i have never seen her before, but at help she wouldn't catch my eye.

Her rates make me laugh! Nice body, but if she was doing decent business she wouldn't be shaking it at Help every night.

I can't figure you guys out sometimes.
Leaving aside her rates, that barbara butt girl is pretty attractive in my book.

Everyone talks about the beauties they have bedded, but the pictures you guys post seldom match your ratings. Then when shown what I would consider an attractive girl you suggest she is just average, "at help she wouldn't catch my eye".
Maybe if your tastes run in a different direction, for blondes or whatever. But I haven't seen too many pictures on this site of prettier girls.

If that is average why is everyone suggesting that Help is a waste of time now? If Help is full of girls that look like that, I will be quite happy and I don't understand why everyone is complaining. It just doesn't add up.

She wouldn't catch my eye (for more than a moment, anyway) at Help. Sure, our tastes are all different, but you should be aware that the pictures you are judging rarely do justiceto the garotas in person. We're (mostly) not professional photographers. I know for sure some of my garotas have been given high ratings by our fellow mongers who met them in Rio, but not when reduced to a photo on this board.

Go and have fun, there's enough to go around.

Hugo,

If it makes u feel any better. I think she is really hot. Its a good thing all us mongers do not have the same taste in women. Happy hunting. -LB

I am almost positive I saw her working in 4X4 while i was there in December. Looks exactly like her, body and all.

Hugo,

I don't think she is ugly by any means, I would rate her as a 7 or 8 and if I saw her in a bar in nyc I would be on her like crazy. But there are a couple reasons for the comment "she wouldn't catch my eye". Number one, when you are dealing with 50 or more girls outside help and 300 or more inside help, no matter how many times you visit (and I have been a lot) unless a girl is playmate material, you have taken her home, or she is always hitting on you people aren't going to remember her most likely. Secondly, if you are looking for girls of this caliber, you will find 100 of them at help every night that you can take home and fuck 3 or 4 times for 75 dollars to 100 dollars, and this is the case no matter how much people are complaining about how much help sucks, etc. that has always been the case in the 50 times I have been there or whatever, so no one individual girl of this caliber would catch my eye. Go to brazilbang or mikeinbrazil for a taste of the girls there, they all work at either help or a terma for the most part and if you are in brazil you can have any of them. They are a good representation of the average girls you will find at help or a good terma.

Also, it is important to remember what I once saw someone post on here, which is that help is loaded with 7 and 8's but that the guys who have been going there a while get spoiled with all the beauty and constantly want better, kinda like the saying, no matter how beautiful a woman is, someone is tired of fucking her

It is easier to remember the girls at centaurus or 4x4 because although they have 100-200 girls on the payroll (the higher number at 4x4) you generally will see the same 30 or 40 hanging out every night at centaurus and higher at 4x4 so if you go to each 10 times you are going to remember a good number of the girls there.

That being said, I am in agreement with everything that hunterman said wrt photos and tastes.

For a taste of my personal type, check out pricila and clara by following this link or by going to the centaurus thread cause my tastes do run contrary to many of the people here. Also, you can see how different pricila's face looks between the picture here and the one of her in a bikini that is in the running for the best of the 4th quarter or whatever. In my opinion, she looks good in the link photo, and downright ugly in the bikini photo, but at least you get a decent look at her body in the bikini photo. This is just an example of what hunterman means wrt us not being professional photographers and not doing justice to the true beauty of the girls.

https://www.clubhombre.com/discus/messages/1367/4395.html

This girls website (barbarabutt or whatever) is interesting for a number of reasons, but for me her rates are ridiculous, considering there are so many girls at help, 4x4 and centaurus that are of the same caliber or better that can be had for cheaper. I definitely give her credit for having a decent website, she must have a good american friend, or boyfriend who created it for her, not only because of the quality but also because there is no way in hell she can write english that well. I would be interested in knowing how much business she gets out of it.

Well, if I read the rates correctly Barbara Butt is really not that expensive -

She lists incall in Rio, Frankfurt, and Mannheim. The latter two cities are in Germany.

So it appears like her rates are R$200 for Rio incalls(which is $76 based on 2.6 conversions). If she happens to be in Germany, I guess her rates there go up to $200 Euro/Dollar.

I am reading this incorrectly?

