Hey Layne - a Porn Star in T65? Sounds like you're holding out on us. at last report, you said T65 sucks.

The Artist, who's overpaying so far? Why are you keep dragging this subject on? As one of the plank owners of discovering Rio, you should know we are all responsible world class travellers here. Everyone is outhere for his own and damn sure knows what he's doing. There is absolutely no need to beat the dead horse. I don't think ever saw Athos reported paying Eliana her asking price of $150usd for her short time request.

And may be the gals who called the guys in the "Loser's Row" are the 2/3 who didn't get picked and now desperated while the other 1/3 hotties were sitting with those "Loser's Row" guys. C'on man, people who enjoy finer things in life do exist on this earth. That doesn't mean they overpaid everything.

Artist--I give you R50/night for your apt!!!

you son of a...

No way to talk to "line"...did I outbid ya??

Artist--- Will have to respectfully disagree. The girls at help wouldn`t move off $100US, and that wasn`t just me, it was every one i talked with including a Rio resident who was with a friend, girls walked away before excepting less. Price does affect performance, a Barbarela garota who i got from $200US down to $100US for a short time was the only garota who rush me once in the room and went into the bathroom to clean up and leave before i was finished but luckily i persuaded her to stay long enough to finish. All the garotas that i paid their asking price took their time and treated me like a King.

Most garotas will accept 200R, on the other end of the scale dogs or less attractive ones will take 100R for all night. Sorry I can't report on 100R all nighter as not my cup of tea. I can find an ugly one any time I am in SoCal.
Least but not last some garotas will want to go for free at Barbarella on repeat but will grudgingly accept the money. How "pay me what you want" or "no need to pay" fit Barbarella? Just treat ladies right and give them orgasmo and you'll have a good time in Rio.
Forget the price issue as terma prices are fixed and stick to your budget for other garotas.

Athos--- Most garotas will accept 200R, i didn`t find that on my trip, it was 100US or the highway unless you waited untill 4am or later. There were garotas asking 150US and 200US and they were not moving off that price, and they would be taken out almost every night. One garota i really wanted ask 200US and would not go below 175US needless to say i passed. I started thinking maybe i was doing something wrong so i started talking with other guys and they told the same story.

By the way Athos, brought back alot of memories reading your posts, couldn`t wait to get home every night to see how you were doing. What is the ratio of guys to garotas this trip and last trip? Are prices better this trip because of low season ?

Your prices are going to vary drastically depending if the girl takes a liking to you or not. It is really difficult for the girl to take a liking to you if you don't speak any Portuguese (or the girl/guy share some common language skills). On my first couple of trips, I'd get alot of sky high offers because I didn't speak a word of Portuguese so my conversations with the girls when something like "Hi, you want to go my hotel, ok. how much?" And the girls would quote the largest number that they had ever heard of to get rid of me. My amigo Athos has done a great job of listening to his Pimsleur tapes so he is able to converse rather well. Those pimsleur tapes are damn expensive but a couple of over priced sessions will pay for them

Barbarella is not at its best garota wise right now. I go there to relax so garotas have to convince me that I need to bone them. Last nov, i did not speak Portuguese and was in a candy store.
I cannot wait to come back and check the nov lineup again as I'd rather be in a candy store.
I think for price it could be the low season as not many garotas, always in the 80's with not many hombres. 1/3 of ladies get picked fairly quickly then all the other ones get desperate. I believe you can get even the middle tier for 150R but not my cup of tea. One garota started crying when she made a long pitch for herself the other night, that was one guaranteed good fuck.
Cover charge and take out are expensive but drinks are not, my honey kept drinking but only a few reals so treat ladies right, they are human beings.
I just can't believe the feedback I am getting from the garotas, it's like they have never seen an asian american.
I am very surprised at fixed 150/200$ quote as negotiating is normal for cariocas. No garota will get that now. After being pampered at termas, Barb has pretty face and nice bodies but have not seen perfect butt so far in there. Thais did have a fantastic butt but she is leaving to Geneva on wed.

Fooledagain1- I found much of what you saw there...a few of the girls who were sweet but not quite on the top tier were R200 and below...Athos must be better looking than us!

