Archive 03

ClubHombre.com: South America: Brazil: Rio de Janeiro: Bars/Brothels/Clubs: Barbarella: Barbarella Discussion: Archive 03
By Layne87 on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:17 am:  Edit

I guess I my tastes are different. This club still has the babes. There are about 5-10 in there last night that were built way beyond my expectations. It was hard to talk them down tho..ended up with my #2 choice...good selection if I say so. Älmost perfect body.

Not very crowded there either. 2:1 ratio in our favor. Still prices a bit steep, but I believe the quality warrants it.

By Athos on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:29 pm:  Edit

Layne87
Can you give an approximate guess at number of garotas at Barb? and if 5 10's does this mean plenty of 8 and 9's?

By Layne87 on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 01:37 pm:  Edit

Yes plenty of 7,8,9's there at this time with many more expected back on Monday...I say there are 2 10's there the night I was there. One would not give off $200us. When I left at 130 she was still there.

By Layne87 on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 06:51 am:  Edit

They have the best lookers IMHO. Visited again last night. My number 1 pick still will not give off her price and she was gone early with another hombre. I can tell she does not like me and I know this wil not be good session. I chose blonde with beautiful body for R300. Not GFE but with this body it is ok, still lots of fun.

There are many sweet gorls in here who are not pros and they will do R200 all night but they just do not look like the superstars.

One note to you Athos-many of the girls are leaving for other countries soon, since the busy season is over. The blond last night even had a visa for the USA??!!!

By Athos on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 09:32 am:  Edit

Layne87
You've got me a bit concerned about selection but BA is only a few hours away if needs arise. I am not going until mid May. But I believe I'll be ok as I am not as selective as you are.

By Youngtom on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:43 am:  Edit

The talent does ebb and flow over the course of the year in Rio. As Yogi Beara might have said "Rio is a big country". Even if things are slower than peak season there, there are still lots of gorgeous women. One of the advantages of going to Rio several times is that you can always look up some old friends/all-stars like Camila or Paulina; sounds like you've had lots of fun - Layne.

By Layne87 on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 03:43 pm:  Edit

Yes thank goodness I had those two for sure. Keep your numbers guys in case this happens to you.

Danielle is also back for awhile but she is also going to Italy in June...Her blue eyes are still awesome.


Athos- You will be fine as there are still plenty of 8's running around. You will also see prices fall IMHO as I when a 7 in Barbarellas goes to R200 for all night quickly. Also the blond from last night told me business is VERY slow.

On the other hand yeah check out BA for us!!!!

By Athos on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 12:55 pm:  Edit

Layne87
thanks for all daily reports.
I thought Daniella was a garota beach?
I intend to stay the course and stick it out 2 weeks in Rio in May but my inclination is to go to BA in Nov time.
We're getting some great info on BA from the usual suspects: Moongod, Ezy and soon upwphoto and others.

By Layne87 on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 03:43 pm:  Edit

Sorry yes she is from the beach..she does not work nights either...you may see her in front of help but likely not...I have her number offline if anyone wants it.

By Athos on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 05:45 pm:  Edit

Layne87
If Daniella is headed to Italy in June, it's probably for modeling gig.
One garota from Help and Meaia Petaca mentioned to me she was a full time model and traveled regularly to Italy and other places.
Where on earth can you play with real models for the price of a hook?

By Layne87 on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 06:56 am:  Edit

Finally get the trophy queen....probably one of the best looking all around sexy women I have been with. Not GFE by any means but wow what a stunner...short time only as her prices will kill you...I did make sure she did not return to the club..

Last night there were quite a few girls but also quite a few guys. I had my deal sealed at 10:45 and it was almost standing room only. You know prices will not move to far with that many guys in the room.

By Canonperdido on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 08:27 pm:  Edit

Hay Layne87. Are you in Rio this Thursday? I will be there. I am coming up from BA in the afternoon. Had coffee with Moondog today.

Later.

By Youngtom on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 08:48 pm:  Edit

Canonperdido - I know that Rio and BA are 2 very different places but it would be interesting to see how you compare the 2?

By Layne87 on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 10:53 am:  Edit

Canonperdido- Sorry you just missed me. Would have liked to met ya.

