BTW, glad to hear Millenium is good, I hear that Massari bought a share in the place and it's about to become "Cafe Addesso" (Cafe Now in Italian) with some of the star girls from his site. Did you hear anything about it?

BS

Athos,

Thanks for the tips on W and Millenium. I will definitely check them out.

Moondog

BS
I came way too early to Millenium
but feeling was young lineup guaranteed good time as demanded by manager who speaks some english. I did not want to wait till 20:00 so checked out. I would not say itīs a must but heck scratch Bahamas for sure.
SP is growing on me...My feeling is more fun can be had than in Rio. I can find girls to my liking and get what I need.
Here is another secret to SP wonderful world of sins:
Connection in the suburb of SP, itīs a 20:00 prime time as I arrived way too early at 18:00 with 25 girls, several very checkable. But at 19:30 I did not feel like waiting for the full lineup as i saw this perfect looking mulatta coming to work in mini skirt. ah I was drooling so I grabbed her. You need an id to get in so bring passport photocopy with you. The place is not as crowded as bomboa and the selection was slightly better. Fantastic session, well Larissa was a 9 naked as she is only 5ī2. I may be in trouble next time i check connection as Larissa sticked to me after session.
Was so drained and did not feel like checking a pickup place, bomboa and sushi and more palatable to me.Connection: 50R entrance, garota 180R so 230R as long as you stay away from wine glasses, very expensive at 40R. Selection is 100 deep, all with good attitude as unspoiled. Place a bit old, not run down though. They have interesting floor show with girl grabbing a guy and headed to shower. The guy got a bit of free cbj...but i thought ah shit thatīs a lot of pressure as he could not keep it up.
Bomboa was way too crowded by 23:00 but i managed to find Gigi, 19 looking 16, another great ass from Curitiba, real into sex. Another 9 in looks and 10 in performance.
Got early sleep so back to full strength today.
I did manage also to visit mp Alternativ early in the day but was disappointed by Carol while Larissa looked very enticing.
Both Bacos and Connection are opened on sat with full lineup and regular hours while also opened sun with much lesser linup up to 40 and 18:00 prime time.
The timing was not right for me as miruna is under remodeling and 2 of my escort targets were not working for different reasons but still I feel I do not have time to check every place.
But my current feeling is why go to Photo and W when you can find same quality and better attitude at Connection.

I just saw archived posts.

Check my earlier SP guide to get all the addresses.
Bomboa is in Pinheiros, their web site has a good map, rua capote valente, 222.
Cafe Foto, every taxi driver knows where it is, they must be getting commish, located in Vila Olimpia near Moema on ave Helio Pellegrinno.
Connection is in Tatuape, suburb, a good 20 min cab ride without traffic. But metro in SP gets my Kudos, they kick ass.

I am skipping Campinas as too expensive ride and hassle. I have other W and Bacos and Connection and some unfinished business with Bomboa and Adylla Porto and CelCenter today...

Athos:

Glad you found some good alternatives to W, Photo, Bahamas. Sao Paulo, as I've always told you, is HUGE - 20 MILLION people in greater SP. The scene is equally huge, something for everyone. For every rich man's W, there are dozens of middle-class businessman's Connections, Misuna, etc. And hundreds of Vila Mimosa-equivalents (stay away from those), and thousands of SW's (ditto). You can always find what you want, just have to ask around.

Enjoy!

BS

Athos,

Thanks for the report on Connections. We can hit it again later this month.

Moondog

Athos breaking trail for us once again..thanks..

Layne87
I am in a foul mood today as i fucked up on fri. Never made it to other W or Connection. Instead wound up with 2 avg sessions at celcenter and bomboa.
I am headed to Bacos and Connection today on sat and donīt care if i have to spend 100R in taxi fare.
I am letting Adylla Porto cool things off first at my hotel, she needs some tuition money.
Connection is not going to be spoiled, itīs way out in the suburb, girls are unspoiled, some very young.
Letīs put it this way, girls have to pay for their own drinks, have to pay for condoms at American Bars.
Garotas were shocked too I made it to Connection, and even some locals were proud of me to go there on my own.
I finally spent some time in Kilt area, not my cup of tea, best you can get is 7.0 and mostly hardcores, several bomboa garotas available there though seeking asian money at vagao. I even missed Cafe Photo last night, thatīs how bad it was for me.
Overall SP is great for American Bars, escorts, and some mpīs worth checking. The pickup scene is very hardcore but i like only W.

