It looks good to me.

Also if Iraq sends some chemical or bio stuff on the troops, I have to believe the market will go down.

Yes, there is a risk of a sharp downturn. Still, there are some very good money making opportunities available. Anyone who waits until we are back to "normal" before taking risks will be waiting a long time, I believe.

WEL at .84!!!

I just may buy some of this instead of driving all the way to Las Vegas.

The REGN April 15 calls are looking pretty damn good right now....

a DOW drop of 4.6% this week to 8147 means that t bone is the winner. A much better week than I expected especially considering that with all America's warfare technology we're finding it tough invading another country because its government and apparently many citizens don't like it, gee, imagine that. Looks like we're switching from "liberation" to occupation.

Add to that the major inconsistancy in the admin's request for billions more war money one day and then a cut in tax revenues the next day and it's really incredible that we didn't drop more. Good thing the prez isn't the CINC of the budget. Sorry, but I think Bush is a fucking moron. Maybe a good war prez because he'll never be accused of thinking too much, but still "reel stoopid." I shutter every time I see the idiot on TV. What an embarrassment. I can see the history books - a forgettable, mediocre, one term President, not known for intellectual prowess, elected by a minority of voters largely due to the fact that he was the son of a former president.

At least his barber isn't letting his eyebrows grow together.

grumble, grumble, grumble

DOW 8000 next week.

Oh well

DOW 7900.

Bush will be remembered by history as the brave warrior president who crushed America's enemies, after suffering the worst attack ever to occur on American soil by an external enemy.

I'm voting a straight Republican ticket from here on out, something I had NEVER even imagined doing before this war. It's great to finally have a prez with the balls to do the right thing.

For anyone looking for a legitimate cause to protest, I suggest that irradiated beef be boycotted.

From: http://www.sustainable-city.org/articles/irradiat.htm

In one experiment, seven times more benzene was found in cooked, irradiated beef than in cooked, non-irradiated beef. Some URPs are completely new chemicals that have not even been identified, let alone tested for toxicity.

In addition, irradiation destroys essential vitamins and minerals, including vitamin A, thiamine, B2, B3, B6, B12, folic acid, C, E, and K; amino acid and essential polyunsaturated fatty acid content may also be affected. A 20 to 80 percent loss of any of these is not uncommon.

In a third study, animals eating a diet of irradiated food experience weight loss and miscarriage, almost certainly due to irradiation-induced vitamin E dietary deficiency.

Other studies indicate serious health problems associated with eating irradiated food. A compilation of 12 studies carried out by Raltech Scientific Services, Inc. under contract with the U.S. government examined the effect of feeding irradiated chicken to several different animal species. The studies indicated the possibility of chromosome damage, immunotoxicity, greater incidence of kidney disease, cardiac thrombus, and fibroplasia. In reviewing Raltech’s findings in 1984, USDA researcher Donald Thayer asserted, “A collective assessment of study results argues against a definitive conclusion that the gamma-irradiated test material was free of toxic properties.”

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I think I am going to publicize these facts all over the Internet, and warn people on discussion groups to sell any shares they may own of companies that sell or promote this deadly, insidious technology.

I SURE am glad I don't own any stock in one of these companies.

(Message edited by kendricks on March 29, 2003)

An interesting tidbit for you guys, SURE's parent company is a subcontractor for my little company. Look for a major increase in their share price shortly, after I pay them their invoice.

The $40 you pay to SURE's parent company might increase the parent company's book value for a moment, but I doubt it will salvage the share prices of a company peddling food irradiation technology that destroys essential vitamins and minerals, including vitamin A, thiamine, B2, B3, B6, B12, folic acid, C, E, and K, and is also believed by many to cause other various helth problems.

Kendricks your just pissed because I called your hero president a fucking moron, sorry, I over-stated the facts, he's just dumb fuck who would be selling insurance if not for his family.

