The problem is, if the people who you "rented" the house from, Charles and Janeire, wanted to make trouble, you may have problems. They went so far as to put a disclaimer on the web:

"Note: We are not affiliated in any way to the so called "Batman's House". Please do not confuse us with them. We are a family with Christian values and do not condone the actions of their services.

Charles and Janeire"

Source: ClubHombre; Topics; Cali Discussion at Gator on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 07:07pm


You've also publicly incriminated yourself where you make yourself out to be a pimp.

For example, you say "On the other site - I only promote non-pros which is why you see Alondra..of course I'm gonna have the Pros for all the mongers on this board! I plan on making this the Bunny Ranch of Cali if all goes according to plan."

Source: ClubHombre; Topics; Cali Discussion at Batman on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 04:57pm


Now, since you never owned that house as you stated your boasts of "promoting non-pros" was probably just fantasy: "All - I have now purchased a very modern house 4BD/2bth with Large pool in Cali. It is available for rent in a very safe, secure and upscale neighborhhod [sic] in Cali. Please refer to the links section for the URL."

Source: ClubHombre; Topics; Cali Discussion at Batman on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 08:30pm


But apparently some people aren't very happy with the whole Batman's House episode: I'm not speaking for Batman (I don't even know the guy personally), but I would read some of the many posts on Planetlove.com (latin message board) and Caligringo.com website concerning Batman's Cali operation. Most of it is negative bantering about many things that were misrepresented or overrepresented by Batman and his being "da man" in Cali. Seems like he has a lot of enemies as a result. I have no first hand knowledge of anything, but I've read enough that my warning flags are all up. Just from the reading over three separate message boards, I've read several different versions of his "stories" that he has zero credibility in my book- unless he can convince me I'm wrong or jumping to conclusions. I'd be careful before giving money to some "local expert," even if it's just for a place to stay (apparantly, "his" house was not even "his" house, he got kicked-out of it--even after he told us about how he bought the place). Beware...

Source: ClubHombre; Topics; Cali Discussion at Maverick on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 04:55pm

I don't know what is meant by "Seems like he has a lot of enemies as a result." Only you know what that means and January of this year wasn't yesterday, but it wasn't that long ago.

I'd be careful. They are VERY careful checking passports when arriving in Medellin and Bogota. I don't know what database they are checking the names up against but I sure wouldn't want to find out firsthand if my name was on one of them.

Good luck!

WS

Again, I am advising you be be careful. You have enemies in Cali. Remember the movie "Midnight Run?" My nephew stopped by the house in Cali and got an earfull

Gator,

Did you mean Midnight Express? Funny you should mention that. Everytime I go on a trip, I ask this one guy in the office if he wants to come with me. And everytime he says, "No thanks - I've seen Midnight Express too many times. I'll just go home to Jersey."

I always get a kick out of that, although being on the inside of a Turkish (or Colombian) prison would certainly be no laughing matter.

WS

I heard Turkish prisons are worst in the world so that's why you will never see me mongering in Turkey or any other Muslim country. There are too many options there even after eliminating 40-50 countires out of 255 or so. Why take a life threatening risk. Everything else is subject to replacement but life is only one.

BTW, Wallstreet, good investigating post on this thread.


JKarp

"Midnight Express" was the movie, not "Midnight Run." Having a brother-in-law who was, as part of his career, military police commander of the Federal District Santa Fe de Bogotá, I have seen the inside of a Colombia prision. You never want to be a guest, believe me. If there was evan a chance I would end up there I would not take the risk.

Thanks JKarp,

I totally agree. And it never ceases to amaze me that some guys forget that the US Constitution and all rights protected thereunder ceases to exist out US Borders.

The last thing you want to do in a foreign country is something stupid and have law enforcement get involved.

And I would also be very wary of crossing a foreign national on his/her turf. If a Colombian national, on a visitor's visa, and spoke little English got into a beef with me in NY and I called the cops, who's side of the story would the cops be inclined to believe? Me, or the foreign vistor who's only in this country to screw prostitutes?

As far as the investigating, I read every post in every Colombian thread when researching my first trip to Colombia, including all the posts that I "cited" above. Then I saw Batman's post on September 19th where he asks for comments regarding the fallout from the Batman's House episode.

