By Camaro1257 on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 06:36 pm: Edit |
Gentleman, I just returned from a 7 day excursion to Dominican Republic. I did 4 days in La Romana and 3 days in Bavaro-Punta Cana. I will complete 2 separate synopsizes on both destinations. Below I have listed my notes on the Bavaro-Punta Cana area for your review:
LOCATION
Punta Cana
Punta Cana is probably the most popular tourist destination in the Dominican Republic. For this reason the Punta Cana International Airport is the busiest in the country. There are approximately 50 resorts in the area some of which employ as many as 2000 people each. It is a major destination for a variety of tourist including golf lovers. I was impressed to see the landscaping next to the highways better kept than most in the United States and the Dominican Republic is a developing country right? Of course the area is known for its beautiful beaches where the sand looks like powdered sugar and flows seamlessly into the crystal blue water. It put me in mind of one of my first trips when I stayed at Playa Dorado in Puerto Plata and I can say there is no comparison between the two beaches Punta Can wins hands down!
Cap Cana
Cap Cana is Punta Cana on steroids. There are resort complexes and condominiums there as well as Punta Cana however Cap Cana is the best that Dominican Republic has to offer it is home of the very rich. The high light of the area is Marina Cap Cana, it is the Miami Beach of the Dominican Republic. I saw a small fleet of million dollar yachts which was an awesome sight to behold. Donald Trump has had his hand in much of the commercial development of Panama City likewise he has been involved in this area and it was obvious to me by looking at some of the architecture.
Bavaro
Although Punta Cana was developed first Bavaro has grown to develop larger vacation resorts. Bavaro is about 20 minutes from Punta Cana but it is considered to be part of greater Punta Cana. The area of the Hotel Flamboyan is only a small area of Bavaro and it does not represent the diversity of the area in its entirety. Although there are locals who live in the above listed areas most of the vacation resort employees live in Higuey which includes thousands of people. It's incredible to think of the scale of the tourist industry here literally tens of thousands of people rely on tourist dollars to eat.
LODGING
Hotel Flamboyan (CH Link)
Hotel Flamboyan is in Bavaro about 45 minutes from La Romana. I arrived to find KAYAK jacked up my reservation and my room wasn't ready. After waiting for 30 minutes I find I only have 1 towel I hope this is not an omen of what is to come. The WIFI signal is strong and the cable works well. The hotel has old fixtures but the room is neat and clean.
Hotel Cayakoa
Hotel Cayakoa is a cabana style hotel just a few steps from Drink Point outdoor venue. A room is 600DOP for 2 hours for short dates you do not want to take to your hotel.
LA COMIDA
Dguerrero Mini Market
Dguerrero Mini Market is at the corner of Hotel Flamboyan it doesn't have much of an inventory but I only needed snacks and drinks for 3 days so it had to do. I can easily walk there and back in minutes.
• Desayuno
Hotel Flamboyan serves a free breakfast in their downstairs restaurant. I had salami toast and ham and eggs along with fruit punch. It was no Rocky's but it was a start to my day.
• Almuerzo
Delicias Bavaro is one of the restaurants that is next to The Drink Point. I had pescado (Butu never heard of that type of fish before) with ensalada for 350DOP. The fish was fried hard but the flesh was flaky and tasty on the inside it just wasn't enough food.
• Cena
Pizza Pasta Grill is also located next to The Drink Point. I had Pinchos a La Plancha which was grilled cerdo, pollo y vegetales on a stick along with potatoes and pizza bread and tomato sauce. I paid 350DOP and this has been my best meal of the trip. The vegetables along with the pork and chicken on the stick went well and the meat was very tender and succulent...muy sabroso!
CAMBIO
One of the best places in the Dominican Republic to get the best exchange rate is at Western Union however there was no Western Union in the immediate vicinity of Hotel Flamboyan, however there were a few casas de cambios within a 5 minute walking distance from the hotel. The exchange rate in the casas de cambios was 42-1 instead of the 42.6-1 that Western Union was offering.
SEX VENUES
Las Casas de Citas
I do not have the exact addresses of these casas there were no buisness cards available. They were between Bavaro & Punta Cana off the main road Via El Corral in the area of Plaza San Juan which is one of the major shopping centers in between Bavaro & Punta Cana.