Athos,

Now you have me very curious. I've got to check out Connection and W. Thanks for the info.

Let Adylla soothe your pain, and hit the clubs again next week. You will probably have better luck.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

I really enjoyed my time with Adyla. She's a doll. I still need to submit pics and writeup on her.

Moondog
I may have just been lucky the other night at Connection as last night I got cbj with 19 loirinha from Londrina. So I interviewed girls a little more and most came back with cbj.
Selection is definitely better than Bomboa but I recommend 1 visit as too many cbjs.
So Bomboa remains my top choice for SP followed by Clinica Antares, W, Cafe Millenium, Connection, Clinica Alternativ, Cafe Photo, Romanza.
I am also down on top mps like CelCenter and Francebel, too expensive for service provided while Antares gives top rated service at 1/3 of the cost.
Rua Augusta is too sleazy for me, never made it to Love Story.
Do NOT bother with Bacos, way too far, well I got to see the other part of town, stayed 1 hour and split as selection was very avg.
Bomboa has about 200 to 250 girls, Connnection up to 200 but many had not come back from Carnanval. Maybe reason why selection was not plentiful. Girls are beautiful though, still enough choices.
Escort scene has got to be one of the best in the world.
SP is very good from mon to thur.
Today is sun...I am ready to head out of dodge and will try only escorts.
I have 18 year old loirinha Cariny Ravanelle coming in couple of hours.
Athos

Itīs raining everywhere in brasil, rio, sp, curitiba. Itīs even cold here in Curitiba.
SP has more women than Rio, but complete different flavors, southern flavor. Sessions are up and down, better sessions are complete gfe not pro like Rio but cbj is prevalent. SP is also more expensive. Go to SP only if you like the southern look (Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Santa Catarina). I like both Rio and SP so I am fucked.
Finished my SP run with escort Cariny Ravanelle, 18 year old not exactly my type but Angeline Jolie and Julia Roberts in 1 shot.
Athos

I am leaving on March 29, it will be the first time back in Brazil in 10 years. When last I was there, American ATM cards did not work. DO THEY NOW????? Please advise, someone.

3 weeks of fornication coming up........

Pwrslv:
Credit cards work, at least my visa card works. Havenīt tried the ATM card. `If your credit card or debit card is American Express, Master Card, or part of the Cirrus group, you can obtain cash in reals at the automatic tellers in the red booths marked 24 HORASī, which are located all over the city. These tellers are affiliated to a number of national and international banks, so if your card is Visa or Diners, check to see if the issuing bank is listed. Otherwise, you will only be able to withdraw cash on a card through a branch of your own bank, if there is oneī--this quote is from the INSIGHT GUIDE to Rio de Janeiro, published in 2001. Things may have improved even more since then.

You can get an exchange rate of about 3.3 at the airport (a little better rate AFTER customs than before customs, near the baggage claim). That is still a bit high, according to one infamous degenerate whoring bastard I spoke to on the plane, but we DID give them our business. Canīt remember what the ATM rate is.

Damn this rain. Yesterday and today it has been pouring. All my (vertical) sightseeing plans are shot. I guess this only leaves one (horizontal) thing, so my personal body count is high. It was perfectly sunny on Sunday in Rio (my first ever day here), so I got a nice dose of the beach scene on Copacabana beach.

Been hangin a bit with the Cafe Alcazar crowd (Don, Rich, Karl), which congregates at about 11-1230 every day, and insures that anybodyīs newbie ass will have a good time. Havenīt tossed them any dinhero for their good deeds, but I will.

Leaving Rio on Friday evening.

Yours in international whoring,
Dogster

Powerslave,
Plenty of atm available, just do it in day light morning. Sun atm may be close or run out of cash.
Some atm have 1000R limit, others 600R like Bradedesco.

Citibank I never had a problem with, except out of Reals part of the day....

Bradesco I tried a few times and I notice the X-rate was a little lower in there favor.

All other banks shot me down, Banco do brasil, hsbc, abm armo, itau etc......

CN

Thank you all, gentlemen. I will be arriving in Rio Sunday the 30th noon, and will probably stay at a cheap hotel in copacabana I found in my lonely planet book for the first day or two. Let me know if anyone wants to meet...
I will be in Rio for a week, and then rent a car and head out to who knows where.

