Koro said: "Two ways to define slim, one scientific, the other not. Science says 40 kgs is the upper threshold."

FORTY kilos? You have GOT to be kidding me, right? That's about 88 pounds. That is considered a "normal, healthy" weight in the U.S. for a TWELEVE year old girl!!

I don't think I know any healthy women that are that skinny. Unless they are four foot nothing.

"Yours to spend that way if you've got it, but it still boggles my mind."

Thank you.

"In Cambo, a fresh, pretty VN girling is $20 o/n max, so excuse me while I go into deep culture shock."

Asia is simply to expensive for me. The associated costs with traveling there makes it impossible for me, at this point. Now, if someone would invent a way to teleport me there and back...

"I'm lucky enough to be able to travel there frequently, so I just look at the money being mentioned here as substantial parts of the $600 plane tix."

I WISH it was just the direct costs involved in going. But life doesn't work out that way. My sunk costs to travel to Asia would be in the thousands before I ever stepped off the plane.

"I hope the girls treat you to $200 - $250 of terrific time, and that you're a satisfied guy."

I am. They treat me well, usually. If they don't they never see me again. And compared to the alternatives, the costs in TJ are reasonable. Much less than what I would have to pay here, and I feel I get more and get treated better to boot.

"So I know what the formalities are, but I also know they're broken all the time. Most were CC girls, they got me out of a lot of bar-fines."

Oh ya. But I try to post what the average guy is gonna encounter. And it REALLY depends on the chica, and her relationship at that point with the bar management. I was seeing a chica for a time that management was pissed at, and they suddenly became really strict about the bar fine. And, they wouldn't let HER pay it so she could leave - only if she was going with a customer. So she would slip me a $20, and I would pay it!

Prior to that, and with a couple of other chicas, they seemed to come up with many scams to avoid the bar fine. But sometimes it is just simplier to pay it....

At first I thought this post was heading off-topic for La Tropa, except that it replies to DOM's notes. Then I realized that it's *completely* about La Tropa...what it is, and what it isn't. And so too for TJ in general.

Remember that my point in getting into this thread was to draw on CH collective knowledge to see if I could set up a little BKK-like harem in TJ rather than fall into the usual go-to-Asia-return-a-recluse syndrome (even if the harem must consist of just 1 girl!). Not sure it's possible. I was able to live with compromise in the past, just seems like there's more than I can handle these days (literally). I used to have fun in TJ, but as the song says - 'Woncha tell me - where have all the good times gone?'

*****

DirtyOldMan wrote:

Koro said: "Two ways to define slim, one scientific, the other not. Science says 40 kgs is the upper threshold."

DOM replied: FORTY kilos? You have GOT to be kidding me, right? That's about 88 pounds. That is considered a "normal, healthy" weight in the U.S. for a TWELVE year old girl!!

Koro: 61% of US adults are technically overweight (56% obese) according to the CDC, 1999 - see their website - higher now, 3 years later. One in five children. Why should the resulting average determine my preference in girls?

BTW - adult height in SEA, roughly - males 5'5, females 5'. Seems just about right when you look at them - LAX is pretty traumatic for me on my return.

******

For a Dirty Old Man, I'm a little surprised at your reaction. I actually lied upwards to prevent heart attacks (are you OK?). When I go to Asia, I hold out for 35 kg's (and get it), but have been known to lapse to 40 if the girl's a winner.

You have to picture a Thai bar-girl whom I'd seen on my way in to Cambo, saying that I'd check in on her a month later on my out (she's thinking, 'Yeah, sure'). When I came back, appearing in the doorway of her club, she launched her 35 kgs straight at me from 3 meters away, legs and arms thrown forward to wrap them hard and snug around my neck and waist, the boa-constrictor lock. Caught her with one arm - didn't want to shock-test the notebook computer I was carrying in the other. Can you picture that?

A flying smile. No, make that *two* flying smiles, one horizontal, the other vertical.

Healthy enough to fly! - no 'wasting diseases' here. They eat *all* the time, just not what we do.

