Dianeta 23, 1 kid, de Mazatlan, 5'4, dyed blonde, very pretty, best back maybe body in ZN.
Looks: 9, gorgeous except for fake B/C Cup.
Attitude: 4.0, not very good although am sure a nice chica at heart.
Technique: 4.0, 1/2 and 1/2, was finally able to lick her nipples, she even had an orgasm, not sure who the sex provider is these days.
English: A-
Hygiene: 10
Overall: 6.0, extra point for look, otherwise boring trophy fuck.

Dianeta was one of the girls that always made my jaw drop. Alas, she seems to have retired.

indeed she is retired but surely will return when she gets bored or runs out of cash

My CC fav was a friend of Dianeta's, when she was still working. I must have read here that Dianeta was from Mazatlan, and started talking about this fact with my fav who is from Mazatlan. She stopped me and said, "no, she is not from Mazatlan". "I don't know exactly where she is from, but she speaks like she is from Mexico City". Another fake identity, probably.

By the way, this fav is listed at this site as being from GDL, even though she is from Mazatlan. My AB fav is listed as being from Mazatlan, even though she is from Mexico City. Needless to say, these infos are "accoring to what they told me".

I think this story came back to my mind, because I just went through a similar situation with Ana AB, who I don't know is from Sinaola or GDL.

As I was sitting in Jgsx' booth last night with Jarocho and two other (usual) losers, Dianeta was in a booth next to us. As she sat directly in front of me, I ended up looking at her for nearly an hour. Three years ago, her face was beautiful. Now, it looks perfect.

People have commented on her "sad" demeanor in the club, but I have seen a very canty side of her. The last night was such an occasion. She must have been with a good company. She was smiling all the time, bursting into laughters here and there, and then talking into guys' ears. These guys were lucky bastards. In fact, at one point, two guys from another booth came up and talked to her (from my distance, it looked like they were tyring to steal her), but she would not move. During the wet t-shirt contest, she stood up, and cheered loudly for her friends. I was asking to myself, "is she the most beautiful prostitute ever?". And then I modified my question, "is she the most beautiful girl ever?".

Unfortunately, the memory of my sessions with her does not match with the high marks on her looks. I went upstairs with Dianeta three times, and met with mechanical responses three times. These sessions happened more than two years ago. Since then, I met my girl, and all CC girls became off limits. Going with Dianeta would have been a big no no, as my girl and Dianeta are friends. I couldn't help thinking, though, how she was doing at upstairs these days. Did anybody do her lately?

I have always considered Dianeta to be the most attractive girl to ever grace the TJ zona. It blows my mind that she never got discussed more.

Jessie and Ice Queen Lilia are close behind. I heard from someone that Jessie and Dianeta are related.

On their best days, retired blond Jennifer CC and druggie Elizabeth AB were the only two I would consider in the same league with these three. (in looks alone that is)

She's done something about her complexion problem then? Always wore a ton of makeup to cover it up. Then probably never washed it off properly to lead to a vicious cycle.

I never stayed too close to her for very long so she may still have the complexion problem, I don't know. Last I saw her, she was still wearing a lot of makeup though. Everytime I've seen her she has worn a lot of makeup.

Which reminds me for some reason, Yadira CC (the one that looks slightly middle eastern, not the spinner with bad teeth) would have been in this top bracket if she had a better nose.

Dianeta is a 7.0- in my look ranking plus she has a soft butt and not the whitest teeth plus she has gained weight in her legs so hourglass is shot. Still a beautiful girl with princess attitute while in ZN. For TJ she looks very attractive, for world destination middle of the road at best.

Wow, only a 7? I still dig her face a lot, but haven't looked really closely at her teeth and don't remember her but.

Saw Marbel recently, she has a midsection now. Many of the prettier girls are gaining. We really need to find a way to get these girls to the gym or maybe open an inexpensive health food store nearby.

