This is a link for the discussion of street people. Not street girls, but actual people who hang out around the Zona Norte area and who are known amongst frequent travelers to the area.

With all due respect to past fellow mongers "LaredoJim" and "Krico" who posted about certain street people back in October 30th 2000 on the "Advice/Questions/Commentary" link, I thought I'd take the liberty and open up a new thread specifically for this type of discussion, as I feel it is just as imperative to share in a topic on certain street people that we should all know about.(and should avoid)

Let's see now....who shall I post about first? Ah, I know.....

Texas Mike.

Texas Mike is a male Hispanic, possibly of American origin. He's about 50, 5'5,140 lbs, salt and pepper hair, sometimes tied back in a little pony tail, grey mustache and grey beard. Rough complexion, "gravel" voice. Looks like an aging hippie. Definitely a flower child of the '60's. Obviously did a lot of hard drugs when he was younger, and by the looks of him, still does. Speaks perfect Spanish as well as perfect English. He likes to wear plaid or wool shirts and a baseball cap. Sometimes you'll see him wearing a cowboy hat also. He is a typical con man.

He always hangs out on the south west corner of Coahuila and Constitucion, right by the taco stands. He's always on the lookout for the Gringo who looks lost, so that he can offer his services for a few bucks. Whether you're a frequent visitor to the clubs in the Zona or just a fist timer, there's no mistaking you'll run into him. Or he'll run into you.(Quite literally) "Texas Mike," as he likes to call himself plays a good game of "tour guide," offering special services to the "newbies" in the area. He often warns of pickpockets, crooked cops and bandito's who case the area scouting for unsuspecting tourists. He likes to claim the Zona as his "territory" and also warns against trusting the other street people who offer similar services. It's all about competition with him and the others. He is one guy who literally see's everything that goes on around there.

Texas Mike is a small-time con man, plain and simple. He's street smart. He knows the area. He knows the clubs, knows the merchants and knows most of the street girls. He's also a doper. Which is why I'll never give him money. I wouldn't want to contribute to his drug habit. But I have given him food on occassion because I didn't want to see him go hungry. Sometimes I've seen him slouched up against the wall on the street all strung out on drugs. Sometimes he O.D.'s real bad. You can often see him walk by usually accompanied by a tourist, where he's offering his services as a tour guide to locate the best street girls. He also likes to escort tourists to the nearest ATM's.

Texas Mike is fully aware that he has been the subject of discussion on various internet boards, like ClubHombre and the old Redsnake site, and will often brag about it. He even claims to know what most ClubHombre mongers look like. It's unclear how much of it is true. Just don't believe everything he tells you. I don't engage in conversation with T.M. too much. I try to avoid lengthy conversations with him, as he has in the past proven to be quite annoying with wanting to let you know how well he knows everything that goes on in the area. He promotes his street smarts and is quite proud of the fact that he's "always there to help," as he puts it. He'll help you out as long as you can spare a couple of bucks. Give him a buck, and he'll ask if you can spare $2. Give him $2, and he'll ask if you can spare $5, And so on.

Don't let him talk you into giving him money. If you feel sorry for him, do what I do, buy him a taco, a juice drink and a muffin or something, but I would strongly advise against pissing him off. The last thing you want is to have someone like him against you. It's always best to keep him on your side. The rumor is, he's hiding out in Tijuana because of numerous oustanding Federal felony warrants in the U.S. (quite possibly warrants for possession and use of illegal narcotics) Whatever the reason, he's someone who can assist you in a time of need with translation with a SG if no one else is around. I realize most people view him as a pest, and with good reason. But Texas Mike is someone who can readily make himself available to assist you, as long as you return the favor and help him out. Know what I mean?

Regards,

Master Bates

Christy.

I've been mongering in the Zona on a regular basis for about three or four years now, and have only recently come across a street girl who goes by the name of "Christy." Christy is American, speaks English, of course, but also speaks very good Spanish. She is about twenty-five years old, 5'4-5'5, 110 lbs., very white skin, blue eyes, scrawny looking, dirty blond shoulder length hair. Dirty in appearance. Dirty shabby clothes, lots of scabs, blemishes, bad acne, etc. Her very appearance tells you she's obviously a drug addict. She's the kind of girl who once had very good looks. Street life has definitely taken it's toll with this poor thing. She's the kind of girl who you wouldn't even fuck while wearing two condoms!

