All that the loss on this stock will do is offset gains made on other ones. If that is your goal, wouldn't it be easier to just not make winning trades in the first place, instead of making money on some, and then intentionally losing on others to decrease your net taxable gains?

If that is my goal?

My goal is to never lose money.

Unfortunately I sometimes do lose money and my point was (I think I made it very clearly on the above post). Also see below:

"Yeah, I agree , but is does soothe the lost a little bit when you can write it off.

The loss may be against a capital gain or I can use up to $3,000 a year against earned income and carry forward the additional loses each year.

This all started by me just making a snide remark regarding SURE.

Fuck all you guys.

So you are going to hold on to SURE until you lose at least $3,000?

There's no way you can lose with SURE, it's a SUREthing. 4th qtr earnings this Thursday, it's going to be a good week.

Sell EVERYTHING, buy SURE tomorrow. I'm tellin ya.

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Is there a way to use the SURE process to cleanse a pussy before DATY.

If the answer is yes, I will buy another 10,000 shares.

Caveat Emptor

U.S. Food Industry Begins to Embrace Irradiation: January 31, 2003 (Reuters)
Stung by record recalls of tainted meat last year, the U.S. food industry is stepping up the use of new technology to irradiate meat as an extra protection against deadly bacteria such as E. coli and listeria.

Just a small part of the 9 billion pounds of ground beef sold in the United States last year was irradiated, but the amount is growing rapidly, despite concerns voiced by some consumer groups about the unknown long-term effects on health.

"I would estimate the total volume currently being irradiated under 5 percent (of beef production), but we are anticipating an exponential growth curve," said Janet Riley, spokeswoman for the American Meat Institute (AMI).

Irradiation exposes products to ionizing radiation that kills insects, molds and bacteria. The U.S. government approved irradiation treatment of ground beef in January 2000, and the first batch was processed in May of that year.

BIG INCREASES
Irradiation began to ramp up late last year after the largest meat recall in U.S. history. In October, Pilgrim's Pride Corp. (CHX) recalled 27.4 million pounds of poultry products because of an outbreak of listeria, a potentially deadly bacteria. The outbreak that prompted the recall was blamed for killing eight people and making more than 40 sick.

Food companies see irradiation as another barrier of protection against bacteria that can cause food-borne illness, especially to protect children, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.

SureBeam Corp. (SURE) , the largest provider of the technology, said it expects to process between 300 million and 350 million pounds of beef this year, up from about 15 million in 2002.

"Irradiation eliminates 99.9 percent of the pathogens such as E. coli, salmonella and listeria without changing the taste, texture, appearance or nutritional value of the meat," said John Fox, associate professor of agricultural economics at Kansas State University. "In spite of its name, the process cannot make food radioactive."

The Food and Drug Administration permits three types of ionizing radiation on foods: gamma rays, high-energy electrons and X-rays.

Irradiation is widely used to sterilize many non-food products, including toothbrushes, home-use adhesive bandage strips and surgical tools, although at doses much higher than used for food. Irradiation has been used to kill insects in wheat flour since 1963 and used on common kitchen spices since 1983.

Still, critics say irradiation may deplete vitamins and nutrients, and that irradiated food contains chemical byproducts that may be harmful. They say irradiation is an effort by meat packers and processors to cover up sloppy food-handling processes. Washington-based consumer group Public Citizen, for example, is calling for studies on the long-term effects of treated meat on children. In the meantime, they oppose the use of irradiation for beef supplied by the Agriculture Department for school meals.

"A decision to feed schoolchildren irradiated food would mean this agency (USDA) is willing to put our children's health at risk to help cover up the meat industry's sanitary failures," said Wenonah Hauter, director of Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy and Environment Program.

Also, if irradiated food is permitted in school lunches, it will not be labeled in the way that irradiated retail food must be, making it impossible for parents to know what school cafeterias are feeding their children, critics point out.

The FDA requires irradiated meat be labeled with a symbol resembling a stylized flower and the words "treated by irradiation."

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS
Meat industry experts said irradiation is no "silver bullet" and proper food handling at home remains critical. Meat can be contaminated by residue from other foods or by utensils used to prepare other meals. Cooking of ground beef to an internal temperature of 160 degrees Fahrenheit can kill E. coli and listeria, the Beef Council said.

Still, the proven benefits are clearly winning over many consumers and health care officials, and use of the technology is taking off. A nationwide survey conducted by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association found that 48 percent of Americans would purchase irradiated meat. That response in November 2002 was up from 38 percent in February. Industry officials said that small doses of irradiation should not affect the taste of the meat.

The World Health Organization has endorsed irradiation, saying it is one of the most effective food decontamination methods available for meat and poultry products.

"On the average, one major retail (food) chain has rolled out irradiated ground beef every week basically since last August," said Ron Eustice, executive director of the Minnesota Beef Council. He said about 4,000 supermarkets carry either fresh irradiated ground beef or frozen products.

