I wish there were more consequenses for persons of low integrity that do things like these rats. However, I suppose the best result is that persons with low character are no longer here amongst men. In any case, since the account was revoked, we should at some point be able to surmise the handle of the offender.

Dionyp--you still here? Just checking...

Good point Hombre, I love to express myself, If I have something to say there want be any guessing were it came from.

I am a very up front in your face type of person.

This can be done without doing what this person did.

KidCisco

It doesn't matter which side of any argument on this board that any member is on, printing or otherwise transmitting info from Club Hombre - trip reports, chat threads, pics, etc - to garotas (or anyone else for that matter) is the lowest of the low and anyone caught doing it should be taken out and dropped headfirst from a tall building.

Last night I finally read through parts of this thread from start to finish to see what all the commotion was about.

It is very saddening to hear this last bit of info. Having met GCL and his charming wife, and having had a great Rio trip in part because of them and their excellent company, it is even more disconcerting.

Was the offending party actually a visible participant on this site, or just a lurker? Actually, I don't need to know. But lots of times, stalker nut-cases have never met their victims. There are websites that discuss stalking and internet stalking, as mentioned by someone previously...

GCL deserves better than this.

His many contributions to sex worldwide merit that we roll him in maple syrup and kick his candy-ass, right KC?

Hey sorry about your troubles GCL. Glad that bastard got the boot. Keep yer chin up, unless of course you're in the ring with any big badass old brothers.

Gentlemen:

I've been watching this enlightening conversation without doing any commenting because it's been pretty predicatible and it's really no use trying to change anyone's mind. But I, too, am truly awestruck at how anybody can be such a low-life scumbag as to send CH info to a guy's wife and co-workers, etc from "real life" (not the first time it's happened, of course). That's why I'm very careful never to post my real name, etc, I have a monger-activites only email account, on the few occassions on which I give out a street address it's 30 miles away from my REAL address, etc. The very few guys (two) on this board who know my real (first and last) name have already proven their trustworthiness and anyway I got their real info first (a concept known as mutually assured destruction... of course, both of those bastards are single, so the theory falls short of reality... ;-)). Anway, be careful, guys! And remember to seperte REAL LIFE from FANTASY LIFE - in all aspects, CH, the girls, the flames, the "friendships", etc. Never forget, it's all a game (all MAYA, if you are a buddhist). That being said (written), this "RioSpy" needs his face re-configured... when you cross the line, nasty things happen.

Another esteemed collegue on this board recently inboxed me saying essentially, I was right, never trust anyone from CH. Well, yeah - remember, mongers on the whole are not exactly the most socially adjusted, or for that matter sane, people in the world. So I don't trust any of them (us, actually) until proven otherwise. Fortunately you can usually tell who the good guys are pretty quick, both by their actions and words - DonGringo, Sandman, Dogster, GCL, etc. - and smile politely at the rest of the gang (and otherwise, just walk away). And for the most part, guys here can be trusted - but prove it first, just becuase you are a CH'er doesn't mean I trust you. As for idiots telling the girls in Rio what's up on the Internet, a) Most of the girls already know b) Most could care less, either they're too dumb to know what it all means, or they're smart enough to realize that it's free advertising c) Ultimately money talks... So the girls know about the Internet, so what? they still want to part you from your cash and you want to get them to part their legs! d) the guys who blab are truly idiots, in the long run it won't get them anything except a good beating. They're trying to "score points" with the girls, but they wind up just looking like chumps (nobody likes a squeal, not even in Rio). Since when do you need to "score points" with a whore anyway? What is this, high school? And when the blabbing idiots run into any CH guys... But to each his own idiocy, I guess. Still, the best policy in Rio is "Internet, what internet? Never heard of it.." just steer clear of the whole controversy.

