2005/07 Athos - Safado Athos Goes LOS, But Not For Long...

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This report is the first part of a Thailand trip cut short by a decision to travel to Brazil.
For the Brazil portion of this trip, click 2005/07 Safado Athos Returns Home to Brazil
By Athos on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 12:03 pm:  Edit

This trip occurred in May of 05, newbies may find the Bangkok part interesting as this was my maiden trip to SEA. Lots of info is available on the web so I will try to just convey my experience. I am sure vets can point out many mistakes I made as I am sure I committed many without knowing it. This is not meant to be a guide.

After seeing the tsunami destroys so many lives, I thought well maybe if I go to LOS I might help a tiny bit the local economy. Probably this logic was erroneous but that was the little push I needed to go to LOS. I have always wanted to go there but going to LOS meant not going to Brazil. After witnessing a slow drop off in selection especially in Rio de Janeiro, on top add a weak dollar against the Real, I felt this was the right time to go to Thailand. The dollar was not especially strong versus the Thai baht but it was over 39 in May. Plan was to stay 15 nights, first 5 in Bangkok, following 5 in Pattaya, then last 5 wherever was the best.

My taste in girls

I am not necessarily interested in long term session with most working girls. I am interested in seeking the most beautiful girls who have hopefully a good attitude. I will pick a 7 with great attitude over an 8 with cold vibes. I am willing to try a trophy once in a while but I hate CBJ and lack of DFK. My ideal girl is 18 to 19, no kid, no tattoo, no piercing, she speaks barely to no English, and goes to the gym if over 19. I lean more toward the swimsuit hard body than the pet of the month. I am big on the face and not much of a breast man. I of course will recognize and enjoy beautiful tits, but finding a girl with gorgeous face is always my number 1 priority. I am looking for a very intense short session then leave it at that as my experience is the second go around is never as good even if sexually girl knows about my likes and dislikes. Also I have learned that girls tend to get lazy if they see you take a liking to them. My experience is a girl will put out a lot more if she has doubt whether you find her attractive so I try to not show my cards when looking at girls.

Preparation

I learned some Thai with Pimsleur's CD set, I highly recommend if you want to get a head start. I do not recommend Rosetta Stone unless you want to become intermediate, bit expensive and no western alphabet so basically ½ CD is useless.
I bought some maps but this was an overkill as the best maps are already available on the web.

I recommend buying "Thai for lovers" if you want to buy a single book. I purchased also some Thai language books from lonely planet but my preparation was way too much overkill. I must have done Pimsleur 3 times and felt pretty good speaking minimum Thai.

Bottom line for newbies, you do not need to speak any Thai as most girls speak the minimum English or Thai-glish.
Usually I get packed days ahead of a trip to Brazil and am very excited, somehow for this trip I did not pack until last second and I was not excited as I did not know what to expect. Photos on CH depict girls in the 5 to 6 range. SEA vets keep maintaining Asian girls do not photograph well but I have only 2 sayings for mongering:
"3 a day makes my day"
"photos don't lie"

LAX 11:00 pm, Bradley terminal

Seeing mainly SEA travelers, I meet my travel partner from the east coast. The different crews attendants look pretty good as I get my hopes up for BKK. We flew in on EVA Airlines, outfit based in Taiwan and selected to fork an extra $250 to fly on their Deluxe seat. This was a good idea as the LAX-Taipei is fairly long. I loved the old Boeing 747, we were seated in the front of the plane with lots of space so it did not feel cramped at all. The Deluxe seat lets you almost lie down so legs did not get tired. They seem to pay more attention to details compared to American airlines as they provide warm towels to refresh, provide toothbrush and toothpaste. They have good selection of movies so only thumbs up for EVA. I can recommend row 20 and 24 if you decide to fly on EVA Deluxe. 20 is the front row and 24 is middle section of the plane with no seats in front of you. You can get FF with Continental by flying EVA.

Taipei early morning

Flight arrived right on time in Taipei, it was very wet and not much to say about wait for BKK flight

Bangkok high noon

Flight to Bangkok was short maybe 3.5 hours. I was surprised as there was no waiting in line to go through customs at noon. They did not even look at me while I passed through. As you enter terminal, go to the end, left side, to get to 4 ATM machines. It's in English as well as Thai. After collecting some Bahts, exit terminal maybe 10 yards on the right of ATM. Outside there is a taxi booth where you are given a ticket. I had read that vets can get a cheaper taxi at the departure terminal but for newbies I'd say metered taxi is fair enough. Cost to Nana was 400 Bahts including tolls so I don't think we got ripped off. It was a quick ride to Omni Tower. First impression of Bangkok through the taxi window, damn I could be in Sao Paulo, another big city with lots of cars and concrete. Giant advertising, funny how they push these products I have no desire for.

Omni Tower

We stayed at the Omni Tower, very good location I might say as far enough from Nana but not so far to make it a long walk. My first impression of the hotel was I was disappointed as my room seemed run down, needing new coat of paint, OK but old bathroom. Otherwise the room was big enough. I got the regular room while my friend got the suite. I think the suite is a lot better but costs an extra $20, main thing for me was the small refrigerator was making a lot of noise and I like silence to sleep so maybe this is one determining factor to book the suite as the refrigerator is in the kitchen in the suite. Bangkok was fairly warm but I dislike AC and was able to sleep without it. Most girls were very impressed that I would stay at the OMM-NEE.

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New Cleopatra

After a brief nap, well I could not get any sleep we headed to my first soapie New Cleopatra. The directions given on CH are a great help, but they need some update as Bangkok has a new metro system, which is world class.

From Omni, we walked to the Sky Train station located in Nana, maybe a 10 min walk, head to NEP then make a right. I tried to be smart and buy a 15 trips book on the SkyTrain for 300 Bahts but that was a mistake as I learned later that you pay by distance and then I kept forgetting to carry ticket with me. To get to the metro, it takes only 1 train station from Nana to Asoke station and that costs 10 Bahts.

To buy a ticket from a vending machine, you need to figure out which station you're exiting then find the zone it belongs to. You select zone then put coins in machine, which dispenses ticket. There is a manned counter where you can get changes for bills. So it's pretty easy to ride the Sky Train. They have free maps at metro, SkyTrain and many restaurants.

At Asoke station, go to the exit that leads you to Metro. At the metro, you need to buy a metro ticket as the Sky Train ticket is not valid for metro. Again I found out you pay for distance which surprised me as all over the world a metro ticket is good for a single ride anywhere in the city. But by paying for distance, it was real cheap to go to soapies. I think it was like 15 bahts for couple of stations.

OK now to go to Cleopatra, exit metro station at Phra Ram 9, which is 2 stations going north, and take a west exit. You should see the Fortune hotel. Head west and it's a long walk, ½ mile or 2/3 km, you'll walk under a main highway. You will also pass by Champs Elysees soapie on left hand side. Then out of nowhere you should see the soapie sign on your left hand side.