Supermarket companies Safeway Inc. (SWY), Albertson's Inc. (ABS) and Giant Eagle Inc. have all signed on to sell irradiated meat at some of their stores.

MEAT PROCESSORS TAKE ACTION
The number of packers and processors irradiating beef is growing rapidly. They are beginning to contract for irradiation capability in their plants instead of at remote locations.

Excel, a division of Minnesota-based Cargill Inc., plans to install electron beam irradiation facilities at its packing plants in Schuyler, Nebraska, and Plano, Texas. Rochester, Minnesota-based TeMeats, and Minnesota-based W.W. Johnson Co. have announced plans to market irradiated product.

The former ConAgra Foods Inc. (CAG) slaughterhouse in Greeley, Colorado, now operating as Swift and Co., has committed more than $4 million to increase food safety and plans later this year to have some of its meat irradiated. In July, the plant was the focal point of the third-largest beef recall in history when the company recalled almost 19 million pounds of beef because of E. coli concerns.

"Irradiated ground beef will become the gold standard at food service in the next two to three years," said the Minnesota Beef Council's Eustice. "Food irradiation will take its rightful place as the fourth pillar of public health alongside pasteurization of milk, immunization against disease and chlorination of our water supply -- and that will take place in the next decade. By Jerry Bieszk

Dierberg Markets Offer Choice of Irradiated Ground Beef: (February 1, 2003) From a press release: Dierbergs Markets of St. Louis, MO has added two new electronically irradiated fresh ground beef items to its meat department giving customers ground beef options with an extra measure of protection against foodborne illness. Dierbergs new items, a fresh 93-percent lean ground beef and an 85-percent lean ground round, are supplied by Excel, from its processing plant in Dodge City, Kan. Its route to Dierbergs 19 stores includes a stop in Sioux City, Iowa, where the packaged product is electronically irradiated at a facility operated by San Diego-based SureBeam Corp.

More than 500 studies over 40 years of research support irradiation as a safe and effective method of enhancing the safety of foods. The Food and Drug Administration and the United States Department of Agriculture approve its use. It's a healthy choice endorsed by the American Medical Association, the American Dietetic Association and other health organizations. Irradiated beef is on the shelves of more than 4,000 U.S. grocery stores and is available in more than 40 countries.

Dierbergs' irradiated ground-beef and ground-round will be clearly identified on meat department shelves with the SureBeam seal, the FDA-required "Radura," an internationally accepted symbol for irradiation, and the words "Irradiated for Food Safety."

John May, Dierbergs' director of meat and seafood operations, stressed that beyond the food-safety benefits, Dierbergs irradiated meats were indistinguishable from the store's comparable non-irradiated product. "Irradiated ground beef is just as flavorful, juicy and nutritious as its non-irradiated counterparts...the advantage is the extra layer of safety," May said.

Dierbergs and SureBeam advocate that customers follow the same handling guidelines for irradiated fresh ground as they would for any raw-meat product, including refrigeration and cooking to an internal temperature of 160 degrees Fahrenheit.

The Irradiated Chef: More Stores are Stocking Meat Products That Have Undergone Radiation Treatment to Kill Bacteria. Should You Buy Them? The State; Columbia, SC (January 23, 2003)
Meat that's been zapped by radiation to kill bacteria is coming soon to a frozen-food section near you - or might be there already. Whether you'll ever want to try these products may depend on which you fear more: the word "radiation," or food-borne bugs that could make you deathly ill with diarrhea.

Some supermarket chains are betting that recalls of contaminated foods and recent E. coli and listeria outbreaks finally have created a small niche for irradiated meat products.

"We have been watching the industry as it relates to irradiated meats, and decided the timing was right to offer our customers a choice," said Brenda Reid, a spokeswoman for Publix. Publix and other stores see potential demand among people who must be extra-vigilant about food contamination because their immune systems are weakened by AIDS or by aggressive treatments for cancer.

Irradiated foods offer a health advantage for people who need to use the safest possible product, said Mickey Clerc, a Winn-Dixie spokesman. Irradiated hamburger patties have been available at Winn-Dixie stores for about a year. Piggly Wiggly will introduce a similar product later this month. Publix just added three irradiated products: lean ground-beef patties, boneless chicken breasts and chicken tenders, all frozen.

And in March, Bi-Lo plans to become the first major supermarket chain in South Carolina to offer an irradiated product that will be sold fresh (ground beef). It's "just another choice for consumers," said Joyce Smart, spokeswoman for Mauldin-based Bi Lo. "There really is a need for safety, because people don't cook their meat properly," added Smart, who admitted she likes her own burgers rare.

HOW IT WORKS
Food-borne outbreaks are not always deadly. But they can be, especially among children and the elderly. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated in 1999 that about 5,000 Americans die each year from food-borne diseases, which typically cause symptoms such as nausea, cramps and diarrhea.