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Frankfurt-München, Mannheim

1 hour.......................$RS 200// Euro/Dollar 200

2 hours......................$RS 300// Euro/Dollar 350

3 hours......................$RS 600// Euro/Dollar 450

5 hours......................$RS 700// Euro/Dollar 500

Overnight...................$RS 850// Euro/Dollar 800

What else is interesting is that the German cities she listed are in the "FKK regions". If that is the case and you visit Germany, you can probably find out what FKK she is working at (if she happens to be there during that time) and pay only 50 Euro's for 30 minutes.

It would be interesting to know how much she quotes at 'Help' for a date.

R$200 is higher then the average incall cost in Rio, which tends to run around R$100 - R$150.

I personally think she is quite hot.

thanks for the clarification guys. I was actually trying to provoke a clarification of all the "Help sucks these days" posts, more than a debate about barbara per se. Gr8ter's comments helped in a good way by suggesting that there are enough lookers at help to make it worth my investigating. Honestly, I was getting depressed with all the negativity and was wondering whether I had made a good decision booking an apartment around the corner from Help.

i think 850 is way high for overnight cause you could have a foursome of help girls of the exact same quality or better for the same price. i am a generous guy but this is way above the highest i have ever paid in rio. for one hour i agree with loving that it is on par with centarus or something like that but way higher than a pataca or agency 1 hour date (100-150).

Sorry, those rates suck, for inside Brasil. OK, R200 for 1 hr is expensive, anything over R400 (being generous - I'd claim anything over R250-150) for TLN is stupid expensive.

My point was the same as Gr8ter and Flhobbyer. She's good looking, but her rates are high. She's average to maybe above-average in looks, but as has been said, you could walk around Help for probably 10 minutes and find a better looking girl at a lower price.

I like her, shes worth 2-300 for the night , Id say shes a solid 8-9, we all have different tastes though, I dont really like any of gr8ters girls at all ,but im not into blonds, that being said ,Ill pretty much bang anything Ive been to help 4 or 5 times and I think its great, I have nothing to compare it to ,because I have only been going to Rio for 10 months or so.

Not a bad piece of ass, I'd Say around 7-7.5 and a decent night's horizontal labour would earn her BR$200-250 providing of course she lets me take pics and does BBBJ's!

I think that all the negative help talk is a result of some guys spending wayyyyy too much time there be it number of visits to Rio or help in any given year. Personally i notice my attitude change about the place between the time I arrive and when I am ready to leave. The first couple of nights I'm in Rio I just cant get enough of the entire Help/Terraco scene. By the 4th or 5th night when i'm fucked out going there starts becoming a chore.

Realistically though you cant beat the place even though its full of drunk Euro trash, back half smells like puke and you come out smelling like booze and smoke. Where else can you go score an 18yo hotty for a night of uninhibited fun for less than $75?

WHile we are on the topic of money I'd like to remind everyone BR$200-250 is what a retail clerk makes in Brazil in a whole month so pls pay the girls accordingly so that we can all continue to frequent our favourite mongering destination!

Where or what is
"
brazilbang or mikeinbrazil

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mentioned in earlier post!

Websites, add a .com and go look.
BL

I just went thru the MikeinBrazil site.. I reco about 1/3 of the girls there. Shiva for one i have sampled. She spoke zero english and was a college student at the time (or at least that was her line). She was a good in the sack. No where near as enthusiastic as i am sure the video portrays.

Here's a Help update...

We'll, after being TOTALLY dissapointed by the quality and attitude of the girls in Help during my Navidad/Revelon visit - I left two of the nights without a girl but did meet one on her way returning in - I hit Help again last with low expectations.

I was almost overtaken as I met girl after girl that I haven't seen before. Two of them (tall morena Jacqueline and Anna from BH) claimed that they were in their first ever trip to Rio, working Help for less than one month (I chose to believe them as I've never seen them before). I saw 5-10 others that I couldn't remember seeing before that were also in my judgement doable.

A couple of us were at TA last night and there was not one fuckable garota in the whole place. The weather wasn't the best but still, for a Friday night in the summertime, it really sucked.

Cat I think one problem Rio is having now is the number of good looking ones going to Europe to work. Hopefully the Euro will decline and the Dollar strengthen and these women will all come home again. - Hemp

I just got back Monday. I know about 4-5 girls told me they were heading to Spain from March-July.

I noticed that the talent in Luomo was way down compared to 3 months ago. 4X4 and MC had the better talent as far as the Termas went.

Also a lot of the terma girls that are going to Spain have actually quit the termas and are working Help until they go over seas. This might explain the drop in talent at the some of the termas.