Youngtom-- I hear what you are saying, but that wasn`t the case, these girls were all over me, they just wouldn`t drop their price. I speak some portugese but all most every garota a talk with spoke fairly good english so laguage was never a problem. The garoatas i wanted would make lots of heavy duty eye contact and once i approach were all over me and wanted my bussiness. The garota i really wanted ask 200US then drop to 175US but no lower, when i left, her and her friend followed me and stood 5ft. away staring at me and if i moved, they moved. If we passed each other she was all over me saying she would show me a real good time and give me a nice massage, she definetly wanted my bussiness but wasn`t droping her price. Would have a drink with other garotas and hit the dance floor and they would be all over me, grinding on me better than some lap dances i`ve had and that`s no kidding, but they ask 150US and will not drop. When i went back the next night these garotas remmebered me, and again, heavy eye contact and following me around and walking by brushing up against me but no way were they dropping their price. I don`t get it, i see the prices others are throwing around, there is no way you could get the garotas i wanted for those prices. At help it was 1to1 ratio so maybe it just happened to be a busy time for the garotas and they didn`t feel a need to go lower. Even a Rio resident that was with an American i met, said expect to pay 100US at Help for anything worth while.

Layne- Better looking and better with the tongue

Foolagained - it sounds like your doing all the right stuff. Obviously a judgement call. I'm not up on pricing at Barbarella. I'd also agree that one will pay about 200reais or so for the best lookers at Help. I won't even bother to negotiate with girls if they insist on negotiating in dollars & I just counter with polite 200 reais take it or leave it offer.

I think Help or Barb, you have to be seen so all the garotas know you. It´s supply and demand, dozen garotas were begging to go with me last night. Any garota who promises a good time is one to cross off your list. Go for garota who show passion and is willing to kiss you in dark corner.
I fucked up last night going terma whoring at Luomo which was pretty lame so got my first avg terma session while Michele at Barb was all over me, ok body but what a face, model face, 23 1 kid. Layne87 how about a report on her?
Yes your tongue is your way to a woman´s heart in Rio.
Kate mentioned she´d miss me (yeah right) so I told her she would miss my tongue. BTW an americana wanted to take her out so Kate told me she did not want to go with her so would give her a quote of 200$.

Here is the current status of Rio night action, I´ll have a complete trip report asap with photos.

Best is termas as number of garotas is same as last nov, by order of preference:
1. Solarium 1/2 a dozen to 10 garotas should pique your curiosity, no 10. I feel very fortunate to have played with Vanessa and Barbi, both 9.0 in looks, 10 on a good day. 100% satisfaction.
2. Centaurus, good lineup easily a dozen garotas could make my day. Was fortunate to play with Monica 10 in looks. Yes a bit expensive but 100% bbbj and dfk from 3 different garotas. Very few 10, 2 or 3 at most.
3. Luomo was up and down, solid performances from Karen, Camila (gone to Germany for now) and Monica. Lineup was up and down.
4. Monte Carlo with 4 to 5 pretty garotas then it´s downwhill skiing, but for me the best Juliana, my pet of the month. Who knows where she´ll be six months from now.
5. Centro termas, 65 and 4X4, one time stop for me as out of pack of garotas you should be able to find one in the 8.0 range in looks that fits your tastebud.
6. Aeroporto, very weak lineup but famous twins work there. I liked only 1 or 2 garotas there.
7. Lameduck Rio Antigo, what a shame as my best terma last nov trip. Still 1 or 2 garotas worth checking.

Escort agencies, tough procedure as no face shot on the net and going through seeing book is a hassle.
Cross off FetichOnline and Alta Potencia as bait and switch not even close. Got another good service from companygirl, Ana Paula looked like advertised. I had good service from TopLiner, SexyLoren in my last nov trip.

Beach action and Meia Pataca, very weak, mediocre talent, nothing for me.

Help, very weak, maybe 1/2 dozen cuties with so so to bad attitude. Good place to go dancing, bring a date.

Barbarella, average, 50 to 80 garotas on any given night, dozen beautiful ones could make the highlight reel but expect short time and no 10. Lots of piranhas, best is to be patient and let the good ones chase you as the bad ones will quit real fast.
Franks so weak, only 2 worth checking Katia and Sabrina, Sabrina does not like her job you can tell.
LaCiciolina, very weak, maybe only one worth looking at, loira Karina is a sweet one.

Don´t know what´s up with me, last night at Help a pretty loira maded a move on me and she started crying when I turned her down. That´s the third one crying on me this trip.

Never found garotas on the program at the mall but best place to see real brazilian beauty. Supposedly check local paper as garotas advertise where they look for hooks at the mall.
Many garotas will check you out including most sales clerks. Now I know why Americanas are called bitches.