D'art
remember Athos's ratings of TJ are now tainted that he has seen Brazil.
Add a point or two to his new ratings for a more accurate reading

Milky

Athos is pissed because I wrote he could not get BBBJ in TJ. So he subtrated points from Dianeta whose face I adore.

heh

Athos was a severe judge in his "looks" ratings long before he knew a word of Portuguese. This is NOT to say that he's unfair...he stays sober, his eyes are microscopes...he sees stuff most of the rest of us don't. It is not possible for a chica to sneak an ounce or two of new meat into her tush outside of the range of Athos's detection systems. So in the end, he's probably always the best objective judge, but for my more easily gratified visual equipment, I automatically add 2 or more points to his number...Dianeta included.

Everyone's "scale" is different and though I agree with Athos' about 82% of the time, there are exceptions to HIS grading system...Dianeta is definitely one.

Erip, look up. Athos' pre-Brazil score on Dianeta is somewhere on this thread. He definitely changed her "looks" points.

I am not arguing much about her body, which is synthetic here and there. And, I am not a body person, anyway. I just adore her face.

Athos, calibrate your own scale por favor. How does it go from "..very pretty" and "9, gorgeous.." to "a 7.0- in my look"? I thought she looks better now than 2 years ago.

You are garotas brainwash dude.

All right I had a typo Dianeta ranks a 7.5 in my looks department. Who gives a fuck what I think anyway? Everyone has their own scale.
I totally disagree she has aged and her hourglass is out of proportion, but at 24 (?) she still looks very attractive.
She is no more than a one timer and is not worth a shot imho.

what days does Dianeta usually work. Days... Nights... Weekdays...Weekends...?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Volcom
Dianeta works more like part time when she needs dinero. She just arrived in town last week. Best bet wed thru sat after 10:00 pm.

If she is not in a booth with customers, then look for her in the cove. She could be sitting on a stool facing the mirror. Sometimes, it looks as if she was hiding herself from the crowd. She used to turn down guys she didn't like ("princess" attitude, as Athos put it), but I don't know if she still does it.

So, what about the question I posed earlier? Did anybody do her lately, say, during the last one year? How was she?

I know she was working last Sunday, didn't show up until really late though and then just seemed to be hanging out with guys she already knew.

Talent bar at CC was raised tonight with the return of Dianeta and Jessie.

Photo link added to top

It's not Dianeta, it's Deyanira and Jessica. Here's the scoop on them.

I'm the asian guy that's been hanging with Deyanira since May. I hit her up back in Jan and then came back in May (got over my ex). We hit it off immediately and she gave me lots of hints that she liked me.

She didn't work for a year because of her ex-bfriend and now she's working to save money to open a Day Spa in TJ I think if not Sonora. She has family in Sonora with lots of bros and sis. Her family doesn't know that she does this and I've called several times when she was back home with family. Jessica is her cousin by the way.

Her bday is in March 7 and she plans on quitting in April next year. She lives in Las Playas, was invited but mom came over to visit. We also went out after work hours without her charging me. I fell in love with her immediately but stupid me, when I was waiting for her, I kept buying other girls drinks just to kill time. That pissed her off and that was it.

There's an unwritten rule in the club that if a girl likes you, you cannot talk or drink with another girl in the club. I had a good chance but now have lost her. It sucks cause she raised my standards and finding a replacement is not easy.

Enjoy it while you still can, she'll be gone forever in April.

She also asks a favor that we no longer post her picx in this website, if her family finds out, she's disowned.

Interesting post, Tung, sorry to hear things didn't work out the way you wanted with her. You mention that you think it was because you bought other girls drinks, and that surely didn't help your cause, but with long time pros at CC it may have been also that you didn't pony up the expensive gifts fast enough.

You may want to try your luck with other CC girls, though. For many of them having an Asian boyfriend is a status symbol and if they think they can steal one away from another popular girl... GO FOR IT!

Thanks again for the post. BTW, though, re: pics here... How'd she know about that?