"I think I am going to publicize these facts all over the Internet, and warn people on discussion groups to sell any shares they may own of companies that sell or promote this deadly, insidious technology."

hehehe, that's funny.

I recommend you try the yahoo SURE message board.

Fuck SURE, fuck this piece of shit company. Since a year ago I thought this was shit technology.

Meat packing industry need to have more hygiene conditions. They'll have stinking equipment with bacteria, who gives a crap as long as it is going to recieve radiation treatment anyway. Would you eat a cow that died of radiation? Would you eat a chicken that died of radiation? Why should you eat chicken or cow meat that has been through radiation? With shitty meat handling standards to boot.

Who knows 20 years down the line what health risks there are? It is hard to establish links like cancer etc. The FDA is a bunch of corrupt pussies getting bribes from big companies. Why is there no labeling for irradiated meat? For genetically modified food? The consumer cannot know what they are buying? Some of the guidelines are just ridiculous.

Explorer, what do mean by a "parent company"? SURE isn't owned by another company. Titan in San Diego invented the technology and spun off SURE.

DICK!

All irradiated meats are labelled as such.

It used to be that with many small meat processors, if one put out a batch of bad meat it was an isolated event and although sickening and maybe lethal for the people involved, not much to worry about. Now ground beef is processed on an industrial scale and contamination from a few badly butchered cows get spread into 1000s and 1000s pounds of food and eaten by 1000s and 1000s of people. SURE has an answer to that problem. Simple.

Well said, Dick. I certainly don't want to eat shit coated irradiated dead cow flesh, and I don't know anyone else who does, either.

I think I'm going to make this my new pet cause, and start off by writing to my elected representatives to demand legislation forcing all irradiated meat products to be clearly labelled as such, with a warning of their potential side effects.

You should also go to the Yahoo message board on SURE to add your comments, Dick.

The only problem, Ldvee, is that the "solution" also destroys essential vitamins and minerals in the meat, including vitamin A, thiamine, B2, B3, B6, B12, folic acid, C, E, and K, and is also believed by many to cause other various health problems.

Many, many many more vitamins are destroyed cooking meat. You still cook it don't you??

You can write your elected representatives if you like about labelling, but the rules are already that it has to be labelled with both the radura symbol and have the words "treated by irradiation". Just like milk is labelled "pasteurized". But you probably drink raw milk ;-). You know, many misinformed people were against the pasteurization of milk in its early days.

Guys, it's a good technology that has been studied thoroughly, it is benign and does in fact destroy harmful bacteria. Surebeam's angle is a new one though, the radiation comes from essentially an x-ray machine modified to put out either beta rays or x-rays. Earlier schemes used gamma rays from Co60, which is a dangerous material and the dose delivered to the food was hard to control.

The Food & Drug Administration, U.S. Department of Agriculture, American Medical Association, Centers for Disease Control, American Dietetic Association, National Center for Food Safety & Technology, U.S. Public Health Service, Mayo Clinic, World Health Organization, U.N. Food & Agriculture Organization, U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, U.S. Surgeon General, American Public Health Association all endorse the use of ionizing radiation to kill foodborne bacteria.

But Kendricks, if you choose to believe Naderites, go ahead. But don't forget, their agenda is to oppose anything that is "nuclear".

TJ street food, now there's dangerous food, and we all love it.

I love TJ tacos and hot dogs. I hope I am still able to get radiation free meat in the USA in coming years, or else I'll be buying all my meals from the Coahuila taco carts.

It's ironic that Mexico has better hot dogs than the US.

As far as irradiated meat goes, I won't buy it. It's more expensive and all you need to do is cook the food anyway.

I'm just waiting for the FDA to approve ready-to-eat meats for irradiation to eliminate the listeria bug and then I'm out. Unfortunately this fucking war is over-shadowing all profit making endeavours.

I only do this for the money. I'm puzzled by folks who "invest with a conscience", I think their priorities are too entangled. Unless, that is of course, being an "environmentalista" is profitable. So far, I think not, but who knows, someday I might be an environmentalist. Do they have any mutual funds I can check out $^).??