Learning Portuguese is not a must but indeed it is if you want to have fun at Help or Barbarella.

Finally they love americans so treat them right, use your tongue and you´ll be rewarded.

Athos- Michele..will look her up but you have it reversed if if is the same one I did in april...10 body..7 face...no probably not since we are close on our tastes...

Layne87
Different Michele as this one is about 5'5, model face, perfect teeth and perfect mouth, looks younger than her 23, dark blonde with curly hair.

Now I feel really sick being back home, all the garotas I turn down at Barbarella, I want to do them now. But I guess it comes with the territory, sex vacation and so few cumshots to spare.

Athos--if she is this beautiful I am there no problem..is she a dance girl...was it that she was asking too much or not enough time to add her to your list...give me what you got and I will pursue and give you the feedback ..thanks bunch...I will have to drag Dood in there or pay his way in...

Athos-- I can definetly relate to how you feel. I was kicking myself in the ass a thousand times for passing on some garotas, now it`s my mission to get back and make up for it. But anyway, how was the weather, need long sleave shirts at night or a light jacket?

The weather changed dramatically, well Rio style as SoCal seemed cool today.
First week was too hot and muggy but second week after some rain, not as hot so on sunny days, perfect weather but sunset at 5:30 PM.
Don't start wearing jeans until terma hopping.
Short or long sleeves are fine. Jacket only if it rains. You can sleep without AC and windows closed now.
Garotas are cold so warm them up...

Michele is not a dancer, she likes to stand on any aisle.
Look also for a gorgeous morena, not perfect teeth, 5'5. There is also this little blonde not as good looking but seemed like the real deal. There is this morena Patricia, a bit older at 24, very nice person with great hourglass. How can I turn all these ladies down? Probably the termas bbbj did that to me.

Like I mentioned earlier, Barb is 50R, 50R bar fine. So that's total of four drinks if you take a garota out. Count as these garotas love to drink, not sure if you could call them alcoholics.
They also love to eat so if vibes is right, buy them dinner before heading to your hotel room. Some love to dance and will go to Help with you too.

Athos,
Why no pictures? Your opinions are very strong,but it is difficult for the rest of us to judge how they fit with our own standards without some visuals.I for one would really like to see your idea of a 10 or an 8. The reports are great but one picture is worth a thousand words. Some of your descriptions are very visual but I have my own ideas of what constitutes an "hourglass" figure.Come on...cough up some photos.

The Artist
Complete trip report coming soon...
I have to admit to poverty or being low tech as I used a regular point and shoot camera.
I believe over 100 pictures coming your way soon on this site.
The only 10's were my dream girl Juliana at monte Carlo and morena Monica at Centaurus, plus add popular Camila at Luomo.
Barb I got only 8's Kate, Thais, Paloma, Dayane still gets a 9 though.
Other 9's include Vanessa and Barbi at Solarium.
My worst in looks was a 7 at Solarium, and Help.
Everyone uses their own scale but I doubt my 10's would get at worse an 8 on anyone scale.

Athos,
looking forward to your report and pictures

My report won't be as good as my last trip as i did not make any connection so it will look more like a terma exploration. But photos should be better and more varied.

Athos,
I am only going to 3 termas..which ones would you suggest..best to last and why. I appreciate your opinion.

Go to Solarium, Luomo and Centaurus.
Both Solarium and Luomo are friendly with a few good looking ones.
Centaurus is expensive but you could maybe find a nice looking garota easier there.
If Centaurus is too expensive, go to Monte Carlo.
I usually reward any garota who is willing to make out with me at least 30 min to hour suite. If 15 min making out range, I always give them 40 min cabin.

16 of 17 terma garotas I tried got between 8 to 10 in performance so you cannot go wrong with most mulheres in termas. All included dfk, bbbj and clean pussy.

17 termas??? damn, that's a city full of whores. With the avg of 40 garotas/terma, that's a total of almost 700garotas on any given day. Take the top 10%, you still need the whole month to flavor them all. And then Help and Barbarella...woooohoooo...Rio is the major league and a paradise.

Sorry SB, I meant I tried 17 garotas at termas, out of 8 termas.

There are no 3 best termas to hit. Right now there are about 7. Everyone who has been to all of them recently will give you a different answer on their favorites. My personal choices are Solarium, 4x4 and Termas 65. Lumos & MC also seem to have pretty good talent right now as well. And even if you dedicate your week to finding the best termas, you will draw a different set of conclusions than any of us recommend. Rio Antigo sounds slow right now (so skip that); skip Centarus. Try 4z4 and Termas 65 if you don't like what you see then walk out and go to another termas.