As for Don and licensing, *what* licensing? In Rio, are you kidding? The city and Embratur do have some "tour guide" license set up, but no-one bothers. But stranger things have happened, so what do I know? Ultimately, who cares? Yeah, Brasil is trying to crack down on sex tours, but there's the practical matter that they certainly don't want to turn ANY tourists away from Rio. Besides, the police are far more interested in guys goign to the Nordeste for underage girls - their is so much prostitution in Brazil, and it's legal anyway, that the authorities just try to control the more out-of-control behaviour - drugs, under-age, and "white slavery". Besides, Don, and anyone smart, makes sure to stay "under the radar". He's not welcoming groups at the airport that I know of, he's not booking flights, he's not running around with big packs of guys (9 or 10 is not a big pack). He "arranges" things, an activity that is as ancient as prostituion itself. Not srictly pimping either. He, just like the Termas themselves, operates in the grey area of the Brazilian law. Technically speaking, anyone who acts as intermediary betweenthe customer and the "sex provider" is pimping and breaking the law, even if he is just making "introductions", but who's to prove it? Don takes his money from the guys sometime during the week (dunno when, I've never used or met him), and then just hangs out at the various bars and Termas with the boys. Who's to say there was a monetary transaction? And who cares? (on a side note, last time I was in GIG waiting for some friends to show up, there was a tall white guy also waiting with 3 of the ugliest crack-ho's I've ever seen.... stood out like a sore thumb, pretty funy to see the OTHER cariocas' reaction to the gang).

Anyway, it's fun to chat about the guide services, but I don't see why anyone gets so damn worked up about it. Don et al provide a service, if no-one wanted it, they wouldn't be paying. Training wheels for the newbies. Nothing wrong with that if guys feel they want/need it. If anybody (KC for instance) wants to get incensed about the "morality" of scamming cash, drinks, and cigars off the newbies, then they should look in the mirror first at themselves facilitating young girls in making their livings on their backs. I don't think Don is a paragon of virtue - he's a malandro - but so what? He never comes on this board presenting himself as the ONLY way to do Rio, at most he posts "Hey if you need help, call me". Fair enough in my book. Anyway, I could care less if he's in business or not, I go to Rio, etc to enjoy mySELF and enjoy hanging out with any "fellow travellers".

However, a little known (maybe) secret about Rio - *EVERYONE* is working percentage. What you may have percieved isn't even the half of it, there are deals and sub-deals going on everywhere. Everyone is getting a cut of everything. The important thing is not to over-pay in general, but not to get too worked up about it either. So the cabbie that dropped you off at a Terma gets R$10 back from the place, who cares? If it bothers you, have him drop you off at the corner. Sometimes the prices get truly exhorbitant, but if that's the case, just walk away. Yeah, I wouldn't be suprised if Don gets some kickback somwhere (despite his protestations of innocence), but probably no more than usually gets kicked back to the cabbie or whoever, it's already built into the price. Hell, *I* set up an apartment for those same friends back in June and you better believe I tacked on a few extra bucks a night (10 to be exact) for my troubles - and they still were very happy with a great apartment for a much better rate than they would ever have found on their own. Of course, I felt a little (only a smidgen) guilty when they bought me some cigars as a present.... So there you go, no-one is innocent in Rio!

Great.... I've rambled on as usual. Guess I'm bored, it's a rainy night here in my *UNDISCLOSED LOCATION*. ;-)

BS

Damn. Well said.

Rich

Rich,

Sorry for your troubles as well. Glad Hombre was able to give this guy the boot.

For the life of me, I still don't understand why an Hombre on this board would even consider doing something like this.

Let it be a testament to others who may be having a brain fart and thinking about doing something similar. The GF stalker, Rio Rat, this guy and a few others have suffered the consequences of their indiscretions and stupidity. Public humility and fear of reprisals are not fun merit badges to wear.

Sandman

Badseed, well said trust me I don't lose sleep over this guide issue.

It's not taking money out of my pocket, what I don't like when a man trys to strong arm a female, when she only trying to take care and feed her kids.

What I don't like is when someone trys to bullshit me or tell lies.

I am glad Hombre is allowing this to be a thread I notice the subject and the issue of a new for a guide is getting off track.

I will be asking more questions as soon as I get off the phone to Rio, I notice my other questions were not answer.


KidCisco

Hello guys, I hope everyone is having a great day.

Ok, I guess Don you want to test some more of my INTEL/INFO ok here are some more questions I would love for you to shine some light on, I ask you some questions early I guess you were busy taking guys and touring Sugarloaf.

Here are some questions please take your time and answer them the best way you can.

1. Isn't it true or not true that you wrongfully and willing print photo off Clubhombre of the girls inside the cabin of the termas and did you show the girls the pictures?