More recently, at least 120 illnesses and 20 deaths from listeria poisoning occurred last summer and fall in the Northeast; 27 million pounds of turkey and chicken products were recalled.

Zapping food with low-level radiation doesn't cook it, but disrupts the DNA of bacteria or insects enough to kill them, said Daniel Lafontaine, director of the South Carolina Meat and Poultry Inspection Department. Irradiated products cost 5 to 20 cents more per pound, he said.

The technology behind irradiation has been around for many decades. Astronauts' food is irradiated, as a precaution against their contracting a food-related ailment while an inconvenient 200,000 or so miles from the nearest emergency room.

There are two main methods for irradiation, a gamma-ray process and an electronic-beam technique. (At high levels, the latter technique is being used on anthrax-infected mail.)

Foods are passed through a radiation field quickly - think of an airport luggage scanner - and a similar procedure is used to sterilize medical products such as sutures and contact lens solutions.

"It doesn't make the product radioactive," said Lafontaine, who has eaten irradiated meats and pronounced them "quite good."

Public health and agriculture officials are among the proponents of irradiation. "I look at this as it evolves and becomes more accepted as one of the true pillars of public health, along with chlorination of water and pasteurization of milk," Lafontaine said.

Irradiation has been approved as safe by agencies including the Food and Drug Administration, the World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the American Dietetic Association and the International Atomic Energy Agency. But that doesn't mean everyone thinks it's a good idea.

IRRADIATION WORRIES
Public Citizen, the consumer watchdog organization founded by Ralph Nader, says irradiation is no substitute for cleaning up filthy slaughterhouse conditions that can cause contamination. Consumer groups voice concerns about possibly cancer-causing chemicals formed in food that is irradiated, and cite studies showing illnesses in animals such as mice that have been fed irradiated foods. Other worries focus on safety at irradiation facilities.

Critics also say irradiation destroys vitamins and other nutrients. That's true, Lafontaine said, but any type of processing results in a loss of nutrients, including boiling vegetables on the stove. He said carcinogenic effects can be minimized by careful attention to packaging materials when foods are irradiated - similar to the care one must take when cooking food in a microwave oven.

Dominick Quinzi, who manages Earth Fare on Devine Street, said its "natural is best" philosophy relies on suppliers to ensure high standards of sanitation, handling and packaging. "It's our company's policy not to carry any irradiated foods," Quinzi said. He declined to be specific about claims of danger, "but there are health risks."

Carolyn Jenkins, a registered nurse and dietitian who teaches at the Medical University of South Carolina, said compounds formed by irradiating meat are the same as those produced by other processes, including some cooking methods. She said she prefers the risk of irradiation to the risk of food poisoning. "It would be wonderful if our food supply were perfectly safe, but we all know that's not the case," she said.

Irradiation is available for produce as well, extending the shelf life of strawberries and killing a parasitic fly on Hawaiian papayas. No stores contacted have immediate plans to offer irradiated produce in South Carolina.

Lafontaine said irradiated products have been slow to come to the marketplace because of grocers' worries about public perceptions, not because of safety hazards.

Jenkins said she expects people will look more favorably on irradiation as they learn more about it - especially with more than 300,000 hospitalizations a year occurring from food-borne illnesses. "When you look at any new process, it takes a while for the public to feel safe," she said.

Lafontaine agreed, noting the concerns people had about microwave ovens 30 years ago. "Nobody protests microwaves anymore," he said. By Linda Lamb

Irradiated Burgers Featured at Illinois Governor Inauguration:
The Illinois Beef Association partnered with the Illinois Institute of Technology and SureBeam Corporation to serve irradiated hamburger patties at the inauguration BBQ for Governor Blagojevich in Springfield, IL on January 13th.

Irradiated Meat Due in Area Stores; Treated Chicken, Beef at Publix: The Atlanta Journal and Constitution (January 13, 2003):
From supermarket shelves to the school lunch program, irradiated food is inching its way into the American diet. The technology, which bombards food with ionizing radiation to kill bacteria that can cause food-borne illness, is unfamiliar to many. That's likely to change.

Thousands of grocery stores began selling irradiated, uncooked ground beef last year, a year that also saw the largest and third-largest recalls in U.S. history of meat potentially contaminated with deadly bacteria. The first major chain in Atlanta to do so, Publix, planned to start offering treated frozen ground beef and chicken this weekend under the New Generation label at its 108 metro stores. Kroger is considering it.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture just began studying how to incorporate irradiated foods into the school lunch program; they could be available as soon as this fall. The Food and Drug Administration is considering a proposal to use the technology on seafood and processed foods like deli meats and hot dogs, which would greatly expand its reach; a ruling could come this year. (Last year 32 million pounds of ready-to-eat chicken and turkey deli meat were recalled because of potential contamination with the bacteria Listeria monocytogenes, the largest such action ever.) And a handful of restaurants are serving irradiated meat.