She knows everybody in the area. I first ran into her on the north west corner of Couahuila and Constutucion. She asked me if I had any spare change. Instead of contributing to her problem, I offered to buy her food. She gladly accepted. I bought her some chocolate milk from the little convenience store right across from the C.C. and also bought her a couple of taco's from the taco place directly across from the C.C. also.

She was quite pleasant to talk to, telling me all about the Zona and admitting to having a drug problem which kept her on the streets. She talked of Texas Mike and said he is nothing but a clever shake-down artist. She also told me she's originally from the San Diego area and is wanted for warrants on drug charges. I couldn't help but admire her honesty.

She also said she sometimes stays with some old man in his 70's in Tijuana who, as she puts it, "has no need to take Viagra!" She says he keeps her with him when he feels lonely. You will only see Christy loitering around the area once in a while. She said she knows all about the Clubhombre website because somebody who contibutes to the site was "dating" her for a short while and apparently "told all" while they were in bed together. (Wasn't me, Guys. I swear it. I already said I wouldn't fuck her.) Haven't seen Christy in a week or two. But if you happen to see a female white, very dirty clothing, in her 20's hanging out in the Zona asking for change, that's who it is.



Yours in extremely safe sexual practices,



Master Bates.

I generally agree with your comments above with a couple of minor exceptions.

I usually help him out, either with some food or a couple of bucks.

He does know a lot of guys, including a lot of the Internet guys. He has done me a few favors over the years, including helping me to keep track of chicas. He actually helped one chica that he knew I was sweet on once, probably because he knew I would reward him (I did).

This past Thursday I arrived in the Zone about 3:30 PM. As I exited my taxi across the street from Adelitas, guess who was there to welcome me to TJ?

Times are tough in TJ right now, and he saw my taxi arrive and ran across the street to "welcome" me. Within ten minutes of arriving in TJ I knew of half a dozen other board members who were there that afternoon, and that one who I have been trying to meet up with had been there the night before but he woke up with a terrible hang over!

It was funny to feel so "up to date" so shortly after arriving in TJ!

Texas Mike seems to remember little details for a long time, and once he see's you with other guys he will remember them even if he doesn't know their names. He is fuzzy sometimes on time references - thinking, for example, that we had talked just a week or so ago (it was a full month ago).

Marquez ( Hey,Big Man)

Marquez is about twenty-five to thirty years old. 5'7, 5'8, 170lbs., straight black hair in a pony tail. Speaks very good English. Likes to wear white shirts with a tie. Is always seen hawking various bars in the area by passing out flyers. According to a recent posting from some fellow monger, will even promote the Kin Kle bar on occassion, depending on who pays him.

Greets everybody with a "Hey, big man.." Likes to pour out hard luck stories about losing a job, getting evicted from his apartment, etc. The rumor about him is, he's another doper in the area who buys and sells drugs on a regular basis, but has learned to maintain his appearance quite well and is discreet about his second job. I even remember on occassion he asking me if I was looking for quality cocaine.

Always asks that you follow him to a location just outside the Zona for better chica's.(Something I wouldn't advise you on) Can be quite annoying at times with wanting to volunteer information about Zona life and claims to know where all the best chica's are. (yeah, right, Marquez) Don't quit your day job!



Master Bates.

Marquez told me once if I ever get ripped off by a girl to let him know. He said he will get my money back. Now that sounds lovely.

I talked to Franco on Thursday. He looks like HELL. His face was as white as a sheet and he was sweating. He said he was homeless. He seemed to be very reluctant to talk about his situation. The only thing he said about his health was he was having a diabetic problem.

dt

WARNING. I can't remember the name of this street person ...maybe Mike?..but he is about 19 or 20 years old. He's Mexican and speaks perfect English with an East LA cholo inflection. He is tall..maybe 6 feet. He hangs out at the hot dog and taco stand at the corner of Constitucion and COahuila with the other street urchins. He is out mostly at night. He will try to scam $$$ from you by claiming to know of private residential brothels in the nearby Colonias of ZN. He is not to be trusted. He followed me and my bud to the Hotel Nelson where we were staying at. He waited outside until the next morning with several street thugs. My bud and I saw this from the 5th story window that looks into the plaza. "Mike" and the street thugs were hanging out at the Bar Diamante. As soon as my bud and I left Nelson towards the ZN, I saw Mike nod toward the thugs who started following us. We broke off to a more populated part of Constitucion walking away from the ZN. The ass holes followed us for a block or two and then broke off. BE CAREFUL.