And did you also show pictures of the girls that were taking off ClubHormbre and show them to the mangerment of the 4x4 and Lumou termas in order to get the girls fine or fired?

a. Did you do this because they the girls no longer wanted to take your calls or take your orders or service you for free? (Is this why many girls no longer allow guys to take pictures to be taken of them?

b. Is this also the reason that many girls have move on to other termas that you don't take your licensed tours to Sugarloaf I mean termas to?

c. I wanted to give you a chance to answer this question due to the fact many girls have told this story to me and other guys/girls I know on my last trip to Rio.

By the way if this is true I am not sure but I THINK ITS AGAINST THE RULES OF CLUBHOMBRE (pictures).

2. Did you or did you not go back and tell secrets (That your paying customers told you information and things ONLY you knew, and ONLY you had knowledged of (back to the girls behind your paying customers backs is this way girls treat your customers different when they see them for the second time?)

a. Did you Don revealed and disclosure unauthorized information that your paying clients told you about what went on inside the termas (cabin) and what went on in their apartment with the girl you help arrange and brought to your clients?

b. IF this is true why did you do this was it out of (JEALOUS) because the girls didn't want anything to do with you?

And did you NOT order the girls to preform the same acts on you and with you that they did with your paying customers?

Don don't you think it would be better if I paid for your service, that I didn't tell you what went on with me and the girls inside the cabin or inside of my apartment even if you keep asking me what went on or how did she treat me ?
(even if you say you just want to make sure she did a good job lol.)

(Don do you have a habit of meddleing in all the girls and your clients private afairs and their private bussiness?) or you do it because you just being a nice guy?


3. Here is the last question Don, where you or were you not DETAINED and kept in CUSTODY by the FEDERAL POLICE OF BRAZIL on ground of pimping?

a. Did you have to pay a BIG BRIBE in order to be release?

b. And isn't it true you still have to pay off local police to stay out of jail?


Do you still want to test out my INTEL Don?

It would be very easy to just make a joke about KidCisco and say I am personel attacking you etc. or try to change to subject, BUT this thread is about guides and you already OPEN the door by addressing and answering other questions early in your post.

I will not insult or call any hombre names on here so don't try to bait me into a flame war, I will respect the guys on here I am ONLY trying to shine some light on this subject this is what this thread is all about.

I can let my passion take control of me at times and get angry I will not allow that to happen this time, I really think these are some important questions that need to be address I just want to know if they are true or not true.

I will not allow myself to become a part of a flame war I am sure some would love for that to happen for this to become a flame war and for me not to have my questions answer,(I want let that happen I just want the questions answer).

GCL=Rich, I know you would love to jump in and say all of this is a lie etc. and try to answer these questions but I am sure Don would love to answer these questions himself as soon as he put down his cigar and drink.

Guys please have a great day and take care.

KidCisco

How did this guy get Gcl wife's email address?

KC, I dont need to speak for Don, he is more articulate than I am. I do not think he has any obligation to respond to you though. It seems to me that for someone who does not "lose any sleep over the guide issue", you seem to spend a great deal of time worrying, investigating, hypothesizing and writing about it.

GCL:

How much is your wife?

OH

KC,

I have never used a guide, but I know these guys fairly well. I have been at the termas while I am paying my bill, and the guides and their customers are paying their bills at the same time. Their bill looks no different than mine, although at times their entry fee has waived depending on the termas. They pay for their drinks and their garotas.

That said, by and large, the guides do not session with the garotas. That's inside or outside of the termas. So basically, they are just paying for their drinks which sometimes can be a LOT.

THERE IS NO KICKBACK.

All, KC is turning the thread into FACTS now. So let's stick to the facts. Has ANYONE ever seen one of the guides (Karl or Don) getting a kickback? On the flipside, has anyone ever seen Karl or Don paying their bill at a terma just like everyone else? I know I am not the only one.

Let's just stick to the facts, and ultimately the truth will come out. Focusing on the veracity of the poster, and personalities, shields the truth.

BT

I think we're on to something here. Why does KC continue to be obsessed with personal attacks on Don? The "use a guide or don't" thread has long been a dead horse, but KC's personal attacks on Don continue to be THE primary focus of KC's posts. Why?

I doubt it's because KC wants CH'ers to have information: he has never contributed any trip reports, any info about countries, cities, clubs, girls. Not even one photo. Never.

For the record, in my 9 or so trips to Rio, I have accompanied Don (not as a customer) when he has taken CH'ers on a "Low End Terma Tour" -- EXCLUDING 4x4 and L'Uomo. To charge that Don restricts himself to 4x or "the big swollen L" is at best mistaken, at worst a lie.