For many consumers, questions remain, starting with the most basic: What does it do and is it safe?

The process not only kills bacteria but also extends shelf life and kills insects. First approved 40 years ago for insect control in wheat, irradiation slowly has gained regulatory approval for use on other foods. Depending on how it's applied, the process can impart an off flavor, especially to foods high in fat.

The World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and many other health agencies say irradiation is safe, and that treated foods are not radioactive. They say it provides an additional safeguard against bacteria that can cause food-borne illness, especially among children, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.

A few consumer advocacy groups, including Public Citizen, urge caution, contending the process causes chemical changes in the food that could cause unknown long-term health problems. Other consumer groups, like Center for Science in the Public Interest, say the process is safe but want tougher enforcement of sanitation rules at meat plants rather than relying on irradiation to eliminate potential problems.

Although many public health organizations endorse irradiation, the process has been slow to gain consumer acceptance. Several events in the past 18 months have raised its profile, starting with the U.S. Postal Service's announcement that it would irradiate mail to kill anthrax bacteria, a plan that has since been scaled back.

A question of labels
A provision in last year's farm bill says that the USDA cannot prohibit its use in the school lunch program. It also directs the FDA to consider replacing "treated with radiation" or "treated by irradiation" (irradiation means treatment with radiation) on labels with other terms.

SureBeam Corp. of San Diego, which supplies much of the irradiated ground beef sold in supermarkets, shipped some 16 million pounds of fresh beef in 2002. For this year, the company estimates it will produce 350 million pounds. That's still a sliver of the 9.8 billion pounds of ground beef sold annually.

"We believe the potential is far greater than being a niche market," says Mark Stephenson, a SureBeam vice president. "And we don't think that time is such a long way away."

SureBeam plans to ask the FDA to let it replace "irradiation" on package labels with another phrase, perhaps "electronically pasteurized," to increase consumer acceptance. Food Technology Services, which irradiates the ground beef and chicken for Publix, does not.

"I think the word 'irradiation' is a badge of honor," says company President Richard Hunter, who acknowledges that many Americans have different views. "Consumers would be more accepting if it said something else."

Others selling irradiated food share those concerns. Irradiated food sold at retail must carry an identifying label and the radura symbol, except for spices used as a small component of another food product. Restaurants and food service operators are not required to tell diners that they're serving irradiated food. Some don't.

School lunch programs
The USDA is starting an education program about irradiation in Minnesota schools. Schools that do decide to serve irradiated meat --- and they will have a choice of whether to buy it --- will be encouraged to disclose that information to parents, says USDA spokeswoman Alisa Harrison.

Publix has briefed its employees on the irradiation process and plans signs on freezer cases to let customers know about the ground beef patties, boneless chicken breasts and breast tenderloins. The 741-store chain is one of the few to offer chicken, but wanted to do so because both meats can harbor harmful bacteria, says spokeswoman Brenda Reid.

Publix's irradiated meats are treated with cobalt 60 irradiation; most supermarkets buy food treated with an electron beam or X-rays generated by a linear accelerator.

Scientifically, there is no difference in the end results, says Elsa Murano, USDA's undersecretary for food safety. "It doesn't matter what source you use," Murano says. "Irradiation is irradiation."

Heidi Harrison of Atlanta says she will probably buy treated chicken to cut the risk of food-borne illness. The extra cost, 10 to 20 cents more per pound, doesn't deter her. "If it's something to make (it) healthier or better, it would be worth paying more money," Harrison says.

Fresh irradiated ground beef, available at some supermarkets around the country but not (until now) in Atlanta, has persuaded many consumers to take the plunge. Wegmans Food Markets in the Northeast began selling fresh, irradiated ground beef in May, and during barbecue season it accounted for 30 percent of all ground beef sales. At Wegmans, customers were told they could cook burgers rare if made with irradiated meat, something the USDA and irradiation companies advise against.

They say that although irradiation provides an additional level of safety, treated products should still be handled like untreated ones. That means cooking thoroughly and preventing cross-contamination with foods that will be eaten without cooking, like salads.

"Just because it's irradiated doesn't mean all pathogens have been eliminated," says Mike Doyle, director of the University of Georgia's Center for Food Safety in Griffin. By Elizabeth Lee

Weis Markets to Begin Selling Irradiated Ground Beef : (January 29, 2003) From a press release
SUNBURY, Pa. -- Weis Markets, Inc. (NYSE: WMK) today said it would begin selling irradiated fresh ground beef on February 2 in stores throughout its marketing area in Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Virginia and West Virginia.

The Company said it would be the first to market with irradiated fresh ground beef products in many of its Central Pennsylvania markets including Harrisburg, Lancaster and York. SureBeam Corporation will
supply the irradiated fresh ground beef products to Weis Markets.

