The U.S. Supreme Court had a glowing opportunity to drive a spike through the heart of affirmative racism err I mean action and today they wimped out. Sure, they did a little hand waving to minimize some of the abuses of the past, and that is maybe just maybe a good thing. In the same way that methadone maintenance is a good thing, or the neutron bomb, or thigh cream.

I’m sure there are some well meaning (yet ignorant) people at this website who support “affirmative action” policies. Then of course there are the diversity-nut bean-counter quota-mongers who will do anything to hire “their own” in their own little psychotic victimesque war against the white (and sometime Asian) male. If you have met one of these hateful pieces of shit you know what I am talking about. They tend to run in groups like termites and eat at the foundation of a free and open society.

Now don’t get me wrong.

I’ve lived in the world of “diversity” with the best of ‘em. I’ve done my homework on cultural sensitivity and cultural awareness, multiculturalism, and more. I’ve learned… in the classroom and in the trenches… I’ve learned that cultural awareness and sensitivity are very good things. I’ve learned that some of the staunchest “diversity” advocates are among the most racist people I know. And I’ve also concluded that if we want a fairer, more egalitarian society, we need to….

KILL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

The brain-dead overly-entitled members of the growing yet empowered rainbow stupidocracy don’t get it. Discrimination is discrimination. Racism is racism. Prejudice is Prejudice. All that “rainbow” shit is just window dressing for PC race-based stupidity. Why should the qualified be discriminated against so the non-qualified can be given special treatment?

It’s fucking obvious. The content of your character should not take a back seat to the color of your skin. But the Supreme Court has left the door open for the formerly great UofM to continue its racist policies, albeit tidied up for the masses.

The Constitution and the Civil Rights Act must mean just what they say or they are meaningless.

If there are any fucking bean counters at this site who don’t understand that I am completely correct, allow me to say “fuck you” in advance.

And for your "righties," fuck you too. Take your homeland security measures, war-mongering and fuckfest with the religious right, and shove all these things up your ass. Or up Ronnie's nearly-dead ass. Either way is fine with me.

Peace, Love, and Understanding

Dogster
Recovering Lefty

Can you spell Reaction Formation?

Fuck you Dogster. You are only trying to incite a riot. Although I cant claim to understand your point enough to be properly outraged..I feel as if I should be.

Dogster just hates life. Time to take him to the vet for a shot ...

Take a valium or 3.

-Superman-

doh, i picked the wrong week to quit posting. man, what coulda been.

Superman lubba me

Dogster, you are absolutely correct. A person makes it or not on their own efforts, not on the color of their skin.

As a white male I have been continually fucked by affirmative action because many opportunities have been awarded to a lesser qualified individual.

White males have no rights and it's open season on them in the US.

MachoPanzon

Save the Males

Usually people who are so passionately against AA are racists. That's been my observation.

I could give two shits about AA ... believe me, life is good when you're white. I have no complaints.

-Superman-

Yes Machopanzon you as a white males have 95% of the white collar jobs and the 5% for the rest of the non-white population has trully screwed you out of an opportunity.

AA is broken and should be fixed but both sides look at the extreams. I don't know how to fix it, and i don't think the current interperations are 100% correct either but people are never judged on there content and charater in the beginning.

If so there would not be stupid comments about 195 African Americans as part of some group visiting Rio.

Posting these sorts of tirades on our board only serves to split our community for no good reason. But since it was posted, and I have had to suffer by reading the original post with all its invective, may I suggest that it would more appropriately be posted on the board at www.bitteroldwhiteman.com.

Test Your Racism...

LOL, Superman. Ya had to dish out the "racist" thing. Trying to win a popularity contest again? Such the "dramatist."

Not that I doubt your keen observational skills or anything... but lets get objective about who is racist and who isn't.

Lots of people like to launch into egalitarian bullshit speeches about how they aren't racist, and they love to call others racist. Unless you've dealt with your own racial biases in an adult way (doubtful), you are probably loaded full of racist biases.

Assuming that your IQ is high enough (LOL), you should take some of the IAT tests (5 min or less) at the following site.

http://www.tolerance.org/hidden_bias/

Alternatively,

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

If you generally rate low in terms of racial biases (like me), then all the power to you. If not, well... you are not alone, according to lots of good research.