And since he asked. . .

WS

Wall Street

Why are you re-posting that crap? geez...man that was not even what I was discussing.


I already found the answer I was looking for, and
since I KNOW I did nothing wrong, I am not worried. I guess the origial intetion of my post was more targeted to find out wether or not being in the same house w/ another man who *tried* to date younger girls in Colombia would be reason for concern. I found out that I should not worry about that - heck Colombia does not even care about that - many local Colombian men date younger women and some are even cops themselves... I've visited Colombia long enough to see this first-hand. Unlike the US, older men w/ younger girls is about as normal as cream in your coffe; that is a laughable matter in Colombia unless the girls are forced into sex by way of rape or drugged.

Regardless, I spoke with a local District Attorney buddy of mine in Barranquilla recently, and he just laughed at the matter stating that I should be the one to pursue a lawsuit for defamation of character if any accusations were made by the hostess whose names I will keep confidential - I choose to go about my business and continue to hobby instead of wasting my vacation on foolishness.


Thanks - this case is closed...on to more important information...sex in Medellin!

I still say the rates you paid for pro action in Medellin are outrageous!

Glad to be travelling to Colombia once again!









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By the way, Gator - sorry to hear about your nephew. I wish I could of warned you ahead of time about the entire incident, and save him the trouble.

To clear things up once again since Wall street has so kindly reposted that foolish old thread as if we could not look up archives ourselves.

When I was in Cali, I was kicking around the idea of a marriage agency with a different twist.

As with every group, I ended up with a real bad apple in the group who decided he would be there to bring all sorts of cheap puta looking girls to his room since he was a "big baller" back in the US. It ruined it for all of us, as he would play LOUD music at 4AM, waking up the entire neighborhood as well as the local hosts dancing w/ girls he would bring home from local discos/bars wherever...

Hence, they were thrown out and I was asked to leave as well since he was part of my group and the perception was that it was I who was bringing these particular loud girls back to the motel, which was not so in this particular case.

That is why I asked if there would be any reason for concern Wall - street..had I known you would use that just 'cuz you are still sore at me for saying you over-paid in Medellin for your action on your trip report, I would of held back.

I have nothing to fear - I do not travel to other countries to carry out illegal activities, hell I have much better things to do with my time - like chase skirts - just like anyone else on this board does when they travel outside US borders for some fun. You, I take do not like that as you have mentioned previously.

As far as me having enemies is concerned, hell well if someone wants to make trouble out of nothing - go ahead, let them waste their time...I will not waste my time on foolishness during my vacation.

This will be the last thing I post about this incident - please don't ask - I come here to exchange information to travel safely and enjoy the hobby - like everyone else.










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Batman,

I’m not "sore at you" for saying I overpaid in Medellin. My interpretation is that I paid prices that you simply cannot afford. If you read the responses to my report, many respected posters agreed that I did not overpay. I believe you get what you pay for and if some people don't understand that (like you) that's fine with me. The higher end clubs aren't for everyone. Since your "da man" and you "got game" I'm sure you'll be reporting that your banging 10s for $20 who then bought you breakfast in the morning.

But now I'm calling your bluff. The last line in your post above says: "I come here to exchange information to travel safely and enjoy the hobby. . ."

The problem is the information you exchange. It is full of inconsistencies, fabrications and lies. You have zero credibility on this board. Look at your photos. There were ALL TAKEN OFF THE BOARD because you stole them from other sites and then flip-flopped as to whether the girls were from Colombia or Panama

I've been on this board for enough time to know that your posts are 90% bullshit. But some people who are new to the board and are interested in getting good, solid info before investing time and money on a trip would be very badly served by getting any advice from you.

My trip reports include the good, the bad and everything in between. If I make a mistake, I report about it so hopefully someone else won't do the same.

I stand by each and every one of my trip reports. I've been told by many that the information contained therein has helped them enjoy their vacations. That's why I post.

Some people need to post fantasies to help stoke their inflated egos.

You are one of those people.

Anyone reading the posts concerning the Batman's House episode as well as the Colombia/Rio showdown in which your lies were exposed by many posters (see the Topics section, Colombia, Advice/Questions/Commentary under the heading Colombia/RIO SHOWDOWN!!) knows that your reports and posts at best need to be taken with a very large grain of salt.

