotel empty, but no rooms available!

The rate these days is $31, I believe. Always pay the peso rate in pesos, though.

last night 31 dollars single, 326 pesos=10.51
40 dollars double, 420pesos=10.50
67 dollars jacuzzi, 704pesos=10.507

I don't know if this is in the links section still, but the coupons are good. Taxiballs and I had no problem redeeming them. Only exception was the discounted private dances, the girls get too confused.
http://welcometotijuana.com/coupons4.htm

Bud

I was told a few days ago, by SG "Monica - Woman" that the women who regularly use Cascadas are forbidden by the management of Cascadas from using other hotels.

(Message edited by avisar on January 03, 2004)

My last overnighter (in February 2004) was at Cascades. Listen: If you are used to the standard faire at USA hotels you will NOT rate Cascasdes up there with Motel 6. Jacuzzi bathtubs are nice bu the water will leave you with a scum buildup on your skin and hair. Showere IMMEDIATELY. Do not have sex in the jacuzzi. They do NOT clean them between uses. No more jacuzzi rooms for me. I'll do the double rooms from now on.

Bring your own stuff if you don't trust their sheets, towels (they send them out to be laundered).
The room are not clean by our standards.

Cascades now charges you for bringing the girls up to YOUR room. The first one is free and they charge for every girl after that. Not sure how they police this if you pay the $10.00 deposit for your room key), just tell the girl to go to room #XXX, how can they police that? It is a fact that they now charge. Another turn off.

Look, you're going to another country to get laid. If you chose wisely, you'll do well but don't expect Cascades to play a major part in your mongering. The place is noisy and cold at night (no heat) and they do not have enough blankets on the bed for an all night comfortable stay. You are "roughing it." So be ready for that.

I paid $67.00 for a jacuzzi room and had 2 chicas. It would have been cheaper to use the pay as you go method and then stay at a different place in town for nappies. Any convenience gained by staying at Cascades will be lost to the expense of bringing the girls up.

A tip: If you ask the jizz cleaners and give them a dollar (dig deep!) they'll bring you as many blankets as you want. Jacuzzi room or not.

I tried the link above and it did not work, here is another one

http://www.welcometotijuana.com/alegriadelnorte/coupon1.jpg

So, what are we going to do regarding this new policy that appears as if it will be enforced?

For starters I will bitch in person next week. I just will not stay there...bringing up the chicas was the ONLY reason to stay there. If I need a place to recoup I can stay just about everywhere else.

I will ask to speak with the gerente and explain to him why this will not make sense.

I will also chat with some of the guys I know there and see how strict this thing is.

REMEMBER...this will only work if they perceive that we will not change our MO when in the zona. If, however, we can demonstrate that -yes on occassion we will get a room- but we will curtail or patronage of the place then they will reconsider.

Shit...for that kind of money per chica I would rather hit the girls at Hacienda or the mini. The cascadas chicks are not all that.

If others would like to join me that would work better. I will keep you posted.

Please do!

"Not sure how they police this if you pay the $10.00 deposit for your room key), just tell the girl to go to room #XXX, how can they police that?"

There is nothing to be lost in trying this but Cascadas is crawling with talacheros who have nothing better to do than to grill unaccompanied chicas.

Reytj

I'm not sure if CJ was referring to asking a chica who already lived in Cascadas and had a room there to come to your room, or asking an 'outside' chica to come to your room. This latter alternative is not an option. The hotel staff will stop them, and the chicas know this.

However, nothing prevents a monger from selecting a chica who already lives in the hotel to come to their room, except that this really sucks, for reasons that experienced mongers understand.

I was referring to any chica, not just ones who already live there. I was not aware that they would not allow outside chicas.

I spent part of the night with Diana (Dee-ah-na) and had no problems getting her into the hotel. She walked right in with me and made no attempt to hide or sneak around the establishment, everyone behind the desk saw her. I picked her up in a bar a few doors down from the hotel but that doesn't mean she's not allowed in. I did need to have the room opened because I didn't know I could rent the key for $10.00.

Concarne: Does anyone have the telephone number for the hotel? We can call there and ask them for the name of ANOTHER hotel to stay at since they've adopted this new policy.

Explorer: Hey, if you like the girl, what difference does it make if she stays at the hotel? Maybe I'm not as "experienced" as I think eh? Enlighten me oh experienced mongerers!! I stayed there for ONE NIGHT, give me a break!!

Reytj: I was unaware that they patrol the place looking for outsider girls. Interesting.

Let's hook up and play with this problem and I'll let you in on something else I'm playing with, I'd like some independent feedback. PM me.

I know that I don't have to say this because everyone at CH is nice but I always end my posts this way and I feel like I have to say it and I'd develop some sort of complex if I didn't so. . .