Contrary to KC's charge, Don has never "meddled" in my personal affairs, nor have I ever heard of him doing so as to others. And what the hell does "meddle" mean anyhow? This charge seems to have more to do with a personal attack than whether we should use a guide or not.

C'mon KC, based on the above, your "INTEL" appears to be as accurate as your spelling and as organized as your grammar. How about abandoning this personal attack crap and contributing something positive to the board?

Clearly this is a significant thread if it draws BT out to comment. The next thing you know, HC1 will be piping in or DG will reappear from the dead!

Otrohombre, not sure what I did to you to deserve low blow insults like that. But would be happy to discuss it with you sometime. I prefer the debate, versus schoolyard tactics.

Give me a call or drop me a note next time your in town and I will buy you a beer. You can ask me again then if you wish.

Otohombre,

I thought you were above such cheap shots. Sorry to see this.

KC,

You seem to have already decided upon the answers to your questions, so why ask? Haven't we had enough yet?

BD

Otrohombre,
I usually just ignore posts from those who have
contributed nothing in the way of useful information to the site. Your recent post is an exception. What a lowlife piece of shit you must be to make a comment like that.

GCL:

Sorry. IT was a cheap shot. You guys are ok to dump on me for that.

OH

Otrohombre,, I hope you are having a GREAT time in Rio lol.

KidCisco

OH, apology accepted. If your in town, drop me a note and I will buy you a beer. It takes a man to admit a mistake.

Kc; What is you point. I seriously question your motives her…. Don't you get it; whatever you throw Don's way will fall dead, with all the persons knowing him and backing him; ‘because they know him’, something you obviously don’t do. People knowing him don’t buy your crap and I believe don’t care about all your BS. Seems to me you trust the working girls down there and a few ‘secret’ board members more than 99% of his clients and friends. That’s says enough for me.

It is clear that your goals of some reasons are to hurt CGL and Don. Have a happy life doing that hiding behind your screen. Pathetic if you ask me.

KC and Otrohomre; You are both ‘way’ out of line now and throw low blows all over the place. Pls. get off personal agendas and move on for the best of all of us, instead of all this crap leading nowhere.

Habana

Ooobs; Sorry Otrohomre. Did not see you last post.

Oke. I like to chim in and share some of thoughs on this subject.



Damned! Looks like their ain't anything else on my mind while I am on this board.

Coats001, nice pictures, I really enjoyed them.

Habana, I hope you and everyone else is having a GREAT day.

Take care,

KidCisco

You see KC? That’s the tone we like here, lol. A big nice monger family being nice to each other. Keep eating those Prosacs and all will be fine. Have a nice day you too and stay calm :-).

This thread is a fucking train wreck. Having just returned from Rio and after spending a little time with Bobby, Kenn and Rio Trips I can only wish to convey that they all have their areas of expertise and all of them seem to deliver. I, in fact used Bobby to book my hotel at Vilamar and friends used Kenn for cell phones and apts.

I often observed or hung with the Riotrips bunch at the Alcazar and even on one instance at Terraco Atlantico where I later accompanied gschl1 (probably have the handle wrong)for his first trip into Help. Dude had it down pat in no less than 30 minutes with a hottie on one hand and a caprihina in the other. I never heard how that turned out, btw.

This is just my opinion, but the guys who use agencies seem overly sensitive to suggestions that they could have done as well on their own; and the guys who don't use them seem overly sensitive to being told or reading suggestions that they DO need them. Indeed, when you've made your own way and only wish to convey how it was done, the last thing you neeed are newbies who know nothing other than being toured about espouse that THAT is the way to go.

Coats...I'm with you buddy. Especially since I'll be down there in 4 MORE DAYS.....

Sandmanwithgarotasonhismind

Ciao

Sandman,

Goddamnit I'm jealous. I still have 4 weeks until I'm "in-country." Be sure and give my very best to our favorita (that's MY very best, not yours ).

I was just about to say "don't do anything I wouldn't do," but that doesn't put any limits on you, so go for it!

Bwana

She likes you better than me.
Who ever said these garotas were smart. Actually, she just caught me in more shit than she has with you...he he...and if she only knew...ROTF

I do appreciate the boundaries you laid out for me though. Now I know I'm gonna have fun. Thanks

ciao

? #1- Hombre can verify I've never had access to photos.