I look forward to your next trip report. Will it be from Medellin (where you’ll be getting girls from Face Dos for $40), or San Andreas (where you’ll have 3 different non-pros flying in to meet you one after the other) or Pereira, where you’ll be arriving Oct 10, 2004 (of course you’ve been talking about a Pereira report for over a year)?

Wherever you report about, I’m sure it’ll be too good to be true.

WS

does anyone have any info on the all columbian girls website and latin encounters website? is it a legit place or what? any info would be nice.
thank you,
anthony
anthonycozzitorto@yahoo.com

I have no experience personally but know someone who does. Latinencounter.com is run by Margareth and Allcolombiangirls by Iveth. My friend has used them along some others and ranks them as average. What is your interest? May be I can suggest some thing depending on what you are looking for.

JKarp

i am just looking for friendship when i am done in columbia with women that are not pro's

If you're interested in those sites I'd recommend reading throught the posts on the latin board on "planet-love" .com (Can't remember the exact site address). It's made up of mostly middle-aged guys looking for their second or third wife in Cali. Pretty funny reading as most seem rather naive about the ways of the world, i.e., "working women." Say something like "I think the girls on latinencounters.com with fake tits may be semi-pros or prostitutes" and the guys will go ballistic! (I've never posted but others have made that claim) I'm not a member but it's rather informative reading, and funny at times. Most of the guys are addicted to the agencies you inquire about.

Maverick, thanks for the info. it is a great help.

Hey fellows...new to this area of clubhombre.

I am a TJ vet (really not care about it but it is only 15 minutes away). Had my first trip to Thailand recently and loved it. I was planning on going back in 8 months but now it looks as if it will be not possible to take 3 weeks off as I wished. So I am looking for alternatives for 7-10days and Colombia sounded good....

Could anyone give me the range of prices expected in P4P short and long? And if anyone can qualify the quality of the interaction? Also what areas maybe be worth visiting not just for the chicas but sightseeing...I am fluent in spanish.

Thanks in advance!

For the first trip I would recomend Cartagena.

Prices

20,000 -60,000 pesos for short time.

80,000 pesos plus for long time.

Depends on your Spanish skills but most people tend to pay about 50K for short and 100K for long.

Interaction is better than Thailand or TJ.

For a week there is plenty of tourist things to do in Ctg.

Hunter

Since you are fluent in Spanish, I'd say you qualify for a non-Cartegena recommendation.

Still, depends what you are looking for. Cartegena could be perfect, but if you specifically want to partake in the following, then I'd guess Cali and/or Medellin or Bogota may be better for you:

- larger or equal focus mix on non-pros
- avoiding touristy travel situations
- appreciate vs. avoid adventure-oriented experiences

For example, when I travel to Colombia I avoid speaking English (it's fun, a challenge, and I learn... and I weed out some pros). Thus, on this single topic, the other location options are favored over Cartegena.

Again, depends on your personal preferences.

Thanks FL...

My personal preference is to stay off the beaten path....I like doing and going with spontaeneity.

I do not mind paying but having the chance to work on my game does not bother me either.

My ideal place to go is somewhere where I have access to mountains/beach w/in a reasonable time as well as good places to party it up big time or fully chill doing recovery. And with a health abundance of pros, fresh pros and non pros.

And the winner is...?

Cali is more off the beaten path than Ctg.

Ctg is a touch easier to pick up non-pros than Cali, but if you speak Spanish and have some front neither place is a problem.

Mountains Medellin then Cali.

Beach Ctg.

Sorry you can't really have both, Santa Marta has mountains close by, but they are not safe and the Santa Marta is not the place really to go looking for girls compared with the above.

Hunter

According to currency conversion for today:
20,000-60,000 pesos = $8 - $24 US
80,000 = $32 US
Maybe add a few dollars since conversion rate is usually less than optimal

IMHO, Colombian girls are second only to Brazilians in looks/service combinatins. I've never been to Colombia, but have been with a number of Colombian girls in other countries. They are my favorite Spanish-speaking latinas.