Laguy, this IS the off-topic thread. Gimme a fucking break. If you've been around here for awhile you know that we get into it here on all sorts of topics. If you want sugar-coated shit that goes down easy and doesn't offend anyone, then stick to reading Kendricks' light drivel. Otherwise, suck my invective. Or stick to the "on-topic" portion of this site.

There's a growing group of people of multiple races and genders and political affiliations who are well aware of the harms done by affirmative action. For instance, check out the Steele brothers or Thomas Sowell on the right. Malcom X was on top of the key issues in the '60s, but most of you dumbshits (hint: S) didn't know that he's a pioneer here.

Anyway, back to the topic of this thread.... Affirmative action discriminates against otherwise qualified candidates.

Additionally, the issue that has the attention of the more aware multicultural community is that affirmative action ultimately fucks over those it supposedly helps. The underlying premise of AA essentially says that the only way minorities will succeed is if the government legalizes cheating by playing racial favorites. And if a non-white obtains a position, the assumtion by most people (not just whites) is that they got there based on affirmative action, not merit. Those basic issues (a) cause more racial conflict than harmony with regards to racial attitudes, (b) cause extremism regarding racial entitlement issues, and (c) have lots of people realizing that AA ain't gonna solve the equal opportunity issue.

Dogster: Frankly I wouldn't have posted anything in response to your diatribe above if you had kept your Dogster shit in the politics section. But you were SHOUTING all about this shit in the Asia and South America chat rooms as well, and that, my friend, was IMHO very uncool.

Shouting??? Very uncool???

Uh... That would be ONE LINE in each of those chat rooms anouncing an off-topic thread. That's not unusual or a large amount, based on conventions at this site. People were able choose to come here to the off-topic section and participate, or not...

You can deal with it, big guy. If this frustrates you and you find yourself chowing down large buckets full of greasy, fatty food to narc out the strong emotions, no worries. There's always the Atkins diet, which has been posted about ad nauseum.

Don't pull the victim shit on me (as in, "I have had to suffer by reading the original post..."). Nobody forced you to come read my editorial. That was your blessed pointed little choice.

Fortunately, the powers that be at this site aren't brain dead and are open to off-topic discussions and "invective." Just so you'll know... Periodically I check in with Hombre to make sure he's cool with my activities on this site when I editorialize about politics (or reduce "superdud" to apple crisp).

Anyway, I wouldn't dream of doing anything to distress or divide the sacred brotherhood of adult travelers. Whether you are a true Romeo or just a pathetic loser, we are all united by our love of the hobby. We don't discriminate here.

And now back to the off-topic topic...

I am neither for or against AA. Some diveristy in a college campus is good. I'm slightly for it actually.

But I wonder if we really need affirmative action in the sense that I know there are African Americans who can do well in school and some Latinos too. God knows I've dated straight A Mexican American University students. Does AA take away from the fact that a minority student worked hard?

Man, this topic does so little for my libido...

-Dick Johnson

Can we start fucking soon?

Dogster WAS shouting his racist crap on the other boards. The length of the post does not determine whether or not his drivel is shouting - rather, it is SHOUTING BECAUSE AN INFLAMMATORY HEADLINE WAS POSTED IN ALL CAPS.

Keep your off topic posts to the off topic section, Dogster. And at least have the balls to admit you were trying to be inflammatory, you fuck. You spammed every mongering board on this site with an announcement that you are trying to start a race war, and then pretend you did nothing wrong. Fuck you.

Personally, I don't give a shit about this topic. Any white guy in this country who thinks he has no opportunities because of affirmative action is a loser, who would not succeed in life anyway.

I can hear the whines now. "They gave my spot at Princeton to a darkie, Daddy!" Shut the fuck up, you spoiled little daddy's boy.

The same goes for you, dogboy.

White chicks get far less opportunity to sleep with me than ethnic chicks, so I guess that means I actively support affirmative action.

I love AA. If every terma, soapie and freelancer bar and gogo joint wouldwide had the perfect mix of sizes, shapes and ethnic groups, I wouldn't have to fly half way around the world to get asian pussy and then go the other direction for 15 hours to get brazilian bunda. AA and globalization are my best friends (along with astroglide).

In a perfect world Affirmative Action is a bunch of bullshit.

Of course this is not a perfect world and therefore we (all Americans) have the need for AA.

