Casa 'W' is fairly new, located on Ave Washington in the Moema area. W could have been spelled $ as in very expensive and very exclusive.

Here is Jarule's Casa W post from another thread -

Club W actually operates 3 separate houses, 2 of which are often closed for private parties. The one that most of the public goes to is basically a mansion, a really nice one located on Rua Alvorada, 550 - Vila Olímpia. You pay everything to the house...with a minimum consumption of about 170R. To take a girl out, you're looking at 600R minimum. Some will go for 1000R. Top-notch=1500R. Ouch.

Setting is much like Cafe Foto, with good food and drinks. There's also singing/light dancing/karaoke if you're up for that kind of thing.

What you're paying for is basically the ambience and selection...as well as the fact that these are not typical girls on the 'programa.' In fact, without exception, they're educated, classy, and some are even models/minor television personalities.

Sex is average. CBJ is the norm. Is it worth it? Only if you have the money to blow and want the ultimate trophy fuck.

Thanks to Jarule providing address, I was able to locate Club Washington location. In Moema as well, by Vila Olimpia, Vila Uberabinha and Brooklin Paulista. All these Moema boates are within 5 min of each other looks like.
No web site available, word of mouth only, bring a suit, in my case a coat, and a tie and be ready to flash some cash.

From Athos' Trip Report Sampa 101: Guide to Sao Paulo for Dummies

Restaurant W - Rua Alvaradoa 550, Moema
This is a high end restaurant. Everything is word of mouth so no advertising. Currently the line up is made of young garotas from Porto Alegre. So expect natural blondes with green or blue eyes, brunettes with honey eyes. I would not call these girls iniciantes but they are definitely lower mileage so expect passionate sex with DFK and BBBJ. They also have a book if you need to bone a famous model but that will cost you 5000R.
Cover is 150R. Food was in the 30 to 50R per dish. Drinks were regular cost.
Every girl is 600R whether a 5 or a 10.
Range was 5 to 10 but mostly 8's. I could have picked 2/3 of the girls and be very happy while at Termas and at Bomboa I could pick at most 1/3.
Most girls are lodged by the manager and they are under strict rules. Do not speak of other places like Photo. Do not stay overnight with customer. Some of these girls are part timers or on Spring Break.
I picked a blonde who had done some modeling and sex was great.
So it is a more expensive option but if you like lower mileage girls, this could be your place.
Restaurant is very nice with wood ceiling. There is also a VIP room where you can have sex with girl but at same cost. I think married men who are in a hurry use that small room which has only a couch and no showers.
I went there twice and on the second night, was considered a VIP customer so they waived cover of 150R and drinks cost if I picked a girl and cover was only 100R if no take out.

There is another W on Rua Al Irae, 37 in Moema but I never made it there to my chagrin.

You may want to call ahead of time as sometimes they have private parties and then most of the girls may be hired to cover the party and selection will be poor on those nights.
5052-1647 Ask to talk to manager.

What are the hours for W? Thx

s

Senrab
W is for early evening fun. Do not go there before 21:30 but do not arrive too late either, I'd say midnight latest as by 1:00 many garotas will leave premise. Best bet is to arrive at 22:30 to give you couple of hours to make your move.
Drinks are on the house if you pick a girl so order some desserts too if you have a sweet tooth.
I would expect the line up to change on a monthly basis so this could be a hit and miss place. But expect young and lower mileage garotas, fake tits here and there, no tattoo and no piercing except belly button. The place is romantically lit, no problem checking every details on ladies.
The hostess is very cute too and will help you find a girl if you need help.
I did not know at the time, but after you pick your girl, feel free to make out with her. Garotas do not get picked daily so take advantage of it.
Some locals will go there for dinner and mingle with garotas but will balk at 600R price.

I think there is also a third W in Sampa but I do not know the address. Possibly only Brazilians are welcome. If anyone could clarify, that'd be great.

Athos,

Thank you very much. Your reporting has been extraordinarily helpful in navigating the waters during my first two trips. I would also like to compliment you on your taste in garotas--we definetely have similar tastes.

On one of the Brazilian forums there was a post to the effect that prices start at R600 and that "top notch" girls can go for as much as R1000 or even R1500. Yet, your report implies that there is only the R600 price "regardless of whether the girl is a 5 or a 10." Can you clarify?

I understand that there is a book of models famosa and semi famosa. Are the girls in the book the higher priced ones referred to on the Brazilian forum?

Also, one question regarding Bamboa's. Their website indicates that operating hours are from 4:00 pm on weekdays and 3:00 on Saturdays. Some of the posts on this board indicate that it is open from 1:00 on weekdays. Again, can you clarify.