Marquez and Texas Mike have both been in trouble with the law in tijuana. By hanging out with him you MAY get hassled by the police and if they find dope on him they find dope on you. Guilt by association is in effect in Tijuana.

I know exactly who you mean. I've been meaning to post about his asshole also. He hangs out a lot outside the Las Chavelas. He goes by various names because he's definitely up to no good. I've also heard him use the name "Mike." For those of you who haven't encountered him yet, he's exactly what Lomgnugent decribed. He has short cropped black hair, medium frame, yet appears to be muscular. Has high cheek bones and a deep hard stare. Medium olive complexion and speaks fluent English, yet he has a slight Spanish dialect. He could easily pass for an East L.A. gang member. He usually wears a blue denim jacket and blue jeans. Sometimes he'll wear a black denim jacket. Always baggy clothing.

He can be quite annoying at times, even when he recognizes a regular monger in the Zona, he makes it a point to walk hurridly up to not just every tourist he see's, but me also and insists on telling me HE is the only one in the area who can get you just about anything you want. He claims to have the best cocaine, and says he can take you to the best young chica's away from the Zona. Don't be fooled. He certainly didn't earn that permanent hard facial look while studying at all hours of the night for the California State Bar exam! By the looks of him, this guy has done some serious hard prison time.

If I get any more info. on him, I'll post. But don't let him fool you into being escorted away from the Zona for better pussy. It could be dangerous. Everything you need is right there in the Zona Norte.

Say "no" to drugs.

Regards,

Master Bates.

Ahora- after meeting you in person at the ClubHombre convention last week, you remind me of a certain celebrity but I can't think of his name right now.

Master Bates

I'm confused. Is Franco and Marquez one and the same person? After reading some of the archive postings, I'm beginning to wonder.

Master Bates

Despite the fact that there are about 3 other threads about the street people/tour guides, I'll chime in:

Franco and Marquez are very different people.

Franco is helpful as far as the guides go, is friendly, and knows a lot of chicas very well. He does not pressure you for money like most of the guides. I have sat and chatted with him a few times, and he translated with a chica for me once.

Marquez seems friendly (at first), but he tried to pimp a 13 year old chick on me once ... she was standing with him on his corner, and I refused his offer of the obviously underage girl. When I saw him later that night, he told me in a very menacing tone that I should give him a tip so he does not have to tell the cops I like 13 year olds ... Normally I would have punched him in the throat, but his corner is very visible to the policia. I've seen him in the same spot on subsequent trips, and he always offers "whatever you want," and has offered drugs.

I agree with Ahora ... the cops may harass you just for being around these people ... I was stopped once because the urchin Mona was walking behind me going through her spiel about finding me nice girls ... they asked me if I was trying to buy drugs from her before letting me go.

-Superman-

The short lady who tells you about special girls in front of the bakery.

Don't listen to her, they're not special.

Fernando.

If there's one person who's become a right royal fucking pest over the last few months, it's that street urchin Fernando. He's not hard to miss. Always stands outside the AB. He's always got his eyes sweeping the area for possible "newbies" and regular tourists. He'll always approach you, no matter how many times in a week you go to the Zona Norte.

Fernando can't be more than 23. he's about 5'7, 5'8. 140 lbs. Skinny in appearance. Speaks good English. Short black hair, clean shaven. Sometimes you'll see him wearing the same dark green Salvation Army suit which I'm sure is donated out of charity! His clothes are always ill-fitting and rather long. And that icludes the oversize shirts he always wears. Sometimes he'll even branch out with his wardrobe and don the Goodwill Autumn collection!

He's another one who can (And I know you've heard this before) "get you ANYTHING you want." When you politely refuse, it's then when he moves in with the final sales pitch and claims to be unemployed and broke. He'll offer cocaine as a last desperate measure to get you to seperate yourself from your dinero. He has a very annoying habit of running up to all taxi's that pull up outside the AB and insists on opening the door for the customer.

