SrPauncho@HotMail.com

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Sunday afternoon I stopped by Bar El Fracaso and:

Gave a promised CD to my Ex-Novia of January 1st (one dance)

Gave a gift CD to "O" (danced 6 times with her)

Danced one dance with the "granddaughter"

Noticed - for the first time (while drinking with "O") some drunk-looking indios giving me the "Kill Whitey" look. This is the first time I had gotten it at this bar.

(I will admit that once some Mexican [or more probably - Chicano] kept asking me one time why I was there. I continually answered "To screw beautiful Mexican women". Finally he just shut up.)

Finally there was an available table for me and mi amigo to sit. We had been making dry bombing runs in and out of Fracaso on several Sunday afternoons without finding even one table available.

This bar is not for everyone. It is what I call "hard core". But I love it. You have to love the $4 fichas and the quart size beers.

The selection was not great, but there were two hotties that could work anywhere. I chose the cutie who was giving us eye contact. Her name is Cara, age 23, one 7 year old boy. What a sweetheart! I danced a couple of dances. I especially enjoyed the slow dance.

We did not stay long. It was our maiden voyage at the club. I want to return. I can see potential. You can get drunk very cheaply, not spend much on fichas, and have a great time for half of other more popular bars.

Try Hotel Imperial for a base of operations - 180 pesos/night. It's just west of Hotel Colon across from El Fracaso.

You can rotate SGs in & out of there all night.

Just don't pay more than 20 bucks for 30 minutes - you'll spoil 'em.

Madelyn (Bar El Fracaso), a 19 year-old who has a 7 month old daughter. Shortish hair, sits near south end of east bench. Rather new here.

She wanted 25 bucks and I paid, thinking that she might be lactating. (Nope). She was rather giggly.

Nuce and snug, though.

Yet another Laura from Puebla;

Chaparita figure, but not so short.
Fantastic tits.

A friend yelled at me from the dance floor that he wanted to talk to me, so I grabbed the closest girl - Laura

We just stood there talking while the girls just stood there earning $1/song. But afterwards we danced a little.

Wonderful tits pressed softly against me. I asked her to the hotel (20 bucks, 30 minutes), and she declined.

I finally figured out she was OTR. So I told her that if I could suck her tits, and she would suck my cock, we didn't have to fuck.

It made economic sense to her, so we went to my room.

She claimed she had never sucked a cock before, but had learned from porno flicks. SHE LEARNED DAMN WELL, I'll tell you.

This girl likes sex !

Now wait a minute SP.

"She claimed she had never sucked a cock before"

I have read your posts for months with interest and amusement, but you have finally gone to far.

These girls learn about sucking cock from their brothers and uncles when they are thirteen.

The operative word was "CLAIMED".

By the way, you referred to me as "SP".
I'd like to go on the record that I am NOT "Sweetie Pie".

Gosh, Ben, you really are a dirty old man !

Ben is really old and really really dirty

I thought Senor P was Sweetie Pie ???

hey did you ever check out that place in Bonita ??

Just Curious

Nope, I fell in love in the Zona again.

"I dreamed about you last night" said Laura of May 10th above.

Man did she have me listening !

She continued "I dreamed you brought me another CD of children's stories."

Oh Well, what the hell........

Bar El Fracaso is getting better.

I think that the girls have come back from vacation, plus a few new ones.

The stuck up one that I'm so hot for has started to smile at me a time or two. I may try my suave speech on her soon ("30 minutes, 20 dollars, in the hotel.")

But damn it! Another fucking gringo showed up this weekend. The place is getting filthy with them.

Senor Pauncho,

You are too funny.

I hope you come to the Fiesta Friday night as Milkman wants to buy you a beer.

Not Likely, the Santee (Computer day) Swapmeet calls me with its siren song.

Message to ReyTJ;

Some time ago you said;
(refering to my $20 limit that I pay the girls at Bar El Fracaso)

'If you got Angelica de Puebla, la morenaza chaparrita to the room for 20 bucks, "mis respetos." '

Are you refering to a girl who calls herself "Laura" from Puebla but is really
Maria Angelica R. S. (initials for privacy) from a small pueblo in Tlaxcala that has a 2 year-old (just turned) son, big tits, and her left nipple is often inverted ?

If so, email me at SrPauncho@hotmail.com (Note the "U" in the spelling).

Pauncho

The girl I was referring to said her name was Angelica and she was from Puebla. She didn't cop to any 'bebes'. I didn't get around to asking her if that was just her working name or what part of Puebla she was from.

I haven't spent much time in El Fracaso lately but I have made at least one recent walk-through and she was still working there.

Saludos
Reytj

Some aging (about 40) surfer boy humped (the girl I call) my grandaughter last weekend.