Be very careful when crossing street, first they drive like in England on the left hand side and number two, they drive very fast over there so be extremely careful.

Very quickly I discovered that Bangkok is the safest place I have ever been to. There is no way in hell, you're going to get mugged so basically I dropped my guard in a NYC second. Only way to get into trouble is crossing streets.

Mt first impression of New Cleopatra . Well this is a nice place but where are the girls at 5:30 pm? The young hostess explains that others will show up but right now there were maybe 10 behind the fishbowl, 10 on the sideline couches and another half dozen in the younger selection room. So I am ready to wait it out but quickly the older manager comes to us and explains for today this is not going to get any better. I don't know if she tells the truth but we start looking harder for potentials. I did not like anyone in the fishbowl, older lineup 5 range in looks. The younger lineup, damn they look very bored and unsmiling so that leaves me with the sideline. I easily like 2 or 3 in the 6 range so no 8. Big problem, girls just sit on the couch so you cannot check hourglass this is not good. One papasan tries to help me and orders some girls to stand. This is getting worse as they seem quite displeased to obey his orders. I ended up picking this older gal but quite attractive. When she said her name was Pu, I immediately realized she had been reviewed on CH and I had seen her pictures. It was hard to make a selection as you cannot mingle with the girls, they just smile to you and hope you find them attractive.

Anyway, Pu leads me to her room upstairs. After getting settled down, I was offered to order a drink in the 100 bahts range, add 30 bahts tip. Pu seems older maybe on the wrong side of 20's but has a beautiful face, and decent hourglass with a noticeable tummy, ouch. But her face and smile won me over. She is a big smoker so that's another problem but good thing I did not notice any tattoo. I was not sure what the protocol was so I decided to let her lead the session. I badly wanted to kiss her but she seemed content to chat. Damn I could speak little Thai and she could speak very good Thai-glish. Very quickly I learned the word "suay" for beautiful and "same same" for same in English. We made our way to the bath. She made me sit facing her so she could bathe me from head to toe. She made me rinse my mouth with Listerine. Still, no kissing. I then dried out and lied in bed while she was getting ready herself. She started session by kissing my body, then onto very nice DFK. Her bbbj was excellent and I had to hold to not blow a wad. She paid attention to balls and perineum but would not lick my ass. I tried to give her a hint by licking her ass but that did not help. She started intercourse by riding my hard on. She was very good, I was very impressed. We tried different positions and she gave me another bbbj in between position switch. We both had a good time and I was very pleased.

Photos: Pu 01 02 03 04 05 06

#1 Pu
Looks: 6.5 could be a soft 7, bit short 5'0, 110 lbs, small but nice chest A cup maybe. Tummy is a problem but very smooth skin, gorgeous eyes.
Technique: 9.0 Extremely talented, after couple of days in Bangkok I did not think I could best her session on this trip.
Oral: 9.0 Just excellent, would have gotten 10 with some ass licking. bbbj
Overall: 9.0 Thumbs up. She gets Athos stamp of approval.

That was a nice way to lose my Asian cherry. Despite being asian and having tried over 500 different girls, including several mixed Eurasians, Pu was my first pure 100% Asian girl. My friend was quite pleased with his girl so this was a very good start. I tipped the papasan 100 bahts for his help. I noticed the fishbowl had more girls by the time I had finished. I don't remember exactly how much I ended up paying for sideline girl maybe 2900 bahts. My friend is Caucasian so he paid 500 bahts extra, this was going to be a recurring theme at soapies.

Since this was our first day, we had scheduled 2 shots.

Nana Plaza

We went to Nana plaza after a Thai dinner on Sukhumvit road, I think restaurant was called Green House or something like that. It was very good so I recommend it. Pad Thai was excellent.

As soon as we entered Nana Plaza, I noticed quite a few girls available but nothing to my taste, I did not notice any ugly girls, most were in the 5 to 6 range but I did not notice a 7 to get my blood going.

We started to check the agogo's and entered PlaySkool. I soon realized they push for drinks so you can interview girls via ficha drinks. I thought the best looking girls were at the 2 Rainbows. But none of the girls smiled to me so I decided to pick this smiling waitress named Na. Big mistake that I made was not ask any session question related to smoking or whatever. Her smile kind of won me over and I thought this would be good enough.

First bad sign, she offers to do a session upstairs so I should have bailed. So we walk back to Omni, I am very tired so barely offer any conversation so I immediately felt awkward. She took a very long shower and I was not sure what to expect, I wanted to sleep and get it over as quickly as possible. She did not kiss very well, not passionately and then started a cbj so she lost me there. She turned me down for DATY. I fucked her as quickly as possible then got rid of her after a quick few photos.

Photos: Na 07 08 09 10

#2 Na
Looks: 6.0, very nice B cup, cute face, nice hourglass but not toned, she could be a soft 7. I don't remember her age so probably 21 or 22.
Oral: 3.0 CBJ and DFK
Technique: 3.0 not much warmth, quite boring lay
Overall: 3.0 wasted shot.

I was able to sleep without AC but I would wake up every hour it seemed, maybe my body was fighting the time difference.

In the morning, I went downstairs as you get free breakfasts, I decided to try the Asian breakfast, pretty much very similar to a regular meal. Food was ok but I liked the dried noodles best. The coffee was very good but the orange juice below standard and they did not offer refill somehow.

The Omni has free wireless internet downstairs but not in the rooms. Overall I highly recommend the Omni, very friendly staff, they have this new trainee, very cute with braces…too bad not available.

I had thought of several rules for this LOS trip:
1. No one under a 7.0
2. No one over 21
3. Do not keep a girl over 24 hours.

I realized on my first day I had already broken my first two rules, well the heck with rules I had to throw them out the window.

Baron

Since we did not have a LT, we were ready for some early action. We headed to Eden, famous for threesome and anal. They did not open as early as advertised more around 1:30 pm than high noon. The selection was not too enticing and since I do plenty of threesomes when I am in Rio, I did not feel compelled to select anyone among older gals and nothing above a 6.0. I'd say there were easily over 20 ladies to choose from.

From Nana we took the Sky Train to Phrom Phong station, 2 exits down from Nana heading east to go to Baron. To locate Baron, best is to exit Sky Train station and walk along side Sukhumvit road. I think Baron address street number was in the 600 range on Sukhumvit. There was not much in terms of selection either but Baron seemed to be highly regarded on CH. So I picked a tall one Oa 5'6. I was surprised to see some tall girls in Bangkok; I expected tiny ones everywhere. Oa did not allow photos but was a real trooper. She spooked me by joking she was a lady boy. I checked her fingers but that was inconclusive, I checked her body over and over and could not see but anything checked female. Oa gave me an oil massage, was very talkative and was very good at her craft. She did not lick my ass but had excellent oral skills, licked perineum, balls and sucked real well. Sex was good but more an afterthought for me after such great oral exercise.