Note: Others have complained about Colombians at the Del Rey in Costa Rica as being sharks, but my experience with them have been mostly positive.

I'm surprised you're considering the mountains in Colombia.

I hope to visit Colombia in 2005. I'll almost definitely hit Cartegena.

Dude, sounds like you're interested in Costa Rica!

Colombia is awesome, and I recommend you go, but ít's not a place for adventure travel/travelling around between the cities, mountains and the beaches on a whim. In fact, of all the precautions one would take in Colombia, the most critical in my opinion is to stay ON the beaten path (i.e., inside of the cities).

Of course, if you have the $$$ and the time, you can spend a few days in Cartagena for the beaches, a few days in Bogota for the city life, and a few days in Cali for the party. Hell, go to Medellin too, the women there are beautiful.

If it comes down to one city, probably the best for the pro/non-pro combo is Cali. Do your research and stay safe.

LM

Hey guys...thanks for the advice so far.

It is sounding to me like ctg, cali and bogota right now. I will continue educating myself but if you have any pearls of knowledge please pass them along. I guess I will stay on the beaten path.

So what would be the range for allnighter (for at least an 8) without factoring any "game" I may have?

Other than mongering what are must do's there?

Thanks fellows!

The prices are differant in each City for girls.

Weather in the 3 Cities is differant.

Ctg, very hot.

Cali hot.

Bogota is a bit chilly in the evenings, daytime normally OK.

Don't know if that effects you, but I NEVER travel to cold or chilly places less I have to, so I just thought I would mention it.

Hunter

I'm planning on spending about a month in Columbia from the middle of Jan 2005. Any of you guys going to be there? I am planning to fly into Medellin (been there 3 times) but taking off for other locales shortly after arrival.
Anyone in Columbia between 18 Jan and Feb 16 let me know.

On a recent trip to the mountain-coffee growing city of Armenia in Colombia (located 45 minutes from Perreira and almost 2 hours from Cali) I decided to check out the night life and have a night on the town. I found this strip club called Banana Joe's on about 12th or 14th st in the club district. Good music, cold beer, and tv's playing hardcore porn all night while the finest ladies dance. The taxi ride there was less then 5 bucks from my friend's family where I was staying. I was told it was the best strip club in the city and they did not lie. The first night I was sitting there drinking a $1 Poker beer (try finding one at that price in the U.S.!!!) when this beautiful sexy red head Colombian girl started dancing, as it turns out Colombian guys are usually poor tippers and yet this girl was still getting all the tips, I told my friend how I loved that girls thin waist, fat ass, and perfect breasts and when she was done picking up her tips he went and talked to her and she came up to me, she said she thought I was cute and to follow her, I followed her upstairs past the bouncers and all of the sudden we were in her dressing room (it was nice I might add, small but classy) and she was undressing me, she went down on me and I have never met a girl who could perform oral sex like that, doggie style, missionary, she was unbeliveable, of course I used a condom, this girl was a pro, after an hour of nonstop incredible sex we both finished and she asked me for $50,000 pesos which is only $20, I gave her the money and a little extra tip, we talked and she told me her name is Jessica she was 19 and she gave me her number smiled and kissed me again, I took several pictures of her with my camera phone, I mean this girl was such a hottie, she had a tattoo of a tiger and a flower right above her p*ssy and a pierced nipple with the most beautiful breasts you've ever seen. It makes you wonder what a girl that sexy and beautiful is doing stripping, the sad part is this other girl I met a few days later was playing with my phone and ERASED my all my stored pics!!! I was PISSED!!! I visisted the club and a few other clubs not as good during my 1 week trip and I had sex with five of the most beautiful girls I've met. They are not stuck up or conceited like here in the U.S. and they are EASY TO TALK TO, if you tell them you're from the US even better, they'll seduce you on the spot!!! Colombia is nothing like the U.S. 80-90% of the girls are FINE like 8's,9's and even a few 10's. I enjoyed Well I highly recomend Colombia for its beautiful ladies, the cities with the finest sweetest hottest supermodel women are Cali, Meddellin, and Cartagena. My next planned trip..... BRAZIL DURING CARNAVAL!!!!

I'll be in Medellin between Feb 19 and March 5. Anyone traveling on those dates. Maybe have a few drinks.