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Re costs: I'm not sure what your term 'sunk costs' means, but it sounds rough. In any case, my out-of-pocket costs look like this:

Thailand:

$600 round trip to BKK (KAL bucket shop)

$18 per night, 3-star hotel right near the action
$1-$2 taxis most places, high-speed train $0.50 (both unnecessary)
$2-$4 for a major meal, any style (local = ~$1)
$2 drinks in bar
$3-$3.50 for ladies' drinks
$11 bar fine
$22 tip for short-time
$33-$44 tip for overnight
$2 for girl to take taxi home or back to club

So call it max $100 a day - I don't stick around BKK long. Have to search for scientifically slim girls these days (unlike 1995), but they're there. Add 1 hour to the night's search to find a nice one.

Cambodia: $160 return from BKK (1 hour flight)

$14-$20 hotel, better than BKK (I have an apartment - $800 a year, use it ~14 weeks)
$0.25 - $0.50 motorbike anywhere downtown (taxis are usually rented by the day)
$1-$2 for major local meal ($2-$4 for western style)
$2 return to Svay Pak (K11) [brothel village]
$3-$5 short time at K11 ($5-$10 in town)
$20 overnight
$1 max for girl to return to place of work

no bar fine, no obligatory drinks

So call it $50 a day in Phnom Penh, $1500 for the month. With one's choice of scientifically slim girls.

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Sure, I lose 5 weeks' pay when I go. Thousands. Maybe that's what your term 'sunk costs' means. There's an adage that says "I spent half my money on women - and wasted the rest."

The trouble, of course, is that I can't sustain that kind of expense while I'm in the west the other 38 weeks of the year...and the La Tropa prices sort of stung because it sounded like they were approaching the same order of magnitude.

I think I get it now, though - it's just being asked to pay by the pound.

Koro,

"...it's just being asked to pay by the pound."

Thanks for the hearty chuckle. :0)

Regards,
RickFeliz

Koro:

I run my own business, and to be out of range of clients for more than a few hours means I have to pay someone to cover for me - up front, about $400 a day.

Plus the cost of lost business, of course. (No workie, no payie)

TJ works for me because I can work all day, and be in TJ (and in a chica) a couple of hours later. Party all night, and be available on call the next day.

Different strokes for different folks....

I am still amazed at your definition of skinny. I had a GF once who was a runner. Fighting weight for her, at 5'1" was 105 pounds, and there was NO fat on her anywhere. I actually liked her better at around 115. She looked awsome at either weight, IMHO, BTW.

Koro said: "61% of US adults are technically overweight (56% obese) according to the CDC, 1999 - see their website - higher now, 3 years later. One in five children."

Purposefully why I did NOT quote an average - I quoted what is considered HEALTHY for a 12 YO girl. That is NOT the average, but what is desireable from a health standpoint. I would agree that the average is no doubt higher than that. BIG difference (no pun intended).

"Why should the resulting average determine my preference in girls?"

AH! I think this has been my point all along: This is your PREFERENCE. Nothing scientific about it, it just happens to be what YOU like.

As I said, different strokes for different folks....

I suspect that the 85 pounder that you think looks wonderful I would consider too skinny. And Porker would say "Damn! Double D's and NO body at ALL!!!" (He thinks I like them skinny with small or no boobs, he likes HUGE tits....)

Now, how do I get paid by the pound? I could retire post haste....

DirtyOldMan:

Good response. I understand the 'sunk costs' money issue now. I worked for 15 years with a specific person to arrange a life-style where I'm not only not bound to my place of work, but can also take light work with me when I travel, factoring my absence into work schedules, earning the $50-a-day costs while I'm away, and usually covering the tix as well. But it was a very long and difficult process, moving away from writing code for one-of-a-kind hardware platforms that were so secret they couldn't be moved from floor to floor, let alone outside the building (or country!) - to where I can work at a higher level with a pencil, eraser, a blank piece of paper and a word processor. Need I say it's been worth it?