Thanks Porker, one thing for sure she's no golddigger as many thinks. It's just that many customers think they can buy her heart just by showering her with gifts, beautiful girl mentality. There's one way to her heart and I'm gonna try it before she quits after I do a major makeover.

How do I know? She's taken me out on several occasions and paid for it. No golddigger would do that plus I had my share of experiences with takers and golddiggers. Plus, she's very careful with money. I never seen a girl so happy to have found a hair clip in the hotel room and so happy to have bought a nice shirt at a cheap price.

It's her insecurity that made her leave me. Yeah I chatted with a few girls and bought them drinks but I'm very social and never once did I take them upstairs. It all went downhill when she saw me with Ice Queen Lily. She mentioned the fight but never about the cause of it. Also, after reading all the descriptions about her here, she's very honest, I didn't found a lie with what she has told me. Well, she did her job and got my mind off my ex, that's I should be grateful for.

Great girl with great personality, I don't think there's one worker in TJ with that.

She is a great person. I had an chance to spend a couple of hours alone with her last year thanks to another chica friend and she was one of the nicest chicas I have ever met in TJ. Not only was she very accomodating but also a great conversationalist. She spoke about her family and her plans for the future.

BTW, that unwritten rule you spoke of, is that, a RULE. I think it is more respect then insecurity. Remember, you are only there a fraction of the total time she is. If she is unable to keep her man under control at the club, you bet the other girls will let her know.

Good luck to you Tung, she is a great girl.

Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I saw Jessica and Deyanira tonight. I could not tell them apart, really. I had my eyes them off and on for a long time, but neither one of them is really that approachable since they sit in the alcove and seem content to just shoot the shit with each other.

When Jessica went over to a booth, I went over and grabbed Deyanira. I didn't know which was which until later. At first, I thought she said her name was Yadira. She eventually pronounced it more slowly for me.

We chatted about bullshit stuff from a while. She told me she was from Hermosillo, not Mazatlan, so we bullshitted for a while about that and I tried to impress her with my knowledge about Mexican geography, specifically Sonoran geography since that is the Mexican state that borders Arizona.

She wasn't overly friendly in the booth, but she was so damned hot I just had to do her. I remember Dart saying he thought she was one of the hottest girls he had ever done, but that he had a better time with Jessi.

So I took her up. Her body was fantastic. She is muy flaca and I love that shit. I started off sucking and licking her fake tits and then she returned the favor to me. (Ok, my tits aren't fake, but she still licked and sucked on them for me! )

I almost asked her about the Vigel, but decided against it. That was a crucial mistake, because I had already brought out the bottle and at the end of the session she asked what it was. When I explained it to her she seemed open to using it! DAMN!

Anyway, back to the session. For a covered BJ, her performance was nothing short of stellar. (In fact, she and Jessi both gave great CBJ's.) It was great. When I finally entered her in missionary, I was in heaven. My first reaction was that I could not believe how incredibly tight this woman's pussy was. I nominate it for the one of the tightest pussies in TJ and one of the tightest pussies I have ever fucked, period!

It was great! Good missionary action with her as well. She was not aloof during the session and provided a decent amount of feedback.

I tried to get her into arriba, but she opted for doggie instead. Oh my God, I love that tiny waist on her. I grabbed it with both hands and started pounding away. Then I reached around and started grabbing those titties of hers as well.

It was not a stellar time, but I had a "better than expected" time with her. She was accommodating and the best part was her tightness! Even compared to Thai girls this girl was fucking tight. Her pussy just gripped my cock and she also had great control over her vaginal muscles that gripped my dick even tighter.

I finally blew in doggie and she commented on how I lasted longer than most guys she was with. Her cleanliness was fantastic and she had a long shower cleanup afterward.

I was almost tempted to repeat with her later in the evening, that was how much I enjoyed her pussy. I didn't, but I almost did.

Overall I would rate the session as decent good. I had a good time with her. In fact, I will even give her the patented Xenono recommendation.

