After the girls left, I started to think about how I was going to begin my adventures in this beautiful country of Thailand. After getting fully dressed, I walk around the grounds at the Villa and was very impressed. After a little bit of walking, I walk into the Community pool area and decide to eat a little breakfast. It appeared they had a complimentary breakfast buffet set up....so I just helped myself. After eating, I left the waitress a little tip. (5 baht) She smiled from ear to ear and repeately thanked me in Thai.

I knew they had baht busses to take me into Pattaya, but I didn't feel too comfortable about using them right away. With this in mind, I decided to use the limos that were available to us at the Villas. I told them I wanted to do a little shopping a few hours....I was kind of hesitant to tell them I wanted to eventually go to some go go bars. They had a selection of vehicles available....Nissans, Vans and even a Mercedes. I opted for the Mercedes at 1000 baht an hour. My driver was very cool. He was a young guy and the only driver that spoke any English. He thought I was real cool and indicated that he was going to show me all the hot spots in Pattaya. But before he got too carried away, I told him I had to do some shopping....then I wanted to stop my the Classroom go go. He told me that he never been there, but he could find it by the address I gave him.

Here is a couple pictures of my driver/car.




After finally making it the Classroom Go Go, I was kind of excited about actually seeing a go go bar for the first time. It was only 2 pm, so Classroom was one of the few go gos actually open. As we drove thru Pattaya, it was kind of nice to see some of the places I heard so much about...specifically, the Penthouse Hotel. It was very close to the Classroom go go.

The driver lets me out at Classroom and tells me that he was going to find a place to park and also leaves me his cell phone number. I walk into Classroom and only about 2 or 3 guys were sitting at tables alone. I kind of glanced around and thought the place looked kind of nice, nothing special. The hostess guides me to a table that was near the stage, which had about 5 girls dancing...as if they didn't have too much energy. I request a bicardi/coke and then all of sudden, I see Nut across from the stage. Her eyes become real wide open and she runs over to me and just starts hugging me and kissing me. I couldn't believe how shock she was to see me! "You don't lie....you come to bar!".

She goes on to ask me a million questions and then I try to tune her out and look at the rest of the eye candy in the bar. It almost looked like every girl in the place was staring at me! The other girl, Pu, strolls over and sits at our table. I offer to buy them both lady drinks. Within a couple more minutes, about 4-5 girls all start to crowd the table. I really start to enjoy the place.....and as luck may have it.... it was Nut and Pu's turn to go on the stage to dance. "Yes....freedom". They both dance but continue to guard me with their eyes....as if I was their property. "Fuck this"....I start to mingle with the other girls. I start talking to this one girl....who didn't speak too much english and appeared to be a little older than most of the girls in the bar. We had a real good conversation going....that is, until Nut comes off the stage and literally sits right between us. Now....I'm starting to think, I cannot let this go on OR I will be stuck the rest of this trip....no way!

I decide to come right out and tell her how I felt. I whisper in Nut's ear and tell her that I like this other girl sitting next to me and would like to barfine her. I ask Nut to translate for me. She pouts and acts like she was upset and then tells me "NO". I whisper back...."YES". We go back and forth and then she tells me....okay, you barfine both us and you pay me nothing!

Photo: Nut & Nang at Classroom 04

Now....this was a tempting offer, but I really did not want to do a dupla so soon. I do not immediately respond to her offer and continue to drink. Nut starts talking to the other girl, Nang, in Thai....now both of them are begging me to barfine both of them. I give in eventually! I thought...What the hell!

We all fooled around at the bar a little while longer and finally left around 6:00 pm. We walked down the street to a restaurant that is right across the street from the Penthouse Hotel. We all order and I thought the food was pretty good. I ordered a steak and shrimp platter and I think the total bill couldn't been no more than $20 US dollars for all of us!

After we arrived back at the Villa, both girls appeared to be both competing for my attention. I loved it.

Photo: Nut & Nang 05
Photo: Nang 06

Nevertheless, a good time was had by all! These girls really go a long way to please you. I kept thinking that this could not get any better...I was really looking forward to hitting more go gos. The girls and I decided to go back to Pattaya that nite and hit the beach or Walking street. We ended up just walking along Beach Road....then retiring after another good session. The next morning I gave both girls 2000 baht a piece. They both deserved it.