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Hey, just found my receipt from Cascades, here is the phone number: 685-41-22 or 688-20-30.

Let's give 'em a call, shall we?

Countryjohn,

The new Cascadas' policy was just implemented last week. Therefore, any and all experiences you may have prior doesn't apply.

Normally they will not stop you or questioned your guest if they are aware that you are a register guest that night. But any person... chica or chico will not be let past the front desk if they are not accompanied by a hotel guest or aren't living out of that hotel.

That was all before the new policy.

Jesus the day front desk manager had a hard time breaking the news to me but wasn't as strict. He told me that I could bring up one chica for no charge. Or that is the new policy and some of us are getting confused.

That night when I brought up a sg and walked past the oficina. Javier called me back and I told him Jesus said it was ok for me and he looked at Sergio and they both just shrugged their shoulders and I walked away.

Then sunday night I was stopped at the front by a guy who usually works on the security team and I told him she was my first of the night although it was 11pm and he just let me thru.

Furthermore, they do clean the jacuzzi room. Please don't say they don't just based on a guess. I have stayed in a jacuzzi room over 50 times in the past six months and they have let me bring my bags to the room while they are cleaning it.

Lastly, remember when you are in TJ. No two experiences with the same situation will necessary result the same way. YMMV.

take care, silver

Silver, thanks for clarifying the jacuzzi issue. The one in my room looked like it had not been cleaned so I assumed they don't do it every day. Lots of scum around the drain etc.etc. Maybe I got a bad room or something. I'm going back for an all nighter but don't want to stay there if chicas will be a problem. Ever stay on the 5th floor?

"Lots of scum around the drain etc.etc."

Countryjohn,

That's just a combination of "wear and tear" and a half-assed scrubbing by the cleaning boys mi amigo.

I mentioned that they clean the jacuzzi tub but I left out a detail about it not passing the "409" test.

Btw... there's only 5 jacuzzi. One on each floor with each room number ending in 29. 229, 329, 429, 529, and 629. I'm sure I have stayed at the one on the fifth floor a few times.

As far as problems concerning taking the chicas upstair. The only change is the extra charge. If you take a sg upstair for an hour. It would be $20 for the short-time room. Whereas, it's still $5 for any limit on time with your own room.

So there are still some advantages to getting your own room. Everyone need to just re-evaluate there needs vs. costs.

take care, silver

CJ,

Thanks for the number, I think your suggestion is good.

But here is another: if any hombres are around in TJ just walk to the front desk and inquire as to the availability of a room. If you are told they are available, bring up the new policy. Upon being informed kindly state that you would rather stay somewhere else in that case and walk away. Let's do this on Fri and Sat for now, I imagine they really do not give a shit on weekdays but in any case let's keep it to weekends for now.

I will speak with a couple of the managers this coming week and see what is up.

REMEMBER GUYS: will have to put up a fairly coherent and consistent front if we are to have an effect in modifying and/or reversing this policy. This may mean giving up some preferred chica for a while (AND MAKE DAMN SURE TO LET HER KNOW THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOU ARE DOING IT!!)

Frankly, I do not give a shit about the effect on the occasional visitor, no big hit in the pocket really. But for the regulars and semi-regulars this sucks.

WE CAN DO IT! Let's start working on it!

Concarne, let me know how this works. Bottom line for me for the moment is no Cascadas, no TJ.

Silver, they told me the first girl would be free, too, but only if she was present when I registered. They must have micro-modified the policy over the weekend. This means that they will now have to remember how many chicas you have taken up, which defeats the purpose of the new policy.

CJ, the conditions under which a chica in the hotel runs into you is because either her shift is over or she ain't working. If her shift is over she is beat, and not much good,. If she's not working, there's generally a not-good reason for that.

Explorer...no worries...I will keep all of you guys posted.

We will exert the muscle of clubhombre!!

Explorer, thanks for the clarification. Yeah, if they're roaming the halls then they are either between gigs, shifts or lost. When do the shift changes happen?

Concarne, I'm with you. I'll be in the alley on Thursday and will make it a point to go to the desk and start on this. Every where you turn you're getting clipped.

I also agree that there are enough of us leaving money there to make a difference. Fact is we are an organized group and it would be WE that make the machine run smoother for these guys.

I guess there is no shortage of demand but we should at least chime in. I expect to see a fellow mongerer on Thursday and will recuit him to the cause.

What about telling the Cascades girls OK but not at Cascades?

If you are defining 'Cascadas" girl as a SG in front of Cascadas, they cannot leave the area without some problems.

If you are defining Cascadas girl as a club girl, they can roam, but it will cost you.