I looked for her both of my last trips 12/6 and 11/22.

She has been on the top of my to do list ever since I fucked up and did not take her up when I first set eyes on her a few trips ago.

CC as usual had ABSOLUTELY ZERO talent on a busy Saturday night this past 12/6/03
Man CC just has sucked for many months now.

Oops Xen did it again, he fucked Deyanira, he used the Vigel this time, oh baby baby.

Well I think I have Deyanira out of my system now. No more repeats for me. She remembered me from the previous night and was excited when I pulled out the Vigel. Another solid CBJ and some good warm-up action, pretty much the same as the previous night. Started off in missionary and it was a good as before.

I actually got her into arriba tonight and she rode me quite vigorously back and forth. I love grabbing that waist and then watching those titties bounce up and down. I just had to squeeze them more and more.

After arriba I finished up in doggie. The one MAJOR bad thing I have to say about Deyanira is that she tries to rush in the last position. I usually just ignore it though and continue on about my business. If she didn't do that, she would be an above average session in my books.

But the Vigel worked very nicely with her tonight and it is always fun to watch the girls' reaction to it. I still think it can sometimes be a great session enhancer.

I am still amazed at how many girls I can get to use it in TJ, especially since I can barely explain exactly what it is. I thought I would of had a lot more difficulty, but I estimate usage at 80%-90%.

Xen, did you win the loteria? Fucking 5 trophies in TJ in 2 days is well on your way to airfare to a pretty cool location where you can get a lot more bang for your buck.

No, no lottery. However, I did find humor in your admonishment (especially coming from YOU Porker) about using that money to travel internationally.

This is coming from someone who for YEARS said he could not break away from Mexico long enough to save for an international trip and now he is admonishing ME, a two time Thailand traveler, one time Brazil traveler, and one time Argentina traveler on saving for an international trip as well as posting about going stir crazy waiting for his second PI trip.

If you don't find that ironic, well....

Yes, Xen, very ironic, but I followed your preaching and have seen the light. In my slight defense, I stopped doing AB and CC trophies a loooong time ago, though. Doing five in three MONTHS for me would qualify as going NUTS!

I had posted that Jessie was back but I didn't see Deyanira. Well, I can confirm now that she's definitely working and looking as hot as ever.

When I saw her with Jessie, they were with the same two guys the rest of the night.

Anyone know what she's charging nowadays? She used to quote high.

d'art,

I saw her the week before she went on vacation in December 2003. I asked how much and she quoted me $60. I said lets go for an hour. $120. Who knows maybe I could have gotten it for less, but I remember when she used to quote $70-$80 and if she quoted that I would have bargained to $60 anyway. So the way I saw it, I got what I wanted right of the bat. I hate to say it but she should be charging more. Don't get me wrong, I just hate seeing girls at AB and CC quoting and getting paid more that don't even come close to the service she provides.

I was surprised she said $60. The HC girls at AB start way higher and don't even come close to her beauty and class. She is a must do for anyone that has anytype of vibe for her.

She likes to talk in the bar too. Not "let's go uptairs" right away.

When I was with her she showered after the first pop and ofcourse the second pop too. Of all the 1 hour sessions I've done she is the first to do that. Even thought she's in high demand, she at least takes the time to wash herself and for me that is a turn on. Sure it takes away 2 minutes of talk time inbetween sessions but I've got peace of mind this girl has hygeine concerns.

I remember when I was Paola/Michelle of GDL(now at AB)she wouldn't even sink wash after a session she was in such a hurry to get back down to the bar.(and of all my experiences in TJ she is the only one never to clean up. 100% opposite of Deyanira) Paola does wipe her pussy with toilet paper after though. But one time I was with her I noticed small kernals of dried toilet paper in her bush. It was nasty. Damn woman, clean up down there.

hasta.


