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	Archive 01	50		2005/10/08, 08:31 pm

Gentlemen,

I thought I'd throw a little humor into the discussion about spelling and punctuation. A friend sent me the following poem years ago, I hope you guys enjoy it.

“Ode to the spell checker”

Eye halve a spelling checker
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it to say
Weather eye am wrong or write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can putt the error rite
It’s rare lee ever wrong.

Eye run this poem threw it
Eye yam shore your pleased two no
It’s letter perfect awl the weigh
My checker tolled me sew.

i agree with everything solid808 said above (in fact i wish i had written it). the board is what it is, and everything that needs to be said about rio is here for all to read. other than updates to what has already been written, everything else on this board is just guys having fun. i love it the way it is and can't wait to read jaguars next report. guys like roblaw, etc. are very entertaining as long as people know to take everything he says with a grain of salt (although his help pricing info was on the mark in my opinion, he is not really breaking into "the real deal on rio" in the way he thinks he is) and if anyone has questions about rio that i can answer i will be more than happy to help. i love this board and can't wait to return to rio (although it will be a while before my next visit at this point).

Refund...hmmm. Does that mean payback??

I agree with those on the board, critizing someone for their english is petty and demeaning. The content is what counts.

Ok --> I like to kiss the girl I'm with. Can I do this at a terma sure and kiss the last three guy's dicks that have been her mouth that day.

I like to have her walk on my back, take a shower with me, dance naked, bend over the table, look out at the beach when I'm fucking her as the sun rises is a favorite too. Can I do this at a terma . . . NO!

I'm sure you guys like the fixed price, fixed time but that's just not enough "risk taking" for me. We've all herd the song the Thrill is Gone . . . well that's how it feels for me in a Terma, and I got to believe I'm not the only one.

Now you all are OK with putting your shit, like I am, in a tiny locker and walking around in a robe. I hate the robe thing . . . I'd rather hunt my prey in Help, the street of Rio or any other place like the gym or another disco.

For me a man who has very very high numbers of non-pros in his life under his belt, a terma just doesn't do it. I have NP with them and get dragged there with groups from time to time. And I got to tell you, if they were that popular, they truly would be jammed with guys for the price and they are not!

So you guys can say all you want about Help and a Terma. I know many guys who live in Rio that tell me thay don't even like paying for it anymore! And unless they get paid to go will not go to a terma.

I like a GF experience. It's my thing. I've done hundreds of one night stands in my life with no exchange of money and what I like about Rio is I can hunt down a 20 YO to have sex with, fuck her brains out, wake up the next day and fuck her again, cum five times if I want and send her on her way for between 250 and 320. She's typically thin, always young, blue eyes are my favorite, long hair is a must, sexy, passionate, and loves sex like lost Brazilians do.

Now if you think I can get that on a Terma without it costing me 2,000, let me know. Last time I checked a typical session at Cent was 330 on a CC, and twice that for an hour and a half.

After you speak some Port . . . try the agencies . . . at least you can keep em if you like em for 300 for the entire night.

As far as taking anything back in March, yes I let you guys beat me up then only to go back for 85 days in the next four months and then some time in the middle of my third trip I learned to cummunicate by litening to the first 50 lessons from Pimsler, after which I could really communicate to everyone I wanted!

After that, a different world opened up for me and the whores in Help, the guys making money off the working girls, how low life the termas are, except for Cent, how a girls of any substance would never step foot in Help or a terma; and one and one started to ring true.

I ACTUALLY REPEATED THE BRAP I LEARNED HERE TO OTHER BRAZILIANS AND GIRLS AND THEY THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY!!!

But you guys are right of course and college students work in the Terma and you can find a first timmer there and the girls can say no, and they never sleep with five to seven guys a day. Heck they are virgins when they walk into the Terma and most of them have only been there a few weeks.

I'm real and will take it on any time in Rio and you guys can take me to any Terma and show me the hot girls there. I'll even pay for anyone just to see that darn face when you walk in to 10 girls or less, in that dark small room, in a robe, and go up to the gilr with the super sized booty, which I know some guys like, but for me it's a tiny hard ass with rocket tits and hard nipples with low body fat and a mouth that can suck the chrome of a bumber and maybe bites, uses her nails, and turns sex into a damn workout . . . now that's a good time for me.

You are delusional if you think the "50 lessons from Pimsler" helped you "really communicate" in Brazil.

By the way.. usual disclaimer... any newbs here reading this.. please regard anything RobLaw has to say as bullshit.