#3 Oa, no pic
Looks: 6.0
Oral: 9.0 bbbj
Technique: 9.0
Overall: 8.0 Athos stamp of approval

Poseidon

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The late afternoon soapie de jour was Poseidon, one of the top end soapies in Bangkok. Again same circuit, taking Sky Train to Asoke station then riding metro north bound but a little bit farther to Huai Khwang exit. Then walking north on Ratchada Pisek road toward Poseidon. Poseidon is facing the Grand Hotel. Poseidon is a big building with grandiose entrance. The fishbowl is divided in 2 halves, 1 half supposedly has more attractive girls and cost a little bit more, maybe they have more curve but I was not real sure. I did not like really anyone so we headed upstairs to check the sideliners. The selection here was excellent I thought. The mamasans have to be the worse in all Bangkok, they push you to make a selection. They basically check where you're gazing and try to push you the girls you're looking at. This is basically the opposite of what I like to do. Anyway I picked this latina face Bia, very hot face with perfect lips, with clothes on she had real potential to be 8+. But naked she was a bit disappointing bodywise but still a solid 7.0, 19 years old with no tattoo and no scars. She did the now usual bathing. But she seemed like a real pro, which was confirmed when she covered my dick with condom with her mouth. She would not kiss so I basically went through the motion, we had no communication, here I was with this beautiful girl and I just could not wait to be done with her. I was interested to see if she would ask for a tip but she did not.

#4 Bia, no pic
Looks: 7.0 Very beautiful face, body on the petite side, not toned enough. But her lips were magnificent, beautiful eyes.
Oral: 2.0 cbj and no dfk
Technique: 3.0
Overall: 3.0

I saw some other girls that interested me look wise upstairs but I got the feeling they were all trophies. I tried to start interviewing one to no avail, it was east meets west plus add language barrier. Despite the no ass look, these girls were very attractive to me. I got the feeling this was the number one soapie for looks in Bangkok.

Nana

I ended picking a gogo dancer inside Hollywood Rock in the evening and again I did not really interview girl, she seemed affectionate enough. She looked cute enough, I guess I was a stupid farang. Bee was very quiet on the walk back to the hotel. The plan was to go the LT route. Bee took a very long shower like 30 min, I almost fell asleep. She refused smoking and turned down DATY. OK so what am I supposed to do? I kissed her a long time to try to get hard, she was not a very good kisser. Then onto some mission, this was not fun. We fucked in the f. dark. Then after I pulled out my dick, I see quite a bit of blood, great she is on the rag. After we both shower separately, I ask her politely to leave and pay her for ST. Again no photos, this is not looking good so far. But so far all the girls have had very tight pussies.

#5 Bee, no pic
Looks: 6.0 5'2 110 lbs, cute face
Oral: 0.0
Technique: 1.0
Overall: 2.0

I think I do not like agogo's at this point.

I did see a very beautiful girl in street clothes so I assumed she was already bar fined and with her looks maybe for the whole week. I saw another very pretty girl in street clothes. I had the feeling I would not get a chance at bar fining any hottie while in Bangkok.

Poseidon

We were so impressed with the Poseidon lineup, we decided to return. But I was starting to get frustrated with this lack of TLC. So I skipped the sideliners upstairs and told this papasan we had talked to the day before, if he wants a tip, he better shows me a girl who smokes without condom. At this time, I did not find the girls good looking enough and the prospective of another cbj was just too unappetizing.

Some fishbowls have TV sets so all the girls watch them, I prefer the fishbowl without TV sets as girls will try to smile to you when you stand in front of bowl glass. Girls are usually barefeet, not wearing any shoes, lights are really strong so tough way to hide face imperfection.

The papasan made me wait then picked a girl for me. He asked that I give girl a tip, no problem. Nam Waan was about 21, spoke quite a bit so was very personable. She did smoke without a condom but sex was a bit too impersonal so despite bbbj this was an ok session. I tipped her 500 bht and the papasan 100 bht. Fishbowl girl was 2000 bht. At Poseidon, my caucasian partner was getting charged 1000 bahts for being a white farang. Then he picked a euro looking one so add another 500 bahts.

Photos: Nam Waan 11 12 13 14

#6 Nam Waan
Looks: 6.0
Oral: 6.0 bbbj
Technique: 6.0
Overall: 6.0 very personable girl, 1 week working at soapie. Number 232.

After hanging out upstairs, we decided to check other soapies on the same street on Ratchada Pisek. We walked south and checked Emmanuelle, another big building but not much in terms of girls. Nataree was a bit better and there was one girl I found beautiful so I was ready to come back if Mirage did not have anyone to my liking. Mirage is another high-end soapie and I kind of liked the sideliners. I did not see anyone in the fishbowl that interested me. On the other hand, I found a great papasan and he tried to figure me out and look for a girl to my taste. I was not one of these Japanese who pick a girl at random and wants to get off as fast as possible. I really liked this young looking european asian looking gal. And at this time, I figured go for the best looking one and forget bbbj. Nan turned out to be 19 and was all smile and she did not speak any English, which was even better. The papasan mentioned it was her first day at work so she was 3500 bahts. Sideliners were in the 2500 bahts range I think.

Mirage

Nan really looked new as she was a bit clueless on giving a soapie bath and I thought this was very cute. I did not push for bbbj but I think I could have obtained it. As I was in fact with a gorgeous girl and doing a european asian looking girl was a bit of a fantasy for me. I did not want to break the mood. We kissed quite passionately and Nan was very surprised when I went to give her some DATY. She loved it and was moaning the whole time with a big smile on her face. Sex was excellent as she was extremely wet. She was having an orgasm every 3 minutes, which was a first for me. So I lost count, 6, 7, 8 maybe. After sex, she was not sure what to do so I just told her to cuddle with me while I was watching the EPL highlight show on TV. I enjoyed my time with her and was very happy as in "happy happy".

At the end of the session, I snapped a few pictures, thanks goodness as I wanted to not forget her. I told her that I liked her and she answered "me too", ah my first moment of tenderness and I think the sole one while in Bangkok. I did not tip her as I tip only for bbbj at soapies.

Photos: Nan 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24

#7 Nan
Looks: 9.0, most beautiful face, baby fat as she is 19. She said she was fat showing me her arm, I guess I love fat girls when in Bangkok. Small C cup, too bad she has a big tattoo on chest. 5'2 120 lbs. Number 11.
Oral: 6.0 cbj
Technique: 6.0
Overall: 8.0 It was great times for both of us I think.

Kodak Moment: Just being in the arms of Nan.