(Message edited by frontbc on February 18, 2004)

I should also note the $60 quote from Deyaniara was on a Thursday(or Sunday, I can't remember) But it definatley wasn't a Friday or Saturday nite because I pretty much avoid TJ those nites. The quotes usually go up and so does the monger head count.

hasta

FrontBC

I have never seen or heard of a AB hottie charging more than the standard $60
Who are you referring to at AB?

Also no chica should charge more than the standard so please don't plant that seed in her head and fuck over the rest of us.

I also disagree about her liking to talk downstairs. Her beauty is tainted as well as she always seems to have a scowl on her face and gives off an unapproachable vibe.

I did hear that she turned down an in shape white guy for a drink recently and she had no business at that time or any time soon after that.

So there is a chance she only likes Asians to drink with.

Yes D'Artaqnan Deyanira was looking hot on my last trip as I posted under the Jessie thread and Deyanira remains my number #1 to do.
Were the guys you saw her with Asian?

Maximus,

First let me say I have read alot of your posts and I have respect for you so please don't take my post below as hostile. I know I'm new to CH(december 2003), so I'm sure I have to gain some respect from you veterans as a new poster.

I've gotten higher than $60 quotes from various girls like Paola/Michelle, Eileen, Malena(Magadela), Jenny etc. When I first started going to TJ I wasn't skilled as I am now so I overpaid.(if you can get 40 or 50 when a girl first quotes 60 and turn around and pay 60 to another girl then that is technically over paying).

But, when I say "they are quoting and getting paid more" that is assuming that someone doesn't aggressively negotiate for a lower price(let's set 60 as the highest acceptable payment). Sorry, I should have put a disclaimer on my "assumption" that they are getting more than $60.

One girl told me what one guy gives her for an hour and you would flip your lid if I told you.

As for me suggesting to Deyanira that she should charge more, where did I say that in my above post. Why would I do that? I'm not that stoopid.

My statement regarding she should charge higher stems from a compare and contrast example. I, personally, see her as a Ferrari and she charged me a Lexus price, as opposed to what I feel, some Lexus's are out there are quoting and "let me make an asumption" getting Ferrari mark up prices. Or another example would be if you could get a Lexus and a Ferrari for the same price, you would at least question why and say to yourself why doesn't the Ferrari cost more? I hope this analogy clears up my "she should be charging more" compliment. Yes, I meant it as a compliment not as a argument for inflating prices in TJ.

Its been said many a many a times that YMMV. One guy's great experience is another guy's shitty one. You said she turned down a white guy for a drink. There could be numerous reasons why she didn't want to deal with him. Something with her personally and maybe something with him(just the way he approaced her). When you witness this you should ask the guy what happend, so it can be factually stated here. And if you do see a scoul on her face. Give nothing but charm back and make her feel guilty for making assumptions about you and putting up her defense mechanism. That's what it is. A defense mechanism. If you can get past it you're in. If you can't you just saved yourself $60 or even less per your highest acceptable quote and move on. She ain't the only girl in TJ.

BTW, I'm as caucasian as they come. Not all white guys look alike so maybe she just vibed with me. Trust me I'm no looker either(I personally attribute my looks as to why I go to TJ. If I could get what I get in TJ for free in the US, I most likely wouldn't frequent TJ.)

But, you mentioned you have asian friends so I'm sure you recognize that not all asians look alike too. Sorry, you seem to have a hang up that Deyanira and Jessie prefer asians, but I haven't seen Jessie act like you said with every asian guy that goes to TJ. So she must of clicked with him only to reinforce the YMMV concept.

Let's "assume" for a moment that they do ONLY like asians. What can you really do about it. Everyone has a type they are attracted to. Its not racism its just preferences. I don't have chica's that weigh over 150lbs on my to do list and I'm sure every girl that works in TJ doesn't fit all of your preferences. It works both ways regardless of the fact that one is paying the other.