RL>> I ACTUALLY REPEATED THE BRAP I LEARNED HERE TO OTHER BRAZILIANS AND GIRLS AND THEY THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY!!!


Maybe RL is the one outting everyone in Rio eh?

I understand that CH is a forum to express one's experiences and it's clear that these experiences are different depending on each guy.

Roblaw, I'm convinced that you truly believe in what you are trying to share with other hombres and whatever you do in Rio works for you.

If your goal is to let other hombres know that there is another approach to the scene in Rio, then instead of scattering all of your opinions on various threads, I would like to suggest that you could put together an your own "Online Guide to Rio".

And we can let other Hombres decide if what you have written works equally as well for them as it does for you.

IMHO Some Hombres enjoy Termas while other enjoy Help and some enjoy both. As long as you're having a good time and not hurting anyone, it's all good.

Hemp likes them BOTH

I like em both too, I think Ill take you up on your offer to pay for my terma run , so you can expose the truth to me , Ill be in rio oct 6th-11th

Keep an escort girl all night for R$300? Anybody else ever done that? I wasn't aware that was one of their offerings.

I've done some on the weekends when they were not working but that was strictly a one off deal between me and the girl.....and never R$300 for all night.

I know of two agencies that offer "Pernoite", Cassia Scort and Lindas Models. It is $R350. I have no idea on how many hours or what time.
CG

Ok, I cant help myself, I need to comment on this thread. I am a newbie just back today from Rio (in a bit of a daze). I cant be there, so I thought I would see what was posted while I was gone. Roblaw has been in Rio 10 times more than me, but most of my experiences at the termas I went to were fantastic. In fact, I spent the weekend with a girl I met at 4x4. What a sweetheart. As far as Help is concerned, had a great time there too. A different experience, but none the less, good. I think Roblaw also posted that you could not get a girl out of Help for 150R. Not true, I did and she was a hottie, which will be in my report.

Azguy,
You must be wrong. Roblaw says termas suck (especially the garotas) and hot girls in Help don't go out for $150. He must be right because he repeats himself over and over, ad nauseum.. I learned long ago that the more often a person repeats something, the more likely it is to be BS. Or, to paraphrase Gertrude (from Hamlet): "The boy doth protest too much."

In any event, welcome to CH and to the Club of Rio-Ruined Men. You are doomed. I look forward to your report, and hope to cross paths with you in Rio one of these days.

Bwana

BD,

A psychologist friend of mine a long time ago told me the following. If you see a behavior in the extreme, think of the exact opposite and that is waht is really going on.

RL seeks extreme validation from our community. We can only wonder why this validation is so important to him.

Will be back down there soon.

Azguy..soon enough you won't feel comfortable leaving on a trip to Rio unless you already have a ticket for the trip after that. (did that make sense?).

RL, Se você acha que fala português depois de 50 lições de pimsluer, você é idiota. Pimsluer não ensina nada. Nós entendermos, que você prefira Help. Por que você precisa para repetir isso mil vezes?

Abraços

K,

RL never got the book, so he can only speak/hear Portuguese fluently. He can't read or write it, and I would really appreciate it if you would stop making fun of this embarressing handicap by not writing notes to him in Portuguese.

My God, you try to be civil with Roblaw and he just keeps repeating how you are wrong and he is right. First he keeps telling me that I should be paying the girls in Help more (or insisting that I must be lying). Then he starts bragging that he get girls for free. Guess what RL - you aren't the only guy on CH that's picked up "non-pros" - in Rio or in the US. And WTF, can't a guy enjoy both the Termas and Help? I love them both - they're completely different experiences.

Again -- there are girls in Help for 150 but to assume that the girls themselves don't know their worth is rather amazing to me. Last two time I was there for 40 days each, the same girls were inside, outside at Mai and so on. It was low season starting from July to Aug and it was a tiny bit different in March.

I keep hearing about this one girl someone took out of Help as if that proves me wrong. Again the lower 40% will take 150 at times. This is typically late at night and they want to leave right after. You get what you pay for.

A girl who had spent 100 days inside Help knows her worth. She knows if guys are willing to pay 350, 300, 250, 200 or 150. If you think you're going to get something for 150 someone else paid more for sure anything is possible. If you're going to walk out with a girl in the top 20% for 150 no way.

The funny thing is almost no American even talks enough Port to understand or bargain. I never met him but maybe he exists. I did meet americans that speak the language and they don't even like paying anymore. As my friend who lives there says, "I live here and I have time on my side."