By Canonperdido on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:01 pm:  Edit

Will start a discussion on the comparison. I am sure that Moondog´s might be different, and each of us has had a different viewpoint.

By Layne87 on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 03:15 pm:  Edit

YT- here is a cute little story on our new friend from WSA Habana..we both are at Barbarellas one night and I am trying to work on the queen again and Habana grabs my #2 choice blonde with awesome body ..ok face...I strike out with the queen and all night I am having trouble finding a suitable playmate...Habana has struck a deal with the blonde but she must dance once more before she leaves,,,while she is dancing Habana comes across a definte GFE sweetheart he likes better..He leaves with her while the blonde is still dancing..when she discovers this she starts raging out loud where most people can hear her.. she was pissed off big time...I ask her what happened unknowingly like and she lets me have it and I stop her mid way and ask if I can take his place...it was like a bottle in a baby's mouth...like a dozen roses...almost like a diamond ring..well not that good...anyway Barbarellas waives my bill for some reason and the blonde ends up not being a great GFE like Habana saw but a great grudge fuck with her great blonde skin and body.....one of the best of my trip...I gave habana a hard time all week about it and warned him not to go back in there and if he did I wanted to be there to see the fireworks...

so I guess you did...

By Youngtom on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 05:33 pm:  Edit

Layne - I think that was great advice that you were giving Habana (ie don't go back); one doesn't ever want to get on the wrong side of a crazy brasiliera.

By Habana on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 08:15 am:  Edit

Layne, thanks for summing up.

One thing first; Normally I always treat the girls fair and respect them. Believe it or not, but it is my personality and gives me the best time with them.

I expect them to keep a deal when we have one and I will also do the same as long thing are going as planned. I asked her if she was finished dancing for the night and she said YES. We were about to leave, when she suddenly said I had to wait another 45 min (to wait for her time on stage, her dance etc).

What I felt right there was that she kind of broke the deal we had. Maybe not a big deal, but being a bit drunk, that was how I felt it. Since I also felt she was quite pro and not very GFE, I made a quick decision to go for the girl hitting hard on me, being extremely charming and with a VERY nice attitude. Even if I (as you Layne) like to go for the trophy fucks, I really appreciate nice attitude. Anyway, what happened just happened.

So why did she freak out that hard? Maybe she had the ‘first time being dumped experience’ or maybe she just liked me. lol. On the serious side; I know this was not very nice to do, but what can I say, shit happens.

I am glad you had a nice time with the blond Layne, so did I. BBBJ, anal, nice ball licking etc, in other words: full service and for 100R less than the blond. (who I still want to do). That is probably why I went back ‘pushing my luck’ looking for her.

More on that later. Habana

By Habana on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 09:29 am:  Edit

Layne!

About Danielle; I received e-mail from her yesterday and she said she wasn’t VERY impressed by the photos posted of here at WSA. She wasn’t pissed off like ready to kill, but she kindly asked me to remove the pics from the site and then she would forgive..

I have asked admin to remove all pics off her at WSA. I also replied to her that it was done because we all worship her :-) and I also sent her all other photos I have of here. Probably not a big deal, just wanted you to know.

By Youngtom on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 10:17 am:  Edit

Hey, what are you guys doing telling girls about the internet? Talking about email is fine but anything more than that and you're only going to create problems; probably for yourself. Some girls might like the publicity but most will probably just get very,very angry at you.

By Habana on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 12:36 pm:  Edit

I totally agree. Prob. is that many now know this from before or get it from other sources.

By Layne87 on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 02:07 pm:  Edit

She should be thankfull of the ones I posted since she has gotten SO much business from the from the WSA side...I get emails all the time on her because of the blue - eyed babe...ON the other hand the one that you posted...nahhh toooo much my friend....mine are classy...yours well you know...

Yes and who told her about WSA..that is twice I have heard of girls knowing what goes on at that place..I had to pull my entire report over there because of some bonehead complaining to a girl why she did this for me and not for him??!!!...none from this site...I will leave hers up here I think....

By Dood on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 02:42 pm:  Edit

What until I post my Danielle pics.. :)

hahah

By Habana on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 02:46 pm:  Edit

Layne;

Don’t think my pic was that bad. In fact she wanted it taken that way, but I get your point :-). Glad I did not post my complete album... Have to say that I understand her. Should probably never have posted it and I am feel a bit sad for doing that today as she is soo sweet. A pity that she saw it! but at least I know for sure that I have posted my last pic over there.