People really have to get over the fact that just because you pay these girls for companionship that they have to become what ever you want them to be. Sorry I shouldn't have generalized and used the word "people" in the previous statement. What I should have said, was at one point during my TJ experience I realized that these girls aren't just a commodity. They don't owe me anything just because I pay them. And you know what, when I came to that conclusion my approach to them changed I felt more comfortable talking to them at the bar instead of saying to myself "OK how low can I go in price and get GFE."

These girls are people too. They have feelings, a type of guy that turns them on, good days and bad days. I know, I know, if they don't like their job then quit. The thing is they might not like their job all the time, but once in awhile they find a monger that makes doing it worth while. i.e. what you've been witnessing with these two girls. They deserve to make a living anyway they can and on their terms.

BTW, Deyanira told me which ethinic background of men she dislikes the most and its not us gringos. Ask her if you really want to know, you probably be as surprised as I was. I didn't ask her straight up though, it came out during conversation in the bar.

My only advice, which I'm sure you really don't care for at all, is just step to them. There is no right or wrong just timing.

One more thing. I'm not getting any type of GFE with Deyanira. I would guess you could get it but be prepared to invest time and effort(money too). But,I have zero complaints with the service so far but it definately isn't the end all, be all.

FrontBC,

No hostility taken. I am an easy going monger who never blows smoke. I tell it as it happens even if it makes me look bad. I just like to know the facts.

All your opinions are welcomed here.

I was merely asking who qouted you so high in AB as I would love to put an end to that ASAP. I rarely negoiate with a hottie and just pay the $60. I will not pay more and yes it is sad to hear there are some guys and some that are idiots who pay excessive amounts of money to these girls.

I do my part to maintain the $60 cap.

As far as my comment about suggesting to her to charge more, you may not be stupid but some guys say things like "you are the most beautiful girl in Tj and you should charge much more or you are worth much more than $60."

or to a reasonably priced SG hottie "you are much prettier than any bar girl why don't you work in a bar so you can do less guys and make more money per session?"

It is sad that there are some idiots like this but it does happen.

As far as Asians go, my one Asian friend gives me a hard time all the time that the CC girls will only drink with Asians and prefer only Asian so I have those comments and my experiences of what I see to draw from.

It won't stop me though as I really like Deyanira and will take her up soon.

BTW I am very charming, always chat to chicas as they are real people and have been able to get smiles from girls known for their unhappy looks or scowls.

As far as what they owe us, I say if you pay for a service and have a specific agreement to such then that is what you should receive. This is proper business. I always treat my clients fairly and I expect the same from whatever person I am buying goods and services from. If a girl is only going to spend ten minutes with me when I am paying for thirty then let me know up front and I will pass.

So on the point that the girls deserve to make a living on their terms I disagree. Business is a two way street.

Lastly GFE is not my main priority as why do I want to kiss a girl that just sucked some other guy's cock bareback? I am not saying Deyanira does this but many guys are doing just this when they get GFE from many of the chicas.

If I click with a chica then I re-evaluate things. I come from the school of thought that if she does something with me than she is most likely doing or has done the same thing with some other monger.

Some mongers argue until they are blue in the face that they are the only monger receiving DFk, bbj or sin condom from certain chicas and I just don't understand how they can be so delusional in thinking that they are the only monger who gets this.

Keep sharing your reviews and you will become well respected as there are so many selfish guys who go to the zona regularly and take from here and from the friends they meet there but never give back.

So sad and so pathetic.

Maximus,

Great to hear no offense was taken by you from my post.

I've read your above post many times and agree with all of your points.

A monger is shooting himself and others in the foot by overpaying or suggesting a girl should charge more.

I know guys give girls alot of gifts and to me this can be perceived as a form of overpaying or jading the girl in the long run. I was talking to a high mileage chica(I shall call her DOWN LOW INFO CHICA because she tells me like it is) last nite and she went on and on about the gifts she's gotten from mongers.(it's because I asked her how her Valentines's Day was) These aren't your small gifts either. We're talking electronics, jewelry etc. The sad part is she has absolutely zero feelings for these mongers and gives the gifts away if she doesn't need them. She says she is "here to work" and "business is business" and if they want to give her gifts that's on them. I'm sure she plays them for more gifts and the next time they try to out do the previous gift.

