Since there are two bars in 4x4 now, I guess we need to start specifying which one we're reporting on. I assume the girls rotate between them but maybe not?

With two hunting grounds to feed on, someone in the VIP area could be wasting time while the hot bundas are all in the regular bar, or maybe even down in Whiskeyria (sp).

No, the girls are free to move between the bars. It does make finding your favorita a little more complicated, but when I was looking for someone in particular, I just asked the front desk to track her down for me and they did. Most of the garotas seem to stay downstairs until a guy invites them upstairs.

Today 4x4 was virtually a man-free zone prior to 5 pm. My observation of the garotas there is that they are somewhat more reserved now than before. When negotiating the guantlet from one end of the boite to the other to get a beer, noone grabbed my ass! In several trips, that has never happened.

Selection is still pretty good. Lots of little spinners there.

With the new VIP lounge, my preference is to hit the lower boite upon arrival, make your selection, session, then retire to the VIP lounge for an appetizer and drink with the guys before striking out for the next terma. This beats trying to relax in the boite after 5pm when the music is cranked up and the Brazilians descend upon the place.

Several Centaurus garotas roam 4x4 these days including pretty morena clara Anita. A loirinha Saffira, 3 weeks on the program, found me. She was great, classic beauty with wide ass maybe 7 in looks.

I have saudade for the 4x4 of 2 or 3 years ago, when it had 75-100+ women every night. I do not exaggerate. It also had more guys. Now, I think there are less than 50 women, and the number of guys is significantly lower too (but that isn't a bad thing, except there seems to be a vicious cycle -- e.g. Rio Antigo -- or chicken and egg problem regarding which leads to which: fewer women leads to fewer guys or fewer guys leads to fewer women).

75+ women has been my experience at 4X each of my visits in the last month and a half...

Today there was a notable abscence of available stunners at 4x4. The boite was PACKED with brazilieros at 6pm too. Sighhhh.

That said, a spinner by the name of Nycole showed me a great time today. Without prompting, she finished my session with with a standing BBBJ while positioning herself beneath me, sprawled out across the bed. Before I knew what was happening, she had moved to a beijo negro while still manually cranking my shaft. With her other hand flicking the gristle, I became so disoriented that I blew a load all over her torso.

Strangely, I fear that Athos may have contributed to her learning curve...

(Message edited by GringasNoMas on October 22, 2003)

yep to be known throughout brasil for this he will always be famous..huh...a true kodak moment..I think he quoted on one of his reports..18 yr old XXX smiling at me while beijo negroing...a true perv..

2-3 years ago, 75-100+ was my imprecise count. Management touted 150 -- though I think it probably was closer to 125 on a good day.

To continue to reminisce, believe it or not rio antigo was very good 2-3 years ago. It had two or three times the number of women it does now, and the boite was packed by 5PM with women and guys. And the women were as good as they were anywhere. I had one of my rare 9s here. 19 year old, tall, shapely, gorgeous legs and beautitful face. Total GFE in the chama. One of my regrets is that I passed on her the next day, because there were so many others I wanted to do. Of course, she didn't last there. Haven't seen her since anywhere. Could have been a model -- could BE a model..

To finish a thought: Rio Antigo has been on a precipitous decline the past 20 months. Over a four month period it went from great to average to bad, and it never bounced back. Termas have their ups and downs. But at Rio Antigo it has been on a continuous decline for the past year and a half. I've never been able to ascertain what happened to this place. 4x4 has been on a much slower decline the past year, but it's been noticeable. I hope 4x4 isn't on a Rio Antigo-type decline.

Over the same period, Monte Carlo and L'Uomo have had their up and down periods. Right now, MC is at its best over the last 3 years. L'Uomo is at a high ebb right now too, but this place can head south the next month but bounce right back in a another month or two.

As others have mentioned, Aeroporto used to be at the top of the termas. It had already fallen from its Olympian status by the time I first put on its robe. After having leveled off, this place has had its ups and downs, but they aren't very steep. This place is a matter of taste. If you don't like this place, you don't like this place, and you never will like this place.

I assume a beijo negro is the same as The Rusty Trombone?

How about terma 65? What is the head count? Big as 4X4 or small outfit as Luomos?

I think there all hit or miss. I been to 4X4 when it's about 100 girls and I'm still searching after an hour(this is pretty bad)
MC has been good the last four times I been.

CN

65 has 80 garotas in their lineup but of course on any given day, don't expect the full lineup.
4x4 under 200, Solarium 60, MC 100, Centaurus 80. Luomo lot less.
I don't use beijo negro with the garotas as not everyone seems to understand. I use beijar o meu cuzinho.
I think you guys are too difficult, terma garotas are bit too old to find stunners so settle down for terrific providers instead.
Best looking girl is Milena at 65 but she is a trophy, playmate material but lazy at work.

On a practical level, I do settle for the better providers. Stunners have better places to work or things to do than to work in a termas. It's when you see the same women over and over without anything new, promising or interesting that gets me down. Especially, if the service of the women you keep seeing over and over isn't anything especial.

Athos: Are you back in the EUA? What dates were you in Rio? We may have crossed paths, if not swords.

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I agree with you, repeating kinda sucks and takes away the excitement. I was in Oct in Rio and SP. Rio Blues were even worse this time around.

4x4 has same talent line up as in sept but still solid...

any pigtails in your sights? bastard?!? if so... tell her I still love her

Photo: Wifey - Termas 4x4

MP3 player firmly planted on bedside table.