First of all if you are a white male over the age of forty you have had all the breaks economically and socially. (Please don't tell me your specific situation as the previous statement is a generalization that is indisputably).

Second, I grew up in the south where at age 15 in New Orleans, LA the blacks went to terrible schools, all blacks on public transportation had to set at the rear of the bus and snot nosed white kids could simply move the sign on the back of a bus seat toward the rear and a 80 year black women would be forced (BY LAW) to get up and give the white boy her seat.
Any white guys ever have that experience on a daily basis?

Racism in Oklahoma was even worse, where there were some small towns in southern Oklahoma and north Texas that had no blacks in their population and it was widely known that blacks had better not be stopping in town at night for a meal or a place to spend the night. Any white guys ever have that experience on a daily basis?

When I attended the University of Oklahoma in the early 60's there were very few blacks and many of them were attending school strictly because of athletic ability.

So my point is that because of all the racism; many minorities have never had the opportunity to get a good education, never had the opportunity to get a good job and therefore have never been able to live in neighborhoods where their kids could go to a good grade school and high school and get the basic education and social skills necessary for economic advancement.

Now is AA fair? Hell no it is not fair.

Is AA necessary? I feel strongly it is necessary for a period of years until our society can try to make up for its past and present treatment of minorities. Mainly so the intelligent minorities can become successful productive tax paying members of our society. Consider the reduction in money spent by taxpayers, if a large minority population was living in an environment of low crime and high employment.

I am not trying to put myself in the position of a "do gooder" liberal Democrat. In fact my only experience of hiring a minority was a disaster and I would probably be classified by most as a conservative Republican, but the facts or the facts and blacks in particular have been screwed over in this country for over 200 years.

Much like Snapper, I also actively practice sexual affirmative action. In fact, I have only fucked one white chick in the past 13 years.

One of the amusing things here and in much of society is that you can't even raise this topic without being called a racist. Another amusing thing is that people have difficulty disentangling discussions of the very real societal problems (racism, denial of opportunities) from discussions of the solutions (not the extreme version of what masquerades as affirmative action in 2003).

If you took a look at the supposed solution of AA, especially in its current form, you would know that it is causing more harm than good, in terms of decreasing racist attitudes and increasing opportunities in the long run.

In the generation of cool, numb, assimilated stupidity, such discussions are considered impolite or traitorous. I'm saying that in a rational, cost-benefit analysis sort of way. I noticed that all of you were too chicken or stupid to take those IAT racism/hidden bias tests. So keep up the false egalitarian bullshit.

Anyway, I've gotta go to work. More later since you all lubba me.

"I'm saying that in a rational, cost-benefit analysis sort of way."

That was my point, that bottom line it makes economic sense to have some form of AA. I was not addressing the University of Michigan or for that matter any specific form of AA.

KENDRICKS/BEN both of you guys made some really good points, I am sure some of you have travel the world as much as I have, and all you have to do is look around and see the why others live in this world, to be thankful that we live here in the USA.

For ANYONE to take the time to cry and write all that bullshit and to live here in the USA and to be white sounds not only as a LOSER but also like a (BIG SLOPPY FAT PUSSY).

DOGSTER, if you had a life and was living the American dream you wouldn't even have time or even think about AA you be to busy, SO BY ranting the way you did you JUST TOLD US YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER!!!and made nothing of you fuck up life.

DOGSTER! if your life turn out to be SO FUCK up don't look at AA as for the reason your life is FUCK UP just look in the fucking mirror and then you will have your answer WHY you ARE A LOSER AND YOUR LIFE TURN OUT TO BE SO FUCK UP!!

Most people I know and deal with are from all different backgrounds and races and they are TO busy working their asses off and making $$$ and they all have a good life they don't have time to waste BLAMING AA or anyone for them NOT MAKING ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR LIFE.

For anyone not to make it in the USA and to have a successful life ONLY have to BLAME themself.

DOGSTER, the time you took to write all of your BULLSHIT just take that same amount of time to make your FUCK UP LIFE worth living STOP BLAMING AA and everyone for YOUR LACK OF MENTAL DEFICIENCY (failure in intellectual development that results in SOCIAL INCOMPETENCE) and other words DOGSTER YOU ARE A LOSER!!