Pegassus

After eating dinner at Soi Cowboy, we made our rounds at agogo DollHouse. Girls seemed to have a much better attitude than at Nana Plaza but I was not real impressed with lineup, mostly 5 and 6's. What struck me is not one girl that I saw at all the agogos seem to pique my interest. I did not seem to remember any particular face so all girls seemed to all look the same. Maybe one of the reason, I did so poorly at the agogos. We decided the find Pegassus, it's right by Soi Cowboy. As you reach the end of Soi Cowboy away from the Sky Train, you make a left, then on the first through street make a right and walk all the way down the street as Pegassus is not visible until you hit it. It's a huge mansion with some columns outside and a huge driveway. It has also a club nearby called Narcissus. I was laughing inside fearing we would not be allowed given our current outfits but thankfully money is the only thing that matters so we were given the quick menu. Entrance is 900 bahts, ficha drink is 900 bahts which entitles you to have a girl sit with you for 45 min. Bar fine is 1700 whether for ST or LT, the girl she gets 2000 for ST or 3000 for LT so a bit more expensive 6500 bahts total for LT. The first thing I noticed upon entering was the sheer decadence of this place, gold and expensive decor everywhere with a live band playing to no one in particular.

There were not many girls at 11:30 pm. Girls are divided in 3 groups: A, B and C. Going up in price from A to C. There is also a fourth group, the "talking" girls, they supposedly do not go back to the hotel. There were some pretty girls in the talking group. The ladies from group C were also indeed the best looking ones of the girls available. Outside an obvious 9, her name was Som, great round ass with tiny waist, I would say the selection was good but not great. Again I found it odd for me to look at girls but not being allowed to mingle. I had three girls in mind so I felt pretty good at this time, plus quiet place without smoke and noise, I felt quite at home. Due to the pricing, I would recommend this place to check once if you are in Bangkok unless you are very happy with agogos setup. I finally decided on this Vietnamese looking girl but she was Thai. I realized how short she was only when she stood up to change clothes. At least Yok was very personable and was a great companion. She spoke very good English too.

We went back to the Omni. We made our way very slowly to sex. Took at least an hour and half to get going. She was shy and she seemed to emjoy herself as she mentioned she wanted to take it very slowly to enjoy herself. She smoked very well, I barely ate her pussy as she seemed embarrassed to enjoy being eaten. One thing I noticed about smoking here, most girls just do one motion sucking up and down, but as long as pressure is right I was OK with it. Yok was as tight as other girls and sex was very enjoyable. I thought this was indeed a very good session. We went to sleep afterwards. Yok was a very good sleeping partner and I slept pretty well.

In the morning, she asked me again if I was a butterfly. She mentioned she did not want to leave but I did not take the bait. Photos I have of her were taken in the morning so without any makeup. She looked better at night with make up. Her body was actually pretty decent with an ass so that was nice.

Photos: Yok 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32

#8 Yok
Looks: 6.5 23 110lbs, 4'10 Tiny, decent face and nice body.
Oral: 9.0 Excellent despite not paying attention to balls and perineum. bbbj
Technique: 9.0 She was pretty good in every position
Overall: 9.0 I think I got lucky with this one as I doubt other girls at Pegassus would be as good as her. Athos stamp of approval

Yok seemed to have a headache in the morning and she did not seem interested in morning sex. I told her I wanted to have sex and one good thing here she said "up to you". So I took charge and I told her to just blow me. This was even better as I don't like necessarily repeat sex. I'd rather just get a good bbbj. Since this was taking a long time, Yok mentioned she wanted to have sex, which I am sure she just got tired of blowing more than enjoying sex with me. But anyway I obliged and got an average cumshot. One good thing here is pussy gets wet pretty fast.

My friend went for a noon Baron run but I had to skip after having a morning session with Yok. He reported another stellar session. We both agreed Baron reminded us of Braszl as this was the only place so far with guaranteed good and nasty sex.

Jay One

I had read somewhere that CP2 has such a huge fishbowl, locals would use binoculars to check the talent. So here I am carrying a brand new set of binoculars on my belt and here I am at CP2 and all I can think of is how small the fishbowl is. Well I'll use these binoculars at home games I guess. We must have hit CP2 at the wrong time around 5:30 pm because I could not see one girl I like, and there were many old gals in their 30's and 40's. So we decided to return to CP1, Jay One, we had stopped by earlier on the way to CP2.

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c21 c22

To get to CP1 and CP2, you need to take the Sky Train going west to Phaya Thai station then exit station going east, follow the road until you see an overpass then CP1 will be on the right hand side, if you take the second overpass to cross the street you will see CP2 on your left hand side. Easy walk maybe 300 yards.

The sideliners in Jay One were interesting but nothing above a 7. I was so undecided that my friend picked 2 girls for both of us. So I was stuck with Pu, 23. She had a pretty face and was tall but her body was soft. Well I could not tell until we were in the room.

I hate her pussy and Pu loved it. She was moaning but when it came time to get the big O, she put one hand over her mouth to muffle her scream. I could only think I just don't understand. So after giving this great orgasm, all I got was a cbj and no dfk. I was not happy and came as fast as I could. The soapie was the typical wash and bathe, I never got the slip and slide I had read about. Pu asked me if i was happy happy. I certainly was not but I just retorted " how about you?" which shut her up and I left the session 30 minutes ahead of time as we were in the habit of hitting the agogos just too late.

#9 Pu, no pic
Looks: 6.0 Pretty face but soft body knocks 1/2 point. 5'4 120 lbs
Oral: 3.0, no dfk and cbj
Technique: 4.0
Overall: 2.0 I am disappointed.

Soi 33

I thought maybe the hostess clubs on Soi 33 would offer better selection than agogos. Well was I wrong. The girls were of very low quality in the 3 to 4 range. I saw maybe one attractive girl in the whole damn Soi.

So we ended at Pegassus as we thought the lineup might be better earlier in the evening. Line up was about the same, combined with indifferent attitude from most girls, I did not feel the urge to give it another go.

One or two of the talking girls were easily an 8 or better so there is some decent pooying in there.

My friend started mentioning he checked on the web price for RT between Bangkok and Sao Paulo was running in the $1500. This was not what I wanted to hear.

Nana Hotel Parking lot

At this time, I am quite unhappy about my current trip. Instead of getting energy from having good sex, I find myself plain tired of seeking what I cannot find. I am batting about 0.500 so I never know whether session is going to be good or lousy. I am f. batting higher in TJ. My thought was I better decide tonight as we were supposed to go to Pattaya real soon like the next day. With about eleven days left on this trip, going to Brazil did not seem like a bad idea. In 5 minutes at 1:00 am, I decided "let's go, fuck it". We try to find a travel agency at 1:00 AM, everything is closed except for hooker bars and pharmacies so we decide to wait till morning. I am very tired at this time but we finally hit Nana hotel parking lot. I see a few girls in the parking lot but the disco seems very crowded. It reminded me a bit of a small Help with lots of girls dancing and smoking. I was getting very upset at this time as most girls thought I was Thai and did not seem interested to have anything to do with me. Hey I have lots of bahts to blow with no takers. I had stopped talking Thai-glish for several days now but still girls would tell me even though I spoke English I was still Thai. We started to interview girls in the parking lot, as we did not find any finalists inside the disco. We asked very precisely why girls did not seem to like me. This was the first time in my life I got it seems the cold shoulders from working girls. Girls could not explain. 2 girls in the parking lot instead of answering or trying to find an explanation invited us to go to another free lancer punting place, forgot the name. I declined and found myself talking to this semi pro. Since I knew this was my last night in Bangkok, I offered I think more than I could have paid her. I told her 1500 for ST, but 2000 if I am happy. Girls name was A. A was not bad looking, bit older 24, secretary during the day, no kid. She understood me real quick and offered to please me.