When Athos & I return to Rio in Nov, I'm going to educate my buddy on 4x4 and Termas 65. This trip he has seen the light that the termas are the best of daytime activity in Rio and on the next trip, we will do alot more investigation into the meaning of life. Of course, in November 4x4 and Termas might not be so hot anymore.

Youngtom,
Well put. A cleareyed view on the Terma scene. I tend to agree with you on 4x4 and 65. 4x4 has the largest selection and there are always some good choices. 65 was my surprise pick this last trip.The upcoming installments of my Rio TripReport will deal with these spots and include pictures. These should be posted sometime next week.
Athos, Look forward to seeing those pics, but come on...no one who hangs out in Centaurus or Barbarella has any business using poverty as an excuse. Get the digital camera buddy.

Everybody will have different opinions on termas so it was only my preference.
One thing I did not like at 4X4, garotas skip the making out part. It's hello and vamos.
Guys will like termas where they meet the right garota. The girl of my dream currently resides at Monte Carlo but not enough selection to make it in my top 3.
Digital camera? I was thinking miniature camcorder.

Miniature camcorder is a great idea. Dood has an excellent one. You might want to ask his advice when you buy.

recently I visited Barbarellas. My opinion was not high. a clip joint. the girls were okay looking but not real affectionate. you could tell they thought alot of themselves and the price. four of us came to this same conclusion. one guy drug one out for three days but paid her $400R per day. makes it tough when other guys are raising the prices at this place. probably would not go there again. Termas, Termas, Termas.

Athos- we are the only hold outs here!!??

That's cool by me as I like the whole place for myself.

But I agree with Pleebo, the terma experience is very hard to beat and to boot at such low cost.

Yes - but at Barbarellas, you can have the lady back at your hotel room for a long time. Forty five minutes isn't enough with some of these pretty ladies. If you take time into consideration doing your calculation, Barbarellas is better value. I really enjoy the two ladies I met from Barbarellas.

Of course you can also asked the ladies from the Termas come visit you at your hotel too.

Yes I finally made it to barbarellas..dragged Dood by the hair to go with me...had to buy him dinner at Mcdonalds to get him to relent...

He falls in love within 3 minutes of being inside with the most sweetest barbi doll smiling garota we have seen for the trip..I was ready to arm wrestle him for her after sitting with her for 30 minutes...he can tell the rest if he desires...just had to make sure that even though I did not convert him he did have a great time in there...

What`s her name ? Any pics. ?

Layne87,

Aside from Dood's choice, did you find anyone else to your liking? Hoping you found a winner like I found that night.

BT

BT- yes it took me awhile because I really like dood's choice and he was doing some major blocking to keep me away while he decided.Also hooked alan up with the queen because he speaks no portuguese..met a pro who was very good and smart...has 10 year visa to US and makes the most of it when she comes over here...complete pro making it clear what she was going to do and for how much and guaranteed her services...paid her up front like she wanted so she could put her mind at ease and the pro attitude went out the window and she became a sweetheart and a major winner...spoke 5 languages, owns 2 houses and has money in the bank knowing her beauty will only last so long...very interesting girl...no I did not ask her to Tenn on her next visit...she makes $1000/night here...and she was not as beautiful as the one you found..believe me I was looking hard for yours...dang it...

Fooledagain--I will let Dood come on line to see if he will give up the pics he took of her...He is leaving Rio tonight I believe ...she was just so darn sweet and that smile while she danced had both of us mesmorized...

I sure hope that Alan found what he was looking for! Dang, $1000/night. I had heard from someone that once they leave Barbarella that they won't let them back in that night. If it is, how can she make that much dough each night?

BT

PS - I can't wait until Hombre puts up the video of Paula.

in USA BT...

I'll send in the pics from this trip as soon as all the pics from my LAST trip get posted.

...obviously there's no hurry

gentlemen,
is the queen you speak of named IRENE. she was introduced to me on the beach. she is quite attractive, speaks almost perfect english, and currently has braces. story is she married a continental pilot for 5 months, left him, and took 150k for the effort. drives a lexus around town. all the gringos that live in rio know her, and respect her. she apparently rarely goes with guys, just ones she chooses.

Dood, just finished your last set.

I still have lots more from TheArtist and dArtagnan coming soon.

I don't know the queen but I'm sure wouldn't think too highly of her if she stole $150 K from me