SureBeam's patented technology utilizes electricity as an energy source to irradiate fresh ground beef, greatly reducing the threat of E. coli, Listeria and Salmonella. The SureBeam process also extends the freshness and shelf life of irradiated ground beef products. Since it is known as a cold process, it does not significantly increase the temperature of the ground beef being processed. Beginning February 2, Weis Markets will sell fresh irradiated ground beef in 1 lb. packages - 85% lean and 1 lb. packages - 93% lean patties. The packages will be clearly labeled and marked as being processed through the SureBeam method.

"Throughout our company, our associates work diligently to maintain the highest food safety standards," said Weis Markets President Norman S. Rich. "SureBeam fresh irradiated ground beef offers customers an extra level of safety without sacrificing quality or taste. Every day our customers get our best including more options and better quality. It's what they have come to expect from Weis Markets."

Food irradiation has been approved by the Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. In addition, the American Medical Association, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American Dietetic Association and the U.S. Surgeon General have endorsed this process. Studies have shown that food irradiation improves food safety, particularly for people vulnerable to food borne illnesses, including those who are diabetics, transplant patients, cancer patients, HIV/AIDS patients, and the elderly. Experts note that food irradiation is not a substitute for proper food handling. People using ground beef products should: clean all surfaces touched by ground beef products; avoid cross contamination with other foods and take care to use separate cutting boards and utensils for cooked and uncooked foods; and cooking ground beef to an internal temperature of 160 degrees F. Customers should also chill food within two hours of purchase or preparation.

Founded in 1912, Weis Markets currently operates 160 stores in six states: Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Virginia and West Virginia. The Company also owns SuperPetz, a pet supply superstore chain with 33 locations in eleven states.

Safeway to Sell Surebeam(r) Processed Fresh Ground Beef in Baltimore and Washington, DC (January 29, 2003) From a press release
SAN DIEGO -- SureBeam Corporation (Nasdaq: SURE) announced January 29th that consumers can now buy SureBeam(R) processed fresh ground beef at all 136 Safeway Eastern Division supermarkets in Maryland, Virginia, Delaware and Washington, D.C. Safeway is offering fresh ground beef products processed with SureBeam Corporation's revolutionary electron beam technology, a process that uses ordinary electricity to safely eliminate the threat of dangerous bacteria from food products.

"Safeway's primary goal is to provide customers with the highest quality food products available," said Roger Herding, Safeway Eastern Division Marketing Vice President. "As consumers have become increasingly concerned about the safety and wholesomeness of the ground beef they are purchasing, we believe that this product will help ease their concerns." Safeway is selling SureBeam processed fresh ground beef in one-pound packages of 85-percent and 93-percent lean.

"It's exciting to know that consumers throughout the Baltimore/Washington, D.C. area can now purchase SureBeam fresh ground beef at their local Safeway stores," stated Larry Oberkfell, SureBeam Chairman, CEO and President. "By offering this important choice to their customers, Safeway is demonstrating their national leadership in food safety."

Similar to a microwave oven, SureBeam technology uses electricity as an energy source to irradiate harmful bacteria such as E. coli, Listeria, and Salmonella. The SureBeam patented system is based on proven electron beam technology that destroys dangerous bacteria, much like thermal pasteurization does to milk.


Safeway's entry into the market brings to over 2,100 the total number of stores in the Midwest, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic States offering SureBeam processed fresh ground beef. This is in addition to the thousands of supermarkets providing SureBeam processed frozen hamburger patties, which are also provided through home delivery, direct mail and food service.

Safeway's Eastern Division employs approximately 11,000 people and operates 136 stores, including 16 in the District of Columbia, 75 in Maryland, 44 in Virginia and one in Delaware. Safeway (NYSE: SWY), a Fortune 50 company, is one of the largest food and drug retailers in North America with annualized sales exceeding $34 billion. The company operates approximately 1,755 stores in the United States and Canada with a total workforce of nearly 200,000 employees.

Giant Eagle Introduces Irradiated Beef (January 23, 2003) Pittsburgh Post Gazette via FSNET
Supermarket chain Giant Eagle was cited as debuting ground beef treated by the SureBeam electron beam process in Pittsburgh-area stores without fanfare Jan. 12. The story says that educational point-of-purchase brochures and signs introduced meat department customers to the concept and safety benefits of irradiated ground beef, nattily packaged in opaque, one-pound tubes similar to ready-to-bake cookie dough.

Without divulging any actual sales figures for the first-week rollout of the new product, Rob Borella, director of corporate communications for Giant Eagle Inc., was quoted as saying, "sales were pretty much what we expected." Giant Eagle Inc., which encompasses 124 corporate stores and 89 franchises in Western Pennsylvania, north-central West Virginia and Maryland, is the first in the region to offer irradiated meat products in the form of 80 percent lean/20 percent fat and 93 percent lean/7 percent fat ground beef. Last week and this week, the supermarket chain is offering an introductory price of $2.29 (regularly $2.49) for the one-pound tube of 80/20, and $2.99 per pound (regularly $3.29) for the 93/7. (Prices for irradiated meats average 5 percent to 10 percent higher than their untreated counterparts.)

