Yes it does seem the older guys have a better handle on it than we do...We are like little kids let lose with a new toy and dont know how to play with it properly...

Did you not see the pics I posted of the queen from Barbarellas?! that woman had to have one of the most incredible bodies ever placed on a woman. Don has brain washed ya...

I think we have ran the gambit on Rio...not even close to other places around brazil..but Rio..nahh its covered for the most part...the secret places you will have to tell us about after you have lived there for awhile...Also I assume the many new faces appear with the new season but I saw many of the same faces on both trips...

the sis back in the biz huh...hmmm..que isto!!

Dood/Layne87 - I'm almost beginning think that you guys might actually be human. I was fairly sure that Beavis & Butt-head had hacked into clubhombre but I'm not so sure now.

I think that your basic attitude that I'm in Rio for 1 week so I have to screw all the trophies that I can kinda makes sense on your first trip. After all, it is so unbelieveable especially for us Americans but by your second or 3rd trip it seems like you should at least try to get something more out of the experience. You can still get laid 3,4 ... times in a day if you want but you can get alot more out of the experience if you want. Learn some Portuguese and let these women help you grow beyond Tennessee/NY.

And besides, there are only so many trophies in Rio. As you will notice soon, the trophies know who we are as well. After 4-5 trips, you are going to start to run out of new trophies.

And along the same lines, I totally agree with you Dood that Centarus & Barbarellas are fine for Rio rookies but after a trip or two, one can do better without wasting the money.

That is just my 2 cents; take it for what it is worth.

Yt- B&B..good one...Dood your butthead ok...

As you might can tell I am quite bored as I am in Oklahoma city for 3 weeks...so having fun with Dood and Habana has helped past the time for me..I can only study my portuguese so much in the Eves...and OKC I have long since worn out years ago...so sorry for taking up so much space on the SA threads but it has been dead for a week or two with no one over there to entertain us with updates...

I dont know what you mean by getting more out of the experience than what I just went through...spend a week with a sweetheart trophy and get back to me YT...As a matter of fact..spend a week with Camila on your upcoming trip and let me see how you fare...I would approve of you as you seem to be a nice guy..

yes culture and language learning are great experiences in life if that is what you mean...

Ohh by the way ask Moondog if he still goes to Barbarellas?? He is hardly a rookie I think...but to each their own on that stuff...I will forever be a Barb fan because of wife #1. I know you are a terma fan and that makes alot of sense in many ways...

I agree with you on the trophy comment...it is why I am thinking BA might be a good next place until I can learn not to fall for these sweet girls because I keep spending too much time with them on repeat visits. Two visits and two wives who I like quite a bit...this trophy GFE thing has kinks in it..dang it...but hey I am still in my rookie year of this mongering stuff so lets see in a few years...

Ok Dood we better be quiet for awhile

Layne - your right the board has been very slow recently as the only one of us that has been Rio lately is Dood & he still has not figured out that there is an internet café on every block so he did not bother to post while he was there.

I know that you are a great guy. And I also I know that you are experiencing a lot of great stuff in Brazil but in most cases your posts don't reflect that (The posts recently have all been along the lines of doing my wife or doing your wife). Obviously with your relationship with Camilla, you've experienced all sorts of interesting things about Brasilian culture, things to do in Rio, and other stuff that the locals do. It would be great to hear about that stuff; those are great topics to talk about.

I definitely think that Centarus is way over-priced. I think that it is better to go to 4x4, Termas 65, or Solarium long before going to Centaurus. The prices at Centarus reflect that it was THE CLUB 10 years ago not where it is today. The talent at Centarus is the same as all of the clubs that I've mentioned but one isn't being screwed up front at the door for the reputation that the club had 10 years ago.

I'm more inclined to go to Barbarellas than Help these days. I also want to check out Franks and some of the other Lido clubs more as well. I think that Dood's point (which may or not be true) is that the talent at Franks is on par with the talent at Barbarellas so why pay extra for it. I'm going to spend more time down at Franks on my next visit so I'll let you know what I think about this.

And trash talk is fine as long as it is in a trash talk thread. In fact, I'll create a thread called Trash Talk.

heh heh..uh.. ok. I am cornholio!!! I need T.P. for my bunghole!