It's funny you NEVER hear (Donald Trump,Steven Spielberg,Tom Hanks etc.) or anyone in Forbes ranting or crying about AA or blaming anyone for them being a LOSER, its ONLY just your everyday common beer drinking/pick-up truck diving,trailer park living,Walmart shopping, WAFFLE HOUSE eating fuck up like YOU DOGSTER.

DOGSTER, get out of YOUR DOG HOUSE and live life WORK make $$$ and live the American dream and stop having so much HATE in your heart and stop blaming AA and the world for your FUCK UP LIFE it only make real girls/ladies stay away from you and they all run AWAY from you and the ONLY female you have any dealing with are whores.

Most people I know and deal with enjoy life NEVER complain about anyone or AA because they are making something out of their life and they are to busy to have so much HATE in their life.

Damn, you go to RIO and still can't get any PUSSY AND YOU ARE FIND A WAY TO BE UNHAPPY maybe if you stop looking around and blaming everyone maybe you want be such a FUCKING LOSER!!! (even the girls in RIO can tell you are a fucking loser) you must be the LOSER I heard this girl tell this one guy ***(YOU MUST NOT BE SHIT OR NOTHING IN YOUR COUNTRY THIS MUST BE WHY YOU COME TO RIO??) I fell out laughing when she told this fool that I bet that were your PUNK ASS DOGSTER,ha,ha or some clown just like your ass.

BY THE WAY LICK AND KISS MY ASS AND EAT SHIT LIKE THE SMELLY DOG SHIT YOU CALL YOURSELF !!!what a fucking loser ha,ha,

KidCisco

Admin: Politics and political headlines, particularly those not specific to foreign countries, should be kept off the Chat boards. The Off-Topic Discus section was established for these kinds of threads.

DOGSTER FOR PRESIDENT

Kendicks and Kid Crisco--I have only one word to say..."GENIUS".

Sometimes, I think only Bullwinkle and I get it. Oh yea, Sandman too. And some guy names Sven that went to Ireland. Oh...and SOG too. That guy is really a genius.

Thanks for your kind replies. I will respond to them in order of merit.

(1). Ben, you made some excellent points. First, you are obviously correct in highlighting the longstanding racism of the white majority in the US, including the south. Because you are a self-described conservative, you might also acknowledge that your political right has a mixed-to-poor record in supporting civil rights during the 50’s and 60’s especially. Jack Kemp spoke wisely when he said in a 1994 interview, “We Republicans had a great history, and we turned it aside.” Since I was born in the ‘60’s, I obviously took no position on the Civil Rights act of 1964 or the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Even though I clearly have reservations about the current direction of “Affirmative Action,” if I had been old enough in the ‘60s I would have wholeheartedly supported Martin Luther King’s agenda. And trust me, brother, I (Dogster the great) have done my share of pro civil rights work, certainly far more than the fragile losers who reacted negatively to my original post. But the issue is not who was right then, but what is the right course of action now. My current view is that many of our most basic assumptions about racism and civil rights are now wrong or obsolete. Because I am committed to liberal goals (in the larger sense) of a just and inclusive society, my objective is not to strengthen old bigotries, but to discover a stronger basis for the principles of liberty and equal rights in this multiracial society. My ultimate hope is that we find a way to restore a basis for multi-racial hope in an atmosphere of deepening despair, and to enable the crusade against racism to recover the moral high ground it has lost.

So, you are suggesting that many minorities need opportunities for education and to get a good job; this simply makes economic sense, in terms of creating a healthy, productive society and collecting taxes. And I AGREE with you here, but I think that AA works directly against these goals. The fact that AA targets specific races is exactly the problem. It makes AA recipients look needy and lesser than the people who made it without special governmental treatment. And that creates a HUGE racial public relations/racial self-esteem problem. (Malcolm X, a true visionary late in his life, spoke about this problem often. He was well aware of the dangers of feeding a toxic stereotype, unlike the many of the Bozos here). Put in developmental terms that would be comprehensible to the Neanderthals at this website, two wrongs don’t make a right. In the end, this INCREASES the chances that people of color will fail when the AA door gives them priviledge.