Upcoming Irradiation Workshop in Oregon -The Oregon Beef Council is hosting an Irradiation workshop Tuesday March 4, 2003 from 9:30 am - 2:30 pm at Portland's Food Innovation Center (FIC). (The FIC is directly across from the Oregon Beef Council's offices.) A 9:30 AM registration check-in and a 10:00 AM start are planned. Please call Dianne Byrne Johnston at the Oregon Beef Council office at 503/274-2333 to reserve your spot.

World Irradiation Congress to be held in May 2003 at Chicago: The World Irradiation Congress is scheduled for May 5 to 7, 2003, at Chicago's McCormick Place. The international event will provide a comprehensive technical and scientific forum to promote the technology and benefits of food irradiation around the globe. The congress will examine the future of food irradiation in a comprehensive program that includes analysis of the: Global situation and outlook on the use of irradiation as a sanitary and phytosanitary treatment; Major markets and market trends; Technological developments, such as irradiation facilities and quality assurance; Investment opportunities; A visit to a commercial food irradiator; a buyer-seller business conference and technical sessions.

The keynote speaker on May 5 (Monday) will be Dr. Elsa Murano, USDA Undersecretary for Food Safety, speaking on "Food safety from farm to fork: the role of food irradiation."

Other top speakers include the CEOS of FMI and GMA; the presidents of IFT and the International Union of Food Science and Technology; the director of National Food Safety & Toxicology Center at Michigan State University; and top officials from the World Health Organization, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, the International Consultative Group on Food Irradiation, the Minnesota Beef Council and such companies as Huisken Meat Co., International Dairy Queen Inc., Food Technology Service Inc. and Hawaii Pride Inc.

For more information and to register, contact:
The National Food Safety & Toxicology Center
Michigan State University
165 Food Safety & Toxicology Building
Michigan State University
East Lansing, MI 48824-1302
517/432-3100
Website: www.foodsafe.msu.edu/Congress/congress.html or www.foodsafe.msu.edu.

Food Irradiation Education Activities:
The Minnesota Beef Council, in cooperation with SureBeam Corporation will be assisting with, conducting or participating in the following irradiation education activities:

Minneapolis, MN; February 23-25, UP Show (Upper Midwest Hospitality Show)
Portland, OR; March 4, 2003: Oregon Beef Council Irradiation Workshop
Raleigh, NC; March 19, 2003: North Carolina Beef Council Irradiation Workshop
Texarkana, AR; April 5-6: American National CattleWomen Region IV Workshop
Harrisburg, PA; April 23-24, 2003: Central Atlantic States' Association of Food and Drug Officials
Monterey, CA: April 28-29: American National CattleWomen Region VI Workshop
St. Cloud, MN; May 1-2, 2003: Minnesota Dietetic Association Conference
Great Falls, MT; May 2-4: American National CattleWomen Region V Workshop
Chicago, IL; May 5-7, 2003: First World Conference on Food Irradiation
Ft. Pierre, SD; June 20-22: American National CattleWomen Region VII Workshop
Green Bay, WI; July 13-15, 2003: National Association of County Agricultural Agents
Jasper, IN; Sept. 23, 2003: Indiana Environmental Health Association Conference

Ronald F. Eustice
Executive Director
Minnesota Beef Council
2850 Metro Drive # 426
Bloomington, MN 55425
USA
Phone: 952/854-6980
Fax: 952/854-6906

and the award for longest post ever goes to...

Ldvee 8067 next week is a high optimistic guess

Ben Dow 7700

T_Bone Dow 7581

Kendricks 7462 for next week.

SURE to announce earning or lack of earnings today

Be SURE to step out of the way before it comes crashing down!

(Just kidding, I really have no opinion on this stock.)

You are probably right about the crashing.

As of right now it is Ldvee and ben in the chase for winner of the Dow.

Dow closed at 7914 today.

We need aabout a 30 point drop tomorrow.

yeah, that 30 point drop will be in SURE

oh well

not a real bad CC, not a real good CC

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I am ready to concede victory to the wise old stock tout, Ldvee.

Market would have to have an incredible collapse today for anyone else to win.

SURE wish the market would recognize some of this new wonderful technology which electrocutes/fumigates pussy.

8258 for next week.

Dow 8059

Dow 8227 next week.

7900 for Ben

you guys got me boxed in

8059 and 8258 and Ben's 100 point rule, jeeeeez

EZ lover is cheating so can I?

aren't a lot of earnings reports happening next week? aren't they all going to be great compared to a year ago?

8358, it's a SURE thang

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I only eat my pussy sin condom.