I agree on all points. YMMV, to each his own.. etc..

Youngtom, funny you mentioned that there's an I-net cafe on every block. This I know. In two/three months, there will be one more...

I was so busy, I really didn't have time to post.

Dood

Currently Rio is one hour ahead of Miami. The difference varies over the course of the year as Brazil has their own version of Daylight Savings Time (clock changes occur on different dates than the American Daylight Savings Time & in the opposite direction). So at certain times of the year, there is a time difference of either 1,2 or 3 hours.

Yo guys! I’ve been reading a lot of complaints about the quality level and pricing of garotas in Rio and SP lately and here’s my 2 cts worth. I am now based in Johannesburg, South Africa which has a price index and cost of living similar to Brazil ( along with numerous shanty towns and land disputes). The model babes here are comparable to the best the West has to offer. Imagine a young Christy Brinkley, Cindy Crawford or Linda Evangelista. Available here at $100 - $ 200 per hour. If you want details, ask and I’ll post some more. They have the same sun and sea culture and their bodies reflect this. Blondes and Brunettes galore and the trendy Xhosa women are perfect . All one needs are either a lot of cash or good looks. Having both will make you even more desirable especially if you’re white.
Still, I hanker after Rio. And SP.
Firstly, for the sheer passion, body and amiability of a brasileira. Can’t beat that. My experiences in Rio and SP are yet to be surpassed by anything here. I’ve also been to Thailand. In Bangkok I paid $200 per day for a beauty queen and boy was she beautiful! But I missed the ‘ safadinha’you get in brasileiras whether a beauty queen or not. My Thai beauty made the perfect companion for a lonely sexed up traveler and was skilled in bed but she was the wife who acts the whore inside and the lady outside. I prefer the partly dressed brasileira who grabs my balls in Zona Sul and asks to be licked there and then.
Secondly, as far as prices are concerned Rio is still the best value for money. The massage parlors here are the same price as termas in Rio and they cater to all fantasies but the girls are not that willing. In Rio any fantasy will find you a willing girl within minutes for the same price.
In SP a model will cost you $200 in Café Photo from 1a.m till 7a.m. In Jo’burg she will cost you $600 for an all nighter. In England $ 1200 – 2000 all night, same in France, in Scandinavia $ 1500 all night, in Australia $ 200 per hour or $800- $1400 all night but choice is limited. In Germany, Le Mirage which is a brothel, will set you back $150 for one hour without BBBJ or A. With will set you back another $50. In Singapore an all nighter costs $ 600 but the quality is low. In Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur has some great looking babes on the game but consider at least $100 per hour. And in the US, better leave it at $5000 for 3-4 hours. I had the unfortunate opportunity to ‘meet ‘ Keisha, porn star.
I don’t know if I’ve been convincing enough but guys, look at the alternatives. Does Brazil still deserve all that flak?

No need to ask, post all you got on South Africa.

Here's a link to get you started South Africa Discussion

Joe90 - great post.

In regards to "I've been reading a lot of complaints about the quality level and pricing of garotas in Rio and SP lately", my personal feeling is that there are alot of whiners in the world. As you point out, one can find cheaper venues but the women aren't Brasileiras; Brasileiras have unbelievable passion. No venue is perfect (even Rio/SP) but for various reasons, many Hombres develop a favorite destination (& their trip reports sell that destination very hard and they implicitly put down previous destinations) and then other newbies jump on the bandwagon & sing the praises. Rio is heaven- let the whiners go elsewhere. The quality in Rio is very high and the prices are very moderate/cheap. It is 9 days until I re-arrive in Rio & I couldn't be happier. Hope that we can meet up someday.

There are alot of great places to visit these days; I just wish that I had more time to do it

YT

yep...theyare all correct. rio sucks. best to go somewhere else. anywhere but rio/brasil. i volunteer to stay and make sure that nothing good happens ever, and will let you know if it does. i am sure that yt, athos, layne, ect, will help me with this.

tchau

I am going to guard you so that you do not use up all of the Garotas. Make sure that you save you vital fluids for something worthwhile.

I got your back Sonnyp...just hideous down there..even at 6'4", 250 I was robbed and beaten daily....