By Dood on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 02:57 pm:  Edit

I only post here... that place is a mess..

By Layne87 on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 04:25 pm:  Edit

that is what makes her special..Danielle is a bit of a nasty girl with great looks and body...you should see some of the pics I have of her...she wanted it that way also but I knew not to post those...when she met us at Alcazar that night I gave her copies of them and the ones where she was lets say exposed she got all red in the face and hid them really fast from everyone...Actually Don mentioned the net to her about all the guys wanting to meet her...I dont believe he knew I understood their conversation and I told her the bad ones were not up and she trusted me with what...

I dont think she would be mad as she is reaping the rewards from it...as a matter of fact she should be giving me freebies due to increase business...email her for me Habana and tell her that for me please sir...

By Hombre on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:26 pm:  Edit

Discussing ClubHombre or other travel/sex sites with the chicas puts us at a disadvantage from my experience. If you want to be assured of fresh content on an ongoing basis, it's probably best to keep mum about your online activity besides email.

With the increased activity on Brazil, I've placed the Brazil photos under Corner security in case you missed the post on SA Chat. I'll go into this more later under the FAQ section, but basically it makes those photos very difficult to access with shared or compromised passwords.

In addition, I'm working on security to limit access to Brazil photos altogether while in Brazil. I already have similar security completed and in place for Costa Rica, and I'm compiling information for other locations around the world as well.

Dood, you've got to be a contender in the 2002 Annual Hombre Awards for Best Photo and Best Photographer with the submissions I put up today. Sorry for the light editing, but I prefer to keep ClubHombre just a little more conservative with regards to photos. But don't let that stop you from submitting more like that!

By Crafter on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 07:47 am:  Edit

I wholeheartedly agree with Hombre on this one, absolutely no mention of the reviews, pictures, or even the existence of any form of editorials should be mentioned to the ladies at all - this is sure to cause problems as girls and agencies start to hear bad things about them and then the guys get caught in a tough spot.

Just my thoughts as I contemplate my BA or Rio visit.

By Bendejo on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 11:17 am:  Edit

Hombre: I understand the need to keep CH from the gals, but cutting off access to pics from remote locations sounds like a bad idea in my opinion because if I want to check out a gal that was reviewed I would like to see her pic to recall what she looks like. Paying for access to the pics and then finding out you can't see the pics from certain parts of the net can be a big disappointment to some subscribers.

By Hombre on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 11:33 am:  Edit

The ultimate decision is a work in progress, and even if a decision is made, that doesn't mean it can't be changed in the future.

The wishes of my reporters will play a big factor in the photo policy. Photo contributors, particularly regular ones, are hard to come by, so to keep the high rate of photos coming, I need to abide by their wishes.

By Layne87 on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 04:26 pm:  Edit

I agree with you Hombre on this move as int cafes are FULL of girls EVERYDAY in Rio..they will find these places...and some of these girls are quite intelligent.

On Bendejo's point...maybe if this occurs they can do a special request to you or contributor to check her out...I see both points but lean toward the heavy security more so...one of the reasons I never asked you to pull mine like I did in another place...

By Crafter on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 08:05 am:  Edit

Layne:

email me at crafter404@yahoo.com - think we know each other.

By Layne87 on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 04:10 pm:  Edit

Hey what happened to the picture of my home away from home????

Crafter email on the way...I am stumped...

By Layne87 on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 04:19 pm:  Edit

Desculpe...found it...Ahhhhhh I feel better already ...need to call wife #1...

By Athos on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 07:35 am:  Edit

Sorry to bring some bad news inflation rio style.
A drink is now 50R, bar fine is 50R so 100R just to get a chance at a pretty latina.
On the good news, attendance is required to work at Barb, garotas must be at work by 11:00 pm so looks like they are not allowed to come back when on early hook. Kate the garota i picked mentioned not going back to work as she has vet school during the day. This could help some piranhas to give better session but I found the screening process pretty easy.
I did notice one Help garota working at Barb now and vice versa a garota i met at barb last nov working now at Help.