Also, there are references on this board and others to an individual or agency called "jota" --website is apeg@webcable.com.br. Supposedly this individual or agency has a book of some of the finest and most expensive women in SP. I have written to them (in Portuguese) but have not received a response (perhaps because of the holidays). Do you have any knowledge/intelligence on the foregoing.

Finally, do you have any knowledge of the Estanplaza Ibirapuera in Moema? I know the location is good--I was just wondering if you know anything about it.

I will be in SP for nine days and intend to write a long report providing details on some of the higher end opportunities. Again, thanks for all of the info you have provided on this board.

s

Senrab, I spoke with Jota on the phone. He told me to send him an email and he would send me the book. But he never responded. Let me know if you have better luck. I would be curious as to what the book looks like in comparison to the garotas in Casa W and Photo. I look forward to your report.

Me too am looking forward to more info on SP.
Bomboa opens every day except sun at high noon. They have 2 shifts for garotas. Sat only one shift. Sun it is closed. They have also free buffet for lunch, they cater to business crowd, lunch, happy hour and early evening.
The W on Alvarado had a fixed price 600R. But maybe their rules change with the wind depending on garotas quality. Last month the lineup was 2/3 attractive, 1/3 what are they doing here.
Have you tried other W?
Never heard about Estanplaza.
I have no idea about the book of famous models but this is different than the models that used to be available at W.
I hope you can report on Jota. For my money I prefer young garotas over magazine models. It's just a question of opportunity in life.

W has a book of models. But I did not look at it. My buddy told me the manager mentioned a couple of models not in the book were available for 5000R. I noticed Silmara from Francebel was in the book, that's the gal I did on Saturday in my trip report who ended being very average looking. Angelica the gal I bar fined was in the book because she had done a layout in sports mag. Another morena who was working last month also in the book, she was no more than a 7.0 in looks. I don't trust photos at all, I much prefer picking garotas live. Plus models may carry some attitude.

AC and Athos,

Many thanks. I am going to track Jota down and figure out whether there is anything there.

Athos, "bar fine?" How does that work? R150 cover which counts towards consumption and then R100 on top of that for take out? Take out is short time is that correct? I assume that short time is in the two hour range?

I can't imagine the garota that would command R5000! For that she'd better have a platinum pussy. Pretty astounding! That's approximately 17 times what one would pay the most stunning superstar in Rio.

Anyway, when i am in Sampa in less than 2 weeks, I am going to make a huge effort to experience the so-called premium options and offer, at least my opinion, of whether it is worth it. I must say, however, that I would certainly be willing to pay more for a lower mileage girl. I think that screwing for money ten or more times a week has to affect a girl's psyche.....

Senrab
W is 150R cover plus 600R for garota paid directly to W upon exit. It's a restaurant so you get a regular bill and can pay with CC. No money gets paid to garota directly. Unless you drink expensive bottles, they will include drinks/desserts with cover. The garotas live at W at manager's expense so expect short time.
Looks like I mistimed my runs at Photo, I would advise to go there early around 22:00 to get the best of the crop.
I'll be interested to hear about your experience with Jota.
At W you pay for lower mileage garota, not necessarily for better looks. One of my sidekicks picked a loirinha 2 days in town, she did not know how to put on a condom. You can get gorgeous girls anywhere in Sao Paulo, Bomboa, Photo, free lancers, mp's.
I don't recommend MP's and Prives unless you're in the mood for a quickie.
Talking about garota psyche. My experience at Bomboa, garotas were lower mileage too. All the garotas I picked would rather spend time with me afterwards rather than chase other hooks. None were in a hurry to go to the cabin. In Rio in terma, this was the exception rather than the norm.
Photo garotas seem to be one hook a night, unlike Barbarella or Help where garotas chase multiple hooks.
The more I think of it, the more I like Sao Paulo...
Remember there are two or three W's, maybe you can try to find where the damn third one is located and whether gringoes are allowed.
You gotta a great mission, should be a lot of fun...

Athos,

Will keep you posted. I am pretty pumped up about this trip!!

s

Is W open on Domingo? Thx

s

Everything is closed on Sun in SP including W. By everything I mean any related hobby establishment. W is open Mon thru Fri only.

about Agency J, the "book" he has is okay. it just has a bunch of semi-famous garotas. i couldn't care less if they're famous, as long as they're cute.

there are some more exclusive referral only books floating around, so i'll try some out and post when i can.

