I know everyone has their likes and dislikes but I’ve never personally liked Terma’s. Simply based on the perception of being the 2nd, 3rd or the 10th guy in a girls shift. I once ran an escort agency here in North America and I was always amazed at guys that would come to the place for an “In Call” and wait in the lobby for their turn. At least when you meet a girl outside of a Terma you know in the short time you’ve been watching or talking with her, she hasn’t been immediately active. Sure, it’s nice to have a plenty of selection but I’ve never really failed to see the well dry at the local hot spots in and around Rio for selection, slow but not dry.

Is it guys that don’t feel they have enough game to negotiate with girls outside of set pricing? I’ve been to Terma’s with guys that I know do well outside of this environment so I don’t know if the fore- mentioned is true per say. From personal experience, I’ve always felt that a trip to a Terma ends up costing more than as if you negotiated an entire night at your own apartment.

What is it that draws Gringos to Terma’s?

Why do Brasileros go to termas? You make it sound as if termas are tourist clip joints or something. There are dozens big and small, and most of us only venture to a small percentage.

Back,

I personally prefer the termas, but that's a personal preference. But there is one really big reason why you and everyone else should consider the termas or the agencies. Downside risk.

You are right normally, you are paying more and you get really the same thing, except you are also paying for a room at the terma. But the most important thing is you are paying for the ability to leave peacefully.

Many very experienced members and novices alike have had very bad/horrible experiences when taking a girl back to their hotel/apartment. The girl goes nuts and starts trashing the place. The girl calls her boyfriend and threatens to shake you down. The girl steals money out of your wallet. These things do not happen at the terma, and if they did, you have recourse.

I like the terma experience. I don't limit myself solely to termas but I like the whole experience.
I especially like the fact you get some time to know the girl. I can tell a lot from a half hour of kissing and joking with her prior to taking my dick out and fucking her. Sometimes I can suck face with a girl in the terma and nothing, other times she has me rock hard in a minute or two, that's when I know its going to be fun, something other venues don't offer.

I like, make that love, the termas. No pretenses about why you are there, as BT states far less drama. I love the party atmosphere in the boate. I like the sauna facilities. If I do in fact like a particular girl, I am much more comfortable asking a T girl to spend the day at the beach or go to dinner and spend the night. Is it more expensive, per pop wise probably, but for me the perceived benefits outweigh the added cost.
CG

I have to agree with most of you. There is something very satisfying about the uncomplicated nature of the Termas. Not to mention the pure "professionalism" of the girls who work there. From time to time you get a "dud" who is inexperienced or just won't play along. But that's normally your own fault for not interviewing. Otherwise, these girls know what they are doing and are there to perform. There's absolutely no confusion about whey everyone is there.

Granted, you do have to get past the idea that you may well be #8 for the day, but that's why I prefer to arrive early. Get them while they are fresh.

Riojake.. I don't think even the famous Osanhana ( however you spell it, we all know who we are talking about) has done 8 sessions in a day. I think the busiest day for one of these girls is about 4, maybe 5, but your point is well taken. I have been at the door at 3 and 4 pm many times. I love it, no guys yet and you watch the talent start to stream in.

I didn't mean to insinuate that Terma’s are only for tourists alone. I’ve seen many locals stop by on their way home from work for the social aspect more than anything. I see the point of having the safety factor which some guys like or need. Although I recall a trip report from a few years back where a local pulled a gun on a Hombre member in the change room; since the guy was a local and a regular nothing was done.

This also brings up the other issue of quality of women guys choose. Having a girl go nuts in ones apartment may also have something to do with the way the guy presents himself. Some guys maintain the roll of the hunter throughout their trip, whereas I see many guys looking the part of the hunted in the land of vultures, we’ve all these this guy. I agree, these types definitely benefit from Terma security.

Roblaw, is that you?

Latinalover,

It's Ohanna, repeat after me, Ohanna! And now her little sister too. Aaah, more family adventures!

CFK

CFK do you really want to go THERE?

UH, no.............

Actually, I have done about all the family members (female) and combinations I am interested in. It can be very exciting for those of you with an interest. Having now experienced and filled those squares I will focus on other venues.

CFK

4 or 5 is a busy day for a top terma girl. That said, I do know one girl who did 8 over a ten hour period. She said it made her feel crazy and drew the line at 5 a day from then on

GP,
"She said it made her feel crazy and drew the line at 5 a day from then on".........

This is why I have cut back also, you have to know your limits!