Ldvee 8358, it's a SURE thang

Kendricks 8258 for next week

Ezeamante Dow 8227 next week.(adjusted to 8158 (99 point rule for newbie's)

T_Bone Dow 8059

Ben 7900 for Ben

Ben looks like a lock this week

Date__________DOW
17-Aug-02_____8778.06
24-Aug-02_____8872.96
31-Aug-02_____8663.50
08-Sep-02_____8427.20
13-Sep-02_____8312.69
21-Sep-02_____7986.02
28-Sep-02_____7701.45
05-Oct-02_____7528.40
13-Oct-02_____7850.29
18-Oct-02_____8322.40
26-Oct-02_____8443.99
02-Nov-02_____8517.64
08-Nov-02_____8537.13
15-Nov-02_____8579.09
23-Nov-02_____8804.84
29-Now-02_____8896.09
08-Dec-02_____8645.77
15-Dec-02_____8433.71
27-Dec-02_____8303.78
14-Jan-03_____8785.98
18-Jan-03_____8586.74
05-Feb-03_____8026.04
11-Feb-03_____7920.11
15-Feb-03_____7908.80
24-Feb-03_____8018.11
average_______8354.03

Ldvee,

Thanks for the update.

How about an "upday" for SURE.

Kendricks,

I thought you might find this interesting.

Very little premium offered on this stock. Maybe I should have just walked away last week and taken my $500 loss.

Options Account
Corixa
Price
Date Description Price Per Share

12-05-02 Bought 1000 Shares CRXA $8,145.00 $8.15

12-05-02 Sold 10 Jan. 7 1/2 Calls ($1,595.00) ($1.60)

12-05-02 Net Cost Per Share $6,550.00 $6.55

1-21-03 Sold 10 Feb 5 Calls ($1,095.00) ($1.10)

1-21-03 Net Cost Per Share $5,455.00 $5.46

2-21-03 Bought 10 Feb. 5 Calls $655.00 $0.66

2-21-03 Net Cost Per Share $6,110.00 $6.11

2-21-03 Sold 10 April 5 Calls ($995.00) ($1.00)

2-21-03 Net Cost Per Share $5,115.00 $5.12

The beat goes on

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030224/245400_1.html

The next technological revolution - I went TV shopping at a high end store yesterday and learned all about digital TV. Couldn't help but thinking that this is the true integration of the TV and computer. It's pretty much up to your imagination but it looks like watching TV with a keyboard like device on your lap is in the near future - interactive TV. I bet many, many dot coms
will be getting into the biz. Lots of software/networking work to do before the 2006 FCC deadline to go completely digital.

I might be buying some high tech equities this year. Maybe a specialized fund to start.

Just a thought.

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That is interesting Ben. I hate taking a loss, but sometimes, it seems better to cut losses on a loser stock, to use the money elsewhere.

Matha Stuart's nemesis, IMCL, looks to be a good covered call trade at current levels, for the March 12.5's.

My best bet is that it hangs around five for a couple of months and them I cam maybe make $400-$500 when I sell the May or June $5 calls.I could still make a decent return considering I only have a net of $5100.00 invested at this time. Around 20% annual return.

IMCL does look interesting( nice premium), but i just don't like biotechnology stocks. This company at least is receiving some income from other pharmaceutical companies.

I'm only in IMCL because of the premium received and the downside protection offered, and the liklihood that even if it does drop to below 12.5 from here, any loss could be recouped by selling April options. I certainly wouldn't buy and hold this SOB.

There is always the chance of a dramatic drop, of course, which is why I only put about 15% of my trading capital on this trade.

I was going to say, IMCL appears to have good support at around $10.00.

The problem with most of these biotechs is that they have no source of earning other than interest on their cash reserves and contributions from the large pharmaceuticals who are betting on some break through drug which is rarely sucessfully developed. Most of these research "scientist" are better at hyping stock than they are at finding cures to diseases's.

BenwhoboughtAdvancedTissue(ATISQ.OB)atfourdollarsandsoldattendollars

Well benosaurus you got your SURE request, up 2.2%. Not bad considering the triple digit DOW loss. The rule of 72 says that it will double in 72/2.2 = 32 days at that rate.

Did you hear in the CC that a chicken producer is jumping on the bandwagon soon? Probably Tyson's.

Also the scuttlebutt is that Walmart is coming soon to the Surebeam beef retailers.

Hmmm, a new digital TV for FREEEEEE. Maybe a new car for the chica especial too!!! I'm getting tired of riding around in that bucket of Mexican bolts. She needs a Jetta.

I have been looking at $1,000 Toyota's and Honda's.

She wants my old Lincoln Towncar.

Is there some kind of rule for importing used cars to Mex like it has to be at least 5 years old?

How old is the towncar? I'd like to ride shotgun in one of those through TJ.

Yes, there are several rules and it will cost you around $500 to register and get Mexican license plates on a car purchased in the U.S.

Here is some information I was given regarding using an agency to do all the work. Apparently you have to give them your car overnight. They will also give you all the rules and costs. I was told this guy is honest and was given his name by a Mexican (Jorge Jimenez) who now lives in Mexico City.