Liberal (!) programs like affirmative action have little to do with fighting racism, correcting past problems, or creating true opportunity. Rather, they are aimed at camouflaging the embarrassing reality of black failure (on average) to meet merit standards of academic achievement and economic performance. Even though we now have substantial numbers of Hispanics, Asians, and Middle Easterners in this country, racism remains primarily a black-and-white problem. Many people of various races may not like Korean or Mexican or Isan Thai immigrants for instance (as evidenced by plenty of TRULY racist blather on this site over the last couple years)… BUT there is no systematic belief today in the US that holds these groups to be inferior. Yet four centuries after blacks were brought to this country against their will, the suspicion of black inferiority persists. This suspicion helps to keep racism alive and so hinders progress toward a race-neutral society. Only by recognizing and confronting longstanding cultural pathology and becoming fully competitive with other groups can African Americans discredit racism and join whites and other ethnic groups in claiming the fruits of the American Dream. Giving minorities and especially Blacks a selective “crutch” in the form of AA works in exactly the wrong direction, and creates a huge public relations problem for African Americans.

It is better to ensure that ALL citizens receive good education and the opportunity to get a good job. In other words, keep funding education and social support for everyone and don’t earmark the resources for specific races. THAT's how you build a healthy infrastructure that will work for everyone.

By “cultural pathology”, let me be clear. The main problem faced by blacks TODAY is not “deficient IQ, as suggested by lots of racists and The Bell Curve book, nor is it racial discrimination, as alleged by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and other civil rights activists. Rather, it is a culture that was an adaptation to longstanding historical oppression and trauma but is, in several important respects, dysfunctional today. And it is a culture that is becoming stronger and better defined IN SPITE OF, not because of, the special treatment.

Here’s a quote by Ice T, who gets it: “The mind-set of black folks has to change. The first thing you have to do is admit you’ve been messing up. The best weapon against racism is excellence.”

(2) Machopanzon. You wrote, “Dogster, you are absolutely correct. A person makes it or not on their own efforts, not on the color of their skin. As a white male I have been continually fucked by affirmative action because many opportunities have been awarded to a lesser qualified individual. White males have no rights and it's open season on them in the US.”

This is the concept of “reverse racism,” The vast majority of whites, survey data show, are strongly opposed to racial preferences in favor of minorities. About half of whites insist that such preferences have hurt them a fair amount or a great deal. Lots of people, like many of you losers at this site, would attribute this to what is often called “white backlash.” But plenty of research shows that racial preferences are resisted on principle by large numbers of Americans who are not otherwise hostile to African Americans. To make a long story short, AA is a DIVISIVE policy, that reinforces stereotypes on both sides of the black-white coin.

If you’ve ever attended a modern day “diversity training” or “multicultural seminar”, then you probably know the correctness of Machopanzon’s statement. These things often degenerate into white male bashing, and if you happen to be white at one of these things, you get bashed. Doesn’t matter who you are or what you believe or what you’ve accomplished. You as a white person are excommunicated. Once you’ve been to one of these things and absorbed the prejudicial rage, you immediately realize that our entitlement programs have the effect of increasing, not decreasing racial rage.

(3) Nyl12. You wrote, “AA is broken and should be fixed but both sides look at the extremes. I don't know how to fix it, and i don't think the current interpretations are 100% correct either but people are never judged on their content and character in the beginning. If so there would not be stupid comments about 195 African Americans as part of some group visiting Rio.”

First off, gotta agree with you about the whacked out worries about “brothers in Rio” from the S.Am chat board. It was hilarious in a sad way to see the white flight response. North America is not ready for cornrows in Rio.

And obviously, I agree that AA is broken. As far as extremes are concerned, it is worth noting that AA causes more division, rather than bringing the extremes closer together. It feeds an us against them 2-headed monster because people inherently feel that the other side has discriminated against them. The answer is TRULY equal opportunity in schools, workplaces, etc.

By the way, the “content of their character” line was lifted from Martin Luther King. Damn, I’m gonna have to stop plagiarizing that guy.

(4) DickJohnson. “I am neither for or against AA. Some diveristy in a college campus is good. I'm slightly for it actually. But I wonder if we really need affirmative action in the sense that I know there are African Americans who can do well in school and some Latinos too. God knows I've dated straight A Mexican American University students. Does AA take away from the fact that a minority student worked hard? Man, this topic does so little for my libido...“

This was an honest post, even if it was lacking in anything resembling a well thought out opinion, as is needed in a Jeffersonian-style democracy. Theres no shortage of high IQ/high achieving people from all races, and differences are easily attributed to environment and culture, rather than anything genetic. Yes, AA harms these students. The assumption of most people (of any race) will be that they got special treatment.