I wanted to play some pool and figured I go back to the Classroom go go later...they had a pool room on the 2nd floor. The girls left and I had an appointment with a tailor to have a few suits made. The Tailor shop, called "Supranee", which was on Second road and happen to be right across the street....from you know where....the "Classroom". As much as I really did not want to do any repeats with Nut, Pu or Nang, I wanted to play some pool and the Classroom was right there. I promised myself....if I go, I WILL NOT REPEAT....no matter what!

While playing pool, this one shy girl continues to walk by me and repeatedly smiles at me...but refuses to speak! After seeing her too many times, I decided to strike a conversation with her. Naturally...she speaks no english. After attempting to have a conversation with her a few minutes, I decide to finish playing pool. The shy girl now feels comfortable with me and follows me around the pool table and play hitting my pool stick. I finish playing pool and decide to go back to the 1st floor, have a few more drinks....then hit a new go go bar. These plans did not last long....as the former shy girl follows me very closely and sits right next to me. "Fuck it....I'm Mr Gullible"....I offer her a lady drink...and she runs off like a little kid to collect her prize. Now...I was her property. After a few minutes, she starts to whisper in my ear...over and over and over..."Barfine me....please".

Photo: Noi at Classroom 08

She was not a stunner, but it was something about her personality that I liked. It was around 5:00 pm and I was little horny anyway....so why not! I figured....I can bang her, eat....then get ready for the evening and hit a new go go bar. Well....I barfine her and it was so funny. You would thought I was marrying her by the way she was acting. Anyways....sometimes it can be a thrill to fuck a shy girl. I always like to see them open up and enjoy sex.

I take a few pictures of her and to my surprise, I really end up liking this girl. She was fun to hang out with. Nevertheless.....I had big plans for the evening, so I bang her and let her know I had plans to eat with a few friends. My driver took her back home and then we both went out to dinner.

Photo: Noi at Villa 08

That evening.....I decide to hit Misty's go g
o. Just like Classroom....I fell in love with this place and its girls. Stay tuned!

Priew 100

Trust me I am not knocking you and I realize this was your first trip to LOS but 1,000 baht per hour for a car ?? That's highway robbery. You should pay 1,000 baht per DAY tops for a car and driver for 8 hours !

I assume that's you in all the pics ? You got cahones posting your own image here. The rest of us are all paranoid.

I'm sure all the girls in Classroom were looking at you because your 2 poo ying from the night before had regaled everyone with stories about your villa. That's something these girls are not used to believe me . You're going to get competition with the girls all vying to get you to bring them there.

Looks like you did just fine with the girls. Some nice choices there. I have barfined Nut a few times. She's a great girl and fun to be with.
Classroom used to be one of my favorite bars in Pattaya but this last trip in February it had really gone downhill --just like most of Soi Pattayaland 2.

Nice start to your report. Welcome to Thailand !!!

Khun Mor....You are absolutely correct about the prices, but it was my first trip and didn't want to spare any expenses! I knew I could find cheaper rates, but chose not to at the time.

Surprisedly and although they quoted me a 1000 baht an hour....the driver would stop the clock when he dropped off me at each place. Since I didn't make him wait, he convinced the hotel not to charge me a continous rate. A real cool guy and always tipped him.

Trust me....I eventually calmed down. You will notice in my 2nd trip to Thailand, I stayed at the Residence Garden, used the baht buses and eventually even rented a motorbike.

motobike is the way to go... there is a difference between living large and tossing money into the abyss...

You may want to think twice with regards to your photos... things have a way of coming back and biting u in the ass. I fear I may of eliminated myself from a presidential run given my lifelong indiscrections and pursuit of pleasure

Cute girls ... The barmanager (I believe his name is Richard) is a brit and if you wear a BC jersey, you'll be in for a small treat. I still stop in here early in the evening when solo (hard to get other mongers to stroll down pl2). I've pulled a few pleasant shags...

Looking at all of these reports is making me really contemplate a trip to SEA. I always thought the best looking Asian girls were Phillipine, but it appears the Thai women are just as nice looking. A couple of questions that I've not yet seen asked and am really curious about:

I am from the Northeast US. What would be the shortest route, east or west?

Also, I think if I traveled that far I would probably want to consider a 2 week stay. How do you guys handle bill payments when you're away so long? Please don't suggest leaving my check book and PO Box key with someone I can trust as I don't trust anyone. Certainly, those bills that arrived prior to my departure would be paid before leaving. What about those that arrive after I'm gone? I've never stayed away for more than one week at a time so I have no experience in handling this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Prowler 1: A good percentage of the bills people receive in the mail these days can be viewed and paid on the web. These include credit cards, telephone bills, and so forth. You get web access, see your statements, and transfer the money using the web from your checking account directly to pay off the bill. When you set up web access, you give the credit card company, e.g., your checking account Bank's ABA (routing) code as well as your account number.