A turned into a damn good kisser. I ate her pussy, which was very clean. All pussies in Bangkok have been very clean, with thin lips and mostly tight. She smoked very well, typical one way suction. Sex was great as I had a very good cumshot. As she was taking shower afterwards, I almost fell asleep, being so tired. I was glad when she offered to leave seeing me so tired.

Photos: A - Nana Hotel 33 34 35

#10 A
Looks 6.0, 24, 5'0 100 lbs, small A cup
Oral: 8.0 bbbj
Technique: 8.0
Overall: 9.0 Very happy with my first free lancer. She seemed a lot into it unlike agogos dancer and waitress from previous nights.
I liked also the parking lot setup a lot more. I felt at home being able to converse under the night sky.
A gets Athos stamp of approval

I woke up late in the morning and started panicking about getting a ticket out of Dodge. My friend found a travel agency right by Omni, maybe 2 min walk on opposite side of the street walking toward Nana. Travel agent was shocked, "Are you sure you want to go to Sao Paulo?, one way ticket is cheaper $1300. Do you live in Sao Paulo?" We were very lucky as there was a Swiss Air leaving at 11:30 pm that night and having a short layover in Zurich in the morning then flight to Sao Paulo arriving end of the day. About 23 hours of flying and with time difference, I would lose only one day of mongering on the backend returning to SoCal. Travel agent spoke English so well, I was really impressed as our languages are so different. She mentioned she spoke French even better. So I obliged and switched to French, I was really shocked her French was even better than her English and I was the one struggling finding words. My friend tipped her to come through for us. I had never bought a ticket like that, same day leaving for another continent.

I had so many things to do, I decided to skip Baron and booked hotels in Sao Paulo and flights to Rio de Janeiro for the weekend. Gol web site let me book flights with my American Express.

I checked out of Omni early saving me one night and cancelled by phone my reservation to Sandy Spring in Pattaya.
I was very impressed with people in Thailand, hotel attendants wished me a happy birthday. That was very nice especially from the young trainee. I apologize I did not take photos of her thinking I could do it before I left that night but she would be AWOL. She is barely 18 with braces, sweet thing.

Talking about birthday, I was thinking shit probably only one shot on my birthday. I had five girls a few years back celebrating my 40th while in Rio.

Mirage

We do not have much time so we decided to hit the soapies real early around 3:30 PM, basically it's way too early with barely any girls at work. I gave myself a deadline of 4:00 PM to select a girl as session is 2 hours, then dinner, shower then leave for airport at 8:30 PM to account for possible traffic.

I am so frustrated by now, I don't care who I pick but decides on one fishbowl girl who looks young and only one week at work. By that time, a sideliner I like comes back from a session so I changed my mind. So I end up with 2 girls wai'ing me, but the sideliner has crooked teeth so I decide to keep my original choice. This is not kosher to do this as girls wait all day to be picked so I may have disappointed one here. Then my girl looks so damn serious, I just laugh and expect another one of these boring sessions. My friend had picked a hot looking one behind the fishbowl, how did this one not be a sideliner is beyond me, maybe they thought she was fat.

My girl starts to warm up a bit inside the elevator so that's a good sign. And even better sign, she starts to play with me as soon as we enter the suite and I am seated waiting for drinks to arrive. Jackie is 19 and her body is not bad at all, her face is a bit off, kinda mouse face but I like her attitude. She gives me the regular bath except at the end she starts giving me a quick bbbj inside the tub. I loved that and was very happy with my choice now. We went to bed and she went to town, wow she was great, she started licking my ass like a Brasileira, gave quite decent bbbj. I got the message she wanted me to blow me till completion. I had the best cumshot of this trip with Jackie, I screamed from pleasure and shot my load inside her mouth. She kept blowing me and swallowed the whole load. Wow this was great.

After rinsing her mouth, she went back to cuddle. She barely spoke any English and I liked that as we were still able to communicate. She gave me 5 minutes of rest and started blowing me again. I was hard enough to fuck her. Only negative of the session, Jackie was not interested in receiving pleasure so she turned me down for DATY. Jackie has a small mouth and tongue so not the best kisser. Anyway I started to fuck her in mission. Her pussy started to get wet but I was getting a bit soft so I pulled out and motioned her to blow me. She was very happy to oblige and I screamed again when I shot for the second time in her mouth. She kept sucking and swallowed second wad. I could not believe my luck, this is what I call being happy happy.

I guess this country caters to Brits as there was no porn on TV so I ended up watching EPL highlights inside the soapies. Jackie after some talk and cuddling checked my tool and offered another round but I declined, completely drained.
Took some photos afterwards, I thought Jackie had a nice body but face was a bit off.

I gave her 1000 bahts tip as I thought she was a champ, she went way beyond my expectations. So my best sessions were at the start and at the end of my stay in Bangkok. As Pu my first girl at Cleopatra was real damn good too. This was my best birthday of my life. So I still ended with two shots for the day.

Jackie was still very affectionate inside the elevator going down but as soon as door opened, back to her game face, she wai'ed me and did not give me a chance to say goodbye.

Photos: Jackie 36 37 38 39 40 41

#11 Jackie
Looks: 6.5 Jackie is tough to grade, she had one of the best bodies I had in Bangkok but face is a bit off.
Oral: 9.5 She needs to improve a little bit but nothing to complain she was fantastic. 3 bbbj and bn
Technique: 9.0
Overall: 10.0 Incredible ride. She gets Athos stamp of approval. If you are in Bangkok go to Mirage and look in the fishbowl for number 9.

Duang Airport 10:30 pm

We made our way slowly to the airport. The attendant started to ask for a return ticket from Brazil. Shit I had not booked any flight back to SoCal, aftter checking the passport and so many entries to Brasil, he stopped making any fuss and we were on our way to Brazil. Swissair is part of one world so I gave my AA FF number. I got 11.6k miles out of this one way flight.

Swissair has Airbus plane which provides smoother flight than Boeing and seems to have more room above your head so you feel you can breathe. Flight was packed with Swiss nationals and Europeans going home. Flight attendants were speaking over the speaker phones in French, German, Portuguese and English. There were some Thai ladies going to Europe with husbands or boyfriends. I was very tired so took an Ambien after dinner and was able to sleep 6 hours. Flight was 12 hours long.