#1 - Minimize Risk:

A termas offer minimal risk in getting a girl to have good sex with you. You negotiate what is you like beforehand and there is no direct monetary exchange of money between you and her. If a girl doesn't do what she promised, I immediately start to reach for the phone. 90% of the time, my expectations are met or exceeded.

#2 - The Concept:

What man doesnt love the idea of going into a bar with girls running around in bikinis all wanting you to fuck them. You get to kiss them, spank them, see everthing you want. You can ask them questions like "I want you to lick my ass" without getting slapped. As a man, I can't help but have a smile on my face everytime I open that door to boite as I enter in a bathrobe.

#3 - Fuck em, and leave em:

I like the company of women, epecially sexy young one. But, I don't want them around for endless hours. There has been so many times, I wish I could have just paid a girl just so she would leave. Termas are great, hang out, talk to a few girls. Fuck one, fuck a few. Then leave. They can't find you unless you want them to.

#4 - Pick up spot:

I met several termas girls I have seen outside. Some I never even sessioned with inside. And some I never paid, except the cost of entertainment. Probably some of my favorite Rio memories I had with termas girls outside the club. It would never happened without going to them in the first place.

#5 - Just hanging out with friends:

There are those times I have no interest in taking a girl. It is fun just to hang with some friends and enjoy the views. It is still fun and beats watching a novela or going shopping with a garota.

I personally like to see the garotas physique and with a freelancer, you just don't know what your going to get when the clothes come off.

My response is location and venue neutral. It is more a response to the "perception of being 2nd..." and "running the agency and being amazed at guys waiting their turn" comments and the additional "knowing the lady was not immediately active if one books outside" comment.

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 100th. If that is really a concern for someone, they are in the wrong hobby.

As a good friend of mine once said, "They are all virgins when they come out of the shower."

Even if you book outside they are still probably fucking their boyfriend, husband, or pimp before they come to see you. So you are still second that day.

As long as proper hygiene measures are taken between sessions, TJ ladies being the worst, Thailand and Brazil ladies being the best, it doesn't really matter.

Is there really a big difference if some lady fucked 5 guys the day before, but someone was first "the next day?" I don't really see the difference. Just seems like a mental or psychological barrier that really doesn't matter in the end if they are chasing prostitutes.

If being "first" is an important factors for someone, well, that is what girlfriends and wives are for. Not prostitutes. And even with girlfriends or wives you may not be "first."

dr.xenono.....wow!...i would vote for you as the club hombre master of perspective......and i thought i invented the saying ''they are all virgins after a shower ''.....and whats the story with the girl in your pad photo? she is a winner!

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Xenono

I don’t agree, being further down the line does make a difference, especially if you like to eat what you fuck. Of course, it rebounds back and can appear to be “Virgin” after a good warm shower. I laugh at the ole remark “If you could make tires outta that stuff Goodyear would be outta business”

Having worked in the adult industry, I’ve seen how women cover up for the fact that they’ve had enough cock, they will continue due to the greed factor but they won’t perform the same. I’ve seen some very large guys high fiven and acting like idiots during an afternoon at the Terma. These guys were trying their hardest to pound the crap out of each girl and damn proud of it, would you like to choose that girl ½ hour after those guys left? Do ya think the girls able to go home or say no? You know as well as the rest of us, she can’t so no without being fined. She will do her best Oscar winning performance to make money with each guy after the fact?

Have you ever had a woman say “Noa mais” due to being sore, I have. After a couple personal best Viagra marathon sessions, I'd pity the poor guy after me.

It’s not only the mental aspect of being near the end of the train, there’s also the reality of the human physical factor with the girl. There’s deli meat piled high on rye bread and then there’s that same sandwich after having Mustard spread on it and washed off hours later, take your pick!

I’m just saying...

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Back-

Where do you prefer, Help? Some garota who already fucked her pimp/boyfriend that day, went to the beach and had a session with some gringo, then went to help and danced her stinky, sweaty, favelada snatch around for 3 hours before she gave you a R$300 covered BJ?

There is a reason why you wait 10-20 minutes in the cabine for your garota...she is showering and cleaning up, swishing her mouth with mouthwash, etc...

Actually, at least at 4x4 and 65, a girl CAN say no if she doesn't want to fuck a guy. Absolutely no problems there.

Cincoleche - As always you seems to have summed up the issue nicely. Well stated.

Why I love termas..