If your car is not registered properly it will be taken away(forever)unless you can bribe the cop.

Telephone: 683-6885 in TJ Owner Rodolfo Estrada
I was told he speaks some english

Address:

Agencia De Importaciones
Jose Maria Larroque#399
COL FEDERAL
Tijuana B.C.

Near the border and around the corner from the pharmacies as you walk into Mexico and make the right turn at the turnstiles away from the turnstiles that lead to the main yellow cabs.

It is a 1992 Lincoln Towncar that belonged to my deceased father. It has 71,000 miles and is in perfect shape. Rides like a dream. White with red leather interior. It is bigger than a train. I will probably never sell it.

SP loves the car and will occassionally ask me to bring the Lincoln instead of my regular car which is a Jeep Grand Cherokee that drives like a truck.

thanks for the info, she knows the rules having just bought a car for her son in the US and taking it to mex, yes, she bought it, and yes her son is older than SP.

I know you find that hard to imagine. Like I tell her - "mi gusta las cosas viejas" - that usually gets me a friendly slap.

I want your towncar!!!

stock market sucks, I'm getting tired of Bush's

WAR ON THE ECONOMY

Finally an up day in the market.

This war thing is really hurting.

Why doesn't Exxon move up?

Better question. Why doesn't SURE move up?

BenwhowouldliketousetheSUREtreamentonaBush

The stock market is great, and my IMCL trade is doing great too. You guys fucking whine too much.

Fuck You Kendricks!!!

I am tired of losing money why you keep making it.

Damn amateur.

Benwhoisjeleouofkendrick

Here's another tip for you - buy NVDA, and sell the March 12.5 calls. If they are not assigned, continue to sell the following month's 12.5 calls until they are assigned.

This is a good solid company selling for a fair price, which is offering a good chance for a 7% return in only 16 trading days, as well as offering respectable downside protection.

In my opinion, the risk of not being in this trade is greater than the risk of being in it, given the fact that, even if it dips from here, selling the future 12.5's will continue to generate income.

Disclaimer: you could lose all your money in this or any other trade, there is no SURE thing, blah blah blah.

DOW
17-Aug-02____8778.06____
24-Aug-02____8872.96_____1.07
31-Aug-02____8663.50____-2.42
08-Sep-02____8427.20____-2.80
13-Sep-02____8312.69____-1.38
21-Sep-02____7986.02____-4.09
28-Sep-02____7701.45____-3.70
05-Oct-02____7528.40____-2.30
13-Oct-02____7850.29_____4.10
18-Oct-02____8322.40_____5.67
26-Oct-02____8443.99_____1.44
02-Nov-02____8517.64_____0.86
08-Nov-02____8537.13_____0.23
15-Nov-02____8579.09_____0.49
23-Nov-02____8804.84_____2.56
29-Nov-02____8896.09_____1.03
08-Dec-02____8645.77____-2.90
15-Dec-02____8433.71____-2.51
27-Dec-02____8303.78____-1.56
14-Jan-03____8785.98_____5.49
18-Jan-03____8586.74____-2.32
05-Feb-03____8026.04____-6.99
11-Feb-03____7920.11____-1.34
15-Feb-03____7908.80____-0.14
24-Feb-03____8018.11_____1.36
01-Mar-03____7891.08____-1.61


Benosaurus and SP are the winners for last week.

I'll go for 7800 for next friday

Still waiting for RTEs to be FDA electrocution approved. SURE is a risky bet. Sitting tight on other investments, decreased cash position due to decreasing the debt load, at least I know I made about 8% on that deal.

from another message board:

"Wal-Mart Super Center in Rochester, NY, now has on the shelf Surebeam Ground Beef. $2.63 and $2.33 a pound --in chub style packages.
Meat manager said they had it on the shelf about a week."

If true this is excellent news for SURE. No offical announcements yet about Wal-Mart carrying electrocuted food. If true, and if there is a press release, there will be a good pop.

Ben in late at 7900 again!

I'll go for 8099.

KendricksI'll go for 8099.

Ben in late at 7900 again!

Ldvee I'll go for 7800 for next friday

Any other losers want to guess this week?
You have until the end of the day (Ben's rules).

T_Bone Ezeamante?

Dow 7701

KendricksI'll go for 8099.

Ben in late at 7900 again!

Ldvee I'll go for 7800 for next friday

T_Bone Dow 7701

KendricksI'll go for 8099.

Ben in late at 7900 again!

Ldvee I'll go for 7800 for next friday

T_Bone Dow 7701

T_Bone has to be 7700

Sorry Ben - I was confused with your (99 point rule for newbies)

Could we have a list of Ben's Rules - or is a continual work in progress?

or is a continual work in progress?

YES!!!

BEN RULES....

Market SURE is twisting and turning today.

A SURE wish certain promoted stocks(not mentioning names) would get into the bull meat, I mean bull market mode.