I'm somewhere between jealous and happy for her (she needs the money).

I guess I really ruined this bar telling you guys about cheap Mexican pussy.

STAY AWAY !!!

The other day, one of my favorites here offered me ONE HOUR for $20
(I had always paid her $40 before)

I would have had it made but for my kind side - I paid her the whole $40

Admin: Photo moved to top El Fracaso thread...thanks Snapper!

Calmate (Chill), Ancient Cloth Thrown Over Left Shoulder! Alto Gringo and I posted about this $1/dance crowded sleaze hole, going back to the Redsnake days, and there were already a fair number of posts before us, going back about 6 years ago.

My kind side got the better of me, as well. After a shortie session with Esperanza de Tabasco she said she worked from 5pm to 6am - 13 hour shifts! I asked, how much for an all-nighter, and was quoted $70! After about 6-7 hours, she left (for, I found, her gringo novio).

Soon, we were able to take more interior measurements, for another 6 hours. I pointed out that I was still owed that much time, from the first all-nighter. She agreed. Mutely, sullenly, it seemed. I was just making a point, and coughed up what I described as a tip - of $60. She seemed pleased.

Her service? GFE, from a well-conditioned (!) Aztec model. I felt like I was taking advantage of her - almost.

Are you talking about Esmerelda ?
19
short
morenita
can't dance for crap ????

ReyTJ

I just sent in some photos to CH of some girls at El Fracaso.

When he posts them, you might want to check "Laura #2" who I think is your "Angelica de Puebla".

Yes, we did go for $ 20 for 30 minutes.

Also SG Elizabeht de Puebla was formerly an El Fracaso Girl. Soon a photo of her will be posted under SGs.

Pauncho

Pauncho, when does this bar get go'n? I stopped in there last week on Tuesday evening and there wasn't a single person in there. Are weekday evenings always dead, or is the scene better during the day or...

Esperanza worked there about 3 1/2 years ago.

Usually Friday, Saturday, & Sunday evenings.

The girls start to filter in from 4-6 pm.
At 8 pm it is looking good until about1 or 2 am.

The girls cycle in and out - they spend time in the hotel.

Support your local police !!!

Andrea (age 20) is new at Bar El Fracaso.
She was a cop in Ciudad Puebla.

If she gets a grip on you, you'll think it's handcuffs.
(Not really, just "no kids" snug throughout its length.)

Nice girl, medium + height, friendly - in a "lady cop" sort of way.

"I just sent in some photos to CH of some girls at El Fracaso."

Del dicho al hecho hay mucho trecho.

Reytj

Way to go Reytj

The place was real slow Friday night, but it picked up sat & Sun.

The girls are hungry, mine was trying to garner $300 for her two kids new bikes for Christmas.

I keep reading about bars where the ficheras will SOMETIMES go to the room IF YOU APPROACH THEM RIGHT.

At Bar El Fracaso I just say "200 pesos, 30 minutos, OK ?

Why do you think they are there ?

To dance.

Nah !

To make money.

And going to the hotel garners 2 or 3 times as much money per hour as dancing.

Gives you a feeling for the value of pussy, doesn't it.

I know 4 girls at Bar El Fracaso that do NOT go to the room.

I spent a couple of hours at Fracaso last night. Maybe it was because it was Sunday, or maybe it was because it was the last night of the month, but I wasn't ignored or otherwise dissed this time. The chicas were friendly, and I even got a quote for the hotel without asking ($40), from a chica who had just come over from Adelitas.

The 25 peso Clamatos weren't bad, but Fracaso needs to hire someone to clean up the place.

I broke off with my recent favorita (starting about Christmas, ending last Saturday).

She got her vengence - She kissed a customer during dancing for about ten minutes straight.

Several of the girls godd-naturedly teased me about it. I replied "No es mi asunto, no mas somos amigos".

But one of her two "best girlfriends" refered to me penis as "Property of (her name)".

Clearly these girls don't even talk to their friends about what goes on.

As she & I sometimes spent up to 8-10-12 hours together, I think that the girls are thinking "He could be my client".

The most affectionate girl is the (Don't panic Hombre, she just LOOKS young) 12 year-old appearing Vanessa. Comes up to my chin.

200 pesos, 30 minutes. Covered sex & BJ. Pale white, skinny like a child. Seems to be in the "they actually pay you for this ?" mode. Boy crazy like a 13 year-old. Claims to be 21 years old.

One child (C-section), A tiny girl built to scale. Breasts that have clearly suckled a child.

Has current Health Card.

There seems to be a bit of new blood in the bar recently - mostly in their late 20's.

Paid a little visit there last night. After what Explorer8939 recently posted on the main Mexico chat thread, thought I'd check it out.