Layne87: We who are not 6+& 200+, do not take
any risk. My first trip to GIG, I had a driver
with a car from 6PM till when I decided. Same
was true this yr @ BOM/DEL

Joe90: Point well taken.

Oh yeah.. another warning:

My dick just fell off.. Stay away everyone!!

Dood..werent you sent to your little section a while back for acting up!?!

Citydude..I have your's also my friend..just hire me next time...

I must say I'm having fun reading the feedback to my post. YT, Athos, Layne and the rest, you know you're not gonna want to come back. Have a great time. We will surely go on a Rio trip together one day.
P.s Have started the South Africa post. Follow the link.

I will be in Rio for the first time at the end of May. I have a couple of questions. Has anyone had any luck meeting a non programma garota? I was planning to spend some time at the malls checking the scene out even though I heard the programma girls are working the food courts.
what do you need to bring with you if going to a Terma? They supply everthing you need?

thanks
ps I will file a trip report on my return.if anyone else is in rio in late May early June perhaps we can meet for a beer on ave. atlantica one afternoon.

If you know the language very well...do as you do in the states trying to pick up women..the malls have women that are extremely beautiful...I took Camila shopping and got in big time trouble for looking too much...but without the language you have got zero chance with a 10...

what to take to terma---money.

Dood and I will be there..contact Don he knows how to find us...

Pleebo - Layne's suggestion to bring money would just about cover it. It is okay to use credit cards in the termas. In case you missed it, be sure to check out the Rio de Janeiro/Termas thread - lots of good stuff there.

A buddy of mine (really) is going to Manaos (spelling?) shortly.

It's his first time in Brazil, and I've never been there, so I figured I'd go to the experts.

1. Has anyone ever been there, and if so can you describe the "scene" there (hobby and non-hobby)?

2. Any warnings or advice of overwhelming importance?

The buddy's going on a 'pure business' trip - get in, work, leave - for what that's worth.

Thanks in advance,


Dem Gnomes

Dem - I guess I would advise you to read the posts & then ask further questions. After you do that, I'm sure that you will get all sorts of advise from the various board members.

Manaos is in the Amazonia, tourist place with famous falls. Beautiful scenery, very cheap place.
Last night this garota was trying to get me to go with her for the weekend but with YoungTom and Kojak coming on Sat, and other garotas to play, no way. It's under 500R roundtrip from Rio.

Pleebo,
I'll be there the same time. It would be a pleasure to have a beer and perhaps go on termas run with you. Be in touch. I'm now arriving on the 27th.

Note the part in this news report about Brazil. The INS is concerned about the ever increasing amount of Brazilians that are coming to the United States on tourism visas and are staying indefinitely and are working in this country illegally. Based on the 911 'terrorist scare' (there are no terrorists coming in from Brazil), they are using the new rules also to limit Brazilians that they feel plan to stay and work. Currently for a Brazilian to obtain a tourist visa to the United States, they are supposed to prove
that they are gainfully employed in Brazil, have no police record, have permission from their employer to take a legitimate vacation and that they are supposed to return to their job in Brazil, that they have a bank account in Brazil in their own name, residence and telephone in their name (in some cases they accept family residence).

In the past, everytime the INS puts new restrictions (or raises fees) on visas to the United States, Brazil (and other countries) will put the same restrictions and fees on visitors to their country.

In reality, in most cases, the Brazilians working in the states - legally or illegally - run very organized communities and are well received in the local areas where they live.

In this same program, the INS is launching extensive investigations into the case of students, who technically come to the United
States to study in our universities, then work while they are here ... or 'drop out' of school and just work. Students will have to provide reports from their schools that they are 'full time' students and that their 'study or course schedules' allow little time to work. It has also been proposed that they provide 'bonds' in an amount sufficient to repay the INS for investigation and deportation proceedings against violators. Once 'deported', the student or illegal would never again be allowed to visit the
United States.

I have long supported the idea of an equal opportunity program between friendly countries like exists in the EU (European Union) .... where citizens of friendly countries like Brazil or Mexico could obtain simple work visas, as long as their main residence was in their home country. This program would work both ways .... Americans could apply for and work in Brazil if they so wished and were willing to accept the Brazilian wage scales.