Holy Shit Kendricks!!!!

Ben picks 7750 Dow

Ldvee DOW 8000 next week.

Kendricks DOW 7900

Ben picks 7750 Dow

Ken Ken,

I think all your talk about SURE has created bad karma for you

Fuck! I think so, Ben. I bought back the worthless REGN options, and am hoping for a bounce.

I am sorry for talking shit about SURE. Really, I am. It is a great company. I love irradiated meat.

Will REGN come back up to 15 now?

No, but since your post it is up .05 from where it was.

So just 160 more posts and I'll be there?

I'm sorry SURE.

I'm sorry SURE.

I'm sorry SURE.

Like I said he's just pissed because I don't like George Bush. He's also concerned about people not getting their essential vitamins from their cheeseburgers. And I understand, afterall, that is important.

Kendricks,

"I love irradiated meat."

You wrote that as I was writing my last post. Glad to hear you've changed your mind. Being flexible is a sign of an intelligent individual.

I was talking to a high up executive from a fast food chain on Saturday night. She does not exactly embrace SURE, but said there is some talk that the FDA will require fast food chains to use irradiated meat.

Her observation was that it would raise the cost of the products they sale. She did know that Dairy Queen is now voluntarily using the SURE process.

The Gov is now in the midst of implementing very stringent testing procedures in meat/food processing facilities to look for E-coli, salmonella, and listeria. Folks are worried that large scale processing will lead to large scale sickness. And the insurance companies that cover the processors are REALLY worried. DQ has been constantly increasing the number of outlets offering "electronically pasteurized" burgers.(I love that euphemism).

It would great for Mr. Jack to offer the stuff.

"there is some talk that the FDA will require fast food chains to use irradiated meat"

Oh man, great news.

Great news is a stretch.

She did not seem very enthused about irradiated meat.

Dow 8100

T_BONE DOW 8100

Ldvee DOW 8000 next week.

Kendricks DOW 7900

Ben picks 7750 Dow

OK, great rumor.

I doubt the FDA will ever require it. They'll just set "purity" standards and let industry figure out how to meet them.

Let's see, the DOW was at 8194 the day we started to invade Iraq, it's now at 7992. So far of little consequence, except for all the dead people, destroyed buildings, and increased worldwide hatred for Americans. I'm SURE it's a good thing though, we're getting rid of those WMDs.

Ben,

Share this with your "high up executive from a fast food chain".

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/033103_nw_e_coli.html

This would not have happened with irradiated meat.

Perhaps her "enthusiasm" will increase a bit. If she's not concerned about the safety of her product and whether or not the food she peddles makes people sick, maybe she'll be concerned about the health of her bottom line.

After taking some political heat, Halliburton is stepping out of the kitchen

Damn congressional oversite committes.

These Democrats just don't believe in a guy making a small billion or two profit.

re Hallibuton

I'll be damned, mom must have given Jr. some advice.

Sorry guys, I'll get off the bush bashing one of these days, like after the next election.

In other words if HAL had got the big contract you bash Bush and if HAL doesn't get the big contract you bash Bush.

Spoken like a true liberal that never lets facts get in his way.

Well, at least Ldvee has promised to shut the fuck up after Bush gets re-elected.

REGN is taking it in the ass again today, but at least it is now declining at a slower rate. I wonder what its future holds...

If I recall REGN has about enough money left to last a year.

Since their number one product for obesity has been basically a failure, maybe it is time to bite the bullet.

Who in the hell really knows??

Did you sell the 7 1/2 calls yesterday?

No, they weren't worth enough to make it seem worthwhile.

who's bush?? never heard of him.

I'll stop now.

I'm also watching VH1 instead of CNN from here on out.