(5) GCL – you suck. Your site doesn’t support macs. What is your ftp address? I want to send you some hate mail.

(6) Kidcisco, mi amigo. You R hillaryus. I suggest that you read the U.S. Constitution. It might help you obtain your citizenship papers more rapidly.

(6) Kendricks. Congrats on your hilarious post. Still, you were smarter and more entertaining before you got your nuts cut off at this site.

(7) Admin, allow me to applaud your enlightened policy. I was operating under the mistaken assumption that simply ANNOUNCING an off-topic thread on the chat boards, rather than making an extended off-topic post on the chat boards, would be just fine. I didn't invent that sort of thing. There have been lots of off-topic threads on the chat boards, such as "Max Factor heir nabbed in Puerto Vallarta" (Sampson), "Life is good" (Superman), and "L.A. considering tough new “no-contact” rules for strip clubs" (Proctor). From now, lets make sure that any chat board headlines are clearly on-topic. For instance, here's an example of an appropriate on-topic heading: "80’s trivia contest in the chat room tonite" (Admin).

Yours in hipocrisy I mean whoring

Dogster is the epitome of the pseudointellectual idiot.

Kidcisco nailed it. If Dogster's life didn't suck ass, he wouldn't have to get all upset over some minority kid getting into a previously predominantly-white school.

As far as Admin's wise decision to delete your crap from the main board goes, Admin was simply making a distinction between off-topic material that the board's readership is likely to be interested in, and the rantings of an asswipe trying to start a race war.

Of course, Dogster has his own traumas to deal with, after the serious bitch slapping Superman has put on his bitch ass over the past year or so. No wonder he seems shell shocked and disoriented, and unable to think clearly.

What is most delusional about Dogster's rants is his notion that he has contributed an original thought to the affirmative action debate. The fact that he decided to announce his profound post WITH SCREAMING HEADLINES IN EVERY CHAT AREA HERE seemed to suggest that he thought he had something important to say, which he does not. Irrespective of whether one agrees with the recycled arguments he made or not, it is tired old stuff. His problem is he seems to suffer from the "if it comes out of my mouth it must be important and original" syndrome. I agree, a pseudointellectual idiot who likes nothing more than to hear himself talk.

There is no such thing as equal opportunity. People get screwed all the time in being accepted to universities, job advancement, etc.

How can you offer equal opportunity at a law school, which has only a limited amount of space available? Where many of the applicants are upper class white kids whose fathers and mothers are doctors, attorneys, engineers, teachers, etc. and most likely come from a home with two parents. The minority applicants in many cases come from low-income families and perhaps survive on welfare.

These minority kids can't be equal to get into a school like Michigan, they have to be brilliant if we are truly using equal opportunity. I don't feel equal opportunity, unfortunately, will give the kid from poverty, much of chance.

Now if you are talking about equal opportunity as defined by this latest Supreme Court ruling on the University of Michigan issue, yes it will work for minorities. Of course again we both know that what the court came up with is not equal opportunity. The problem is that four liberal judges and a swing vote by Sandra Day O’Connor prove again what a bunch of hypocrites we have representing the liberal side of the court.

In my opinion, the liberal Democrats who have so strongly supported the welfare system in our country are the real problem for these black minorities. We are now seeing third generation blacks in this country living off the government and that is what really causes many of the other problems for minorities. I am happy to see that welfare reform was instituted a few years ago, inspite of the protesting of the minority Democratic Congress being dragged along.

I say give the smart motivated minorities an edge for the next twenty years and we will see a society with much less racism in the future. If you give black minorities better educations where they then can get high paying jobs, you will see a group that will grow up to be conservative and yes Evil Republicans.

I see that my announcements regarding an off-topic discussion were indeed deleted from the main board. Considering that many have posted off-topic things in those places, including political things, without consequence, I have to laugh at the irony of this discriminatory act. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

Whatever, it IS your playground, so you get to make the rules.

Just curious. Was it Hombre or Hombre, Jr who made the beeg executive decision?