The Kilt is open on Sunday, as well as a few massage places. Call the massage places first to see if they are open. Ask the hotel bellman for a hotel and club guide of Sao Paulo, or look at my 'Sao Paulo resources" here on CH. Sao Paulo Resources

Moondog

(Message edited by moondog on January 26, 2003)

Moondog
Did you go to Kilt on a sun? I am pretty sure all the mp's in Zona Sul are closed on Sun. Escorts are good resources for sun fun as well.

Yes, It is the only club that is open on Sunday.

Moondog

Moondog
Bacos in Sao Bernardo de Campo, south SP, is also opened on Sunday.
I also noticed Love Story located in Kilt area is opened every night.

Anyone has any current info on Jota's book or any other book of Brasil finests?

Athos,

Is Bacos similiar to the Kilt and other clubs, or is it more like Bomboa?

Moondog

Moondog
I did not go to Bacos on my last trip but it is same setup as Bomboa, opens early afternoon. Bomboa, Connection, Bacos and Miruna seem to be the most popular American Bars in SP.

Ok, thanks. I will be there one more time this month, and then again in March.

Moondog

Maria has the best book in Brasil. She's the woman that Arab oil barons call when they want 12 blondes from Porto Alegre/Curitiba shipped to the Mediterreraean for a sex party on a huge yacht (true story, no bullshit here).

But - she hand picks every girl, ranging from 18 year old college students, fashion models, TV anchors, secretaries, lawyers, even house wives. In fact, there are several books, which are so big they are carried in a luggage bag with wheels. She's only accessible on referral by existing executive clients.

She's quite infamous in the upper echelon of SP circles.

oh, and you can get a girl to stay longer than short-time at W. but it'll cost you 1000R. don't forget to toss in another 50-200R for cab + motel.

the selection at W will also be smaller than at other places like photo or bomboa. it could be much smaller on a monday for example, as there were only 10 girls when i went last. none of them doable in my opinion, but could have been a bad night.

Jarule
Are you saying you can only tease us with Maria? No telephone number or email?
I think it varies with the girls at W. My friend who just came back from SP has had girls from W stay overnight at regular 600R.
I can also confirm at Photo, girls were quoting him first $200 then 500R to 600R. I just don't see myself having any luck at Photo but will give it the old college try on my next trip.

i don't even have maria's phone number or email. i just happened to get introduced to her when a brazilian colleague of mine met with her to look through her books.

photo's really gone to shit. the new owners (2 brothers) trying to charge girls, charge for membership to a lame upstairs club, getting girls to pressure clients to go to their own motel blend, all make it a distasteful romanza-like experience.

Jarule
At this cost, I'd rather go to either W, less crowded and less BS.
Have you ever used Jota? He was supposed to have an oustanding book as well.
Photo caters to rich Asians and foreigners so gouging seems to be accepted.

yeah, jota is okay. he sends updates to his book via email, and it's wreaking havoc with my email account by hogging storage. most of his are semi-famous garotas, so you'll pay an unnecessary premium. i'd rather go with the non-famous ones, and get them young and innocent.

W has lots of asians too. about half the clients were asians last i went. bomboa, conexao, kilt, vagao are sometimes majority asian...it's unbelievable.

SP in general is getting quite bad in terms of price gouging. i've started to build a rather substantial list of phone numbers to cut through the bullshit. having a photo cell phone also helps to keep track of who's who.

I hate to say it, but I think Rio gets the thumbs up over SP in all the major categories now.

interesting factoid on W. there is another W as you guys may know, which still exists. but it is really not much better than the restaurante W, perhaps with even fewer girls. the only reason the other W is preferred is because it is kinda semi-private. you can get in, but they prefer people they know. it's because it's where guys like ronaldinho and famous people go to fuck with maximum discretion. most brazilians don't like it to be known that they fuck putas...although the stigma is not as bad as in the US obviously.

anyhow, there was a big spat and restaurante W was born. berto being owner, edson being manager. now one day Edson decided he wasn't paid enough and LEFT with over 50% of W girls and 60-70% of clients.

immediately edson's salary was raised and the stike was over. as they say, he who controls the pussy (and the clients) holds the power.

anyhow, don't tell this to people at W, cuz i know berto and edson personally okay bros?? REMEMBER!! don't tell them because i don't want them feeling bad. but thought you might find the inner workings of boate politics interesting.

Has anybody been to W lately? Just curious if the R$600 fee for the girls includes the drinks? Is the fee R$150 if you do not pay for the girl?

Thanks,

Moondog

That's still outrageous.

Yes, but I still want to try it once.

Moondog,

Hope we can sync time together in SP and hit W together. How's that sound to you? It has been on my list for long time but somehow I have not had an opportunity. Hope you would be my execuse

It's R$150 cover plus R$600 unless you're a repeat customer then manager might let you off the hook for cover. The best looking girls are sometimes R$1000.