You can't stop these guys. Their intentions are genuine and in the right place but some of these girls have a heart of steel. They may act like it's gold when they are with the gift giving monger but it changes once they leave the room. But the things she told me would break these guys hearts. So whoever gives gifts consistently to the girls, see what happens when you stop. If the quality of service lowers and get bitchy when they don't get anything then its a sign you are overpaying or the feelings she displayed in the past aren't genuine. And now you're stuck in a difficult predicament that you put yourself in. No more gifts no more GFE(maybe).

I was in CC last nite and had your post on my mind and just wanted to observe the asian culture. I have no experience with Asian hostess bars. As I understand these bars, they don't work like TJ bars but you pay these girls to hang out with you for quite some in the bar with the intention of some after hours activities. Maybe this mindset carries over to CC with asians. Because they definately always establish themselves in a booth with their crew. Invite girls over and hang for quite sometime. They must know spanish to have conversations this long. If you really watch them, their approach is so laid back. The guys I was observing had these girls laughing the whole time.

Asians also don't seem to bar hop. I know I jump all over the place. When girls see you leave and come back through the curtains numerous times they know you are hunting and have only one thing on your mind. They watch us do loop after loop and leave only to come back soon. I'll be the first to admit I'm guilty of this.

I know what you mean about the sharing info part. Some don't share becasue they feel they are the only ones getting the special GFE service and don't want others raining on their parade. As you pointed out, they being the "only one" is a crock of shit. That is the wrong reason not to share.

I've never ask for DFK or BBBJ or BBBLTC, but DOWN LOW INFO girl "offered" all of these to me last nite for the first time. And I never asked for them is the past. That tells me she has done it before with others even though she tried to tell me I would be the only one. Yeah right. I would only believe this if I begged and begged for it and she eventually conceded. But if they offer out of the blue its becasuse they've done it many a times.

But there is another reason why guys don't share specific info and that is because other guys may share info they read here with the girls to gain something out of it.

I feel bad I am not naming DOWN LOW INFO's name because it could really help but it could turn into a mess. I decided that when I retire from the TJ scene I will reveal all the specific info DOWN LOW INFO has confided with me.(Hopefully she wasn't talking about anyone specific that is on Clubhombre.) This info helps protect me from the pitfalls of TJ. But at the moment I can't risk someone outing me to her. BTW, the sex isn't GFE(I guess if could be if I accepted the DFK and BBBJTC), but the bonus is that she actually talks honestly about how TJ works with me. Maybe she laughs at me behind my back too!

The biggest thing I've learned from her is that the gift giving thing really does more damage than overpaying for a session. She sees how the guys are falling for her but she can't bite the hand that feeds her. But it's jaded her. She sometimes asks why I don't give her anything. I say "No estoy eSTOOPIDo". She just laughs.

So I try not to be too specific on what I post but if you read between the lines I'm SHARING to the best of my ability.

Good luck with Deyanira!

Yes, Max, the guys with Deyanira and Jessie were both Asian.

I only know of two girls quoting above $60 now that I've personally heard about. Evelyn - Veracruz with glasses in AB and Sonia - Culiacan in CC. Evelyn was a surprise to hear about because she's not that attractive. I don't go weekends and don't get quotes from girls I've already done, so maybe more are...I don't know.

I agree with Frontbc's point, though, which more simply put is just supply and demand. The best lookers will charge what they can get away with, and even if all TJ internet guys banded together, I doubt it would impact their business. For every 1 guy that keeps up with the message boards, I'm sure there are at least 5 or more that don't, any even if they do, getting some kind of coordinated effort going when the majority are lurkers anyways is very wishful thinking at best.