Final thoughts on Bangkok

I was a bit disappointed with Bangkok, not because of the looks of girls with no ass but because of the lack of fun regarding sessions. I never found happiness or achieved peace inside me after any session. Usually after a great session, I feel great and am at peace with the world. It never happened in Bangkok. Maybe I was struggling with the culture difference, the time difference and jet lag but I know I was getting way too many poor sessions to sustain me any longer. Instead of feeling refreshed, I felt drained and tired.

Bangkok Positives

1. Beautiful pussies with thin lips, all super tight. Only downside is I prefer trim or shaved over natural bush, natural was prevalent in Bangkok.
2. Safety. Bangkok is the safest city I have ever visited. I don't think you can get mugged there. I was not ripped off by taxi driver. I took the taxi to get back to hotel from Pegassus and it was like 40 bahts.
3. People are very friendly, I am not talking about the hardcores I saw in gogos and soapies.
4. Food is varied, good and cheap.
5. P4P is fairly affordable.
6. Girls spoke enough English to get the job done but don't expect deep conversation.
7. When you have a nice girl, sessions can be great if not fulfilling. I had a tough time with girls being trained not to enjoy themselves, not wanting DATY. I thought it was ridiculous to wrap yourself in a towel to remove your underwear so I would not be able to see naked body.
8. It was easy to differentiate between katoeys and females.
9. Bangkok is really central when it comes to mongering.
10. Sky Train and new metro are world class transit systems. I ended taking the taxi only once outside of airport commute.
11. Thai girl faces is really varied: chinese, japanese, dark, european look. Girls were not as short as I expected. But girls were skinnier than expected in agogos.

Bangkok negatives

1. I had just way too many bad sessions, I batted 0.590 with 11 girls. Granted maybe my sampling was too low and I did not know how to select but I had the feeling my batting average was going to go even lower had I stayed longer.
2. A bad session is a bad session with too many times no dfk and cbj.
3. Girls have no ass, not sure whether Japanese or local Thai men drive this look. As I see beautiful Asian girls in SoCal and South America. I did like the upper body from the waist to the face, chests were nice in general. Too many tattoos but lot less than in other parts of the world. I hated the no ass, no thigh looks. I am big on beautiful hands and these girls had bony unattractive hands. Only Nan at Mirage had nice hands.
4. Culture shock, I just could not understand why these girls would never let go. They just wanted to service you and get you off, hence the famous line "happy happy?" Well I wasn't as I believe in pleasing my partners.
5. If you are originally from a neighbouring SEA country, girls will think of you as Thai and not see you as a monger or as a decent guy so they will not think of you as potential customer. Unless you're Japanese then girls will like you even more. Girls would not smile to me so I was turned off as I love to see a girl smile before I make any contact.
Positive though is you get charged oriental farang price at soapies.
6. Soapies and agogos prime time seem to collide as agogos close too early so prime time is at 8:30 pm or so, soapies dont get going until commute so 6:00 pm or so.
7. No upper tier girls, I saw maybe 2 gorgeous girls inside Nana and girls were hooked up. The attractive ones at the 2 Rainbows were in the 6 to 7 range. Just don't expect 8's to be available. The sideliners at soapies would not be sideliners if I were the manager, mostly 6's. Only Poseidon and Mirage had decent selections.

My overall feeling is unless you are big on the Asian look from SEA I would not recommend Bangkok for a mongering trip. Now I am very worried about the state of p4p as Thailand is supposed to be the Mecca of mongering. Well I did my 5 prayers a day and probably will not return any time soon. I would like to thank Pu at New Cleopatra, Nan and A at Mirage for leaving a good taste in my mouth of Bangkok.

By Merlin on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 01:12 pm:  Edit

Wow Athos, despite LOS not being to your liking, you nevertheless produced a wonderful trip report with lots of great information here (the type that we've come to appreciate in all your other TRs).

Although I actually prefer SEA over SA, I nevertheless respect your preferences, I don't expect everyone to fall head over heals over LOS or SEA.

I always wondered, though, if a monger's "first love" of a certain destination influences their views for subsequent destinations. Most of my long-time friends are actually SA guys and I decided on a fluke to check out LOS by myself a few years ago. These are guys I've known for 10+ years and we have a lot in common, but just by happenstance, I went to LOS first whereas they went to SA first and our present states of mind could not be any more different regarding preferences.

By Bwana_dik on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 02:39 pm:  Edit

Nice report, Athos.

On the question of whether there's an order effect that influences one's preferences, I don't think so. My first trip outside TJ was BKK, and I had a number of trips to Thailand under my belt before getting to SA. But my preference runs strongly to SA. Athos touches on the key issue for me: brasilieras seem to really, really like sex, and almost demand that you get them off. Thai girls seem almost completely geared to getting their clients off, but don't really appear to enjoy sex, at least not at the same level as their Brasilian sisters. The showering alone, undressing under a towel, "me shy" routine is a complete turn-off for me. I want a girl who goes a bit nuts while having sex. I actually like the Thai body type (I have a slight preference for spinners in Brasil), but I like the brasiliera attitude. Put them together and I'm a happy camper. I just find that combination far more often in Brasil, and like Athos, I like that fact that the spinners in Brasil have a bit more of an ass on them.

But it's all just an expression of personal preferences, as Merlin notes. Different strokes for different folks.

By Blazers on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 04:39 pm:  Edit

Well, the problem you faced is that you started the trip in BKK. Bangkok has the lower tiered girls IMHO at this time. All of the girls that I would consider in the high-end looks range are in Pattaya now. I have rarely had girls request covered-BJ's and never had a girl refuse DFK. Now I am no stud and I am talking about a huge sampling of girls so my only conclusion is that BKK is just a crappy destination for now....Pattaya still rules. The city life in BKK really hardens the girls and turns them into cunts real quick.

I have a feeling that a lot of your demise had to do with the fact that you were already hesitant about the trip before you even went. If you are not in a happy mood or just seem too business-like in your approach, the girls will pick up on it and your sessions will suck. Brazilian girls have bigger asses and are larger girls in general. If you like girls with nice round butts and broader shoulders then Brazil is the place. Brazilian girls are known for being very business-like and really taking pride in their hooker job. They try to enjoy themselves more than any other hookers in the world. Thai girls are excellent in bed but it's their demeanor that sets them apart in that they are very enjoyable to be around. If you are a short time guy then this wont even come into your radar. You have to seduce and romance the Thai girls a bit(even for just a night). The wam, bam, thank you mam attitude is more catered to SA girls.

You also seemed to have high expectations before you left and had lots of rules. This isnt taking a test or buying a car. I'm not saying it was your fault that you had those experiences but take into consideration that BKK has been going downhill for a while and your hesistancy about taking the trip probably affected your attitude while there without knowing it. I've met you before and you are a great guy and I'm surprised the Thai girls didnt go nuts for you as you are a young Asian guy who keeps himself in shape. I would say, that if you didnt find Thai girls attractive, then you wont find Asian girls attractive at all because Thai girls are the cream of the crop in Asia with maybe only Singapore and Hong Kong having prettier girls. Im surprised you didnt see any regular girl stunners on the sky train or out and about in BKK. IMHO, BKK has beautiful girls but they dont work at the bars or massage parlors.