In agreement with you on all points, enjoyed your joke about being paid by the pound. Maybe you could sell a kidney or something by way of compromise.

folks, i've been to this bar again the last couple of friday and saturdays and it is far from dead. some new talent and quite frankly i like the talent i found in febuary when i first went in. i'm making the small bar rounds lately and if anyone is ever planning on stopping by drop me a message and i'll meet you there if you are interested.

Sampson:

(1) The original point in this thread was indeed talent, particularly verification of the rumor that there were slimmer girls around. Then the subject of the girls' availability came up, after the doorman probably lied to me as I left after one of my visits, telling me that 'Yes, all the girls go upstairs', which doesn't appear to be the case from other posts here.

(2) I didn't mean, when I first started in on this thread, that the place was dead activity-wise. The dances and games were a bit silly, perhaps, but stuff *was* going on on stage...however, it usually didn't seem to be oriented to encourage girl-customer couplings (chair games [4 girls, three chairs, the music stops; then 3 girls, 2 chairs, etc.], and girls dancing very much with each other rather than for the audience).

The monger-encouragement factor appeared to be low, no eye- or other quasi-contact from the girls at all despite how close they were to me, on-stage or not, quite cool all around, except for the eagerness of waiters to sell lap-dance chits (no thanks) and more beer every time I took a swig, starting with the first, ie bottle still 95% full. The waiters certainly made me feel welcome!

Got approached by girls twice, once when I was at a table right at the stage (on a weeknight, for a bit of medium-pressure juicing), then on a Friday, by a girl following the lap-dance-chit-seller around, who was - to stay polite - a pretty Rubenesque woman.

(3) Then the thread got bogged down in the past vs. the present. Some info was a bit dated, and things seem to have been changing remarkably quickly in the bar. I visited twice this year, once each in January and February, and based my comments and questions on what I saw at that time.

(4) We then moved on to money...barfines and "tips". The interesting thing that emerged was that hardly anybody had gone with any of the girls, which says a lot, but I'm not sure *what*, exactly. I know I certainly had the juice pressure put on me, and not much else, both by one of the girls (on my first visit) and the waiters (both times) - like once a minute - so we've been doing a lot of speculating in this thread for want of hard information on actually getting upstairs with the girls.

(5) Now back to you: With all this in mind, were you just window-shopping from a distance, or did you get a chance to talk turkey with any of the girls? Part of the problem here has been the lack of information on how the girl negotiations might go. I haven't been motivated yet to do the research required - did you get any numbers?

(6) And I'm curious as to the approximate male:female ratio, and the number of girls who were working. I mentioned that on my February Friday-night visit, it varied between 2:1 to 3:1 male over female, with about a dozen girls working (and not very hard). On the week-night - a Tuesday - that I dropped in in January, the ratio was much better, but there were fewer girls of course, and I suspect the lookers were taking the night off, as would be expected on a slow night. Actual numbers escape me now.

(7) Thanks for your post. Thought maybe the thread had gone moribund...

Koro, my post wasn't actually in response to anything you said. however i know from firsthand experience that at least two do go up. i am thinking that the 3 english speaking sisters, which are all attractive from my point of view do not. they seem to be content to just sit and talk. have not made any move with any of them. there are a couple of hotties in there that i haven't got close to and then there is a couple of dancers one chilanga and one they say is from los angeles that don't appeal to me. the chilanga is hot looking, but i get a bad drug vibe from her and don't want to play. the price i paid was $80 for the evening on both occasions-one time with a bar fine and one time without.

Thanks - facts! Late-breaking news!

Interesting situation with respect to bar fine / no bar fine...

i don't think anything changed on the bar fine--i just persuaded the chica to "sneak out".

Getting her to 'sneak out' is significant! We've seen this in the thread before, at other places (I mentioned CC, Youngbrig mentioned Miami, there may have been others).

So the bar fine - somewhat hefty (I presume we're talking $25 here, not the $90 overnight/off-premises fine) - is actually a negotiable item if you play it right. That's good news.

practically spent the last three days at this place and the manager has informed me that new chicas arriving on wednesday 3-13-02. would like to be there to great the newbies, but afraid it is not in my schedule.