As for the belief that there are enough clubHombre guys to make a difference, I don't believe that's the case. However, there is some chance that Internet guys plus whatever non-Internet guys simply balk at the new pricing policy may do the trick. The idea of Internet armies is never supported by anyone who has tried to organize in the Real World. For a specific datapoint, check out the Howard Dean campaign (his Internet army in Iowa turned out to be vaporous).

Explorer, amem to the Internet Army. If there is something we can do we should do it. Lurkers or members should join in. This is getting some board time at other sites also so I still believe if we hit 'em with enough complaints we MIGHT make a difference.

You comments regarding the SG's not roaming is an interesting one. So much to learn, so little time, so little money.

I'll report back on their reaction to my shock at their new "policy." It will be an interesting experience.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Contry John

I am going to the zona norte in late March and had planned to stay at the Cascadas. I will not stay there now and will get lodgings elsewhere.

I will write a letter to the hotel manager concerning their unfair price gouging regarding bringing girls up to the room. I am on speaking terms with Jesus and will voice my objection to this new policy. I'll not take any street girls up to the Cascadas. I will remain loyal to my union of the brotherhood of Club Hombre.

Health and Peace, Lancer

It has allready been sometime since I took any girl short time to cascadas. Too quick on the knock and I need at least my 20.

Re the numbers: yes probably not enough but the fact is that even a bit of complaints maybe enough to persuade them.

I mean really why would anyone stay there? Most of the time I end up taking non-cascadas girls even while staying there, if I consider cascadas girls is because I am ALLREADY staying there. Think about this...their chicas will take a hit too..they will bitch too...why should they work there or tell their friends to work there? Their selection is less enticing then it was even 2 years ago when I started patronizing TJ regularly.

We need to bitch by phone, at the desk, to the chicas....WE CAN DO IT!!

I agree we can do it. I will decline several Cascades girls tomorrow and tell them why. That ought to get the balls rolling, then I'll cross the street. Maybe something, maybe nothing but it's at least worth the effort. Think of those who will follow us.

After reading the recent posts re: cascadas here, I'm afraid I agree with Erip and others that this is just the policy that has existed for quite some time and gets enforced, strictly, about once a year. Over a year ago Amemana and I encountered the same crap, where after weeks and weeks of no problems, the guys at the desk who knew us were all of a sudden saying, "only one chica, after that you pay". We confronted Margarito, who is above the average desk jockey, call him mid-management. we both told him seperately and in spanish that we will take our business elsewhere. we pulled out our money as if we were going to pay, explained we were regular customers and surely this will not be enforced on us. He told us to politely go find another hotel that we like better. Amemana told him we will tell others to not do business here, he just smiled and said do whatever you like.
I don't know what good anything we do will accomplish. they make so much money and operate on such a different business scale than a u.s. business, my suggestion is to just try to slide through the cracks of their system that is again being enforced.
If it's a chica in front of cascadas, who probably has easy access in and out, tell her to meet you in the room. If you're bringing in a chica not known to the hotel staff there, bring her in the entrance across from tropical. if a bar girl from miami, LC, HK, also tell them to meet you in the room. Lie, give the desk jerks a candy bar, whatever you need to do. But they ain't going to listen to us.

Curiousone:

You may very well be right re your main points.

1- if this is temp enforcement then whatever we can suffer thru it for a couple of weeks until they get bored.

2-they will likely not listen but part of the reason for that is that they MAY have only listened to the occassional complaint regarding the chica policy. Hey...if we all go and start bitching about it, do something about it and let the chicas know about it as well (see CJ above entry) then they may just think we mean it.

I can just imagine Margarito listening and thinking "well where else are you going to take the pussy where you have a TV with porno and english channels that you can walk to when completely drunk at 4 am in the morning?"

What we have to get across is that we will sleep somewhere else and deal with the longer walk or taxi ride (shit the taxi libre is dirt cheap) Do the math and see how much it cost if you bring up 4 girls in one night...add to that the fact that, likely, you will not be doing all Cascadas SG staff.

Give me a break...pay $30 get 1 chica and then pay another $30-40 to stay at that place? Oh no...I can get a much nicer room for $70 somewhere else. And even if I could not is a matter of principle....we are paying for the fucking room allready!!!

Come on let's give it a shot...UNITED FRONT! If that is not a possibility than fine....let's just drop our pants and let them fuck us over while we are paying them.

Yeah, tomorrow in the alley I will approach several Cascades girls and let them feel my money and then I'll say "Wait, do you use Cascades?" When they say yes (or in this case "Si") I'll say, "...sorry, no Cascades because of the new policy and then go to the next girl.

My point is when the GIRLS start losing money, when they see it walking across the street, they'll see the point. Now the idea is for us in the know to actually DO this. Look, it's their pussy but it's OUR MONEY. We can give it to whomever we want right?

See you in the alley.