By Athos on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:03 am:  Edit

I like Barbarella for the lineup.
Picked up my second dud of the trip, very pretty morena Paloma, 26 looks 20, 8.5 in looks, complete dud in bed 3.0. She started crying when I decided to pull out of boring sexo.
Has anyone any info on stunning looking morena Tais, she is part of nude dancer lineup. She smokes a lot and loves to dance on the left hand side (close to banheihos) of dance floor???
She knows I am drooling for her but am working on her. She looks pretty pissed when I did not pick her.
Loira Kate was looking mighty pissed when we exchanged glares, she with a customer, me with Paloma last night. I still probably will give her another try as sure thing.

By Layne87 on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:05 pm:  Edit

Paloma from BH??? very sad as this girl is hot..face, ass, and skin to die for--last part of phone number -1620??....I was told she was a good one to choose by wife #1 as she is from the infamous BH. Dang she was on the A list for next trip...way to take one for the team Athos...

Sorry no info on Tais girl...Veronica and Priscilla are part of dance line up and are good lays but not awesome..mostly got them for the trophy collection...Priscilla is the one I posted pics on last month or so....so would not recommend for GFE session..

By Athos on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:31 am:  Edit

Layne87
Thanks for heads up.
I'd say forget Paloma as she gave me good vibes in club, beautiful smile which totally disappeared in my room. In the room, great body but face shows her age.
Priscilla, I heard she was a nympho from another hombre.
I am doing Tais just for her patience for waiting me out, she smiles to me every time out ah as she wants part of her share. She has a 10 body, 9 face, chain smoker, ass to die for, one of the best looking dancers but looks too serious.
Saw some other pretty ones last night but probably won't have enough time looks like. Bunch of 8's and 9's, best lineup in town.

By Bluestraveller on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:51 am:  Edit

Hi Layne87,

I was with Athos in Rio last week. Just returned yesterday. Are the pictures of Priscilla under the name Barbarella girl? If so, then the Priscilla I was with last week from Barbarella is definitely a different woman. This woman was remarkable for two reasons. 1- she had a clit the size of my pinky. Never seen anything like that before. 2- she is a nympho. We did it standing up, on the floor, on the bed, in the bathroom, all over the room. I really thought we would break something. After I finished, she was still raring to go. After another hour, I had to kick her out because I wanted to get some rest.

I'm doing up a trip report sometime next week complete with more video.

Athos, don't give up!!!! You can still hit your magic number. HAHAHA.

BluesTraveller

By The_Artist on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 04:01 pm:  Edit

gentlemen,
I'm not sure how appropriate this is but my reading of this thread bothered me and I was not quite sure why.I think I have it figured out. The thing which puzzled me was why you guys would spend so much time and energy going after girls who treated you poorly, played hard to get, and overcharged (this is a fair assessment of Barbarella's from my experience). At first i thought it was just a trophy thing (which i can understand) but now I'm not so sure. It seems more like dragging bad gringo habits of interaction into Brazil.What are you teaching these girl? That snobby, unresponsive behavior pays big dividends? You're teaching them to act like Americans. I think we would all be better off if we all tried to follow one simple rule...girls who play hard to get DO NOT get got.Just remember, "if she won't do it, then her sister will." There are just too many great, enthusiastic girls in Rio to waste time with girls like these...no matter how good looking they are. I think a general boycott of Barbarellas would do wonders for the attitudes of these girls, and , if not, they are better left to tourists with more money and less savy.Just my opinion. You don't cure a behavior by rewarding it.

By Dood on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 04:23 pm:  Edit

Amen brotha...

(Even though he's sitting front of me as I type, and I could just tell him.)

By Sakebomb on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:31 am:  Edit

For me that's very inappropriate. Never tell another man what he should or shouldn't do with his own time and money. The easy sex gets old after awhile so if a chick is hot and she plays hard to get, it makes her and the fantasy/game a little more interesting.

A must stick your deek in every hot girl at least once kinda guy.