I finally gave this place a try. I walked on Coahuila at around 8 pm and felt borderline unsafe. I really wouldn't want to go there much later. The bar inside is reasonably clean, some decent chicas, but the music was simply way too loud. After 30 minutes my ears hurt and I wouldn't have been able to keep up a conversation in English, not to mention Spanish! I was relieved when I stepped out into the quiet TJ night.

Hey, DirtyOldMan (and anybody else who cares):

A while ago (seems like eons - March 5) we were talking about slimness, and I'd given two definitions, one scientific, the other perceptual (the latter: if a girl works in TJ, she isn't slim). In the name of science, I gave a measurable, testable threshold of 40 kgs as an upper limit...you were stunned, and replied:

DOM> "FORTY kilos? You have GOT to be kidding me, right? That's about 88 pounds. That is considered a "normal, healthy" weight in the U.S. for a TWELVE year old girl!!"

Just for the record, my reference point is Southeast Asia, the category is TinyGirl, and to corroborate my definition, I found this remark on the Asia-focus e-mail list 'ASFO' today:

ASFO contributor> "Now, I have totally given up trying to track Wife #1, Wife #2 and so forth
with him. I can tell he prefers spinners. Ladies weighing over 80 lbs. need not apply."

That was the Philippines, we're talking 36.36 kilos here, and this serves as the UPPER limit. The context of the remark doesn't matter much, they were just commiserating about domestic disasters in the west that took them to Asia permanently...where you can pick a girl up, get her panties off, spray your middle finger with WD-40, insert gently and get her rotating comfortably at 4 or 5 rpm with your digit along the vertical axis of her spin, just above your head and over your shoulder. When you get bored of this game and/or she comes, you set her down and douche her up. (Do not eat without taking this last step.)

LBFMPBR means Little Brown Fucking Machine Powered By Rice. Little means 'what you're not bloody likely to find in TJ'. Just wanted to provide a little evidence that I wasn't totally over the edge - or at least alone - when I stated my spec. SEA is full-spectrum, you picks and chooses 'em as you sees fit. Note that they used the word 'ladies'. TinyGirls make for cheap dinner dates, as an added plus.

Which means I'm simply a victim of culture shock when I go down to the clubs in TJ and have private conversations with myself like, 'Strange, didn't look like a barn from the outside, what's with all the heifers on the inside?'

Leaving late April for 5 weeks of sanuk in Thailand and Cambodia. With the usual (reasonable) requirement specs: 35 kg's and no hair below the nape of the neck. If she's not in this bar, she'll be in the one next door. I *do* like playing helicopter from time to time.

(Still looking, now and then, for a miracle in TJ. Onward ho', so to speak...)

One point I'm sure you're conveniently overlooking: If the girls in TJ were all 13 they'd be pretty damned emaciated also. But thanks for weighing in.

Porker

13? Why go after the old ones...?

Seriously though - you need to check it out there. Hot little sweeties weighing next to nothing willing to rock your world until you kick HER out!! For the price of a session with Gloria and the ST room you can stay in a suite and barfine a girl until the following afternoon!! Quite the value...

E

Porker:

Don't know if you've been to SEA, but these girls/ladies aren't missing any vital parts - they just grow right - on rice, not on carbs a la carbs, dripping in 'jugo de carne'. They are *not* anorexic, they're just bloody lovely. Their bones actually have negative mass, that's part of the secret. They wear tall platform shoes in order to not just float away.

I'm not sure exactly what it is you're suggesting that I'm 'conveniently overlooking': there's nothing emaciated about the girls working in the City of Angels (BKK). They're perfectly proportioned (to my taste), and bundles but bundles of energy. Test: just ask one, 'Isn't it time we got you a new gold necklace, my little kitty kat?' and see if *you* can keep up. She'll be waiting for you at the gold shop jumping up and down at the counter, doncha even start to worry about losing her in the crowd.

Speaking medically now, and on a deeply serious level, I kust love the way the mound of venus becomes so prominent on a TinyGirl's frame when she's lying down...she's 35% pussy! Nice and tight too.