Curitiba is not a bad place to pursue hobby but pick tues/wed/thu as many girls work only those days. After accepting the fact Iīd be doing only cows, I finally hit paydirt last night at Cafe Saharra, boate similar to Barbarella in Rio but throw away the bad attitude. 100 deep with bullpen, more than 1/2 are good looking. Selection not as good as Cafe Photo in SP but better than Bomboa, par with Barbarella in Rio. I could have easily settled down with dozen girls. Day matched my best day in SP. 2 outstanding session back to back, 1 at sauna imperial, lower end sauna compared to rio but after beijo negro, anal and bbbjtc I was happy man only to find similar treatment at saharra with meg ryan younger sister. Curitiba is not cheap (i know i must be a cheapskate). Escort scene is cheap 150R, sauna imperial is dirt cheap 110R but boates add cover, entrance and room plus girl youīre looking at 300R at every boate. Only Saharra stood out for me but Crystal, casa nova, cafe photo, metro has decent selection. BBBJ is the norm, expect hardcore pros at crystal and metro but pleasantly surprised at Saharra.

Curitiba is a cool city (lived there for 6 months) but it reminds me of seattle. Weather sucks!!! Constantly raining and cold!! Only knock I have on the P4P scene is the lack on color, if you only want the "white" brasilians, you will be in heaven. Since I prefer the Morenas and Mulattas, I was suffering in Curitiba. There wasn't a big round booty to be found anywhere! Finally broke down and moved back to Rio, so I could get my fix:-)

Thumper
I met a nice mulatta at Imperial today and saw couple of cute mulattas at Saharra. The beautiful girls are not on the program...quite a shame.

Back in Rio...damn Help is way down in quality, post carnaval blues. I did see a gorgeous mulatta paulista last night but she was offering cbj so i passed.
Solarium is real bad, but Luomo is excellent.
Porto Alegre is a beautiful city as opposed to Curitiba which is not very appealing. Both cities are a notch below SP and Rio in terms of quantity and quality. Still plenty of coeds to pursue hobby for a few days but not more.
Gruta Azul does not have any ugly girl in their lineup, quite impressive but a bit too pro. Carmen was cool with girls a bit below quality than Gruta.
GoldenAmanda saved my trip to POA, she has 20 college girls ready for room service. Amanda is very customer friendly and did her best to accomodate my needs, pretty face, young mind. I wish every agency was like this, world class.
I was a bit disappointed by girls beauty in POA, well after SP everything will be a letdown.
SP hands down has the best looking women in all Brazil.

Athos,

I am starting to lose track of your travels. It seems like you are in love with SP, and then Rio and BH? Did I get that right?

I am going to Rio in mid April, and then looking at Rio and SP in mid June, and then checking out the German FKK thing in May.

BT

Athos, when I go back down next month I'm gonna have to ask you for all the "low-down"! Even for this Brasilian "vet"! (grin)

Disfruta muito! sf4dfish

BT
No I am in lust for pretty girls.
Rio and SP both offer that but with different positives and negatives.
Wow I was impressed last night by 4x4, amazing babes, ended with iniciante loirinha, just turned 19 last Sat.
65 is nowhere near 4x4 quality, but remember to register at front desk as every fourth trip to 65 they give free entrance. Well of course I did not know about it so hosed on that one.

Tried Centaurus last night. I am among hombres who dislike the place. Selection is average at best, nowhere near 4x4, imho. At least uglies have disappeared and garotas were less aggressive but still a bit too aloof.
Help is dead by now, buyers market. Opening quote is always $100 then R$300. I canīt stop but laugh.
Looks like 4x4 and Luomo are top, then Monte Carlo and 65, then bottom barrel is Solarium and Centaurus.
May stop by antigo tomorrow but best in rio is the pastry shop Columbo in Centro. Expensive but worth it.

Your there now?

Athos,
I will be in Rio tomorrow morning. If you are still around I would like to join you for a drink or a terma run and discuss our mutual interests. I will be checking my mail. Let me know if it is convenient.

Athos,

Seems like we have different tastes cause I was there last week and spent at least 4 days at Centaurus. I thought the selections were a lot better than L'uomo, 4X4, termas 65 and MC. Dongringo and Keemo seem to like the place.

I was also able to talk them into waving the tourist fee (R$20)for me and other guys that were with me. I tipped the lady at the front desk,R$5, for her help. The other times that I went back..she just handed me and the other guys the keys and told us to pay after we finished. One time I didn't have a session and the front desk only charge me for entry fee and the drinks. OOPS..crap I hope the management does not see this post and get the front desk lady in trouble.