It's been a while since I went in there, it all comes back to me now. I arrived there about 4:30pm, few chicas in the bar. Around 6-630pm, it suddenly got totally crowded.

Some very cute chicas there, most if not all, seem to be part-time hookers only.

.... and the problem with "part time" hookers is ........ ?

No, no. Nothing at all. I didn't mean that in a criticizing manner. What I mean is, if they're all part-timers, that's even better for us. I love part-timers, more GFE potential.

From what I've read I'm game to check this place out too.

Since these chicas are, respectfully, "part time" hookers do you vets go for free action first and if all else fails subtly ask for a quote or is it totally understood it is a pay for play environment.

also anyone know how to access ReyTJ's El Frasco Girl photos that he mentioned above easily? they aren't listed under his username.

thanks

It is strictly pay for play. That is why the chicas are there.

"also anyone know how to access ReyTJ's El Frasco Girl photos that he mentioned above easily? they aren't listed under his username."

Frontbc

I was commenting on Pauncho's pics. Also I wouldn't take the claim of part time hookers too seriously. The guy who really knows Fracaso is Seņor Pauncho and he's never made such an observation.



(Message edited by Reytj on September 12, 2004)

From reading all the posts, I'd say probably the best time to go in there is definitely on a weekend, although because of other commitments, that does make it harder for me.

I do plan on going back in there very soon, possibly sometime this week.

Friday through Sunday starting about 7PM- 8PM.
Occasionally Monday night also.

The girl I call my grandaughter works there part-time. Her other job is street girl in front of Hong Kong Bar. Several others likewise.

Do NOT pay maore than $20 for a half hour (+ pay the room).

There are several girls who work at other normal jobs during the wek and come to Bar El Fracaso to supplement. But they are still whores.

Do NOT ever forget this. I do often and it always costs me. (Often emotionally more than economically - I am still madly in love with my ex-favorrita).

The whole bar laughs at the shit that goes on between us. I've got no pride left.

The best GFE opportunities are the older (maybe 30) year-olds with average looks. they don't dance much and often don't get asked to the hotel.

I spent the night with one for 1,000 pesos ($90) on a Friday. I mentioned a repeat on Saturday and she said " but we have to start a little later because there's lots of work for me.

So I spent Saturday night with my ex-fav and ignored her. Sunday night (She usually doesn't work Sundays) she said she only danced 7 tunes ($7) and didn't go to the room.

Probably a big lie, but she was quite anxious. I was nearly broke and told her I had ignored her because she said she wanted to work.

I think I got her back in line for next Friday night.

Little by little or in big chunks, they will manipulate you. A big woose like myself they eat alive.

But I'm learning. I kicked two girls in the butt in two weeks for pulling shit. It's sad, because I liked both of them a LOT.

Is Senor Pauncho and Pauncho one and the same person?

Claro que si (yes)

Spent some time in there Friday night. (Was that you I saw dancing with those pretty young things Pauncho?) Crowded with some very nice looking chicas. Not quite up to the Chicago Club level, but we're always all looking for type of woman, right?

Doorman seems real friendly, welcomed me in and told me to go have a look around inside as there were many new girls to choose from.

Approached a rather heavy-set chica seated by the entrance. I was attracted to her because of her "curvy" size. Struck up a conversation and she told me her name was Anjelica (or Angie) Asked her to go to the hotel room with me, she quoted $50. Yes, that's right, Fifty fucking dollars.

I thought, wait a minute, either she thinks this is !st Street's equivalet to the Chicago Club, or she's charging by the poundage! I think the latter is more correct.

I quickly let her know I wasn't stupid/a tourist. Walked away.

Master B.

Forgot to add this heavy-set honey "Angie" said she was from Obregon, Sonora. I don't know if she's new there or a regular.

But when I pointed out the going rate for this sleazy shit hole is $20 and I'm spending anymore than that for a fuck, she told me it's $20 for all the other chicas in here, but for her, it's $50. I told her no. It's $20 or nothing.

She wouldn't budge from $50, so I decided to leave. Went back down to the Las Chavelas where I eventually scored.

So, that's where you disapeared to. I went there earlier and it was dead. Then i went later on sat, and it was too packed. Talent was average at best.

The fichera I am in love with went south to visit her sick mother. I know because we went to the airport to buy her ticket. (and of course I gave her a fistful of money).

I went back to the club and danced with a girl who talked to me about her. Seems a few girls think I am her padrote. LOL

But I discovered another TLN for 1,000 pesos girl.

Life goes on....

If you are getting a real TLN for 1,000 pesos, you are my hero. 'Real' means she stays until the sun comes up, not 3 am.