When I tell him I'm not a tourist and remind him he should be familiar with me by now, he starts to walk alongside me, pestering me for a few bucks. I swear guys, the only reason these scroungers even exist is because all you generous mongers hand over your loose change to these parasites. Don't do it. It's like feeding a pack of stray dogs or a leopard in the jungle. Once you feed a wild animal long enough, the need to go out and hunt for food is no longer a necessity, it's no longer a case of survival. It becomes domesticated. Once you give free money to any homeless person, the want and desire to go out and work becomes non-desirable. Not that I believe for one minute all these street people are in any way homeless. If I did, I would personally feed them. They have beds to sleep in, they have a roof over their heads. Simply put, they've become lazy and spoiled, thanks to thousands of generous tourists like you who think giving away your spare change to the less fortunate will reserve you a place in heaven. Those little shoe shine children deserve spare change, not these fucking pestering street beggars. Mexico needs to adopt an age old medieval law from England, where panhandling in public is a crime. Hell, back then they used to go and round up all the street beggars, young or old, and throw them in jail. That law has been on the books for centuries over there, but is never properly enforced, just like it's never porperly enforced in California.

If you want to know about true poverty, try visiting Bogota, Colombia, where there is no government assistance and no tourist area's for local panhandlers to feed off of. When I visit the Zona, all I want to do is go from A to B in comfort without getting hit up by panhandlers and drug dealers all the Goddamn time. I work for my money, and when times are tough and I have to "cut corners" to help make ends meet, I won't go to anyone to ask for free money. Not even my government. Why should anyone else? Whatever happened to a mans sense of pride? There, now that I've got all that off my chest, it's time to get back to discussing chica's.

Remember, say "No" to panhandlers.

Respectfully,

Master Bates.

MasterBates:

Fernando used to be a shoeshine boy and at some point earned a "promotion" to supposed SG pimp and wannabe "tour operator"...

I remember the first time I saw him in that suit and I thought, "what in the fetch is this?!"...

As a tour operator he is no Texas Mike or Franco but we have been on speaking terms for long enough now that I am inclined to toss him $20 pesos from time to time...

He has never offered to procure drugs for me...

YoungBrig

Another problem I seem to have with street people is when I'm trying to get from the Adelita's to Las Chavelas or vice versa, I am constantly confronted by those street beggars who stand there outside that church in the darkness, asking for any spare change. They always seem to hang out around the street musicians. Sometimes they cluster in groups to where you literally have to walk right out into the street to avoid them, which is ok with me. I'd rather walk in the street just to get away from these annoying scroungers.

About six months ago I once made the mistake of giving a few quarters to a very dirty disabled guy. (Well, ok so what? I'll admit I gave to a pandhandler because I felt sorry for him) He looked at a bunch of loose change in the palm of his hand and said in broken English, "Hey man, what the fuck is this? There's a bunch of pennies here. These coins are no good. Give me a few dollars." I couldn't believe what I heard. A pandhandler complaining about the amount of spare change I gave him. I thought to myself, never again. They could be literally starving, but I won't allow myself to be insulted only because I was doing something which I thought was out of the kindness of my heart.

About three weeks ago, another pandhandler was standing at the same location. I was exiting the Las Chavelas, heading toward the Adelitas, when this guy asked me for some change. I was in a hurry and didn't acknowledge him. I didn't give him any money. As I walked passed him he yelled, "Well fuck you then. Get the fuck out of my country and get the fuck back to the U.S." Did that piss me off? Damn right it did. I was so close to making a U-turn, walking right back up to him and just giving him the hardest punch in the face with every bit of brute strength that my body would allow.

I will admit, I did have a few drinks that night, and for the locals to see a tourist from the U.S. engaged in a street brawl with some scavenging street beggar, well, you know the rest. You know who's side they 'd be on. I'd be spending a few days at the Tijuana jail, just out of a stupid act which wouldn't have been worth it to begin with.

Master Bates.

I will tell you something about fernando. He comes from a family in Mexico that is loaded. Every once in a while you will see him come back with new clothes and money.

I have seen that guy Texas Mike. I see him bug tourists all the time and I am fed up with his little sales pitch. Thank You, Master Bates... as I think that this is an important thread as this can be very useful to people deciding to head down south.