Although some people have expressed concerns about web security, I haven't had any such problems. The security problems usually happen when someone figures out a way to hack into a system that contains personal information, but when they are successful doing so they get information both about people who pay by mail, and those who use the web.

Prowler

First thing is I put EVERYTHING that can be paid BY credit card ON the credit card. This includes all my various phone services, and most other utilities. The rest I set up to draw direct from the checking account.

Second thing I do is I OVERPAY the credit card that I use for my bills and also OVERPAY the cards I'm gonna be using for cash advance in LoS by the amount I figure I'm gonna spend and the amount of time I'm gonna be gone. This way, if you return on time, your bills are, by and large, already paid. If, for some reason, you end up staying longer (unforseen stay in hospital, found the 10 women of your dreams, flight "mysteriously" canceled for a week) you're not sweatin' bullets. I got sick in the Philippines one trip and once I got back to LoS I was told by my doctor I shouldn't fly for 2 months. It was a living hell being next to Nana Entertainment Plaza every day for two months... Muahahahahah

E

Guys, thanks for the info. Although I do have some bills that I have payed online in the past when the due date was staring me in the face, I always prefer the mailed statement as it reminds me of the fact that a bill is due and that money will be drawn on my checking account as the result of a written check. I've never been comfortable with the idea of having money automatically taken out of my account as it seems to me to be a bit more difficult to then track it.

Laguy, I have no problem using the net as I make, and will continue to make, a number of purchases on the net anyway.

Epimetheus, I really like the idea about setting up my payments with a credit card. At least this way I receive some type of paper notice every month in the form of my credit card statement.

BTW guys, any advice on which would be the shorter route to Thailand? East or West from the Northeast US?

Prowler

Methinks you're just about in the middle there. You could go East as most flights from that coast that are direct travel that path. I know you can take EVA Air from New York and Thai Airways flys direct to BKK. LoooOOOOOoooong flight. Others bounce across the top of the country to Seattle, then on to Taipei and BKK. That wouldn't be quite as bad as the East Coast uberflights, but will require more transfers, be longer total travel time and probably cost a bit more. As with all things Asia: UP 2 U

Personally, I have ONE card that I use for ALL my billpaying. It's got a fairly low limit of $1000 which is enough to pay my bills for a few months if it comes to that. The advantage of using only one card is if it renews or the number is jacked, you're not wondering "which card is on what bill...". I HATE that bullshit.

Good luck.

E

It would take some time to do the research but I think a flight that goes over the polar ice cap would be the shortest flight.

A New York to Moscow, to India, to BKK. May work.

Here is a web site that could help.
http://www.flytecomm.com/index.html

The way that Epi has set up his bill paying is a real good way to make sure that you don't get behind on any bills.

Most companies will let you pick when your payments are due. I have set up my payments so all of them come due during the first week of the month.

This would be a good time to remind everybody that does get a paper statement of ANY kind, that with ID theft at an all time high it would be foolish not to use a high quality cross cut shreader to destroy any thing that has your name and or account number on it. This should include ALL recepts and airline ticket stub's from your trip's.

RG.

For the past 4 years or so,I have paid all my bills using a website called Paytrust. I used to be terrible with losing statements and late payments. This site for $10 per month pays all your bills. You have statements mailed to them - they archive them forever and send you a CD at the end of the year with all your payments. You can print out any statement at any time. You can set up automatic payment rules- i.e. pay if less than ,etc. or pay eavc manually. You can access and review all ur bills from anywhere with this site. It has me a model credit citizen again. NEVER a late payment.

If you want to check it out -

https://billscenter.paytrust.com/csp/ws/PMB/staticpages/index.shtml

Have never had a security problem, and never heard of anyone who did.

Guys, again, thanks.

Based upon all of the information you guys have provided, and a special thanks to Epi, I think what I'll do is set everything up on an Amex card. This way I won't have to worry about exceeding the limit on a card in any given month, and can simply pay the bill once a month. I would much rather do that than set up automatic payment from my savings or checking as this creates a potential problem with trying to remember what payments are still to be deducted from a banking account at any given time during the month. If I set up automatic payment and I need to know exactly what I have in a particular account, but don't remember that there are still certain bills that are to be deducted from that account, I might wrongly assume that I have more money available to spend than I really do.