Epimetheus:

Bang on. That's why it's so hard for me to drop your average $100 on a typical night in TJ with a gordita club girl, taxis, drinks, more drinks, room, 'tip', etc. In SEA it's far less once you've arrived (see my price breakdown in this thread, above) and if you do your choosing right, A GFE starting from the first glance across the room.

But don't get me started! I still have to get through a full 11.5 days before boarding the plane to BKK...do you know how many MINUTES that is? My blood is already boiling (the good way), or is that a hormone imbalance developing in perfect response to what's to come, and certain to be straightened out after I arrive?

And don't get me started on the 13 yo sylphs! At that age, they may have lost their winglets, but they can still fly...I've seen it! Vertical take-off and landing, hovering around you like a hummingbird, driving you nuts no problem at all. Part of the secret might be those platform shoes, though, now that I think of it.

("Hello hansum man, what you name, where you stay? How long you stay Bangkok, you like me, you pay bah me?" ... Courtship phase over! Clock time, including floating across the room to get next to you: 15 seconds. Yeah, I pay bar you...and see you tomolO, too!)

Koro

First off, if you slut around TJ like I do then you're looking at about $150/night. That is a few drinks for the ladies, food and water for me, and NUMEROUS SG's for my dick!!

I have found providers in TJ that will give me a PI-like session. The only problem is the session is 30 minutes instead of 15 hours!! The 30 minutes runs about the cost of a BF in AC.

I have never been to BKK. I know one of these days when I can throw together MORE money I will test drive ALL the women there too!!

However, for my money, the PI currently is a value that can't be beat!! I know the food and lodging are less in BKK, but the girls cost more. Since I need to lose weight anyway I might as well eat a little less and BF 2 LBFM's instead of one for the same price!! Granted, Thai women are INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL, but I have seen their matches in clubs like Volcano, Nero's and Blue Nile. This is just AC. The women in Manila make me just shudder they are so hot!!

Thai women sell sex - PI women sell love. I know that Ootie loves his GFE and if he went he would never return. Even the BAD sessions in PI rival some good sessions I've had in TJ. If I could figure out a way to tele-commute from AC my family members would NEVER SEE ME AGAIN!!!!!!!! I would probably come to the US every couple of years for dental work whether I needed it or not, but that's it!! If they want to see me then THEY can get on the plane!!

E

Epi ...


$150 a night...yipes! Four of those and you've paid for tix to Manila or BKK!

You say you "need to lose weight anyway" in the same post with "I have never been to BKK. I know one of these days when I can throw together MORE money I will test drive ALL the women there too!!"

Sounds like a self-correcting problem to me. You're going to come back weighing 90 pounds if you do ALL the women waiting for you there!

Be warned...in case you're thinking of letting your guard down...that there's love in Thailand too. Different experience from PI, certainly, but real nonetheless. Buy her that necklace and she's yours, and she'll let you know in lots of really great ways.

Of course guys get fucked over in Thailand by not choosing properly, but there are lots of expats over there who are in love with being "in-loved" with! They're not about to head 'home' anytime soon.

(Slippin a bit off-topic here for La Tropa!!! [my fault])

say koro,
we all have our favorite places and our value systems in place and then some just get kind of silly when they are around pussy.
traveling for a mongering week just doesn't work into my schedule, but a day and a half in tj can be worked out often. i know you guys will have fun and i'm looking forward to your reports.

back to la tropa--i hope you get a chance to stop by. if i remember you usually drink soda, so i will see that that is comped to for you or anyone else. i did have to pay a bar fine again last night around 9:00, but it was $20. that is a lot better, but i haven't paid anything in several weeks so i was a little taken back.
there is a new hottie in there named Lucia i believe, but haven't seen anyone but one guy get after her. he appears to be local and has been with her the last three times i've been in. he must have big bucks, cause he is going through them quickly. i know i'm not GQ model, but this dude is about 5 feet tall and 5 feet wide. it just goes to show you it is all about the benjamins.

really hope to see as many of you as possible on thursday, if for nothing else to swap stories, cause i know we all have a few. pussy raffle as well.