I think it's best to just realize that those of us that follow the sites have a distinct advantage, even more so for those that post because it's interactive and you remember more. I've found my retention of the girls I see has increased exponentially since I started doing the roll calls. When you're posting you're more likely to remember the discussions and it makes the information here more useful.

As for Deyanira, $60 is definitely a good price. She could easily charge and make a lot more if she put forth more effort. Fortunately for her (unfortunate for us) she is attractive enough to not try hard at all and still make enough money.

d'art,

Really good point about Posting having a direct link to info retention. Those who give, get more in return.

And I greatly appreciate your roll calls. I like that you include links and notes to make my homework easier for my next TJ run.

If Lily/Lilia of CC(or last seen at AB) could just be on it next week that would be great. I'm still trying to figure out her deal right now. My guess is she has a boyfriend and when they get into a fight she says adios and hits the bars for income. He then realizes he has a kicking piece of ass and they make up and she goes back home. All speculation on my part. I've got other stoopid senarios in my head but I have a feeling she'll be back.

TJMAC

Deyanira looks very similar to the hot blonde in the Sam ADAms beer commercial where four guys walk into a bar called the house of beers.

It runs often and every time I see it I think of Deyanira.

Maximus,

Thank you very much. I will look for that Sam Adams beer commercial. And as far as Sonia of CC, do you know what she looks like, Maximus? All the guys on this board rave about her, especially D'art. And both you and I agree, D'art rating scale is pretty reliable. Let me know buddy, any celebrity or famous people look like her?? thanks again, Max!!

Deyanira and Jessie - Culiacan - Chicago Club have returned.

The question is often posed about who is more attractive...Sylvia (D) - Mazatlan - Adelita Bar or Deyanira.

Although comments would likely put them about even, I would speculate that Sylvia would win hands down for most because of her more natural Rosalyn Sanchez look and beauty.

Deyanira has a more exotic look with eyes that could suggest she had a little asian blood in her. She wears a lot of makeup and looks like she probably spends hours getting ready.

I'd have to give Deyanira an edge with her body. She has a tiny waist that really accentuates her hourglass figure. It really surprises me that she doesn't get approached more, but I believe she intentionally acts a little distant because she doesn't want to work too much and some guys are willing to throw money at her.

where they gone a long time?

because i saw them maybe 3 weekes ago in AB drinking with some hombres in the booth tucked in the corner under the fan. I made eye contact with Deyanira and Jessie but that was it. They soon left with the hombres. Not sure if they were headed to CC. I never followed them. I think it was around the time when they show up for work at CC. 11:30ish. it was few weeks ago so my memory isn't as accurate.

It's possible they weren't gone at all, but I hadn't seen them for a couple weeks or so, I think. Could have just been timing.

Confirmed - Deyanira and Jessie working at CC on Fri nite 11/5. They both came into the bar at about 10:30 pm. Deyanira left the bar with her first customer (me!) at 10:31.

I had actually went to TJ with the intention of meeting her. Unfortunately there is no pic of her, so I had to rely on the clues to find her:
- sits in the alcove (sat in first seat closest to door)
- parts her hair in the middle, shoulder length blonde hair
- mostly white looking/European
- Hangs with Jessie, who has a pic here, but it is somewhat dated (pre-boob job)
- Doesn't go out of her way to drum up business, i.e. is perfectly content to hang out in alcove (practically hiding) and have guys run up to her (like me

- From what I read, I heard these two could care less about drinks. Seems true, saw Asians sitting in the alcove with Jessie for almost an hour, and she never went back to their table.

Deyanira is really gorgeous in person. She is also in great shape, with fake boobs that arent too big, but not too small either. Upstairs, she was a bit mechanical, but quite accomodating. Likes the lights out, but if you put up enough of a fuss, you can get near-lit room (bathroom with lights on). I think she's one of the hottest girls in TJ. If your looking for a pure trophy, she'll definitely do.

(Message edited by stevio on November 08, 2004)

(Message edited by stevio on November 08, 2004)

I went looking for her thurs night but I guess I was one night too early