For a guy spending big bucks for a plane ticket, a hotel to think he's going to not be with a girl he likes becasue some jerk tells him here he went home with some girl in Help for 150 so I'm not going to pay more is crazy!

If you guys really know Help be honest here!

As far as language, the first 50 helped me communicate and once you communicate along with a good verb book (very important) you learn more rapidly. At 50 I put the tapes away and leanred from speaking and listening and watching TV.

As far as the Terma(s), it is a matter of taste. All I presented was an objective or subjective view point.

1. "I" feel like prey in roves with no cloths
2. "I" feel rushed and hurried.
3. "I" hate kissing a Terma girl -- mouth been?
4. "I" hate those tiny rooms
5. "I" feel like I'm really Fning a whore there
6. Everyone pays the same . . .
7. After I cum it's bye bye its' back to work

Now I know some of you say and these are just words that you can get her number and call her later. As is typical in Rio, a girl will give you her number but this by no means she will answer or return your call.

umber exchnage means something different in the US than it does in Rio . . I've been told but not certain this is not the same throughout Brazil.

Maybe I should just tell everyone how great it is and how wonderful 4 x 4 is. Now there is a little place down town for 60 reals you can do one of six to ten girls for an hour in a room with a shower and a so so bed in a like a studio apartment.

It's a long way to go though . . .

As far as a personal attack, it's not me that's attacking anyone. I'm sure you 20 or so guys, maybe even 50 love the Terma. Somehow I think I'm in the majority here though but it really doesn't matter. All I'm trying to do is give a view point.

Jefferson said in essence free speech and affording the disemination of ideas and thoughts was at the foundation of a free society.

The only person free speech hurts is the person with the other opinion. What I'm still trying to understand is why you guys here are so alarmed by me posting my view points?

Maybe business will decline and you won't get that freebie?

Hmmmm . . . why was it the four guys I traveled with, all with looks and some with money, hated the girls at the Terma and begged me to leave?

I repeated what I read here and said no thanks I'd rather find my thing out of Help or elsewhere.

Hmmmm . . . maybe you guys have been on the program tooi long and are becomming jaded?

Don't know and don't care but a visit to a Terma, the Villa and Help are all easy to obtain without a tour guide or anyone by your side.

No need to hire anyone . . .

I find it a little odd that RL has 0 trip reports and 0 photos posted of his 100 plus days in Rio.

Rob why won't you share some of your photos of your Help honeys with us. I know I have.

RG.

RL, No one here has a problem with you presenting your viewpoint. The problem is when you carry on like our opinions/experiences mean nothing. And if we have a different experience then you, then it must be that we are lying or doing the lower level GDPs.

Roblaw-

How many times have you visited a termas? You pay for the clock, not the nut. You can nut as many times as you want till the phone rings.

Why don't you share with us which termas you and your friends "all with looks and some with money" went to and hated it?

Rob Im not a big fan of 4x4 either, when I went It was like a labrynth , the showers / bathrooms were filthy , there were way too many people there , gringos as well as brazileiros the main bar was packed and the girls were definetly sub par compared to other termas but I probably didnt see half of them because they were busy fucking , there was barely room to walk when I was there ,so I didnt do much exploring , but monte carlo ,solarium , and luomo were all great times , centuras was a good venue also , but the girl I chose was a bad lay and I didnt think the talent there was worth the extra $$$ I like monte carlo on tuesday they have a special where you dont pay entry so its like 180 without drinks if I judged every terma by my 1 night at 4x4 Id think they were overrated too.

Larry-

I have had the exact same experience, dirty facilities with very marginal talent. I am told, and you may have heard or read this before, that early afternoon is the best time to hit that spot, at least for the women. I remember being there and having to use the facilities and there was no toilet paper in any of the restrooms I went to. I was kind of bummed out about the quality of the place. Maybe if you go earlier, they won't be out of TP.

CB

I posted this under Help because that's where my original post is located. However, since it deals with termas, I am also posting it here for you all to read.

Gentlemen,

To further clarify Roblaw's bizarro world, I would like you all to refresh your memory by asking you all to read the second and third paragraphs of his first post "The Truth about Help and Rio," which are as follows:


The Whore Houses:

Bottom line if you’re over weight, have no game, need extra room to accommodate your member, this is the place for you. Girls here have no choice. If you choose them, then it’s off to a tiny room for a one hour or less session which is typically rushed. Here's the clue guys: the price for all the girls is exactly the same no matter quality, time to finish, or ability in bed. So what's the game here? It’s get as many guys into that ten by tenroom as possible then get em out just as fast. The real funny thing is dance floor is dark, the rooms are dark, and the truth is there’s no telling what the faces really look like until it's too late! And then the girls get banged 5 to 10 times a day.