Beto the manager lived in Oakland, CA so he speaks very good English. Girls live in house and are not supposed to stay overnight with customers.

Off2golf, planning February for Sao Paulo. Email me.

Athos, thanks for the info. If I could keep the girl for the next day, then R$600 would be fine. If it is just for a few hours, then I would rather go to Foto. I have to see it once though.

Moondog

i know i will have to try it soon. i would just love to be in a room with all 9-10's. i measure most places based on what percentage they have over 8.0 and there are always always a smattering of 5-7's. it would be a nice change of pace to be surrounded by 8.5 and higher. will they make out with you in the boate there?

Mitchc
No garotas want to give the image of high class ladies so no touching in the boate but in my short experience, you get attacked as soon as you get inside taxicab. The same girls work in POA at Carmen. There will be a couple of 5's but mostly 7 and 8 with rare 9.

Moondog
Garotas will give their tel number so you can arrange for second date outside club.

i will probably just stick with milenium and connection, etc... and save my cash. i do want to try photo though. hopefully that will be a leap in quality.

Athos, Thanks.

Mitchc, you will love Foto.

W is closed now. A disco has opened in the same
localities called Noctum Club. The owners who
took over W just after new years (Marcello and
Mauricio) are running Noctum Club, so maybe some
girls are available.

Many of the girls left W with Edson to
Jardim America. Beto apparently has opened a
new club too. I am trying to find out about
this club.

GK

GK,

Which W are you talking about?

Is it this one : Restaurant W - Rua Alvaradoa 550, Moema?
Too bad, it was on my schedule next month

The original owners of W at Rua Alvorada 550 sold
it just before the end of last year. New owners
took over (Marcello and Mauricio). The have now
turned the place into a disco. The other two Ws
at Alameda Guatas and Alameda Irae are also
closed.

However all three of the original partners in
charge of W have opened new places.

Washington has got a club called W Unico on
Avenida Chibaras 992, Moema and he has also got
a house similar to the W on Alameda Irae which
is now located at Alameda dos Camaiuras 169,
Moema.

Edson is now at Jardim America on Alameda Gabriel
Monteiro da Silva 479, Jardins.

Beto has apparently opened a new club somewhere
too but I don`t have the details yet.

GK

GK,

Have you been to the W Unico yet? Just curious as to the setup.

Thanks,

Moondog

W reopened during late March 2006 and is still located at Rua Alvorada 550 - Vila Olympia. The setup is different now. The fee is negotiated directly with the girl and you pay an exit fee to the club. The management is one of the owners from "the good old days" - Beto.

The other establishment is W.E. at Rua Peixoto Gomide 263 - Consolacao. This is the club that used to be the old W. The same girls and almost the same management. The club is an old hotel converted into a club. The old reception and restaurant area with a terrace outside is the club while the hotel rooms are rooms where you can take the girls. Some of the girls live inside the hotel. The presidential suite is on the roof with a swimming pool.

GK

So how are the GPs looking at these places?

Well, thats is matter of opinion but expect mostly Gauchas (girls from Porto Alegre). That means European looking women mostly blondes
and slender. Not the typical brazilian morenas with big butts.

GK

Sounds promising, thanks. Does this apply to the joint in Consolacao too? I usually stay near there when in Sampa.

GengisKhan
How many girls in the lineup did you see at W? I have not been there in 3 years. If you can negotiate price then W becomes a better option than Cafe Photo for high priced ladies.
Thanks

Riofan:
Yes, it applies to both places. Some of the girls work at both places too. W.E. has got a housing system where girls live at the "hotel" which is now rebuilt to be the club. These girls are exclusive to W.E. Other girls working at W.E. are freelance and some of these girls can be expected to be seen at W too. Prices are not negotiated with the girls in W.E. The prices are fixed. R$150 for minimum consumption. R$600 for 2-3 hourse in a room in the house. R$800 for takeout for 2-3 hours and R$1000 for takeout all night. Some girls are more.

Athos:
I would say there were about 40-50 girls at W during the night I was there. Including a really special girl that works very few hours during the year and used to be the owners girlfriend. She would not come down from R$500 pr. hour though so I passed on her.

GK

If I had to choose between the places I would go with W.E. because of more and overall better looking girls. The price is higher though. The owners are Edson and Washington. The original owners of the first W on Rua Alvorada.

GK

W Garden (W Bar & Grill/Casa W) is mentioned in 2011/02 Jaggerbowski - A "Safado" in Brazil