Sampson...

Thanks for the invite...heard about things from Headinsouth. It's pencilled in, should be able to make it.

Weird about the bar fine situation. I wonder of the time of night has anything to do with it (in Cambo, the mamasans are more willing to bargain down as the night gets on.)

ANd yes, you're right, I drink soda. Man I hope you've got photographic recall on important stuff as well!!!!!

Be seeing ya, 80%+ confidence factor.

LBFM,PBR

hate to show my ignorance, but i do it every day anyway. can someone translate?--i don't think it is spanish. in the midwest PBR was pabst blue ribbon---i'm guessing that isn't where you were going?
btw diego, i have another issue i'd like to discuss with you if possible. i tried to e-mail you a few months ago, but yours is not available. i believe you can get to mine from this site. take care

Sampson...re LBFM,PBR:

In my post of April 17 I gave the definition:

Little brown fucking machines, powered by rice.

HeadinSouth and I dropped in tonight (Thursday), dead as a doornail. 4 girls. Alerted the elegantly dressed mamasan/director type there that there'd be better be a slew of girls there next Thursday to accomodate Sampson's fiesta. She asked 'Is it someone's birthday?' then assured me that the place would be chock full. Abraham at the door concurred that the party was anticipated and wouldn't be a letdown.

The Accidental Visit to La Tropa

OK, I know I told the cab driver at the border to take me to Bar Tropical so why am I being dropped off at La Tropa? No problem, I haven’t tried either place yet so I went in and checked it out, saw enough cuties to stay awhile.

The place wasn’t packed. It was maybe a third full which is pretty good for a weeknight. The music was too damned loud. But the drink prices were OK - $1.50 for a beer, $6 for fichas.

As mentioned in numerous posts above which I read after coming here, it’s kind of a strange place for TJ:

The girls do NOT approach customers or pester them for drinks or dances. They hang out in groups at a table or by the bar.

The price for a private dance is $11 per song FIRM – it’s printed on tickets they issue. There’s no budging on this price at all. Not even 2 for $21! That’s a first for me.

A girl will only sit with a customer if he buys her a ficha. And she will drink one every 15 to 20 minutes. If you say no mas, she’ll get up within a couple of minutes. One girl told me she gets in trouble if she stays without a drink.

The dance area is used for couples who dance AND for girls who strip. The best strategy with a girl is to dance as much as possible – slow of course! That way they slow down on their beer consumption.

Now for me, I like the girls keeping to themselves because at least 7 to 10 were available at any time and I can pick the one most appealing to me. For some reason I chose a different physical type than usual for me. I saw Sophia at a table with three other girls. Actually, I saw Sophia’s tits. She’s a big girl – very big tits and ass, nice curvy shape but a little on the heavy side. About 5’ 7”, with an attractive face and long, curly hair. I’d rate her a 7 to 8 if you’re a tit man, 6 if you’re a leg man.

I went over and asked her (in fractured Spanish) if she’d like to join me for a drink. She agreed and came back with me to my table. We had a drink and, after a little getting acquainted, I did a couple of private dances with her. While not as nasty as I’ve had at Pussycats, it wasn’t bad and her tits really were pretty fantastic – totally natural DDs. She also was willing to do some very nice, deep kissing. As the night went on, I noticed that there is not much lap dancing going on here even though they have an area set aside for it.

We had a few more drinks while she sat in my lap and we talked. Her English was non-existent and so I had a lot of time to practice my Spanish. It’s still really, really bad but a lot better than a month ago. Sophia told me that she had been working in TJ only a few weeks. She mentioned how she lived nearby with three other girls. I eventually asked if there was anywhere we could go for sex and she told me about the Zona hotel next door that they use. The room is $11 and I agreed to pay her sixty for a blowjob and sex for 30 minutes. She accepted so fast I realized I should have offered less.