I think I'll start doing my research on flight trips and maybe I can squeeze something in there before the end of the year. Any suggestions guys on what would be a preferable airline to Thailand?

Prowler

I hate to sound like a commercial but EVA Deluxe class ROCKS for not too much more then coach...

E

Gentlemen, in an effort to narrow my choice between CR and Thailand, I have a couple of questions about Thailand:

Am I assuming correctly that I have to fly into Bangkok and then ride in to Pattaya. If that is the case, what type of transportation would be available from Bangkok to Pattaya after arriving in to Bangkok at 11:45 pm, and how long is the ride?

What place do most mongerers stay when in Pattaya?

And, finally, what is the weather like this time of year? (Sept 29- Oct 10)

Just to throw my two cents in here about bill paying.

I've been using online billpay services since 1996 and never had a problem. I bank at Bank of America and they have free billpayment service (it's cheaper for them than processing paper checks).

I also have a Citibank account for when I travel as they seem to be worldwide and have had real good luck with ATM's around the world and use my Citibank CheckCard for getting cash. I'll bring about $1,000 cash with me and I deposit what I think I'll need in that acount for the duration of the trip. If I miscalculate I transfer money between banks.

When I'm out of the country I always bring my laptop with me and can access my bank account anytime I want. When using a wireless hotspot I use my anoymizer account www.anonymizer.com to surf the web without anyone sniffing out my account numbers and stuff.

Most of my bills are standard. I am on an annual averaging for gas, eletric, and water (my utility companies give me a flat monthly payment based on my historical annual consumption and we true up at the end of the year for any shortages or overages) and I pay those using my billpay service at BoA.

I don't have any car payments (good week in Vegas last year paid off my car 3 years early). I have no credit card debt (Vegas was very, very good to me) and try to keep it that way only using them for gas, airline tickets and car rentals but always pay them in full.

My mortgage is a direct debit from my checking account as that is the only one I really care about.

Anyways, that's how I do it.

"in an effort to narrow my choice between CR and Thailand"
what a strange question.

Prowler
There will be tons of taxi drivers trying to get your business to Pattaya. You can get a ride between 1,000 to 1,500 baht ( $25-$35)depending on your negotiation skills. Do not pay moe than 1,500 for sure. At that time of night it will take you about one and a half hours if you take the motorway ( tollway ) . You pay the tolls about-- 185 baht now if I remember right. You will arrive in Pattaya in plenty of time to cruise for company. Pattaya closes up MUCH later than BKK.

Seems like Dynasty and Sandy Spring have taken the lead recently. I prefer the latter. Check out the websites- URLs in discus section.

Snooky, thanks. I, too, bank with BofA and think I'll look into this. What I have done so far is to set myself up online to pay my bills electronically, although not automatically. At least this will allow me to take a look at my bills and their due dates prior to my departure for a trip and see what I have coming due and how much. At this point I can choose to pay via check or credit card. What I was not able to do was to set up auto pay using a credit card (wtih the exception of my electric bill), which is what I wanted to do. My problem is that I have numerous bills to keep track of. I have several credit cards, utilities for two homes, and other miscillaneous shit. I know it may seem that I might be making a bigger issue of this than I should, but when you come back from the brink of bankruptcy to establishing very good credit, I do have a serious concern about paying my bills on time. No problem, though, as I think the method I chose will give me greater control over the payments.

Athos, in response to your comment, why do you think my trying to choose between CR and Thailand would be a strange question? Is it because your preference is Thailand? My difficulty between the two is because I have a preference for Latin women. I think they're extremely beautiful. And I just lloooooovvvvvve a woman with a fat ass. Not a fat woman, but one with a fat ass. I like what we call thickness in a woman. Asian women are much more slender in their builds and not what I particularly prefer, although I have seen a few who have broken that rule. In addition, considering some of these reports I've seen, Thailand just looks like it would be a hell of alot of fun. And, finally, at some point I'd like to get my mongering degree, and it sounds like that just won't be possible without having taken the SEA class.

Khun mor, thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if most guys rode over to Pattaya or took a short domestic flight. Although I generally prowl on my first night in town (remember, I usually go to Latin countries because of their proximity) I don't know what kind of condition I would be in after a flight like this, and then getting through immigration, customs, and a long drive.