I thought this might be of interest to some of you so I'm passing it along...

kenn, www.EZ-RioRentals.com

Indeed I have experienced some of the angry backlash of the Brazilian consulate in Miami over what they considered unfair restrictions on Brazilians traveling to the US. It becomes harder for us to travel to Brazil as a result. As usual our government acts in a stupid and short sighted manner and we pay the price. The message certainly gets through to me but I do not know how to effectively communicate this to my government. The INS does not seem to have our best interests at heart.

Salute to all of you guys from Brazil!!
I am a new comer on this board and I am planning my first trip to Rio for mid-June. I have a simple and naive question for you old veterans of the playground: as a pussysucking fanatic, I am wondering if it is sexsafe to lick a Brazilian pussy?? What is your opinion on this topic? Thanks for the tips.
Dcool

My teeth have not fallen out yet. Other body parts are still working.

dcool1
You always take a chance when eating pussy but garotas are super clean over there, best tasting pussy ever for me.
Terma garotas take a long time to clean up after sesssion. Help and Barbarella like to shower before doing the deed. Still always a risk.

You are probably safer with the termas girls in Rio than with any "regular" girls anywhere. they have frequent health checks onsite (each terma has its own little health office). If they don't check out clean they don't work. Girls that you pick up elsewhere have as much chance of being safe as women anywhere. The Brazilians are very clean. Personally I won't fuck a pussy that I won't eat. I've probably eaten over a hundred Brazilian women and I haven't suffered any ill effects yet. As far as good effects...they love it.

At terma Luomo, I was told they have on premise medical staff; Garotas have blood drawn once a month.

I have to laugh a bit about this topic (I don't mean to give you a hard time dcool) but i've been involved in a few boards over the years and the only country that anyone ever asks "is it safe to eat the pussy" is about brazil. I've never heard anyone say I'm going to Lima, Peru & I need some tips on muff diving. I'm just curious why guys ask this question about brazil but (it seems) not about other countries. I've heard about mad cow disease but I'm I missing something? Penny for anyone's thoughts.

as a follow up - how does the pussy taste in Lima? Like cerviche?

I don't know. I filet minon last time I was in Lima.

yeah but she was from Brazil was she not???

YT- I have no idea about questions around Brazil as I agree with Athos ..cleanest by far...They yell at you if you dont get your ass up to shower...before and after..

Anybody got a line on how to get ahold of those Seleccion Nacionale condoms? I'd love a few souvenirs, rabid soccer fan that I am. Email me (externally) if necessary, book_guy at yahoo dot com. Thanks!

Thank you all guys for the tips.
will definitely report on my brazilian kitchen survey

Hey Book Guy, I just came across some escort reviews you did on another board. TER. I think they were in Tampa. I was going to say Hi but didn't want to go through the hassle of joining the other site. It's always nice to see a familiar name in the gutter when you are traveling around on the Net.

I noticed in one post you mentioned both the DR and the FKK clubs in western Germany. Anything worth posting about either place? I've been to the DR many times but have yet to visit the Franfurt/Dussledorf/Cologne area.

FKK clubs will seem expensive after sampling Rio or BsAs, or SJO. Plus this year all SPs artifically increased their ates on 1st jan by just converting and rounding up from GDM/NGL to Euros.

Hello Hombres,

Got myself 5 weeks working in Brasilia starting July 15th. And reading all of this, I can't find much info on what, if anything, is available there. Anyone here have any experiences in Brasilia? Also, I am a first-time "monger" to Brazil. This site is dynamite for preparing me for what to expect. Thanks to all.

hey earl,

i'll be in brazil on the 19th of july and i have no idea what im in store for...anyway, can you guys give me a clue as to what kind of budget i should be on for a 7 day trip? is 1500 bucks good enough for all expenses including the women?

lemme know..thanks

Tipsylike23 - The hotel and daily expenses per day should be less than $100. That leaves about $800 for the ladies. You can meet ladies at Help for less than $100 per night. But if you plan to do Termas in the day and clubs at night, then you're going to need a little bit more. Keep in mind, the ladies usually stay with you for over night or at least several hours. Brazil is real reasonable, but there are so many beautiful women to break your budget. It will depend on your stamina. I would take more just in case.