Love,
Dogster

From an earlier Dogster post on this thread, in a lame attempt to justify his outrageous spamming of all the chat areas here:

"so you'll know... Periodically I check in with Hombre to make sure he's cool with my activities on this site when I editorialize about politics (or reduce "superdud" to apple crisp)."

Now Dogster is crying like a sniveling baby because Hombre apparently doesn't think he is cool anymore.

Hey,

An off topic flame war that I have not participated in. Oh well. Thanks for the good entertainment guys. Work was just getting a little boring.

I kind of side with the black guys Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell on this one( Even though Kenny will say they are stinking uncle Toms). But I really dont care too much. Affirmative action has not hurt me and has not helped me.

Working these last 5 years in Mexico has exposed me to real racism. The piddly shit racism in the US is childs play compared to the full blown variety here in Mexico.

BatsterwhoholdsnostrongopinionsonAA

AA may get you in, but does not help you in graduating.

DJ,

What you say is correct. Uncle Tom Sowell believes that AA actually hurts some minorities because it allows them into programs where they are not academically prepared for the coursework. This automatically sets them up for failure in that school when they may have excelled in a less difficult program. Part of the high non completion rate of minorities can be ascribed to this problem.

Batster

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

Batster, you get the Dogster Achievement Award for having a brain and a heart and a spine and an opinion. And for doing your homework. No wonder the chicas lubba you. I almost gave the award to Ben, but the bastard never put me in his will. (That's really true, honest injun).

There are excellent people out there discussing race and race relations and affirmative action. Some are on the right and some on the left, and they may be either pro- or anti- AA. None of these folks currently get much press in our sound-bite world, and that is evidenced by the soft craniums of some of the losers at this site who retreat into stupidity, narc-out-the-world paid sex, and worse.

But the problem of racism is everywhere and growing, no thanks to Affirmative Action. It is time to KILL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, a racist, discriminatory, ineffective, harmful policy.

And if you've been reading numerous posts at this fine website, both on and off-topic, then you know that there's plenty of true racism and misogyny that surfaces here--on the Mexico, Asia, and S.America Chat Boards, and on the Discus Section. Sorry if I touched a nerve in some of you, you fragile sleeping pieces of shit. For THREE WORDS on a chat board to cause that much trauma and irritation in any of you is a testament to your pathetic lives.

I posted more extensively about Sowell and the Steele brothers (and Ward Churchill, and Manning Marable, and Malcom X... and... and...) maybe a year ago. Those were the days when there was a higher number intelligent posters here who didn't burst a blood vessel when discussing race and racism.

Race and racism are clearly important issues worth discussing here. Oh, never mind. Lets all just talk about whores. It is VERRRY uncool to bring up other topics.

Bend over,
I'll Drive

Dogster

(Message edited by Dogster on June 25, 2003)

Dogster is the epitome of the pseudointellectual idiot.

Kidcisco nailed it. If Dogster's life didn't suck ass, he wouldn't have to get all upset over some minority kid getting into a previously predominantly-white school.

LOL! Kendricks nailed it too! Ha ha.

If only admin could write a script that would auto paste sentence 1 to the beginning of all Bitchster's posts ...

-Superman-

Dogster Achievement Award? What kinda award is that? Bitchster created his own award.

-Dick

I found an interesting link that deals with this exact debate. Check it out. Very interesting.

snapper

Why do you always dig up (sometimes not so)funny shit Snapper?

I was in Rio yesterday. I saw two Brasilians having lunch--it looked like a father and daughter. At least, he was close to 60 and she was early 20s..I digress. They could not have been more different from me. Skin color, hair color (and texture), and of course their substandard third world educational system background (I was reared in Alabama...NORTH AMERICA). My point is...they were very different than me, but yet they could enjoy the afternoon in Rio just like me. They were not stealing anything, not rummaging through trashcans...nothing. And gosh darn it, I felt good about that.


Dogster is my hero. There...I said it. Deal with me.

Dogster--this one is for you...

Hero of the stupid. He probably stutters too.

-Superman-

C:\Documents and Settings\Katia\Meus documentos\Images\Personal\dogster2

Dogster for President

Gay dogs rule. Ha ha.

-Superman-

Hey, GCL. Serious question. Are those pictures from your website?

oops, I must have supplied the wrong link. It *really* wasn't my intention to shit on this thread.

sorry