Inside the room, she started getting undressed and invited me in the shower with her. She really does have a very sexy, voluptuous body. I washed her all over, especially her squeezable tits, while she gave my cock and balls a thorough soaping. The water does go from one extreme to the other – hot-cold-hot. You can get it right with some effort. After drying off, we got in the bed and she reached immediately for a condom. I had a full hard-on from the shower with her but I told her to wait a few minutes. Some of the pros in TJ are in such a rush to finish, they’ve got your cock in their pussy in the first 10 seconds in bed. I figured by keeping myself uncovered for a while, this will get her to slow down.

To my surprise, Sophia misunderstood and basically thought I wanted a BBBJ, which she proceeded to give me! She really did some great work on my cock. After a while, I was ready to fuck her and she put on the condom. She actually had difficulty getting it on and I had to help her. Later, I realized that maybe she really was fairly inexperienced. We fucked in a number of positions. I finished going doggy style holding onto her round ass. She was a great lay and her body really turned me on.

We took another shower together, dressed, and left the room after a little more than 30 minutes. We went back to the bar and had a few more drinks, did some really fun slow dancing. She was giggling as my cock was already stiff again and rubbing up against her pussy. I must have continued drinking with her for another hour. Eventually, I had to go but I have to say, Sophia was good company and I will definitely go with her again in the future. I’m still going to try out Bar Tropical soon!

RunGuy

if you were there thursday evening then maybe you were sitting at the table next to jesus, another monger, and myself. had lots of fun there thursday myself. small report upcoming.

Wasn't me. I went on Tuesday night. Look forward to reading your report though. If you don't mind getting up and picking your girl, it's not a bad place.

RunGuy

Taking a tour of Jenny

Went back to Bar La Tropa last Tuesday night. A few real cuties mixed in with the rest of the chicas. And not too busy so I can pretty much pick and choose. I hooked up with Jenny, a very shapely chica who just melted into my lap when I bought her a ficha. We talked for a while – as usual, no English whatsoever. She doesn’t even know the days of the week fer Christsake!

But so what right? She’s sweet company with fantastic, smooth skin. I invite her upstairs for an hour - $50 dollars OK? “Si, es bueno” she replies. This seems like a helluva deal for me but I need to go even lower or longer the next time. No one’s even negotiating on my offers. We go upstairs at the hotel next-door. I went ahead and took a room for the night ($28 bucks rather than $24 for an hour).

Jenny showers and gets into bed. She’s got a terrific body, not too soft or hard, great shape, cute face, tits not real big but soft with no sag. Having an hour really does change the pace of things. There’s no rush. Everything is relaxed. Jenny’s not at all aggressive or pushy. She’s perfectly happy to do what I want. We did some deep kissing, blowjob (covered), and great sex.

Afterward, we still had lots of time to lie in bed, talking. I loved the feeling of her smooth, toned body, kissing and sucking her tits, more deep French kissing. Very GFE. I really can’t do the all-nighter since I’ve got to be able to function the next day at work with my San Diego customer. If I can lower the price a little more, I think a two on one would be very doable within my $150 per night limit.

Anyone tried this here? Are the chicas open to it or would it piss off the two ladies I’ve already been with?

RunGuy

i don't know jenny, but i've had some comical problems bouncing from chica to chica in there. have done all nighters with 4 chicas out of there since feb--and paid 80, 80, 80, and free. i think that 50 is probably about what they expect for short time, but was amazed at what they asked for for the entire eveining. at ab it is almost reversed when the lady will begin notiating at a unreasonable rate--you probably could get short time for 40.

Sampson

Do you think there would be any problems getting an all night room at thier Hotel Zona Norte on Friday or Saturday night?
Taxibob

no i don't. i have paid for my room as late as 3:30am. now if you paid during the early evening would be even less of a chance of being shut out. there was one night when the guy at the desk told me they were full, so i went to the manager. he just told the guy to find me a room and he did. i don't know if you've ever been in those room, because they aren't anything to write home about. one thin blanket--tv that works--showers work, but i cannot seem to adjust the temp to an acceptable level--always one extreme or the other. late check out time --i think 2pm.
btw stopped in last night and saw a couple of newbies. just hung with the boyz though.