One HUGE thing that guys haven't mentioned. is that there is a large number of girls who are getting "sponsored". I cant tell you how many girls I have met from Termas and Help who are getting anywhere from 2-3 thousand US a month to "stay home".

SO these girls become extremely selective in who they will go home with, they will onlyleave with someone who they are attracted to. They are the ones who will quote guys "$300-400 dollars for one hour."

Because they know you will balk at the price and walk away. Meanwhile, the guy they consider cute, who they want to fuck, they will only charge him 200R.

Interesting idea and I think it could definitely be a factor particularly wrt termas. A girl can still go to Help but pretend she’s just out with her friends. If she’s in a termas it’s a little harder to convince someone she’s not still working.

A English friend of mine regularly fucks an ex-Help girl who is married to a wealthy Italian. She’s retired but still goes in a lot. Not only does he fuck her for free she even puts all his booze on her tab. Lucky bastard. I haven’t had any luck with her at all and haven’t seen her with other guys so she obviously just likes fucking him. I just wonder what the husband thinks she’s up to when he sees credit card slips from Help.

A few years ago during Carnaval I grabbed a girl from No Name. It was 6am and we fucked all day till about 10pm. It was a real hard no-nonsense fuck probably one of my top 3 Rio experiences and I was happy to pay her R$200. As she was leaving her German boyfriend rang. Later that week I found out that she married him 3 days afterwards.

So IME girls even if they’re being sponsored (or are “in love”) they still work on the premise
i) that they should grab all the cash they can while they can
ii) that they don’t have real feelings for the guy and even if it goes pear-shaped there’ll be another sucker along to pay the bills.

Let’s face it, most of here have been in the middle of fucking a garota when a call from the sponsor/boyfriend comes thru. However, I agree with Thumper that they may become more selective and ask for higher amounts.

I didn't hit Help Friday night (Baronetti was awesome) but did go Saturday. Started at about 11:45p a TA, and it was all dogs. Inside Help by about 12:45a and I thought the talent level was ok, sufficient... better than January but not amazing.

There are so many girls that are really picky about accepting less than insulting prices. Maybe they're sponsored, maybe they wait for the 'whale' who pays R$300-R$600 (stupid tourist, rich guy who doesn't care, guy who wants a 30 minute pop and freedom afterwards, guy they can trick in some way...), maybe they do well enough that they only want someone they find 'attractive'...

I think it's a combination of reasons, but mostly I think too many guys are just overpaying and as a group have collectively conditioned most girls to ask and/or hold out for more.

FL.. Nothing better than bringing a few lady friends to Baronetti..

lol, no wonder the girls are always quoting me outrageous prices, cause i am an ugly motherfucker Thumper is right, I know a lot of girls also who have "friends" in the US or europe who send them US 1000 or 2000 per month. From what I have seen though it usually does not last for long, after about 3 or 4 months the guy either figures out that she can't get a US visa or that he is tired of paying for someone he only sees three or four times a year for a week. If you guys are interested in doing this, most of the terma girls only make 3000 reais per month but one told me she made 8000 (the luana girl or whatever her name is at solarium). Most are willing to quit work for a while if they like you and will be happy with 3000 reais per month plus dinners, etc. the best ones want more though.

Another interesting story, one of the girls I met had a friend who used to work at a terma. She met an american who bought her a condo, car, and gives her 4000 usd per month (she says). The condo is in his name but this relationship has been going on for 2 years at least and she never works anymore. She only sees him 2x per year or so also and she has never gone to the US.

jesus, that's alot of coin to be sponsoring a girl. In Thailand it would average $500 a month to 'not go to work'... Which only means that she'll fuck her Thai boyfriend more often and only call the punters that are already in here black book.

So how much are these garotas making a month on average in Rio?

Specifically, what does a solid "8" makes if she works at Termas, same girl at Help, same girl at Barbarellas?

Let me define a solid 8 as either great body, good face or great face, good body, 18-28, solid GFE, not a hardened attitude.

I've heard such discrepancy, ranging from R$3,000=R$10,000+.

I know the girls at Barbarella's more. I think the solid 8's will get R$300.00 from brazilians and informed foreigners and R$400-650 from uninformed foreigners, and only occasionally will do more than one program a day. Most work 20-25 days/month.

I've heard comments from the girls that are conflicting... Some say "We get a program virtually every day, one way or another". Others will say that "things are really bad now, even during New Year's/Carnival, the class of people coming down are 'cheap', too much competition, girls willing to underprice, etc".