Prowler It all depends on what airline you take. Many like Eva Air land in the morning hours so no problem, Even Thai from LA , which is the last flight to come in lands at 11 PM and you'll be in Pattaya by 1 AM. Believe me plenty of time to Prowl- just sleep on the flight and you'll be ready to go. The new Thai non stop from NYC I believe lands in the morning hours as well .

There is no flight from BKK to Pattaya at any time. Too short a flight to be well travelled.

"Athos, in response to your comment, why do you think my trying to choose between CR and Thailand would be a strange question? Is it because your preference is Thailand? My difficulty between the two is because I have a preference for Latin women. I think they're extremely beautiful. And I just lloooooovvvvvve a woman with a fat ass. Not a fat woman, but one with a fat ass."

Prowler

I believe Athos has never been to SEA, but was considering a trip soon. Methinks his point was you can find a bigger scene with better prices in Brazil. From what I've seen these women fit your "preferences" perfectly...

E

It's official I am headed to LOS for 2 weeks around Memorial Day.

Prowler1
Did not want to sound too cynical but CR is closer to the minor league, I guess it might be convenient for north american crowd. I go to TJ all the time and I call it hell on earth. I believe CR is a tad better than TJ. If you like latin women, Brasil is hard to beat but I heard Colombia is pretty good too.

Hey athos ..
I bet you are already learning how to ask for beijo negro in thai..
I am sure you will enjoy all the treasures that LOS has to offer. I like you have not been able to go anywhere but Brazil for the past 3 years.
looking forward to hearing your impressions of Thailand and how you feel it compares.
I have already been there and loved it, but then I went to Brazil and the sex was more to my liking.
happy hunting !!!!

Athos

Post your dates and we'll see about hooking up out there. Would like to introduce you to Pattaya Epi style...

E

I'm sorry, you may not like the thai girl "look" but nothing beats the scene in Pattaya. gogo girls dancing naked and toucheable, 30,000 girls within 2 sq miles. open and unadulterated Pattaya is the disneyland for adults. A dream come true for men all ages.

Ok I just read this thread and no others on Pattaya.

I see you say there is 30,000 girls nearby.

I find it ironic that two guys in this thread have done the same girl. Is she supposed to be one of the best looking or best service in Pattaya?

Maxy, quit giving backhanded compliments and talking shit...you just keep trying to find ways to bag on Thailand and praise your precious latinas...by the way, there are no playboy model types in TJ, in case you havent noticed. You are just trying to find a way to weasel out of making a trip to monger mecca..along with Rio. I make a lot of criticisms myself about the Thai girl pics from time to time but I can make those comments BECAUSE I HAVE FUCKING BEEN THERE. Enough already.

Blazers

I am not sure what you are talking about.
Everyone has their own tastes and to each his own.

What are you so upset about?

Blazers I have worked in the Entertainment business for 20 years and have seen literally tens of thousands of headshots and actresses.

I have a very discriminating eye and don't need to see a girl in person to be able to tell what she truly looks like.

And yes there is playmate quality in TJ and the Hollywood professionals would and have confirmed it many times over.

Once again no use getting bent out of shape over nothing.

I am just trying to understand and broaden my horizons.

Maximus, you probably shouldn't spend a lot of time in the Asia threads, for the most part the girls are simply not your type. In fact, if you saw a Sylvia or Deyanira level girl in Thailand, it would most likely be a ladyboy. The features you like are not as common in Thailand in females.

If you do ever seriosly consider Thailand, you'd most likely have to stick to the soapies, probably the ones along Rachadapisek Road which cater more to business clientele.

But again, it'd probably be way too much culture shock and not really suited to your tastes. Start with Latin America first.

BTW, headshots are generally professionally done and of course you likely would see only the best of them. For the most part what you see here are a range of shots taken under poor lighting conditions by inexperienced photographers. As someone who has seen first hand what you like, I'm pretty sure you would be drooling over some of the girls that only came out average in the shots I've taken, for example.

Thanks d'Artagnan

I was meaning to e-mail you and ask your recomendations as you know me and my type and I trust you.

BTW my point was since I have seen so many headshots ( professional done and then seen the actress in person) I developed a talent for being able to Id shots which were nowhere like the girl in person and the ones that were very accurate.

There are several shots here on CH that are quite good.

Also once again, I appreciate Priew 100's detailed reports even if it may not be a place for me.

I was considering Pattaya and Thailand more as a tourist trip and adventure than mongering and also because Blazers, Athos and other vet mongers I know or respect are all going to be there in the coming weeks. Even though I don't agree with Blazers I still like him and appreciate his efforts.