Tipsylike23
I agree with Kojak. You're looking at 1.5 garota a day with this budget.

Brasileiras hum a certain tune when they do a striptease. I could never recognize the song and thought it was a Brazilian song. The tune is not the same one that American women ritualistically hum. In America there are a couple of songs women always hum. One is Night Train, but I can't remember the name of the other one.

The last time I was in Rio, a brasileira hummed enough of the tune so that I could finally place it. I think it's the theme song of the Pink Panther. Why the theme song of the Pink Panther?

Just a general comment and I'm sure that everyone will jump all over my ass for saying this but I was talking to another board regular & he raised the question of why so many guys seem to be using "guides". If one wants to get an apartment then you do need to go thru an agent to find a place. But other than that one doesn't need an agent for much in rio. Especially in terms of needing a guide to find action in rio, one really shouldn't require it. Between the Rio thread & the numerous great reports that have been contributed, my personal feeling is that a guide is not REQUIRED. The scene is very well documented ie. do a termas a day (pick almost any & you can't go wrong ; rio antigo is a little slow right now but other than that just pick a random termas - right down the street address on a piece of paper & hand it to the cab driver) & then for night time action go to either Help/Barbarella/Franks. Stay at the Debret/Rio Rioiss or get an apt thru Kenn/Donn & don't wander around drunk at night. Post something in the trip buddies section that you're going & then go to Rio.
You & your buddy (even if your both Rio virgins) will figure it out and in most causes, your buddy will have been to rio a time or 2 (or maybe only 15 times).

Youngtom,

I can understand your point now, but back in March when I made my first trip, it was quite intimidating. I had maps, diagrams, and all other info but I was still a little apprehensive.(those who have met me saw my "Rio fun guide in my PocketPC).

Traveling 5000 miles to country that at the time, I barely spoke 15 words of the language, didn't know anyone, plus all the reports of crime etc, I think it's in every first timer’s best interest to use one of the respected guides. I can only speak of Don, but sometimes you forget about things. He always checks the bill, makes sure the cabbies aren’t trying to screw you and makes sure you have the best possible time. After the “break-in period” and you get comfortable, you really don’t need it.

Next week will be trip number 5 for me in less then 4 months. This time I'm not coming home.

Dood

YT- you are right...my first trip I ended up using Don very little because the action is so EASY to find until I met the sweet Poliana and then I needed his translation services on a very fun double date...since then I use him for my apts and he is fun to hang with on the terrace and he is still darn handy for translation at a deep level most of us dont have yet....plus he has a few numbers for a slow rainy sunday if you dont...and don is not money hungry what so ever...Sure he makes money of the apts but what he does on the side makes him a step above the rest even for us that have been a few times...so what I am saying I guess in a runnnnning sentence is we dont use Don as a guide anymore we use him as a friend..

I know what you guys mean & can empathize as well. On my first trip to Rio (which was not all that long ago), I ended up getting an apartment thru Kenn and spent a number of fun evenings shooting the shit at the cafe in front of Help. Rio is kinda intimating on that first trip - I can remember arriving in Rio with my list of termas that I had culled from various web sites clutched in my hand (I think that list is one of the early termas posts). My goal was to hit them all - I failed on that first trip (I developed some favorite termas so I got distracted from my mission) but I vowed to return another day & finish the mission. Each time I go to Rio, I meet a few more likeminded termas lovers that I become buddies with.

Having a trip buddy or guide does help break the ice on that first trip.

dood - that is awesome that you're moving to Rio - great move; enjoy & keep us posted.

Dood
Are you going to look into opening a terma? I'd like to join you if you need some VC.

If you are a newbie, talk to guys at Help and Meaia, most tourists like to help each other.

Athos is right here...last trip had two guys off the plane who had no idea what was up..I gave them the quick list and they never strayed from Mea pataca the whole week...laughed my butt off every time I walked by they thought they had struck Gold...never hit one terma or lido club..

I had another two guys come up to me at the cambio and they were completely clueless also ...they were a bit smarter and hung with the crowd and ended up using don's apt services and our girls when we left..

So yes there will most likely be someone willing to help you there for free...