Then I know girls being sponsored, but from my experience, the girls being sponsored just end up spending more on car, appartment, clothes, grooming, sending money home, etc, and still have to work just the same.

So what is the consensus here of how much these garotas pull a month?

The average girls at 4x4, monte carlo and places like that make R3,000. I have confirmed this through numerous independent girls who all told me this same amount. I would say an 8 (and in my book there are very few 8's at the termas) makes around 4-5k reais per month.

For a girl to make R10,000 per month, lets think, let say at most they work 6 days per week or 24 per month (we can add two for more than four weeks in a month) that comes to 26 days. If they get around 120-150 per program (lets be generous and say 150) that means they have to average two and a half programs a day or so for 26 days to get to 10k per month. If they are working from 2-12 or 7-2 or so that is not unheard of, but a very good day. I would think this is almost impossible for them. I can't count the number of times I have walked into centaurus and seen 40 girls or so and like 5-10 guys.

The girl at solarium who told me she makes R8000 per month is always programming, and doesn't fuck around for an hour with a guy before hand, she is a real businesswoman and i would say days are rare where she doesn't get at least 2 or 3 programs.

If a girl at help does one guy during the day and two (at most) at night, lets say she gets 700 per day, then it is just a matter of how many night she wants to work. I would say 700 or so is the absolute most she could make per day. Most of them probably get around 2-400 per day, which is still a lot of money for them. And a few good looking girls I know tell me it is not unusual for them to not get a customer at help at all on some nights.

WRT paying a girl for a month, if a girl is into you, she really needs very little money to have a good life in brazil, especially if she doesn't have kids and isn't helping her family a lot. If she lives with you she can do well with 1k reais per month, if she lives alone in an apartment in copa, 2k will do her real well. the hard part is getting her to do this for you (stop working) but i have been able to do this a couple times.

(Message edited by gr8ter on March 07, 2005)

Makes sense gr8ter. I didn't mean to imply that the Termas girls were at the R10K range. I've heard that about some of the Barbarella girls. I.e. one talking about how much money the other made, not herself. This one girls that dances there, has gotten an appartment from a brazilian soccer player and a car from an american guy, and still works most nights, quoting US$200 for all night - but went for US$100 with my friend after knowing him for a while.

Another girl I know, got not only an A-class mercedes, and appartment, but also a business (clothing store) from an American guy.

Also despite all the talks about the Europeans inflating the scene, this one girl I know well, tells me that American guys are the ones that are buying cars and other items to the girls, with very few strings attached - i.e. no exclusivity/stop-work deal. The europeans that do that, do tend to want to bring the girls over.

What bugs me is that while I see all that going on, I hear the girls complaining that things are "very tough for them in Brazil" and they may have no choice than to to to Europe for a few months. I know 2 that are doing that.

Something doesn't add up. What gives? Either they are spoiled or this business has a lot of ups and downs for them.

Other thing that I was wondering, is for how long these girls work. I just met one girl who is 38 (looks 30 and is in good shape), who has been working for 8 years. Does anyone know how long they can work in the Barbarella class joints?

I am trying to understand this business - it is really interesting.

Thanks.

Yeah, we assume it's the Europeans who are bidding up prices because of the strong Euro, but that's not necessarily the case. I have a good friend whom I introduced to Rio 1.5 years ago. Big mistake - the guys makes a lot of money and falls in love easily. He's paying a girl he met in 4X4 3000R a month. I haven't seen her at 4X4 or Help my last few visits w/o him, so maybe she has curtailed her activity some, but the whole thing's ridiculous. He comes down once every two months for a few days. I got even more pissed off when he told me he recently spent over $1000 in a U.S. stripclub on one girl. Talk about fucking up the market for everyone else!

everyone is also talking about girls going to europe. two of the best looking girls I know and have posted pictures of on here told me today they are planning to go to spain in April. that really sucks but they know they can make more money there. girls regularly go to spain but it seems there are more going now. i know there will always be (hopefully) enough good looking girls to bang in brazil though.

oh yeah, and i think the reason why the girls don't have money is they waste it all on clothes, partying, electronics, etc. There are a lot of girls who don't, they save for a house, pay for their children, help their family with medical bills, etc. but whenever you hear a girl who makes 5000R per month say things are hard it is cause she is trying to live a manhattan lifestyle in rio, and it takes a lot of money to do that.

another important point is that they pay for most things (cars, houses) in cash, so they need to save a lot of money to buy a car, etc. which seems to be one of their primary objectives (buying and having a car and house).