• La Conejitas (CH Link)
The girls come out smiling and pose there is no formal introduction just their informal presentation. All of the women were 8's and very desirable. The tarifas are as follows:
$200.00 ST in house for 1 hour
$300.00 Take out for 3 hours
• Blue Light (CH Link)
The girls come out smiling and dancing there is no formal introduction just their informal presentation in dance. All of the women were 9's these were literally the most beautiful women I have ever seen in the Dominican Republic! The tarifas are as follows:
$150.00 ST in house for 1 hour
$300.00 Take out for 3 hours
• Le Petite (Jazzy's) (CH Link)
The girls come out smiling and dancing there is no formal introduction just their informal presentation some were topless and all partially pulled their panties down to give you a peep. All of the women were 8's and attractive. The tarifas are as follows:
$200.00 ST in house for 1 hour
$360.00 Take out for 3 hours
All of the chicas presented themselves in sexy lingerie in varying colors. The presentation was very enticing however I would not pay 3 times what I would pay in Sosua despite the fact all the women I saw were absolutely beautiful. For me it wasn't the money it was the principle. Does $150.00 sex feel better than $35.00 sex? All I could think is what if she was fire in her presentation but ice in bed? Then I would have thrown away $150 or $200.00.
Steve's Bar (CH Link)
Steve's Bar is an open air bar a 5 minute walk from Hotel Flamboyan. It has several tables that surround the bar. I walked by several times conducting surveillance and I saw the men out numbering the women 3 - 1. The men were all white makes who looked like biker types. It is one of the most famous meeting places for PFP in Bavaro.
Drink Point (CH Link)
The Drink Point is an outdoor bar with a metal roof within 1 minutes walking distance of Steve's Bar. The Drink Point differs from Steve's Bar in that it has a more contemporary appearance and it is larger with the ability to seat more people. The traffic reminded me of D' Latin's Sosua with the exception of the white female tourist that were present and the Sankie Pankies and their clients. There were couple there also along with the working girls. The Drink Point has the same feel as D' Latin's in addition it is totally open air as opposed to being partially open air like D' Latin's was before the windows.
The atmosphere was alive and festive and the DJ played a good selection of Reggation, Top 40, Hip Hop and Bachata. The crowd was alive and dancing. Two Politur officers stood on the street watching the action so I felt safe. It had been raining with a slight mist so the weather was cool and very comfortable.
Escape Biker Bar (CH Link)
Escape Biker Bar is in between Hotel Famboyan and Steve's Bar it has an open air front that faces the street with chairs on the outside and chairs and tables on the inside.
NORMAL VENUES
Mangu
Mangu is the night club in the Occidental Grand Hotel complex. The complex is approximately a 10 minute ride from the Flamboyan Hotel. Mangu put me in the mind of Classicos with a bunch of tourist. The club was packed and I may have seen 4 or 5 local chicas. There is a 500DOP cover charge and the music was mostly techno which understand they were catering to their audience but of course I can do without listening to electronic music. There were 4 VIP seating areas that were roped off so mere mortals like me had to stand around the large dance floor.
Although there appeared to be some PFP there IMHO it is not an attractive venue for PFP because the music was too loud and the chicas had to pay 500DOP like everyone else therefore I am sure that cost is factored into whatever tarifa you pay along with the transportation cost the chica incurs because of the venues location. IMHO the venue is best for a date and not for PFP.
Oro Night Club Punta Cana
The Oro Night Club is in the Hotel Hard Rock Casino. I have been advised it is similar to Mangu except it is on a much grander scale because it is part of a larger complex and has a casino. I was also told that the majority of the patrons were tourist just like Mangu with a few high priced PFP chicas in play. I did a cost analysis of obtaining real time intelligence on Oro Night Club as follows:
Transportaion both ways from Hotel Flamboyan
• $50.00
Cover Charge
Unknown exactly but for arguments sake I will add 500DOP like I paid at Mangu
• $10.00
I cannot imagine being able to get a chica or less than $100.00 maybe as high as $200.00 like the casa de citas I visited. The reasons are the venue will be thick with tourist who have money to burn in addition to the transportation cost of the chica and the cover charge if she has to pay one.
• $100.00
It was my intention to experience the Oro Night Club before I left however the transportation cost alone has made up my mind for me. It makes no sense for me to spend $50.00 to see a bunch of tourist getting drunk and doing the snake on the dance floor like I saw at Mangu. Therefore I spent my last night at the Drink Point and see what kind of fish were swimming.
CASINOS
• The Princess Tower Casino is around the corner from Hotel Flamboyan a 3 minute walk. The casino has a disco inside and every time I checked it was empty.
• The Hotel Flamboyan also has a casino that appears to be closed. In addition the same complex contains a night club that was always empty every time I walked by.