What war, is there a war somewhere?

wadda bout SURE??

great investment huh?

jeez, I'm just a stupid, horny, liberal

Kendricks, why did you suddenly turn chicken and superstitious apologizing to sure?

How many of you guys there own this stock? Sell it b4 it drops further. Take Dick Johnson's advice.

Dick, I'm never superstitious or chicken, and I don't believe in karma - unless one of my stocks drops over 70%. I was shellshocked when I wrote that. Please forgive me.

DICK!

I'm seriously considering your advice and swallowing a $16K loss. SURE failed to sell what they had planned and the future appears bleak.

These are tough decisions. I'm going to make a few phone calls. But my finger is on the trigger.

Damn Ldvee,

You are not only a liberal Bush hater, but gutless.

I am holding on to SURE for the big payoff when we get a Democratic congress and President so we can get back into more government regulation over our lives. I am SURE the FDA will then start requiring all citizens to eat electrocuted meant.

I am now apolitical and do not have enough knowledge to form an opinion on foreign policy.

Hopefully I'll soon be out of SURE and then I'll turn the account I manage over to the pro that manages the other accounts and then I will no longer be concerned about the day-to-day market.

I am also switching from verticle to horizontal mongering and travelling solo or with buddies to mongering destinations.

God, I've been doing everything wrong.

La Dopey Vida

Ldvee

Horizonal is good, but you need to have at least one girl down south who thinks you are verticle.

Are you serious about dumping SURE?

I own 1,000 shares at a cost of $4.69 per share and could sell at $3.12 today. I would have a loss of about $1600 if I sold now, but that is better than having a $4,690 loss.

What do you think?

Got you by a factor of 10.

I dunno. Got so busy today at work I didn't even think about. 12 hours of trying to make sense of nonsense.

The BIG problem is the chica especial. She's complaining about not enough dough, supporting granny, two sons, sister, nieces, nephews, I know them all, broken car, she really does have money problems but I'm about to bail because that's all I hear about. Good thing mom and dad are dead, or she would be supporting them too. I told her a long time ago that I give her all I'm going to but she keeps pressing. But if I bail her problems are even bigger. She makes a pretty good buck off of me and is the best fuck I've ever had. I'm not showing up this week.

Fucking women, putas, straight, whatever.

I have found in every instance, the more you give them the more they expect. There period of graditude lasts about as long as it takes for me to make my next deposit in their panocha.

Ben, stop copying me and calling another monger gutless. Trading stocks is about smarts, not guts. I'm the one and original Tuff Guy.

Kendricks, 70% is brutal. How much do u have vested there?

ldvee, while I'm no good at being noble when it comes to buying stocks, I'm smart enough to know if the public does not like the idea of a company the stocks will not take off.

What's with all you guys picking stocks that have nice sounding symbols. Well, WEL is not well. And sure, SURE is not sure. Grow a friggin brain guys. What kind of earning potential does this company have? After they sell a bunch of radiation machines to meat processing comapnies, then what? It's not like millions of households gonna buy them. And it's not a stock that people like to own regardless of earing potential.

Is Ben spreading rumours of FDA requiring meat to be irradiated? There is no way the FDA or congress will force meat to be irradiated.

How many people die from salmonella or e coli every year? A lot less then the number of people that got run over by semis. And 10,000 times less then the number of people who died of smoking or heart diseases.

But if you have a kid or grandkid, how do we know if they are eating irradiated food for the next 70-80 yrs of his/her life, it won't be a direct or indirect cause of cancer? A lab rat only lives what, one or two yrs?

ldvee, $16k loss, if 50cents loss per share it is 32,000 shares and you plunked down $100,000? That's $100K tied up not earning money PLUS making you worry. Yesterday many many(most) stocks went up 4-5%, which means a $4000-5000 earing but instead you got zilch holding on to UNSURE. Hold on to it and worry? What for?

Opportunity costs, Ben.

And BTW, ldvee, fuck the pro money mgrs. I'm better off doing my own thing. I can't say the same about everyone though.