By Blumpy on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 05:04 pm:  Edit

Wow, I'm floored by your lack of success in BKK. I want to echo what Blazers said about "romancing" Thai girls. I've found that Thai girls love to have fun, be it via drinking, dancing, shoting pool or a combination of all. Typically I settle in a go-go bar, chill out with a few beers and get to know the ladies, then I pick one or two then head off for dancing, a late dinner that lovemaking until dawn. Plus I've bedded several "free" girls I've met in the mall or on the SkyTrain; all very sweet and loving.
I've eaten out every Thai girl I've been with, passionately kissed and gotten BBBJ's without having to ask...
I just think that your "mood" affected your visit, but I respect your prefernces; I'm hooked on LOS but want to try SA one day...

By Sf4dfish on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 05:47 pm:  Edit

Athos, how "cum" you didn't pay a visit to the BJ bar Lólita's?

By Roadglide on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 06:41 pm:  Edit

Not to psycho-analyze anybody here, but I think that Blazers and Blumpy may have hit on something here. On my last trip to Rio it was "just ok" I was asked what was so great with my life that Rio is just ok?

Turns out that there was a LOT of work and life related stress/baggage that I brought down with me, and that fucked up a lot of my trip. I just did not enjoy the trip.

Why bring this up now and here? If your going on a vacation. Leave your worries behind and concentrate on having a good time.

RG.

By Murasaki on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 07:14 pm:  Edit

I can only shake my head in amazement at your bad luck. You got more covered blowjobs in the span of less than a week than I've gotten in eight years of Bangkok mongering.

At least you gave it a "shot". I think your trip would have gone better had you taken more time in the gogos. It appears that you were pretty hasty in picking girls and splitting, without sitting and putting them through the interview. Remember, if you bought them a ladydrink, you've staked your claim, and they are yours to talk to.

Honestly, I think if you had been in a different state of mind, and interviewed, you would have had a really good time. I doubt it would have ever matched Brazil for you, but you probably would have stayed to the end.

By Khun_mor on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 08:14 pm:  Edit

Athos
I want to add my props for your extensive report and details that have not been posted yet such as the subway routes to Ratchada soapies. It seems the old slip and slide that was ubiquitous just a few years ago is fast disappearing. I agree with the others that most of your problems with the Thai girls was in your approach. If you treat them like prostitutes they act like it. If you barfine them and immediately go back to your hotel without getting to know them they will usually not " open up ". They respond best if you take them out to eat- even noodles on the street- and try to establish some type of communication before the ole horizontal Tango. If you go a bit further and take them to a bar or two ,especially if you bring along one of her friends for company,they are far more passionate and responsive. Even sitting in her own bar for a while and having some fun with a friend of hers helps greatly. Or bring the mamasan over and buy her a couple of drinks- good credit for the girl in the future- and she will return the favor when you do get back to the hotel. It seems Thai girls are not wired for casual sex ( with exceptions of course)but respond best to even minimal relationship sex IMO. As Blumpy said in Thailand it's all about sanuk-- having fun. If your girl has fun with you she will do anything to return the fun back to you.
I think you should re do Thailand as a wingman of a veteran Thai monger and you might have a totally different experience.

BTW I will continue to disagree with Blazers about the quality of girls BKK vs Pattaya. The BKK girls are still far better looking - perhaps somewhat older but not much. I have spent over two weeks in each city within the past 6 months and still prefer BKK for many reasons.

Thanks again for your report !

(Message edited by Khun_Mor on July 27, 2005)

By Don Marco on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 08:48 pm:  Edit

Athos--

First off-- how dare u?? EVERYONE loves BKK! ;)

Great report-- I enjoyed reading it quite a bit. As Murasaki stated so well, I scratch my head at all the CBJs and such-- I haven't received one CBJ in all my travels anywhere. If someone offered up a CBJ (they haven't) they would be out on their ass very quickly... towel and all.

I recall the discuss posts you made at the time and it was evident you carried a lot of expectations on the plane with ya (vs. letting things unfold naturally), interviewing was non-existant by your own admission (without such .500 is damn good I think), and lastly, you didn't high tail it to Pattaya like I told ya (not that it would of made any difference in hindsight).

As a SEA addict, I'm off to Rio early Sept for the first time (my first time anywhere in SA). I am excited, but I also share some of your intial thoughts as well. I look at Rio reports and say-- gee there sure are a lot of older, fatter, uglier ho's down there. Then toss in more expensive (vs. SEA), and all the petty crime w/ spinkled in violence and I'm thinkin' Rio may be good, but why take take away time from SEA? I'll call it reverse Athos syndrome.

My answer thus far, is that life is about diversity, stimulation, and adventure. I will have a great time in Rio, not because it is better/worse than anywhere else, but I'll enjoy learning aobut somewhere new, trying out new tastes, sampling porto pussy, and perhaps even drive lil' DM in a few 3rd holes. If I came back in one piece and somewhat ontime, life is good.

Now enough of my nonsense... it appears that my preferences align with yours almost to a T-- pretty faces, no tats, young, etc. If you have some specific recs for Rio that cater to this kind of look (i.e. young spinner types) then I'm all ears.

Thanks again for the detailed report and may your future trips bring you many cum filled sessions.







(Message edited by donmarco on July 27, 2005)

By Don Marco on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 09:04 pm:  Edit

+1 for all KM's sage advice as well (as usual). Thai girls respond to fun and energy-- that is they feed off you. Introverts, or least ones that act like introverts in front of girls, usually ain't going to have a super time with most LoS girls. Sanuk. QUiet is okay, but body language is very important (smile, eye contact, buy drinks, be kind (i.e. generous) to mamasan/friends) and she'll usually rock you in bed.


On one hand we got blazers proclaiming Pattaya hottie central, and we have our other contingent (KM et al.) saying no way in bloody hell-- BKK. I hate to be the one, but I am forced into fray as the tiebreaker.

Per capita, BKK has far and above better looks than pattaya!!!!. So KM is absolutely right in my book.

Now hold on tho-- it is a numbers game with a theoretically infinite supply of pooying (not fixed population). Given that pattaya has 20* more ladies, pattaya can affort to have a much lower percentage of lookers, but still retain more fuckables in absolute terms.

I personally like Pattaya more for ease of getting around and I'm honest enough to admit that the cheap charlie in me digs the economy of Pattaya.

Blazers/KM ain't you both glad I put that topic to rest finally?






(Message edited by donmarco on July 27, 2005)

By Tight_fit on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 10:41 pm:  Edit

Excellent report and an equally good thread. I really enjoyed the "dissecting" of a monger experience into what works towards making a good time or a bad one. Unlike Athos, I don't put all my chips on looks. Maybe half of them. The attitude is equally important and that is something that usually takes some time to see how it developes. Since Athos is Asian in his background I also wonder how much that influenced his interactions with the women?