By Layne87 on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:34 am:  Edit

I got this one ....Artist...Athos and I have similar taste in that we go for the trophies...as you can see we have been with the same girls at the different clubs...Barbarellas has the best line up in town bar none in our opinion...I found wife #1 in there on trip one and was floored much like Camila did to me...R300 for the entire night and most of the day...Probably overall the best GFE I have found in rio so far..There are some real sweethearts in there..but it is true that most of the true trophy girls are not GFE material...So my take is that if she if she turns out to be non GFE at least I have downed a true trophy..shallow but hey arent we all 'cause of where we are...I so sorry but I cant boycott my favorite place...I know where to find the sweethearts when needed...remember your warning tho..weak hearts should seek milder entertainment!!!

Wrong Priscilla..yes the girl pictured under barbarellas is the one I am referring to....I may have gotten her name wrong...I worked on her for 3 nights to make sure of at least getting my moneys worth..to me she was the queen of the place...she stands out big time IMHO...complete awesome body...smokin...she was good in bed not GFE...She actually lasted quite awhile with me...2 1/2 hours of non stop sex in my apartment where I am more comfortable.. (R300 plus R100 bar)..(terma avg cost R200 for one hour)...so I really cant complain..she just did not have the personality of a camila..but this maybe better for me from now on so I do not get confused anymore...yep trophies with no personality...just great lays..

By Athos on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:31 am:  Edit

The Artist
Do you also boycott Help as well?
Termas is the only reason Rio should be a stop on any serious hombre travel plan. But termas are all the same, variety adds spice to life.

Every hombre does his thing, I have had one dud at Help and one dud at Barbarella. Yes if you want a perfect batting avg, you have to stick to termas. Even the garotas who will give you the best time of your life, if you get to know them they will tell you how bad they feel for having to open their legs to make a living. Where on earth can an 8 or 9 beg you to marry them and you just crack up?
My second trip to Rio, I feel garotas have been spoiled outside of termas. But I am not willing to go for lesser looks to guarantee gfe. Some hotties are willing to go the distance so it's all hit and miss at Help and Lido.
The good looking ones at Help all quote 150$ but will go for 200R except for Eliani of course, who is still standing in her corner.
The bottom line, I am very happy to pay 50R to watch the garotas dance as I can't get this in SoCal or TJ. And trophy's sessions are very hard for me to get as only superior talent gets my old body to churn. When I am in TJ, sometimes it takes me 8 hours to pick one chica, in Rio it can take me as little as 15 seconds.

I believe different ideas on clubs and termas add to the reviews and help rookie visitors. Yes the waiters are real pricks in Barb.

By Traveller on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:46 am:  Edit

I believe that if you know how to approach and talk to girls, you can get laid all over Rio or Brazil for that matter. You don't even have to pay if you play it right.
But Rio has a cultural environment that breeds expectation for various levels of paid sex. Both provider and tourist contribute to sustaining this dynamic.
Places like the termas and Barbarellas are accepted on both ends as places to transact business, and the rates and attitudes are driven by the mutual unwritten agreement entered into by the participants in this game. Pure economics, but with a strong psychological component.

I believe that Rio has more girls who are able to have more sex than the clientele can support. Think about it. I know one girl who didn't work for 2 weeks, then bagged a guy for $300 in an hour. Would she have preferred to work once a day for $50, you betcha!!Even the terma girls end up sitting around for hours or days at a stretch when things are slow. So supply far outstrips demand. All that supports the price is the perception on the demand side that the price should be higher than where normal business economics puts it.

The following comment is not intended to incite a riot or brag or otherwise upset any one individual: But generally, I never pay and I get all the action I could want. Obviously not with anyone or in any place, but the quality is amply to my satisfaction. I do it by not playing by the rules, and by choosing not to relate to the garotas as pros. (Try saying to a girl, after introductory small talk: I would love to meet with you when you are off work.)

I am quite sure most of the guys on this board know exactly how to do this, have tried it several times, but just choose to pay for the sure thing, who, when, how and where you want it. Hence the cost involved.

Again, I do not mean to start a big debate, just some private observations.

PS, Many moons ago I met a guy from Sacramento in Ft. Lauderdale. We went to a Spring Break club together. He refused to enter, not due to the cost of admission, but to greet girls as they entered. At the end of the night when they were leaving alone, he would swoop in and rescue their night while of course getting lucky with her. He claimed they were generally more fun to be with this way than if he had poured drinks on them all night, while fighting to keep their attention.
I never forgot this guy, he got laid every night with gorgeous women.