Rampart Dog

Texas Mike can be a nuisance, but he's a nice and gentle guy who tries to be useful. What, did I hear someone say that he's hiding in TJ from a U.S. warrant for drug possession? The horror!

For deep green newbies, he really can be worth hiring. You know, the scared shitless types who walk into Hong Kong ready to believe that the $80 short term offer being quoted by a waiter (or the lap dance wrangler waitress) on behalf of the chica is a bargain. Mike brings the tourist types in and sees them off to the hotel with their chica of choice for the veteran negotiator's price. He can be useful for vets too in certain limited circumstances...like letting you know which bar other riders in your posse have parked their horses. Mike does need to learn the art of accepting a reasonable offering graciously, and not asking for more money or giving you the hurt puppy treatment.

Franco's hustle is very low key and many find him genuinely useful. Don't get me wrong, he can hustle his ass off, but he's the guy most likely to leave you the fuck alone immediately upon sensing your vibe of disinterest. He'll rarely if ever hustle a veteran unless he's got some unusual angle to sell.

On the other hand, that Fernando is like a plague of freakin' gnats on a tropical summer night.

Franco has certainly improved his game over the years. I still remember about 1 1/2 years ago when I had him on a mission to find a chica who had "vanished" from Miami/HK and as I was getting into a taxi in front of AB with another chica for a trip to my hotel, he came running up and yelled into the cab, "Hey, I found that other chica for you!".

For those who don't know him, I encountered Texas Mike on my first (and only) visit to the ZN. I did not take him up on his "tour guide" services, but still found that he was genuinely concerned with the physical safety of the mongers.

We talked for a short time. Being a newbie, he pointed out the dangerous areas that I should avoid. Of course, this information would already be known by any "experienced" monger, but I have to imagine that his help has saved more that one inocent newbie from getting himself mugged. I gave him a few bucks for his info.

So, in an odd sort of way, he is providing a public service in the Zona.

Hey we on the boards have been giving out advice on how to stay safe in the Zona for years...you didn't buy us anything!

He's a scrounge who found a nest of eager prospects. Ordinarily I don't mind street hustlers (since I kinda used to be one myself) but when they feel they have the right to start issuing threats cuz somebody won't hand him money, even if he only does it in jest, he's outta here.

He's genuinely concerned the pigs he's fattening for the kill will quit coming around.

Angelo.

Angelo is a pimp. He's 5'7 150 lbs., about 25-28 years old. Has long black hair which he always wears in a pony tail. No facial hair, although he does appear to be somewhat "grungy." Always dressed in all black. He seems to speak with a slight lisp, either that or he has a scar on his upper lip which prevents him from speaking properly. He's light skinned. He used to work over on the corner of Articulo 123 and Ninos heroes. Now he works in the little back street, Coahuila 1er. cjon.

Can't miss him, he'll always approach you and ask if you're looking for some real nice young girls. He'll emphasize the words "real young." I wouldn't trust this guy if I were you. Seems like a real arrogant asshole. Also speaks fluent English. You don't need a "tour guide" pimp to show you where the best pussy in town is. Just stick to the continued advise from fellow mongers on the board here. Enough said.

Master Bates.

My favorite street people:

The guy with one foot. I call him stumpy. You always see him leaning up against a wall on coahuila, either in front of the taco stands, or between AB and LC. About a year ago I saw him beat the shit out of some other street guy in front of Molino Rojo, he moves pretty fast for a guy with one foot.

The guy who goes "bu bu bu bu bu bu" and always carries a sign that says "soy sordo y mudo". I always tell him I'll give him $20 if he can just complete a sentence, he still hasn't. This guy is very annoying, he'll follow you for blocks sometimes.

My favorite one is the crazy guy who freaks out and stomps the ground and foams at the whenever someone walks by him ... my next favorite is the guy who cruises around giggling out loud and staring off into space ...

-Superman-

I believe the girl called Christy is from Oceanside, I have seen her for about 5 yrs or so. I noticed that she has lost a lot of weight I though that she has herpes and aids. She was covered with sores last time I saw her. What about the Old White Fat guy who carries the bedroll? Eric from Central America, Short, wears a beard from time to time. Had a very bad sore on his leg, Dog Bite, Doper, went to the same High School in Santa Ana, Ca. that I did. Just missed me going into AB the other day, Boy was he pissed off, I usually give him $5, He waited over an hour then gave up. I usually give Texas Mike $2 for nothing, never knowing when you can use a favor.