Dino & Athos
I found Centauras to be incredible. The selection, the attitudes of the girls, the performance in the rooms - everything was top drawer.
I agree that 4x4 is good as well, and regret that he wife works there so I couldn't enjoy the buffet there as well.

Athos perhaps we'll have a chance to hook up on a future trip.

Dino thanks for all of your help at Centauras. I appreciate it.

Ahhhhhhh Centaurus.....

Hey MitchC,

Great pictures of that gal from Centaurus! Surprised that you could breakaway from your sweetheart to go with a different garota.

Can't wait to go back again.

BT

Dongringo,

Glad to be able to help out a fellow monger. I must say you have good taste in women at Centaurus.

Dino
I am very picky...While I agree Centaurus lineup is solid with very few ugly ones and several fat ones, the best looking ones are in the 6 to 7 range except for Monique who is a stunner.
Girls were not as pushy and bullpen was in display 50 to 60 deep.
4x4 has many unattractive ones but the best looking ones are sharp looking. Luomo always has party atmosphere. It all depends on taste, I am always seeking iniciante, when i cannot find one I look for safada which 4x4 has plenty of.
I am surprised I donīt remember hearing about this Paula at 4x4. She was celebrating her bday as well as Lorraine, Madonna and other gal. Since only 2 of them were attractive, I did a dupla to remember. Doggie position fucking Lorraine who has the nicest ass, Paula was giving me beijo negro. Paula then went on top, after 30 secs, enough of this, she grabs my dick and put it in her ass without any ky and rams it in, holy shit. Final shot was Paula bbbj while Lorraine licking balls. I shot in her mouth but some of it went through her nose, she had to blow her nose for a while. They call me safado no way, Paula is incredible, maybe an 8.0 in looks with perfect skin and tits, bit older but glad I got to meet her.
After session, my new friend iniciante Michely grabs me and would rather stick to me than look for a hook. I feel a little bad, she thinks I am her bf.

I changed my mind, I think Carioca metro station is closer than station Uruguayana to hit 65/4x4 as located right by ave Branco.
Exit Carioca, and turn right (there is a ave Branco exit sign). Make a left on branco, rosario will be 4 blocks down, make a right and youīre in.
Metro is very convenient, made the mistake of cabbing last night going back to Copa, stuck in traffic. Metro train is a bit slow like 1/2 the speed of SP.
Help selection is bad and it is buyerīs market but several terma girls from MC and 4x4 are working the beat so easy picking.
Barbarella is very average making Cafe Photo and Gruta Azul get notorious for best lineup in the land. Still only 10 on this trip was at 65, Milena but she has pro attitude.

I went to Solarium 2 nights and the selection was good,plus there is a good tex-mex restaurant Cozumel right across the street from Solarium,but the Termas is a little small in the Boite though.

Dumbfounded, last night Help was back to hopping with some beauties coming from out of the woodwork to pay the rent.
One Debora was so cute, theatre actress during the week...too bad I had nothing left in the tank. Maybe the most beautiful girls at Help I have seen from entire trip.
I keep wanting to do that mulatta from SP but every night some black dude grabs her before I get any chance.

Athos, what is the mulattas name?

Thumper
Elisa (Elisandra) is her name, actually real name. Bad news, she works at Cafe Photo but I learnt that when we were already in the room. Trophy fuck, good intercourse but nothing else. At least she called me putanheiro when she realized I knew every place in SP.
Saw the most beautiful girl on this trip outside Help, mulatta with perfect body and face to match. Was drooling, only time I saw her.
Help had the best looking girls (not in percentage, raw numbers) ahead of Cafe Photo in SP and Gruta Azul in POA but hit and run is the norm.

Ive heard of clubs in Rio that allow orgies, is this true? if there is a club with Garotas that have orgies? And if the dont why dont I hear about someone getting one going? I will be there from may27 to june4 anyone know whats up let it be known

Solarium has a swingers night. Do not know if garotas are there. You could probably find someone at Help to go with you.

Lots of other swinger places also.

Good luck.