1. I was in Solarium with a newbie who had spent many evenings and many thousands of dollars in San Francisco strip clubs. Priscilla got up to do her strip show and I watched the newbie's jaw drop. "I've never seen a strip show that hot," he said when it was over. During the show she had danced over to me, given me a big wet kiss, and then stuck her left tittie in my mouth. "The best part about all this," I replied, "is that you can now take her upstairs and get fucked senseless by her. Way better than a $200 handjob at Mitchell Brothers."

2. It was a relatively quiet late evening at L'uomo. There'd been a pretty good crowd earlier, but most of the guys had drifted off. Still, the girls were liquored-up and in a mood to party. I was standing at the bar next to Don, and Giovanna decided she wanted to give me a blow job. She pulled my dick out from under my robe and shouted "microfone!" and started doing karaoke using my schlong as a mic. Soon I had two other garotas taking their turns handling the mic. Lots of lip-to-mic contact made for a fun time. Don said something to me like "it's a good thing you're not shy."

3. I arrived at 4X4 assuming I'd fuck Luciana, who I'd promised I'd session with before leaving town. Luciana came up to me, apologetic, and told me she was on the rag. She felt badly that I'd made the trip from Copa to see her, so she offered to help me procure "a melhor foda na casa." She hooked me up with Rebecca, one of the sweetest GPs I've ever had the pleasure to know, in every sense of that term. Luciana came upstairs and joined in, gratis. It turned out she and Rebecca enjoyed each other quite a bit, but didn't neglect me either. Rebecca and I still stay in touch despite the fact that she's been out of the business for years.

4. For years I had the pleasure of: watching SweetMesquite fall asleep on the way to termas, and then fall asleep in the relax rooms of termas; watching girls order drinks using his wristband while he snored away, oblivious to the charges mounting on his account; and hearing stories from the girls of Sweet falling asleep in the middle of a program or falling asleep on the toilet.

5. I was pretty fucked out, on my third termas of the day, and little Mayara at L was giving it everything she could, but it wasn't going to happen. I explained the situation, but she felt it was wrong to take my money and not get me off. She proposed that I hang around the termas until closing time and she'd come back to my apartment. She did just that, and when we woke up at around 10 a.m. she gave me a fucking I will never forget. All it takes is a glance at Mayara's picture and I'm on the web, buying a ticket to Rio.

6. I was hearing stories from multiple guys about a GP named Debra who worked at MC. Several guys I respect said that she was unequivocally the best fuck they'd ever had. I also heard she was leaving the business. Don confirmed that she was in fact leaving MC the next day and marrying some guy from NYC. Don offered to call Debra and see if she could squeeze me in. She said fine, so Don described me and told her I'd be right over. I arrived at MC at about 10:00 and found the bar crowded. Two guys sitting at the bar were arguing over who was going to go upstairs with Debra when she returned to the boite. Both were apparently repeat customers, and both realized it was their last chance. Debra rolled into the boite at about 10:30 and made a beeline to me, grabbed my hand, and started to head upstairs. The other two guys started screaming at the tops of their lungs, but Debra silenced them with a stare and said "I fuck whoever I want." It was, indeed, the most amazing fuck of my life. The mirrors in the room were completely steamed over by the time we finished, which was well after we were supposed to have finished. When the phone rang, Debra literally ripped it from the wall and said "this is my last program. I decide when I'm done."

7. Camila (L), Gleice (4x4), Diana (L), Sula (4x4), Debra (MC), Brisa (L), Bianca (65), Rebecca (4x4), Lohani (L), Capitu (4x4), Aline (Cancun), Valera (4x4), Joycee (L), Aline (4x4), Shayla (L), Juliana (S), Karen (L), Rafaela (S), and a hundred other termas GPs.

Camila, Deborah, and Rebecca (you can all add names to the list--like Bia) were, relatively speaking, high-profile gdps on this board who married gringos. How are their marriages doing? The last page on their marriages have yet to be written, but, so far, how are they doing? Are they proving to be the exceptions (or not) to the rule(s) that are mentioned here over and over about gdps and their inability to get out of the biz? We all know of examples of gdps getting divorced (or not) and continuing with their past lifestyle, but are the above mentioned marriages still going strong? If so, why? Does it come down to the individuals or circumstances or what? The above mentioned were termas women--does that make a difference and why would working in termas matter?

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Camila's marriage seems to be solid as solid can be. She has two kids, the couple has a very nice home in Brazil, and lots of us still see her and the hubby regularly. Rebecca has a nearly one-year-old son, is married and living in Spain, and seems happy, but as you say, only time will tell. I can't give an update on Debra.