By The_Artist on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:03 am:  Edit

Actually, I do boycott HELP most of the time. I'm not telling anybody what to do. I'm simply offering my observations and comments. Have you ever wondered why the trophy girls are often not GRE? Could it be that they are used to being chased for their looks and do not feel that they need to give good service? I like trophy girls myself and am not adverse to paying the upper end of the scale for them. I do however try to stay ON the scale. There is no reason that I can see to ever pay over 200R in Rio. Doing so tends to change the rules and inflate the prices for everyone. I have seen this happen time and again(look at Costa Rica)Fortunately, Rio is big and such problems can usually be confined to a few spots. Unfortunately, Help is one of them. All I am saying is to whore responsibly. What you do does have an effect on us all. Try to leave the place in as good a condition as you found it.
BTW, I found several trophy level girls in Frank's without having to pay Barbarella prices.

By Layne87 on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 04:22 pm:  Edit

Unfortunate but true..we internet mongers dont make up the majority in a place like Barbarellas...The queen got R500 2 of the 3 night s I was in there working her...$200 for a babe to these guys is nothing..so I dont blame the girl...Same at cent..I witnessed gentleman from Ky..lay down an additional R900 on top of the R290 one night...With this happening I feel R300 for a queen is pretty good....by the way Don struck out in Franks twice on girls who would not come off R300...they are even there...every where but the termas where those girls pull more money than anyone else in the biz...The porn star at T65 avgs 5-6 per night then goes to help sometimes to finish the night...thats good money people....the termas are the best bang for the buck but really they are the most expensive if you break it down...

By Youngtom on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 08:15 am:  Edit

The_Artist - Very well stated

it is like the sucker stateside that walks into a car dealership, pays the full sticker price, and thinks that he is getting a better car by paying more. If one has some familarily with the going rate (and the rate will vary based on looks), then one does not need to overpay. There are lots of other beautiful women to talk to. If suckers want to overpay, I'm fine with that but they'll actually get less service by doing so.

Great looking women can do very well in the termas(it is simple mathematics - more trips to cabine = more money). some girls girls are good at math; some hang at Barbarellas and wait for guys with $100 bills hanging out of their pockets.

By Athos on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 08:17 am:  Edit

Most Barbarella garotas will accept 200R, it's give and take. I am not really excited in any garota at Boates or Help as termas have spoiled me. Barb garotas are throwing themselves at me as they see me every night so attitude counts for a lot.

The Artist
Franks selection is simply awful right now, only 2 pretty garotas. Barb has about 80 to 100, 1/3 get picked quickly, 2/3 get desperate in a hurry. I'd say bunch of 8's at Barb, could easily find a dirty dozen to play with.

Traveller is right, plenty of beautiful women available. I prefer to pay myself to not go too deep with any of them. That mall Rio Sul is awesome...good food and plenty of beautiful garotas, I am not seeing any fat ones here like i see in the States. Picking non pro takes more time, from what I have heard, treat a woman right then wait for sexo on second date. Pick them at regular club or the mall but I have never tried this. My portuguese must be good enough as most garotas ask me if i live in Sao Paulo.

By The_Artist on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 08:19 am:  Edit

Unlike most places, Rio provides us with a simple and reliable measure of what the going price actually is.That measure is the price scale at the termas.The price for a short time with a girl is between 80R and 120R. On the outside this shorttime is extended to a two hour period but there is no reason for that price to be more than 150R. The service is the same, the girls are comparable. Why should the pricing be substantially different? I am willing to pay a premium price for an exceptional girl...say 200R...but why should the price be more than that?In fact, eventhough I have paid 200R plus a 30R barfine for girls at Frank's the same girls have been glad to meet me when offwork for 150R.Obviously this is the going rate on Copa. How does overpaying serve anyone. I know for a fact that the girls see such men as pathetic. Why do you think they call that ice bucket/champagne row in HELP the "Loser's Row"?
Women love confidence and men who throw money around ostentatiously are expressing insecurity.
The girls know this and respond with disdain. They may take the money but they rarely respond with anything which resembles affection.
The price I pay to girls is not for access...it is for convenience and clarity. The terms are clear and time is not wasted. Overpaying does not buy respect.