? #2- No

? #3- No- My dealings with the Federal Police have been limited to the friends I know working at the airport and those at immigration. Those at the airport I hired to accompany some very high profile guests while they were in the city. These are the same badasses watching on monitors while you wait for your luggage.
Those at immigration I've introed to many friends extending their stays. It happens alot.

If it's not a problem with our esteemed collegues overseeing the morality of this board, I will now begin collecting commission from most termas. This will go to support Cassias daughter, Brenda. If these same collegues who appear to be so consumed with 18 yr olds and children this should not be a problem.
Some questions I would like to pose, at what point did Cassia change from being a "W" worthy of nothing more than "A.. F....ing to this-? Was it being killed that changed her status in you eyes? How much will you be donating to Brendas future?
Your access to "intel" is clear.
You need only aks yourselves what the real motives might be here??


Constantly, Don

Like Habana (hi Buddy!), I am sad to see that this thread is used to pay off personnal old scores which have nothing to do with the subject.
It is clear that somebody is trying to damage Don's reputation through rumours and calumnies based on false information and invented stories.

Although I recently discovered monger activities in Francfort, one hour flight from home, I miss Rio and Don's team like anything. See you guys hopefully in November!!!

Dcool

Sandman - Why don't you publish (with permission) everyone who has given or pledged to the Brenda fund. I am personally sick and tired of the FEW Don bashers who is trying to help this little girl. I spent the last 10 days in Rio and discussed this and his reputation with him and I repeat I'm tired of seeing a few assholes try and tarnish him. He leads his life his way and is always willing to help anyone and everyone. As we know there are 3 kinds of people in this world - Givers/Takers/Sharers. Sharers are the Happiest guys - so lighten up on Don and make a contribution to the Cassia Fund. - Let's seperate the men from the boys Sandman. - Hemp

A friend of mine used Don, just as a backup resource. (He could easily do it on his own, but he could also easily afford it.) Met a girl he liked and stuck with her most of his trip. He asked Don some advice on the girl, and included some personal details, which he said were confidential. So imagine his surprise when he was confronted by this angry girl demanding to know why he was bragging to people about their intimacies. He hadn't realize he was paying to get stabbed in the back. It was an attempt, motivated by jealousy and control issues, to throw a wrench into their warm relationship.

Something else. When my friend was spending time with her, Don called her demanding she come over to "see" him. She refused and he tried to insist. She basically told him to f*** off. He was trying to demand that of her, since my friend was also his customer.

Since then I have heard other stories of girls being blacklisted by these guys if they wouldn't comply with their demands.

There is more, but maybe that is enough for now.

Did you guys know about this stuff going on?

So sure, whoever wants to use a guide, it is their money, whether it is really necessary or not.

But another question might be, do you want to take business to a guy who is going to try to manipulate every situation to his benefit even if it burns you?

Do you want to patronize a guy that is running this type of control scam on the girls?

Do you want someone trying to meddle in between your dealings/relations with the girls?

Whatever you want to do is OK, but I think it is worthwhile to be informed.

Does anybody besides me find this behavior objectionable?

Here we go again...

I haven't bothered reading all the bullshit on this thread but it looks like a heated argument. My point on the topic is simple: with all the info available on this board, having a guide is an absolute non-essential in Rio, and I have no interest being set up with some program girl who's "in" with some guide. When I hit Rio I never talked to another gringo/monger/guide; I did my own exploring based on the info learned on this site and had an absolute blast. I never needed someone to hold my hand and be my friend for a day, and I doubt anyone else does either. That being said, I guess there are some insecure fatbodies that are too uncomfortable walking out of a foreign airport and catching a cab, let alone talking to a strange woman. God forbid... I guess it's like grocery shopping, when the bag-boy asks "Do you need help to the car?" "Do I look like an old lady" should be a man's response. But I guess some guys do need the help.

Clifton, why all the secrecy? If you are going to post about a situation, tell all the details!! Who was the girl in the scenario that Don insisted come over to see him? Who was the girl that Don went back to and told all the private info to?

Its stuff like this that drives me nuts. If someone is going to step to the plate like man and challenge another man's integrity, then bring everything with you (not just you Clifton, but anyone on the board). Enough with the "round abouts" the inuendos, the "I heard from a guy who knows a guy" .