CP

You can do orgies in termas, like 2 guys and 3 girls? Is that what you call an orgy but terma has limited space in suite? You can organize one in a love motel and have girls from escort agencies.
If money is not a problem, you can go to Sao Paulo, W offers parties but each garota will cost you R$600. Party lasts all afternoon. Talk to Beto the manager to arrange festa.
Best bet is to get a love motel for lunch and invite a bunch of terma girls.

the whole point is so you dont have to pay for it but since Im only coming to Rio one time for sex travel, Im talking about a few guys going in on a topnotch suite where management will not interfere and with some game, getting about 10 garotas at 100 reais(it can be done) hmm lets see between four guys a top notch suite and 10 garotas should be only about uhh 1500 reais which in U.S. is max 200 per guy, I hope there are guys on here that can think on that level, because it would be an experience of a lifetime, beautiful lorenas, morenas, nubias, mullatas, in one room all having sex. it can be done.
endoftheroadex aka Bo In Rio May27 to june4

If you can pull this off, let me know, I will be the first to buy you a beer. I never heard of 1 garota who would be willing to fuck multiple guys for only 100R, nevermind 10 of them!!!

I only have the idea, I dont know Rio but I do know the game, If these girls are entertained with alchohol and what ever else when you throw a fiesta aka orgy they will play. for starters say three guys know three extremely hot girls that pretty much will listen to them...um be on the programma... then instead of asking for sex.ask them to come to a sex party..if a few good looking guys are together this will work because Rio or not women do not always demand money for sex even if they are pros if you offer them a good time they will come out of curiosity sexual attraction is already established

REPORTING BACK TO WORK AT THE OFFICE IN RIO (MAY 16) WITH A NEWBIE FRIEND. WHAT CAN A SECOND TIME MONGER LOOK FORWARD TO DURING THIS SEASON? HOWS THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND RATIO AND RATES? MY LAST VISIT WAS AUG.02.
DADDIO

By Thumper on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 02:21 pm:

If you can pull this off, let me know, I will be the first to buy you a beer. I never heard of 1 garota who would be willing to fuck multiple guys for only 100R, nevermind 10 of them!!!
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I pull this off regularly, on a smaller basis. 2-4 guys, same number of girls. This is the essence of my notorious festinhas.

Festinhas are offered by all agencies.

n guys get n girls, each one pays his girl. All girls fuck all n guys.

This is standard procedure for most agencies, though some details need to be discussed. If you get many girls, you even get a discount, pay 4 take 5 is very common. All girls MUST come from same agency (or sister agencies like karlamodels and scorthow)

Saves you a bundle!!!! Karlamodels and scortshow ask for an additional 50, (negotiable down to R$ 30) fee per girl for unlimited switching! Most agencies charge no extra fee.

Recently we had 4 girls from scortshow. Several of them did anal with up to 3 of us! Even Brazilians were surprised, most girls would not do multiple anal in festinhas.

I gladly help organize festinhas, especially if I can join in! I regularly run 2-3, rarely 4 couple festinhas in my apartment, whenever opportunity arises.

I post my email because I rarely read the posts here, so you better contact me directly. email me 1234567 at innocent dot com

Let me get this straight. If you have 4 men and 4 women, for only 130R, each girl is expected to fuck all 4 men in a 2 hour period?

Brazil Specialist
ive seen the models bodies on Karlamodels website are you sure that the models you see on the website are the girls that show up! because I would be highly dissappointed if those girls didnt show, and I got some nasty imitation, Hey Thumper you in Rio May 26 - June 4, if so why not join in, I know for sure I will be at a festa

>Let me get this straight. If you have 4 men and 4 women, for only 130R, each girl is expected to fuck all 4 men in a 2 hour period?

Yes. Absolutely. If you are lucky, in the ass too. At least each girl has to get ass-fucked once by a guy that is not too endowed. All girls at these agencies are complete by agency order (some of them, like Nicole, are notorious for doing anything to evade that requirement)

Some girls at some agencies also tend to evade fucking too many guys. And sometimes girls get angry if one has to fuck 5 guys and another one only one. This is why the R$ 30 -50 comes in handy. The one that fucks only one guy will not get the extra money. I never pay that tip money in advance.

thumper, are you the same as a thumper on the TSM board? probably not, because I have been posting there about festinhas for years.


Karlamodels girls look like they look on the photo. The photographer is very good, I think he is from the sex magazine Ele Ela, maybe they pull in the belly, remove a few tatoos, but otherwise it is very clearly the same girl. Their newbies also are often very nice.

Sending girls back is always a bit embarrassing, so try to do a good choice in the first place. If you dont mind the work, pick the girls up yourself (downstairs at the agency), so you can send them back and exchange them easily

Wow, that is amazing! For a lousy extra 30R a girl might have to fuck 4 extra guys, unbelieveable! I will be in Rio May 23rd to June 5th, can't wait, its been 3 months!