My two cents about HELP. I just spent a month in Rio and arrived home this morning. I can agree with a lot of the comments made about HELP. I met up with a lot of members on this board in Rio during my trip....Val, Hemp, Cubanut, Wombat, Snooky, Smirker and lot of others. Out of this whole group, rarely did anyone want to go to HELP with me.

Contrary to lot of members, I loved this place! I went almost every nite and thought it was a fun place to hang out! Yes, I know for a fact that some of the girls can be very selective and will not go home with some guys! I seen quite a few that would turn guys away over and over....and will go after guys she like.

I also agree after the first week, I started to see some of the same old faces! But what was interesting, it also appeared to have some new & different faces each nite and that's what kept me going back each nite. I knew I was going to see some new stunners!

I will be posting some pictures shortly of the girls I pulled out of help....and (I think) most guys will find them pretty hot! At least the guys who were in Rio at the time I was felt they were hot.

I am very picky when it comes to women but I am not stupid! I paid between R200 to R300 each nite, depending on the girl. If she is quoting any higher than this....she does not want to be with you OR doesn't care if she goes home that nite with a guy. To be honest, the hot ones did not have to take under R200...because they always had takers.

I am not bragging, but I did manage to pull a few girls that consistently turned away other guys. I rented a real nice Penthouse that was on two levels and the girls loved it. Everyone has their own game and tactics....and the one I used really worked for me. I would pay the girls for 1 or 2 hour rates...but after I showed them a good time, danced a little with them, treated them nice....and with the help of the nice Penthouse apartment, I was usually able to keep the girls I liked the whole nite and was able do a repeats at other times. If I didn't like them, I stuck with the 1 or 2 hour rate. So...I never worried about spending the R200 or R250 or R300, because I usually got my money's worth. (Believe it or not, some of these girls live in nice apartments...I seen a couple of them and really was impressed!)

So the bottom line is....you will find stunners in HELP. As previously mentioned, some of these girls worked at Centurus and Barbarella, so that should not be the issue. You will find stunners! However, given the competition in HELP on any given nite for the stunners OR how some of them may be selective, you will have to have some game to consistently pull the HOT ones. But that's not to say you will have never pull a hottie out of HELP unless you a smooth operator....because as it becomes too late, some may lighten up on their earlier restrictions.

All in all, I loved this place. Given that it may not be that easy as a Therma, it adds a certain Thrill of the Hunt, competition and makes it that more exciting. I believe I am a decent looking guy that dresses nice. I am pull nice women in the States.....but let's be for REAL here. Not too many of us can pull stunners on a daily basis in the States. I'm keeping in real fellows!

Hopefully....in a few days, I have my photos posted and I think I will shed a new light on the quality of girls at HELP. I agree....some of the pictures of HELP girls that have been shown...kind of sends the wrong message about the quality of women available in HELP.

I'm with you, Priew. The only reason I didn't get to Help much my last trip was that I had too many other options. But my first 6 trips, before I found Club Hombre, BrazilSpecialist, and learned some Portuguese, I went to Help almost every night--and what I found there kept me coming back to Rio and to Help.

I have only been to Rio twice (Last October and March) and plan to return at the end of this month. When I was in Rio went to Help almost everynight and only had a problem meeting someone once. Even then, the girl I met that time started out as a weirdo but made up for it in bed. But over all I had a great time there. Last March I was meeting girls at Help left and right (mainly 7's and 8's). I had a blast with them all. In fact one of them stuck with me the last couple of days of my trip and hooked up with some freebies (BIGTIME). BUT, I'll never forget my first trip last October on the last night of the trip when some girl wanted 700R. She was very nice looking but not nearly worth 700R. I did a disappearing act on her. Houdini would of been proud.

One big difference from both trips was that my on my October trip, when I would meet a girl at Help, have an allnighter with them, come 8am they would roll out with the quickness. I mean they would be ninja like with the way they would get dress. Then they would wake me up to tell me they are living and want their money. The March trip was totally different because I would have to pretty much kick some of the girls out of my apartment that I met at Help the night before. I would wake up around 11am and couldn't believe how late in the next day it would be and the girl would still be snoring in the bed. I would wake them up for a morning session then tell them nicely time to roll.