Clifton - Excuse me but I think your "full of shit" - Hemp

all these people in rio and no talent update...help a brother out will ya guys..I am in bound sooooonnnn....

Now..what do you think about this;

Don has authorized me to make this offer and post it on the auction site;

Any hombre who makes a reservation through Don for the month of Sept;1st day of his services is $50 and it all goes to the Cassia fund. You must mention the Cassia fund when making the reservation. All other days are business as usual at regular rates.

I have asked for clarification; If the reservation is made in Sept. but the trip is in Nov. does it still count. Will update and post the response when received.

Don't you just hate selfish, cigar smoking, martini drinking pimp bastards like Don. Geezzze, what a schmuck! Thanks Don and thanks in advance to you guys that will help the fund for Brenda.



Also, we are over $1,600 collected on the fund. A few pledgers have yet to complete their donations....er..no names. Some gave their donations to Don and he took it to the family ($300 I think) so that makes over $1,900. Don also has a few more dollars that will go in the bank. I am taking the donations I have and together with Rich, will open the account and get the regular monthly sustenance payments rolling.

We have three items on the auction with bids and more items coming every day. Those bids put us well over the $2,000 mark.

Who is next?

Hemp. A few guys have asked that their donation be anonymous. Several have said it is OK to publish. I will go back and look, verify who it is Ok with and post the list. Of course, all those who have contributed are afforded the opportunity to look at the spread sheet of contributors. I'd also like to point out that a few guys have offered up regulay monthly contributions. That is great if you don't want to do a big chunk all at once. We will need money for several years.

Thanks again all.



How's that Hemp!

Sandman - Thats terrific. - Thanks Hemp

I like mine with vodka and olives and a good Trinidad to go with it.

BTW-The hot International book donated by Bwana is getting quite a bit of attention on the auction site.

Remember to send me a CH e-mail identifying your CH handle to your e-mail address on your request to join the group.

Also, please don't e-mail me and ask what the current bid is. go to the site and look for yourself. i don't have the time to field all the inquiries.

maybe aldaron or Badseed can help me with the site set up so it is a little easire to keep track of things.

sandman

Why would you even bring up Cassia? Don are you Now trying to P.I.M.P a died girl? how low can you go you give true meaning for the term "BOTTOM FEEDER".


(1) The answer to my question about the photos was a SLICK answer (I caught it), You didn't say you didn't do it. Don you said you didn't have access to the pictures lol. It doesn't mean someone else couldn't print them for you lol, and you couldn't threaten garotas with them.

a. Don let me ask you this question SLICK do you have KNOWLEDGE of pics from this site being printed and shown to garotas and the Mangerment of the 4x4 and L'uomo??? (this time it should be a yes or no answer).

2. Don why was your site taken down? when you was DETAIN by (the law inforcement Agency)?

a. Was it part of the deal you had to take down your P.I.M.P. website for fear of being BUSTED and ARRESTED AGAIN?? (for some reason you forgot to answer this).

Don please clarify your "Government registration" are you incensed to give sex tours? or do you withhold this of fear of being ARRESTED? ( I am sure Cassie male family members would love to ask you WHY ARE YOU PIMPING "CASSIE" A DIED GIRL???)

Don you NEED TO BE REMINDED THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE NEED TOUR FOR A GUIDE NOT ABOUT CASSIA OR YOUR PIMPING BUSINESS!!!!

Please have some honor and STOP pimping this died girl let her soul rest PLEASE for God sake how much of a low life dirt bag can you get?

Don, why are you keep TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT?? NOW you want to talk about Cassia try answering my questions you are slick but not that slick, now you are trying to find a WAY TO PROFIT OFF A DIED GIRL AND PROMOTE YOUR PIMPING BUSINESS AT THE SAME TIME (what a bottom feeder low life you are I knew all about you drunk ass and you sick ways from the all the girls NOW I see how much of a low life you really are!!)

STOP using this site to promote your PIMPING BUSINESS!!! AND STOP YOUR S.P.A.M.!!!

Don, WHY don't you put BACK UP your old website for your (TOUR) promotions?? AND STOP USING CLUBHOMBRE to promote your business??

Don, I got to hand it to you, SLICK you are some kind of a con artist you came up with this auction bullshit ($50.00) for your sex tours lol. times must really be bad.