I stayed there one night when they were new.Do the rooms still have the big fans mounted on the walls?and do any of them still work?
Taxibob

they are there--but i haven't tried to use one. i would guess they work.

I made an appearance at La Tropa for the Lewis-Tyson fight. I hooked up with HeadinSouth, Sampson and Jesus. Just before (or was it during?) the fisticuffs a very nice strip show took place. As far as quality of strip shows in the ZN there is CC, AB and then a big drop-off to anything else. I have peeked into some of the alley bars and it can get scary when some of those chicas undress. But I must say La Tropa is recruiting some decent talent.

Cute, young and slender was the order of the day. And wouldn’t you know, a young cutie with a bodacious booty slipped her g-string down, down, down, and all the way off during her second song. Say what? HeadinSouth reported that this total nudity was not unheard of at La Tropa. The guy in charge of the stage lighting had adjusted the lights down, but it was still a pleasant new wrinkle to the standard TJ routine.

A little later a ‘shower show’ took place starring a tall slender bikini-clad beauty who I will not identify by name. Let’s just call her HSFF (HeadinSouth’s Future Fiancé). Under a very bright light she hopped into the enclosed cubicle. Once the water started the glass fogged up a bit, but HSFF kept the glass clear with the hand sprayer. She danced a couple songs with a little dude who appeared to be about 14 years old. He was having the time of his life. She playfully tried to pull his swimsuit down, but he wouldn’t let her.

The youngster left and HSFF proceeded to get totally nude for a song or two. Do women always look better when wet? Two naked women in one evening! I must send a letter of thanks to the new Chief of Police. But the best was yet to come at Peanuts & Beer…

"She danced a couple songs with a little dude who appeared to be about 14 years old."

Probably the chica's older brother!

Dropped by last night. Dead at 10:00 pm. Big blond dropped herself on my lap and nearly broke the chair. Beer at $2.50 is expensive for a secondary bar.

headinsouth future finace is not the teenage runaway, but in fact a new chica that is 18.

694you

It is 2.50 for 2 beers.
That is a very good price.

big blond sitting on your lap is better than Redongdo sitting on your lap


I might hit this place tonight before hittin Pulgies
Who will be here ?
take care
Milkmenance

Maybe me with the novia, going to El Nido in Rosarito to eat first though.

i've got to hit tj sometime this weekend to fix the apartment to look as if no one has been there. hehehe
i'm terrible, i really want to be a good boy, but temptation is a motherfucker.....
if i make it i'll call or look for you milky...

MilkyPie,

I'll do anything for a free beer!

Redongdo...searching for a blonde wig

Red: I'll ask Angela DF to lend me her wig and you can sit on Milky's lap.

694me,

Do I get fichas with those beers?

For $9 you can any drink you want, plus $3 worth of scrap toilet paper.

"It is 2.50 for 2 beers.
That is a very good price."


No more 2 for 1 beers at any time. At least that's what Jaime and I were told when we dropped in briefly on Sat evening.

Make that Fri evening.

i see prices going up everywhere in the zona right now, but don't know about the single beer prices. fichas are now 6.50 in la tropa--i paid 7.50 in chavelas on saturday afternoon. i believe buckets are still 15 in la tropa. they give me a special price, but i'm sure that the buckets are 15 in the evenings. the buckets come with 10 beers and you can mix the brands if you like.

checked this place out sat night around 3am, and they had this wild oil wrestling show in a big orange looking foam pool.. A couple of hottie latinas were wrestling for a while, then some latino guy came out in tighty whiteys underwear and he wrestled the two chicas, then they had a contest that involved the chicas trying to take off the guys underwear.. this lasted for about 20 minutes, then ended, then they left and showered... pretty interesting place..

Regarding the lesbian show that Sampson has mentioned a few times in the threaded board. I believe it's Friday and Saturday nights around midnight (give or take an hour or so). Is this fairly consistent or is it really hit and miss? Are the oil wrestling shows something different and also on other nights (Thursday?).

oil wrestling is different--sometimes they do both and there has been know lesbian show the last two saturdays--i believe they had it on fridays. not sure why no saturday and will get an answer tonight.