So if you want quantity, like to be road kill by some average girls and/or easy prey, then this is the place for you. It’s easy to rack up 2 to 4 girls a night for about 120 to 150 a girl. For me this type of scene did nothing. For the shy, weak and number hungry who just want to get their rocks off, this is it. And by the way, why would you kiss a girl at a whore house that has maybe sucked a few guys before you?



At one point during our conversation last night, he strayed off into a dissertation on various termas in Rio and how only the lowlifes go there. Since I wasn't with him the whole time during his first trip I asked him, "Did you ever go to a termas when you are in Rio last March?" His answer absolutely floored me, "No, I never went to one during my first trip." I let that slide because I hadn't read his post "The Truth about Help in Rio" in many months, but I was sure that he made some comments about termas in it.

I vaguely remember describing to him my first visit to a termas in glowing terms and I think he somehow took my comments and distorted them to produce the above two reference paragraphs. I will not, however, take responsibility for whatever he wrote; my comments were 180° from his.

RL if you want to pay whatever these hoes ask for at Help thats on you,but don't tell newbies to do the same.Those of us that have been going down for a while know what we can pay and get for our money.Trust me hot chicks can be had for less depending on circumstances.

Its always good to negotiate, some of these girls are just throwing numbers out to see if you will bite.I have had girls throw out a high number($300-400r) and then except the first counter offer($200r or less) without arguement, and Im not talking about some dog either.Don't let the hoes dictate what you pay at the end, when there are others that can be had for less.

Unless you want only the best and don't want to risk being rejected then go ahead and pay their price.One thing is for sure it does not guarantee that you will get your moneys worth.A lot of these high price hoes are in my opinion sharks and usually looking to make a quick trick and suckers out of naive dudes willing to pay what they ask for.

Hoes may call guys like me cheap, but they need me more than I need them.I have no problem leaving Help without anything.Thats why it's good to get some termas or other action earlier, so you wont be walking into help with a loaded gun(dick) ready to hit anything that comes your way,lol.I would rather pay a girl 150r and get bad service than pay $300-400r for bad service.Again from my experiences in Rio the money you pay does not nessesarily have any affect on the quality of service,in some cases your game,looks,race,lang skills etc may play a bigger part in that.

I will admit its not as easy to get hot girls for $150r as it use to be about 3 years ago,you might have to go to maybe $250r max( I won't).But if your gonna pay the high prices which today means over $100us make sure you are getting your moneys worth and get to fuck the hell out of them hoes for multiple fucks all night and she better be hot and provide a good performance,lol...Anything less than that is unacceptable..lol.(I have had all the above for less,numerous times)

Portuguese is good for the the overall experience and to help with better negotiations,but you don't need much language skills to tell a garota how much you will pay and wether she excepts or not.If you know where you stand you shouldn't have any problems.The only problems i have seen guys run into is with how much time and maybe services included etc.

RL, I can't speak about the other guys motives, but as far as Im concerned I hate seeing guys get had by hoes.Its bad enough we gotta put up with that shit in the states, but no need to spread that sucker behavior to Brazil.If you speak portuguese and really want to know what Brazilians think, try talking to some Brazilian men and see what they think about paying these vagabundas $300r-400r.They would think you were the typical foreign sucker.These hoes are not a good source of pricing info,thats like talking to the oil companies about fair gas prices these days in the U.S,lol.In the end you pay whatever you want, the important thing is to have a good time, but don't mislead dudes into paying high prices based on info from high priced hoes and your deep pockets.lol.

Anyways have fun and peace out...

For what most of us would consider good quality and good attitude, and say your planning on leaving Help around 1:00 AM-1:30 AM, a TLN should run around 200-225. I've paid as low as 150 and as high as 250, but target 200-225 and you're right in the sweet spot. If you can hold out till later, I would say for every half hour after 2:00 AM knock about 20 reals off of the price. Of course, at 4:00 AM, R$150 programs are readily available, but at that hour you'll most likely nut once and call it a morning.

Help prices haven't really changed much over the last three years, maybe 25 Reals more. I will say, where the price is up and quality down is the Terraco, and 3 years ago TLNs for 150-175 were pretty common, and that's leaving as early as midnight with a legitimate hottie.

Ee2002 - your post should be req'd reading for Rio newbies.