Some women work as putas and some women are putas. I've known enough GPs that I feel like I can tell the difference, but I may be deluding myself. Sometimes you can get a sense of the character of the girl after awhile, if you can interact with her outside of where she works, watching her interact with friends and family, and so on. Camila and Rebecca worked as putas but were not putas. I didn't get to know Debra, so I have no idea. Danielle, another famous one who worked out of Help for a while, was an absolute puta, banging guys after she was married and even while she was pregnant (I was one of those pervs). She was from the beginning very immature, self-centered and, well, stupid (but beautiful and a good fuck). She was never capable of having a real relationship with anyone, and her focus was always the money.

there is tons of ass there, you dont have the risk of grabbing someone who looks far better in their clothes than naked, and what else are you going to do at 6pm?

BD, what did Danielle look like / how old is she? My 'Outside Help' pic posted here was a Danielle - my first night ever in Rio...completely hot but couldnt agree on a rate, have kicked myself ever since

This pic was taken about a week after Danielle's 18th birthday. She was pretty new to Rio and had been on the program for just a few weeks. Didn't speak a word of English, and while sweet, was dumb as can be. We had dinner at a place in Ipanema, went to a music club to hear some bossa nova (her choice), and then broke the bed frame in my room at the Arpoador Inn.

Photo: Danielle 01

This pic was taken about a week after Danielle's 18th birthday. She was pretty new to Rio and had been on the program for just a few weeks (she jumped the gun a bit; I did not!). Didn't speak a word of English, and while sweet, was dumb as a post. We had dinner at a place in Ipanema, went to a music club to hear some bossa nova (her choice), and then broke the bed frame in my room at the Arpoador Inn.

Here she is almost exactly a year later--married, slightly pregnant, and still on the program! Hubby was a monger from Arizona. She complained about what a cheap bastard he was--he bought her a cheap car and wouldn't get her a 2-bedroom apartment or pay for a maid. Some guys will never figure it out.

Photo: Danielle 02

bwana...how can you be ''slightly pregnant''? is that like a little bit pregnant?

OK JR...pregnancy is a binary state, you are or you aren't. She was 2 months pregnant and just starting to show a little bulge. She was still selling her ass when she was 5 months pregnant and obviously showing quite a bit. I declined that opportunity, preferring to bang Patricia (formerly of Rio Antigo), who was post-childbirth and lactating like crazy. That was one messy fuck, but those tits, which were amazing to begin with, were otherworldly. I failed to mention Patricia in my list of T girls above. My bad.

just playing with you bwana...she is gorgeous!!JR

Wow! Wish I had met Danielle! Those breasts look like they were amazing!! Whatever happened to her?

It would be interesting to see what she looks like now. I think her photos first showed up on Hombre back in 2002.

So she was married and pregnant? I wonder how much that is costing the guy from AZ now?

RG.

You will find 3 other pics of Danielle in the galleries under my nic from before I stopped taking pictures. Jepp, she was sweet as hell, 150R 2hour afternoon sessions very well spent. Layne probably got a book on here..

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Danielle showed up in Rio in March 2002. The first pic I posted was from May 2002, the second from May 2003. She seemed to disappear after she had her baby. I haven't seen her since Oct. 2003. I don't know whether she made it to Arizona (her goal) or not. Layne was certainly familiar with her as well. Layne knew every puta in Rio with a grade A pair of tits .

Anyone here who has done her bigger sister? She both looked and acted as real puta, runs in the family I suppose..

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the great cheap full body massages you can get in termas.

Nothing better than walking through Rio on a hot day, going into the terma, getting a nice refreshing shower, mingling with your friends and frolicking with the gals drinking your favorite drinks, then going to a cabin and getting laid , then kicking back in the relax room having a smoke. Then if you feel up to it, do it all over again, if not, then it's time for dinner anyway.

My typical afternoon when in Rio.

Actually, doing that for less than $300US would be better and that smoke in the relax room is no longer possible, I believe.

Or maybe it is. On Wed. a preliminary decision was handed down by the Justice Tribunal in Rio staying the implementation of the new law.

This thread is making me all nostalgic. Not only reading about the Luomo all stars from five years ago, but hearing from habana whom I met on my first trip in 2002. Do you still make it down to Rio?

My favorites from Luomo were Camilla (of course), Rafaela, Sara, Lohani and Kathleen. When I get my first time machine Im going back to L in 2002. Bwana's list of favorite things about termas kinda sums it up for me too.

Holy nostalgia..

My first trip to rio was in March 02.. right at the peak.. I have pictures of all the famous ones..

Oh well, I'll be back in the end of September to make some new memories.

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