I also ran into Texas Mike and Christy last week. I saw Christy in that little market right across from the Chicago Club. She looks a little better from last time I saw her, but she's still covered in sores and scabs which should be a very clear visible warning to any monger not to even touch her with a ten foot pole.

The one thing I really don't like doing is giving Texas Mike a tip. I know the money goes straight to his drug habit, but like most guys I do find him helpful on occasion and last week he went to seek out one of my friends who I was trying to find. I feel better when I actually buy him something to eat instead supporting the drug dealers around the Zona.

Master Bates.

Okay, now I know who Franco is. I've seen this guy hundreds of times but was never able to put the name to the face. He usually hangs out around the AB or LC. I was in the little back alley a couple of weeks ago and ran into Headin'South. We were both checking out the SG's together and Headin'South introduced Franco to me. Franco covers the whole block looking to make a quick buck.

For those of you who don't know what Franco looks like, he's a male Hispanic of light complexion, very "pasty" looking face, acne scars, about 40-ish, a little heavy set, often wears a cap. Speaks fluent English as well as Spanish. He's another street hustler, but not so much a con man. He just likes to play "tour guide" to the "newbies" in the Zona. He's not a bad guy, often friendly. The one thing I do like about Franco, is that at least he's not a constant pest like that other street hustler Fernando. Franco will at least leave you alone and won't bug bug you all the time.

Master Bates

MB,

Most of your description of Franco could apply except the part about "a little heavy set", he's pretty skinny actually.

Don't know about the acne scars either, sure you're not talking about Texas Mike?

Erip,

Texas Mike has been hiding out in Mexico because he already has two felony strikes against him in California and knows that he's bound to get a third if he goes back home to Sacramento (his ex-wife and kids live there). Neither of his two previous felonies have been drug related... (prog)

if I remember right this winner has a warrant for attempted murder right on his ex wifes husband ?

the street guides are all winners & that is why they are street guides

milkman

the street guides are all winners & that is why they are street guides

Same with the barkers in front of the Rev clubs. These guys are not model citizens by any means.

-Superman-

Some of these barkers see me every friday and still say
"fee pussy , we hab dah jungest girls ear por tu!

I went up to Peoples the other night and one of these winners followed me up when i repeatedly i told him i was looking for my amiga and when i left without ordering anything , he asked for a tip .

I gave him one !
" Do not follow anybody that doesn't want to be followed!"

I place the barkers a little higher on the scale than the street guides.

Milky

Milkman: Regarding Texas Mike's legal problems, that was how I heard it as well-- but who knows?...

For better or worse, the guy's on my payroll as he has actually helped me out on more than one occasion...

He also likes to mix a little religion with his Mongering-- he never shies away from a heavy Christian dialectic while walking Callejon Coahuila--that always scores points with me...

YoungBrig

Regarding Franco... here's a recent photo of him:

Next time when you see Franco, think to yourself... "iiiiit'ssss SHOWTIME!"

I don't know what her name is, but there is always this short little crazy toothless hag who screams obscenities at you if you don't give her money. All the locals seem to know her around there. She's about forty, short, has wild salt and pepper hair and is very dirty in appearance. She looks like she hasn't had a bath in years. Lately she's been known to even strike passers by for not giving her money. She always hangs out right outside the AB or LC.

Master Bates.

-The Bakery Girls-

I had a run in with a street person named Mona(I think it was Jenny in someone's prior post). She is short with shoulder length hair. A typical looking street person(dirty). One thing that really sticks out about this lady is that her English is better than mine.

This had happened on Sunday night between AB and CC. She approached me and gave me her normal routine of how she can get me two girls for a hour for $30 each. I refused. She then goes into her "I'm helping some street kids" routine, and she just wanted me to help get her some pinto beans to feed the kids. I told her I was well aware of the "bakery girls" scheme(thanks to this site) and went on my way.

Anyway this is just a heads-up. This woman is very smooth. Don't buy a single word that comes out of her mouth.


-snapper-

The Bakery Lady

True...she's a scammer and all that but not a bad person. It's not like she's the incarnation of evil.