MP-3 sitting on top of a primo box of Cubans as well!

Garota ain't bad either.......

only you guys notice the finer details ..I cant get past the ass..and yes the pigtails were waggin quite nicely...thanks...

Arrived Thursday and it was a Federal Holiday. Went straight to 4X4 and it was closed. I almost started to cry.

I hit it yesterday though. It was pretty crowded down in the main bar, but nothing really unusual for a Friday afternoon. They need to do something to liven up the VIP area because no one is every in there.

talent level in here is about normal.not too many new faces so all of us just go with the usual ex wife of DG..thanks man she sends her love!!

I was quoted at this place by the little asian gal at the counter that a dupla would cost me $R400 for the girls only ($R200 each) Plus room and entrance.

CN

Sure I miss your girl Layne... we all do actually

Photo: Other Girl
But at least you can still have mine.
I hate you.
Sincerely yours,
DG

Uhh..Layne, actually not all of us did hit DG's ex as I did not. Although she looks much more attractive now than before with the new hair color and style. I do agree that the talents at 4X4 was not too bad and I did see some new faces in the mix.

thanks DG..I still love ya man...and Dfender..yes as always this place employees so many girls that there are thankfully some new faces in the crowd..didnt mean to sound off on the place as I did find a new one in here also that was quite fun...its probably still my favorite place as I go here more than all the others..

You guys need to learn to stick with the "Tried and True". You might have a lot more fun then.

Look how much fun Layne87 is having.

OH

Photo: Ex Wifey

Yes OtroH
Tried and true is good

But don't you just KNOW that Layne is missing his tried and true favorita? You can hear it in everything he's writing. The poor bastard. But then I suppose we can sympathize, as she does look hotter'n hell.

DG:

She is not a true blond. Just a fake. Of course most of us would not kick her out of bed. However, she is misrepresenting herself.

OH

The monger who took Rebecca off the program was staying at my hotel. She looks hotter than the picture posted above.

Anyway, some more bad news. I had a conversation with Taiza's cousin, Tamara who also works at 4X4, and it turns out that she is getting married. She is off the program and will not return.

Getting married does not equal getting off the program. Dont make that quantum leap....

Right, one 18-year old cutie I had (watch for photos of Bianca in an upcoming chapter of my trip report) told me she had to get home, her husband was waiting for her. I didn't ask whether he knew.

A few gals at 4x4 told me they were married, and yes, the husbands knew.

I bumped into Taiza, a couple of nights in Help. For some reason, she looks better in 4X4 or she's getting to old and beaten.
Maybe she is getting married, but you'll catch her in Help four days out of the week.

I was told that Taiza was working in Madrid during my trip in Nov. and I still have yet to meet her. Any info on her status? I have to do her-just 'cause I love her pics. I return next month and you've given me another "to do" project.

I have to concur with ceenotes. When I first saw Taiza at 4x4 I thought she was hot, but then I saw her at Alcazar the next morning. She looked horrid at 11am with no makeup and drinking a skol.

And I thought Don looked rough after a long nite.

I'm generally not concerned with how many dicks a garota has taken in her various orifaces over the years, but in Taiza's case, it must be hard to not ask yourself that very question. From recent reports on her, it sounds like she seriously needs to hang the bikini up and retire from the program, the sooner the better.

I did her on my first trip when she was temporarily retired. I had no idea she was a "legend". I saw her in 4X4 a couple of times after that trip and the make-up was too much. Does she take a towel and wipe all of that off her face before sessioning at the terma, or do you come out looking like Bozo the Clown?

A, weren't you the one who told me that she had the loosest pussy you've ever been in? Man, one of the former-Soviet girls I did in Tel Aviv was the same way - a medium-sized jackhammer wouldn't have hit all sides of that hole

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Hi friends, please can you tell me about closing days of 4por4 during carnaval. Do they reopen on wednesday 25 or when?

can anyone give the latest on the quality of girls at 4 by 4?

it blew three weeks ago. it was my worst visit there ever.

Depends on who, specifically, you session with. I sessioned with 5 different garotas there about 4 weeks ago, and every session was great. The overall selection wasn't the best I've seen, but since my goal was not to fuck each and every girl there, I found that there was an adequate number of beauties to keep me happy.

Overall, I have had my worst sessions at 4X4. Other than some pervert's (currently with swollen nuts) ex-wife, there have only been one or two (out of at least 10) that I wanted a second time. Given that fact, I wonder why I keep returning so often. I'm like Pavlovian dog.

in january i thought the quality was way down. as i wrote in my report, there wasn't anyone i really wanted to session with from about 2p-5p. when i was leaving, i saw two hotties that i would have jumped on in a heart beat - don't know where they were earlier, likely they arrived late.

The hotties are often upstairs, sessioning with the earlybirds who got the worms (sorry, bad choice of phrases).

Quality was not that great in January for 4 X 4. Early or late shift the garotas were not there compared to my other trip.

Aldaron, sorry abou the bad session, I feel guilty because I helped you pick her out.

However, I made it up to you bigtime!

Yes you did. That tale is coming soon.

(Message edited by aldaron on February 21, 2004)

where ohh where are you tonight..why did you leave me here all alone...I searched the world over and thought I found true love..you met another and f!?# you were gone...

sad how one superstar's retirement can bring a terma down...

and thanks DG for not taking lil pumpkin also..