Anyway, I guess we all get a different vibe from this place. But I really like going to Help and playing the games with these ladies. Then return home and tell my jealous friends and family members (who are unable to travel here for various reasons) all about my trips and show off my pics. Priceless!!

C20

Help is exchanging at 2.68 Real as of last week. There are less people in there now much more than my last trip during the last week of January. The selection has not improve personally for my taste. Just like many of you are saying....most of my favoritas at help are in Europe making more money. I guess I will have to find some new ones on the next trip.

Priew100: can't wait to check out the pics!!

wrt the comments about how much the girls make in brazil, i had a girl who is average looker but a hard worker at centaurus tell me she made r95,000 last year according to the tracking system of the club. she might be a little high but i don't think she was lying. this is also on par with what the luana girl said at solarium (but she was the best there, and the other girl was just average at centaurus). that is a shitload of money for an uneducated brazilian considering if they didn't work on the program they would only have 7,200r per year or so if they were lucky.

Found this one in Help, she acted like a star and asked for US 300$ !!! i laughed and she said she offered a discount to 200€.....finally we agree on R300$ in 5mn!
She is a 23 years old student (that's what she said...), nice siliconed breasts.

sorry, here are the pix

Photos: Pink Hat - Help 01 02 03

Very nice...thanks

She is a veteran, been in the life for about 5 years now. She likes to ask for big money to see if mongers are dumb enough to pay. Verry pretty face but she has a lot of skin problems on her body.

Loubi
What thumper said is true.This chick is a real shark.She's into big money and really wants to go to the states(at least 2yrs ago).She's speaks good english and looks good on the surface,but is horrible in the sack.Of the maybe 100+ chicks I ve hit in Rio she ranks in the bottom 5 in performance.I got her over 2yrs ago(before the boobs) and she was the first I ever heard quote a high price $400r.I was able to get her in the day time for 150r and on a later trip out of Help for the same price(why I repeated i don't know).Now she doesn't even look my way since I won't pay her price,but oh well.I've even seen her in videos(pretty latina 11 and others)and she is kinda weak in those videos too.But who knows YMMV.BTW I think she was the same age 2yrs ago too.lol.Her name is Thalia and is always in Help as of recently, so buyer beware....Late

ee, does that mean she isn't really a student afterall? lol. between the number of girls at help that say they are students and the number of girls at the termas who tell their families they are waitresses I would think every university and restaurant in rio should be loaded with hot chicks, lol.

That's right I recognize her now, she's got a fantastic body but horrible attitude. I have never been able to get any warm vibes from her. I wanted to go with her on my first trip or so but got shot down.

It's true this one is too much into money, she asked me the money before the action once in my room, i said after session and she insisted to see the R$ !!!! She goes by the name of Thally.
Session was average but not terrible and after she asked for being my girl friend for the week and to go shopping with me! She also asked why i didn't fuck her ass as she liked that ?! I think she only tried to convince me to call her another time because during action i did some attempts on this side and she didn't fell to receptive
I took her number and politely said goodbye thinking "go to hell stupid slut!".
All in all it was kind of funny to see this girl trying so hard to get the maximum money from me and me staying calm and smiling. I made some jokes on her attitude, she tried all she had in her bag and that wasn't smart at all....

Ee2002,

Yes, that is Thalia. She hangs out with one of my favorite at Help. Glad I didn't waste money on her. According to my favorita, Thalia supposedly has already been in the US (NY) and she is trying to go back. Don't really know the whole story as I don't really care.

Thumper,

Thalia hangs out with "wonder woman". She always around us when I'm with WW. Now that WW is not there she's hanging around with another big breasted girl. They look almost like they could be sisters.

Yeah, at the time going to the states was all she talked about.She even made a semi proposition to pay me so she can go.I just brushed it off and changed the subject.She's pretty well versed in big named US products too(prada,etc).When she asked me for a present,she would throw out those big names.(of course she got nothing).And I'm almost certain she took one of my favorite colognes from my room.

Anyways she can be a cool chick to talk to,but just be careful as you should with any of these GDPs.

She has been to NYC (She was stripping) she stayed with another garota who is being WELL taken care of. The other girl is being payed in the high 6 figures to be at beck and call for some wall st guy. (Apartment in Manhattan, 6 series benz, the whole nine)

Thally always gets pissed of with me because I wont take her. She only asks me for 150R but I keep turning her down. (She doesnt have enough bunda for my taste) She just gives me mean looks and asks "How come you wont fuck me?!!". LOL