I have been to costa rica and d'Artagnan is right, most of the colombian girls are very expensive they always ask for $100 of more, sometimes you can talk them down. The fact is that they are expensive because most of the best looking girls at the blue marlin are colombian , even at the casas the girls from colombia are more expensive than the local girls.

I have some pictures from my last trip to medellin if anyone wants to see them send me a message with e-mail and i'll send them.

You guys might want to check out www.playboy-penthouse.com if you're going to visit Medellin. It has WAY more services and amenities than a Hotel, and once you consider all the perks and free stuff like free international calls, laundry, breakfast, no guest fee, etc. It's way cheaper than a hotel... and way more fun too!

So that you know, I'm personaly involved with the Playboy Penthouse. Even though you may consider my opinion biased, the Playboy Penthouse is still a great place to stay. I'll answer any questions you guys have and truely wish you a great time when you visit Medellin. I'm working on putting together some pictures and reports of the girls and places that make this city such a great place, and should be posting them soon.

Hi vorlon, I live in Medellin, so if you want to meet for a coffee, we can arrange to meet closer to the time.

Hunter

Hi Hunter, I've got an off the wall question for you. Do you know of any coin dealers in Medellin? I'm coming to Colombia in January/February and my excuse for going is that I'm on a coin buying trip. I've never been to Medellin and if I know of a coin shop or dealer there I have an excuse for going.

I don't know any, but I suspect there are some here, there are a lot of antique shops, try the yellow pages/hotel reception after you arrive.

Hunter

Tim3rexes, I would also suggest you post your question on the forum below, I know that several people have been involved in the antiques trade who post on the forum:

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/forum/7

Hunter

Hunter,
Many thanks! I've got it posted.

Went to the DR and it was pretty allright. I may do another quickie trip there in a few months but I do have 2 weeks break at the end of the year and I am vacillating between Colombia and Indonesia right now. I am almost decided in Colombia but I would like to ask a couple of questions from the veterans:

1- Between mid December and early Jan...do the prices increase significantly (hotels, chicas)?

2- Does the chica availability decrease/increase?

3- Better to buy tix way ahead of time?

Thanks in advance to all!

One more thing: I just searched COPA for airfares and it looks as if I can get a tix for $750 from LAX...can someone tell me if this is a reasonably good price?

It's always good to purchase early with COPA as their discounted rates sell out first, and what remains are the higher or full fares the closer you get to the flight. $750 is a decent price for that time period. My best fare was $650 from a consolidator, but during a non-peak time. The most was $850.00.

I haven't been there during Xmas/New Years, perhaps some of the CTG regulars can chime in. But my thinking is that for every gal that goes home, there will be two or more to take her place -- i.e. gals coming in to take advantage of more tourists and college gals on break.

I was in Cali in December. Prices are normal. I can't comment regarding girls being in town or away as I spent the whole time with my novia.

It's always better the buy your ticket way ahead of time - unless you can buy a "weekend web-fare" 1.5 weeks in advance. That is a crapshoot as you never know when your city will come up (if ever, especially if you're not located in the right city). Best to put an "alert" into a system like travelocity.com (to monitor fares, not to buy them).

As for determining what is a good fare and what is high - you can use this for LAX/MIA/CLO (or MDE, it's the same), on AA:

AA at least once every month or two has LAX/MIA for about $250. They also recently have MIA/CLO and MIA/MDE at about $400 as a webfare, and about $500 as a fare sale (seasonal). Thus, I'd conclude that you'll not find a better deal (published fare) of $650 (just add them up) - and $750 is average. Don't pay over $800. I'd assume COPA would be in the same ballpark.

For Christmas and the first week of New Year, in Ctg the prices for accomodation double, they charge entry to discos, most things cost more. There are lots of lines, like to eat in the Plaza Santa Domingo you need to book a table etc etc.

The place is packed out, one good point there are tonnes of good easy to lay girls in town.

Cali just after Christmas might be a bit more expensive, there is a fiesta on then.

Medellin is dead at Christmas and New year, so don't go there then, they are all in Ctg, Santa Marta and at the fincas.

Airline tickets cost more then as well.