Don, you know the reason you can't put up your old website anymore?? Thumper you don't have to guess on this one I will tell you (Don if your business is SO LEGAL ETC.ETC. and you have all the paperwork and license etc. with the Government then PROMOTE ON YOUR OWN WEBSITE!!??) the reason is you CAN'T if you did your drunk ass would be in jail everyone in RIO knows all about your drunk ass.


Don, just because lets say I paid for your service (and you still haven't said what your service is or what I get or what you do for $250.00 lol. or even for $50.00 ) trust me it take more then 7 days of drinking and smoking cigars and going to whore houses with you for me to say you are a GREAT guy or even a nice guy.

The fact are this I been going to Rio before you could find it Don on the map and over the years I have met MANY people and some guys/girls that have told me stories all about you and low life like you and you don't have me fooled at all.

If you want to change the subject to promote your pimping business or if you want to pimp a died girl then start a new thread "THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE NEED FOR A TOUR GUIDE" (this isn't about DON the P.I.M.P thread).


Everyone on clubhombre please have a great day and I hope the up coming weekend will be a good one for everybody, I hope everyone had a great labor day.

Please take care guys.



KidCisco

>>>Any hombre who makes a reservation through Don for the month of Sept;1st day of his services is $50 and it all goes to the Cassia fund. You must mention the Cassia fund when making the reservation. All other days are business as usual at regular rates.<<<

Truly offensive. If Don wants to donate money to Cassia's family fine. But to start making donations that are contingent on people using his guide service, AND only if they mention the fund when making the reservations, really sucks; ON THIS I'm totally with KC. There is a reason one of the other boards banned this sort of spamming nonsense from guides in their regular threads. At this point Don and his shills on this board should go away before their offensiveness becomes unbearable. That's what I "think of this" Sandman.

I can vouch for Clifton, he is a good guy. Because his friend had a bad experience does not mean every one is going to have a bad experience with a guide. But there is no need to attack him for posting experience.

Kidcisco
Who gives a shit what your opinion is, so what if Don was detain by police, you don't know the facts, you weren't there at the time of the arrest, only reson he was he was detain, was for the web site he had,and he took it down.
Cops was just doing there normal thing down there
in Rio, shaking honest hard worker for some extra cash, Police in Rio are under pay and most corrupt cops in the world. I usually go to Rio with couple budddies buddies, but when I went by my self, it was nice to have Don and his group of mongers to hang with, so stop dissing him, take a chill pill or some thing, you sound like real ass.

Guess I should have just put it under the auction site.

No offense meant and no Spamming intended.

Hombre, feel free to remove it from this thread. I will move it to its better intended location and get it out of this fray.

And just for the record, Don did not approve me putting this here. It was my decision and mine alone. I am trying to help raise money for Cassias daughter. Plain and simple! Don't anyone here try to place an ounce of blame on Don for this post.

My bad,.... my mistake to correct.

Sandman

Yawn. Same B.S. Well it's off to a terma.
Don

Bluestraveller - "All, KC is turning the thread into FACTS now. So let's stick to the facts. Has ANYONE ever seen one of the guides (Karl or Don) getting a kickback? On the flipside, has anyone ever seen Karl or Don paying their bill at a terma just like everyone else? I know I am not the only one."

It is like saying I was in Seattle for a couple of days last year and it was sunny. Therefore,it never rains in Seattle becase I didn't see it rain in Seattle. Most people here has a few facts, but some use common sense. It is not likely that the guides are going to tell you (How ever much money you give them) where all their revenue sources are! And just as unlikely the termas are going to pay the guides in public. I never see the politician taking bribes - have you? So just because you saw "this and that" certainly don't mean it don't exist! It is also true it don't mean it happens either. However, you would have to agree that since they don't have to pay entrance fee that they are getting special treatment. And who is to say where that special treatment stops. To some of us, it is logical and good business to give the guides a percentage on the business they bring in.

I also don't care if one choose to use a guide or not.

I am just amazed at the naivete of ones who think that the guides are great guys just because they spent a few hours with the guides working them. How about the guy who bought a condo for his future wife. But the condo turn out to belong to her aunt. Now is out of $80K. How much time did he spent with her? And still this happen to him! It take a little longer than a few hours partying with someone to really know them. Her primary motivation was getting money out of him. See what one can accomplish with that kind of motivation! We are tourist and tourist in Rio are like bait to the sharks.