I've helped her out with the "beans for kids" pitch, when I told her I thought she was gonna take the money and buy booze or dope she called my bluff and dared me to watch her go to the store and actually buy the beans....I followed and she did.

The only negative that comes to mind is someone said he got rousted by the cops after talking to her cuz they thought he was scoring drugs.

Like many of the street people she's interesting and has more to offer than meets the eye. Just use common sense. There's nothing wrong with getting to know the street folks, they can be useful for exchanging info with other people or helping you find someone. And there's nothing wrong with having them as friends when you might find yourself in a situation where having someone yell "look out" might be beneficial to you.

Saint Red,

you touched my heart.

Nero,

Anybody that would fiddle while Rome burned doesn't have a heart. :o)

Regards,
RickFeliz

I had a run in with Angelo in the SG alley this past Saturday night, he is excatly as Masterbates described him in a prior post. I gave him 2 bucks to help find a particular SG I was looking for. I had no singles so i gave him a 10. He said he would come back and give me my change. I found him a few minutes later, and he claimed that he already gave me a 5 and only owed me 3 bucks. I was really pissed at this point, and 2 of TJ's finest just happened to have just walked by. I called them over and explained my story (one of the cops happended to be a pretty hot chica) we went back and forth for a couple of minutes. The hot cop asked me to empty my pockets, which I did, I happened to have a 5 dollar bill then. My story seemed like bullshit to them at that point. Angelo screwed me for 5 bucks. DON'T TRUST THIS ASSHOLE !!! STAY CLEAR FROM ANGELO!

Yes, Angelo is definitely a con man, he's more like a wanna-be Mafia gangster. I don't really care for the guy. He's not as helpful as most other street people, like Texas Mike, Franco, etc. Not that I'd give much creedance to these guys either. Although I've heard from many mongers Franco does in fact have a good heart, he means well.

As for the hot female cop, know who you mean. I've seen her there in that alley on foot patrol on more than one occasion. She always has a partner. I would really like to get her number and find out what her story is. I just love women in uniform.

Master Bates.

Sorry, but giving 10 bucks to some dude on the street in the Zona and standing around waiting for him to give you change sounds PFS to me. Repeat after me: 'Caveat Emptor'.

Yeah, but mr. Porker: the handle "TJNitz" sounds like a "newbie" to this site and I'm assuming a "newbie" also to the Zona. (Would I be correct in saying so, TJNitz?) Anyway, how many times have we all done some dumb thing like give some street urchin a few bucks to go and find some good quality pussy, thinking he'll come back with something which is far better than we're looking at? I know I have on occasion, but that was a long time ago, and I've defintiely learned fom my mistakes. I'd never give money to a stranger especially in the Zona, unless he truly helped me out of course.

To quote an old veteran of whore mongering, I think it was Brockton O'Toole himself who once said, "If you can't find what you're looking for at the AB, CC or within the general vicinity of the Zona, you won't find it anywhere."

My advice is to stay away from Franco, he's a bit of a bullshit artist and isn't quite as sincere as the regular street people. And this incident with TJnitz just proves he's also a thief.

Master Bates.

Im not so much a newbie...I've been going down for about a year, it was like the 10th time I've been down there. In the past I would usually do the AB/CC thing, but recently started to explore the Alley. I was looking for a SG that Ive hit it off with a couple of times (Maribel in front of Cascadas). You are absolutely right Porker. I know it was stupid to give Angelo the 10 bucks. But I was like, what the hell...lets see what this guy can do for me. I learned my lesson. Will never do it again.

Master Bates,

Why are you advising people to stay away from Franco? I've never heard anything negative about him. My personal experience has always been positive.

Oh, So I did, sorry. Disregard that last piece of advice from the veteran Tijuana whore monger the Master Bater. What I MEANT to say was, stay away from Angelo. HE'S the shady character. Franco's cool. I hope he's recovered and out of the hospital real soon.

Thank you Redengdo for pointing that out, I was half asleep when I wrote that, so I probably wasn't paying attention to what I was writing.

Master Bates.

Not a prob, looking over your post again I figured that's what ya meant.

Franco's been out of the hospital for awhile, he's doing ok...it was actually a severe form of malnutrition.

Who's "Redengdo"? HAH!