Hunter

Has anyone been to Pereira recently? Any tips
on strip clubs, pros, non pros, etc.?

Hunter, Merlin, Gator, anyone? Planning my first trip to Colombia in Sept. I've been strictly a Brazil guy in the past. Been trying to read the various trip reports to get some ideas on which city is the best for a Colombia newbie with almost no spanish skills. I think I've narrowed it down to Medellin or Cartagena but i'm a bit brain fried from all the reading.

For a newbie with no spanish, which city is recommended? as soon as i can determine this, i'll concentrate all my research and readings on this city.

Thanks in advance.

No Spanish - go to Cartagena. You will need some knowledge of Spanish to be successful in Medellin

I recently returned from ctg and mde. It was my first trip, but i stayed close to a month. During that time, i felt that cartegena was much more user friendly and a better place to start if it's your first trip to co, imo. soc

I agree with Yoosin and Soc., CTG is better for you if you have little or no Spanish. I found very few people in MDE, including hotel staff and taxi drivers, spoke any English. However, in MDE, there are good driver/guides that speak English and several guys liked the setup at at the Playboy Penthouse that has Roberto to show you around or their female guides as well.

(Message edited by merlin on July 25, 2005)

Yoosin, Soc, Merlin, appreciate your tips. I guess I still got some deciding to do. I read that it's super freakin hot around this time in CTG so that might be a factor. The other thing is Merlin mentioned the guide in MDE which I'm strongly considering. I used a guide (Don) in Rio a little over 2 yrs ago when i didn't know a lick of Portuguese and his service to me was invaluable and worth every penny. When you only got 7-10 days, i'd rather not waste any of them getting lost or trying to reinvent the wheel. I feel using a guide could really help. So I guess if I go solo it will be CTG and if I decide on MDE it will be with a guide. Ok back to ponder. thanks again.

Terminator:

If yous Spanish skills are in the range of, "Una mas cerveza," and "Donde están el baño" I would recommend Cartagena for a first trip. Good place to get your feet wet (and hopefully something else). A good bet is to find a taxi driver who speaks "decent" English and stick with him. They all have cell phones so get the number and call. Caveat. You will likely pay a slight premium for his services. Regardless of what you her Colombia travel demands at least basic Spanish skills to enjoy. As a gringo you just can't stand on a street corner waving a hundred dollar bill while repeating, in a loud voice, "Whereo girlos, whereo girlos"

Remember, many do go and have a great time even with almost no language skills.

Let us know how it turns out.

LOL thanks Gator. Hopefully it won't come down to me yelling and waiving the 100 bill. I would definately be construed as a nutcase and I imagine I'd be attracting other hideous creatures from inside their woodwork and not just the girls.

I've started to study up on Spanish but I find that my brain is not cooperating with the conversion from Portuguese. I hope they can understand some Span-tuguese

I agree with others Cartagena for the first timer, especially if you don't speak any Spanish.

Hunter

gringojoe,

I was in Pereira last April and May, but can't give you much advice on the chica scene, except that there are way too many non pros throughout Colombia to even have to mess with the pro scene. I was in many parts of Colombia, spent a lot of time in the towns between Cali and Medellin, and had more non pro action than I could have dreamed up. Pereira does have some great clubs, but the city itself isn't much to look at, although there is some incredible country all around the city and many sights worth seeing if your in the area. Had a lot of fun in a town outside Pereira, Cartago, but a definite handle on Spanish is a must and a local contact or two wouldn't hurt. All in all, a great area to visit; in fact, I will probably be moving to Cali or Medellin in Nov-Jan just to master Spanish and dance the nights away. Good luck.

Happyfeet, are you moving to Colombia for the 3 months, or are you planning on moving there for a longer time frame somewhere during those 3 months.

Hunter

I have information about Bogota. You guys should come and check me out. The stuff I found and the way to do it is a lot better than what I have read on this site. I can tell you how to have trip that can be the adventure of your life for a lot less money that a lot of other types of trips. I have been to Bogota 3 times in 4 months and I have been all over that town. I can give you info on how to have trips on many different levels. From pros to just encounter women to hand out with. Trust me and write me. I am a database architect for a fortune 500 company. I just want to pass this information along.