By Blazers on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 11:49 pm:  Edit

If you want hardened, tatoo ladened mom's with stretch marks and deflated tits..then BKK is the place. The girls in Pattaya are younger, hotter and are not as professional. In every other mongering destination, the capital always has better looking girls because its near an airport and business clientele bring in the hotties...Pattaya is the exception. There are no girls in Nana at the same level as girls at Superbaby, SUpergirl, Happy and Peppermint....there used to be, but not any more.

By soccer on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 04:42 am:  Edit

I'm sure we will all agree that "getting to know" the woman (to some extent) can be an important ingredient in having good sex. We will all agree that treating a prostitute like a whore will guarantee indifferent sex. Treating a prostitute like a gf (taking her out and about) to get gfe sounds logical but that also is time, effort and money. Some guys like doing this stuff and don't mind (enjoy) the extra effort. Like Athos, I went to BKK after having mongered in Rio (and the Netherlands, Czech Republic, Tel Aviv, London and Costa Rica -- good places and not so good places) and my reaction to BKK was pretty much the same. Getting to know the woman, certainly; treating her well, com certeza. But I've been to places where you can get a gfe (with a high percentage)without having to go through the process of going on a "date" with them beforehand.

The soapies are impersonal -- they are setup that way. You have to be a repeat customer to get some rapport going. The gogos are more personal, but if you have to do the "date" thing to ensure a good time...

By Don Marco on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 07:07 am:  Edit

"If you want hardened, tatoo ladened mom's with stretch marks and deflated tits..then BKK is the place."


say what you really mean.. ;)

I'm not sure what pattaya and bkk you went to, but tatoos are everywhere, and I stick by my initial unbiased assessment-- bkk has a higher % of lookers. Pataya has more more in raw #s, but you gota weed though the hundreds of hags to get to them.

Just because I have ALWAYS prefered and talked up pattaya over the years and continue to, doesn't mean I have to become myopic in my analitical musings.

U recall when MX got a little ruffled recently in the discuss section? Diatribe aside, he made a 100% accurate point regarding the "numbers game" Pattaya has mojo cuz it's got a HUGE base of whores to work with. The percentages of hotties is no more than any other place per se' (perhaps slightly), BUT the base is so much larger. 7-8% (the percentage I ~ consider hot) of 10k is a sizeable number, much larger than lets say 10% of 1k base.


By Mangaman on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 06:29 pm:  Edit

While most of the comments of the LOS vets here were well taken, I want to add a little support to Athos's theory about how which mongering nsite one visits first can affect one's perception. My first monger trip was to LOS in 2000 with a veteran who had lived in Thailand for many years before moving back to US, and had regaled me with many stories about the wonders of Asian mongering. I went to LOS with great anticipation of an incredible time, and thats what I had. I was a kid in the proverbial candy store. While not all my experiences were positive, enough were to overwhelm all my past experience with P4P girls. I tried soapies, Nana, Cowboy, a freelancer from Soi Nana, and a gogo girl at Koh Samui. I loved the shows at Nana and Cowboy, the abundance of "bar beers" and the aim to please attitude of the Thai girls, as well as the general sweetness of many of them.
However, once I saw Rio, Ive never had a strong urge to return to Thailand. I much prefer the greater variety of sizes, shapes and colors in Brasil, the more voluptuous lower halfs, and the sex-loving attitude of the girls, which seems to be a reflection of the attitude of the culture at large toward sexuality, as opposed to the very conservative, prudish attitude of most Thais. The passion for the act of brasilieras more than makes up for the lack of the sweetness of many Thai SPs. I also really like the setup of the termas in Rio, which is different from anything I found in BKK. I do miss the all-body soapy massages though.

Interestingly, I may be returning to Thailand next winter to help scatter the ashes of my dear departed friend who guided me on that first trip. I am curious to see how I find the scene there this time after experiencing Brasil.

By Admin on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 12:29 am:  Edit

Pu, Na, & Nam Waan photos integrated directly into report.

By Xenono on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 12:36 am:  Edit

So what do you guys think? Is Athos' Pu (never though I would write those words) that same as mine? At first I thought so but now I am not so sure.

Check out my pics numbered 04103 through 04107 from 2002.

As I recall, I had a nice session with her as well.

By Khun_mor on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:01 pm:  Edit

Xen
A bit older a bit heavier but same Pu.

BTW don't worry it's pronounced as a B as in BU --crab.

By Blazers on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 09:42 pm:  Edit

Not exactly....more like Pb like somewhere in between p and b in pronunciation. Took me a while to get it close. Sort of like the odd way you pronounce "v"'s in Spanish. And why the heck would someone give someone the nickname "Crab". Only in Thailand. Sorry KM, not trying to be a smartass...I know you know how to speak fluent Thai.

By Khun_mor on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:21 pm:  Edit

It seemed a bit complicated to explain it like that.

Actually most people phonetically use Bp not Pb as it more closly resembles that sound. The B component is dominant.

I was only trying to let him know it was not pronounced poo .

If you use a B sound 99 % of Thais will know what you are saying anyway.

By Admin on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 02:29 am:  Edit

All photos now integrated into report.

By Solid808 on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 05:03 am:  Edit

Hey Athos...Thanks for contributing the trip report. Although Thailand wasn't your bag, atleast were able to get first hand experience and make your own determinations. The LOS isn't for everyone, but clearly many really enjoy Thailand. Personally, I enjoy both the LOS and Brazil and would be very happy hobbying in both countries. Thanks again

By Admin on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 01:10 pm:  Edit

This trip continues in a new report for Brazil:
2005/07 Safado Athos Returns Home to Brazil

By Athos on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:43 am:  Edit

I never felt any connection with gogo girls I picked so the thought of taking them out never occurred to me.
I realized I was way off in my selection of gogos girls but really I did not feel like buying 15 drinks to maybe get a girl that fit as I did not find many girls that attractive.
I was relaxed only in the parking lot on my last night away from gogos so I dont think gogos is my kinda of place.
Inside soapies it was either hot or cold, either I had a good time or lousy time.
I think one thing I might have done better is tell each girl I am looking for a gf and play their game.
I tend also to be uptight so when girls did not pay any attention to me, I got even more uptight. There was basically no vibes from the girls.

By Athos on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:46 am:  Edit

Don Marco
Go to Rio with an open mind as looks are totally different from BKK. If you're into BKK looks, you're not going to find it in Rio. You should be able to find some acceptable spinners.

By Don Marco on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 07:08 am:  Edit

Sage advice for ANYONE, whether it's the first trip to rio, LOS, etc. I certainly have one. Bring 'em on.


By Frontbc on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 04:49 pm:  Edit

Athos,

Great trip report and thanks for the photos.

I like #7 Nan.


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