BAVARO OBSERVATIONS
• My attire when I travel is generally a t-shirt or golf shirt athletic pants and gym shoes. When I was in La Romana I fit in and got very few side eyes but in Bavaro everybody knew I was a tourist. I dislike the feeling of being a tourist it is like you have a target on your forehead. For this reason amongst others I preferred my stay in La Romana over Bavaro.
• La Romana is a tourist town just like Bavaro however when in La Romana unless you are close to Casa de Campo you do not get the tourist feel or experience. Bavaro is a tourist town that feels like Sosua on steroids where the chicas are less attractive than Sosua and cost more. With the exception of the model types at the 3 major casas of Bavaro the chicas de la calle were a step behind the chicas de la calle in Sosua in terms of looks and quantity, especially quantity.
• During my stay there were too many tourist and too many men that took away from my experience. At least when I am in Sosua if there are many mongers on the ground I have never seen the number of men outnumber the number of women.
• Both Hotel Olimpo La Romana and Hotel Flamboyan Bavaro were in excellent loctions for PFP action because they were "girl friendly" and you could reach the most popular venues within 15 minutes at each location. Both hotels had internet connectivity problems where the WIFI would go out for short periods of time and be restored.
• Bavaro was on my "bucket list" now that I have been here I can say "been there done that bought the t-shirt and the hat!" I would not return unless there was an ISOC invasion or if for some reason I decided to bring sand to the beach. In my opinion Bavaro is for tourist it is NOT for people who are serious about getting to know the DR. IMHO you cannot go to 6 Flaggs amusement complex in Atlanta and think you have experience Atlanta furthermore the diversity of the entire United States, likewise the same principle applies to the Dominican Republic.
• The contrast between Bavaro and Cape Cana - Punta Cana was enlightening that was real money. I remember one of my early trips to Boca Chica seeing yachts on the pier side of the beach but what I saw was nothing in comparison to what I saw at Cape Cana. The contrast helped me to realize how important foreign dollars are to the Dominican Republic for without tourism and foreign investment many people would starve. It's one thing to read about it but totally different to experience it firsthand.
ANECDOTAL LESSONS OF THE TRIP
This trip has enforced the idea that I absolutely HATE haggling over money because it ruins the vibe with chicas. For me I need to find what the tarifas are for that market then offer that amount to the chicas I am interested in. For example a fair tarifa in Sosua for ST is 1000-2000DOP depending on the time of day. Conversely in Bavaro it would be 2000-2500 and maybe 3000DOP if you really wanted the chica. This trip has taught me the concept of the market value of toto.
By Latinalover on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 08:09 pm: Edit |
I'm confused, (as usual) you spoke of prices in the 200 to 300 usd range in the body of your text which sounds very high for the DR, then speak of 3000DOP at the end of your post, which shakes out to be around $70 for an all star. Can you clarify?
By Camaro1257 on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 10:14 pm: Edit |
Latinalover sorry for the confusion. The major Bavaro-Punta Cana casas quote prices in dollars and take credit cards. The peso reference was to the strip in Bavaro from the Drink Point to Steve's Bar and Escape Biker Bar. In short the major casas want dollars and the sex venues in Bavaro with freelancers want pesos.
By Camaro1257 on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 10:18 pm: Edit |
Latinlover you are correct about the prices in the casas however many cost in this region are inflated because it is the primary tourist destination in the Dominican Republic.
By Thumper on Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 03:04 pm: Edit |
Are guys really paying 200 dollars for one hour? Or is that the inflated "gringo" price? Is the real price 2000 pesos, but they have the gringo price listed on the wall and quoted by managers?
By Camaro1257 on Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 05:48 pm: Edit |
Thumper the prices quoted in dollars were the prices in the casas that were away from the strip in Bavaro. When I was in the casas I was one a few so I have no idea who is paying for what as I sure wasn't paying it. The prices quoted in pesos was what I found on the ground in the strip that surrounded Hotel Flamboyan.
By Lovingmarvin on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 11:01 am: Edit |
Interesting report. I have taken two trips to Punta Cana, once with my significant other and a group of friends and a second time from an ex-girlfriend I flew in from Brazil (GOL Airlines). I was always curious about the scene there, since I heard it existed but most of the close by town scene did not really look all that attractive once you were out of the resort itself. Not sure I would go back there again either way, but thanks for the interesting report.
I am actually heading to Puerto Plata tomorrow for a long weekend with another Brazilian (Married to a Gringo in another state, but I knew her back in the days of her being a Puta and kept in touch). More on that I will post next week. I like the Puerto Plata all inclusive resort scene a little more, as you can easily drive to other fun places like Sousa and Cabarete. Obviously P4P won't happen, but I know from my experience with this girl that I will be completely drained anyway.