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By Ben on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:48 am:  Edit

Actually I was referring to myself in the above inebriated post.

Hmm, time for lunch.

I will have a bombay martini with that chicken ceasar salad please.

By Dogster on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

In that case, I second the nomination of your post for "Most Embarassing Drunken Ramble".

Is anybody following the ESPN Page 2 sports writing? One of the best is Charley Rosen, who writes about basketball. His latest is a hoot; any overlap with topics discussed here is pure coincidence -- http://espn.go.com/page2/s/rosen/030109.html

Another of my favorites is Hunter S. Thompson's column. His latest stuff on the SF 49-ers is amusing. HST must be utterly vascularly demented by now, but the ghost writing is hilarious -- http://espn.go.com/page2/s/thompson/030107.html

By Superman on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 06:28 pm:  Edit

Actually, I was referring to Drunkster ... then again I was just being nice considering the alternative explanation for such an "interesting" post.

The more I read of Rosen, the more I see someone around here trying to emulate his style ... pathetic, but not surprising. Original thoughts rule.

-Superman-

By Dogster on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:55 pm:  Edit

Bahaha. Nice try. That sounds like a concession (and another wrong prediction). Academic scholarships rule.

I think you are sometime a very immature man. As you get MUCH older you will find that being wrong is not specifically what makes you a less than adequate person. Pop. Fizz. Glug. (Dogster practicing "style" emulation).

Anyway, the rest of ya:
I'm STILL predicting that one of the following teams will win the superbowl this year: niners, chargers, doncos. To be on the safe side, let me add the Clippers to this list.

By Superman on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:36 pm:  Edit

You are so my bitch ... goddamn you're fun!

-Superman-

By Snapper on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:08 am:  Edit

This weeks losers:

Titans -4
Falcons +7.5
Niners +6
Raiders -5.5

Falcons are my upset spacial once agian.

-snapper-

By Athos on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 09:48 am:  Edit

Snapper,
I just hope you're wrong about your upset special as Eagles is my num 1 game for teasers.
My week's picks:
Steelers +4
Eagles -7.5
Niners +6
Jets +5.5

By T_Bone on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 01:39 am:  Edit

My Picks:

Pittsburgh +4 Under 44
Philadelphia -7.5 Over 38.5
San Fran + 6 Over 39.5
Oakland -5.5 Over 47.5

Last weeks results:

4-0 Snapper
3-1 Athos
2-2 Snapper
1-3 Youngbrig and TBone

By Snapper on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 05:50 am:  Edit

Just to clarify. Last week:

Farsider 4-0
Me 2-2 :(

By Youngbrig on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 06:52 am:  Edit

Snapper, congrats on the 4-0, but damn, I mean, Atlanta going into Green Bay and winning by 20?...And gee, I really appreciated that effort by the Colts-- nothing like the playoffs to light that competitive fire under a team...

Anyway:

1. Pittsburgh +4 at Tennessee...Cowher will not let this game get away from him...

2. Atlanta +7.4 at Philadelphia...Falcons draw a rusty Donovan McNabb...Plus, they have a knack for getting hot on the road in the playoffs...

3. San Francisco +5 at Tampa Bay...Mooch wants this one bad, and it goes without saying that the Niners have the juice to at least keep it close...

4. Oakland -5 vs. New York Jets...I like Chad Pennington, too, but is he really better than Unitas?-- enough already, for Godssakes...The Raider Vets will be ready for this one...

YoungBrig

By Youngbrig on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 06:59 am:  Edit

On second thought, congrats to veteran TJ poster Farsider, on the 4-0...Well done...

YoungBrig

By Athos on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 12:04 pm:  Edit

I always forget the o/u so here are my picks:
Steelers +4 Under 44 Steelers better hope Bell can play.
Eagles -7.5 Over 38.5 My only blow out this weekend.
49ers +6 Under 39.5 How boring.
Jets +5.5 Under 47.5 This could be exciting.

By Superman on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 05:40 pm:  Edit

What a great game ... Tennesee pulls it out in OT.

Dwayne Washington chokes all over overtime ... and the hated Pittsburgh Steelers go bye-bye.

As a lover of human nature, and especially human foibles, I thought Washington was fascinating to watch in OT. He misses an easy tackle, giving up an additional 30 yards or so, then most likely tried to overcompensate for his mistake by giving a little extra "oomph" on the field goal attempt. Tweeet!! Running into the kicker ... second chance for Tennessee, game over.

Conversely, Joe Nedny misses a field goal at the end of regulation, makes a field goal in OT that does not count due to penalty, misses one that does not count due to penalty, then still had the strength of character to make the final kick.

I love it!

-Superman-

By Athos on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 07:13 pm:  Edit

Slight detail Superman, the one that was made that did not count in OT was due to timeout called by Pittsburgh. Nedney is a good kicker but totally choked miskicking every kick except final one. I agree that was a fantastic game. Steelers tried to call timeout again before good kick but referees did not see it.

By Superman on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:02 pm:  Edit

So who wins the NFC championship game next week? Philly has knocked Tampa out of the playoffs the last two years, and whipped them earlier this season. On the other hand, the Eagles did not look real sharp against Atlanta ...

Either way, it should be a great one.

-Superman-

By Superman on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:06 pm:  Edit

You're right Athos ... Pitt called a TO before that first made kick. Nedney was tough when it counted though ... especially having to re-kick after all the fireworks and shit went off.

Nothing was funnier than psycho ugly guy Bill Cowher sprinting towards midfield to yell at an official after he did not call his last TO in time.

-Superman-

By Blazers on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:10 pm:  Edit

Superman.."the hated Steelers"- Probably one of the most popular teams in the nation and a well run organization....sounds like you hate them.

On the controversial call- If running into the kicker were called on every field goal attempt, at least a third of the kicks would be retried. It is a judgment call and should not have been called to determine the outcome of such a big game. Nedney said, "Let's just say, I think after my career is over I'll get into acting." He was barely bumped by Washington and flailed his arms and did a pirouette. That call should have never been made. Another post season blunder by the referees.

With regards to Washington, Townsend and Scott...Pittsburgh should let all of them go and start from scratch. One of the worst defensive backfields in NFL history. It's too bad because Pittsburgh is loaded at every other position. I suspect they will find more gems in the draft. The key is to hold onto Mularkey before he gets hired as a head coach. Most of Cowher's assistants get hired as a head coach pretty quickly. Pittsburgh gets a couple of decent DB's and a healthy Bell and they will have more talent top to bottom than any team in the NFL.

By Superman on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:26 pm:  Edit

Yeah, I have the Steelers, Skins and 49ers right up there among the teams I dislike the most.

The call was absolutely correct. You can't run into the kicker. End of story. This is preached at every level of football, starting in Pop Warner.

Cowher and the Steelers prefer the game to be played with "Laker Rules" ... that is, ignore them at crucial moments of the game. Cowher is a crybaby ... if the situation was reversed, and the refs didn't call running into the kicker against Tennessee, Cowher pitches a fit.

I can search my heart for compassion concerning Cowher though ... he seemingly always has his team on the brink, yet fails year after year. He's now getting bitter and desperate ... feeling the inevitibility of time stalking him to his death. Will he ever win it?

-Superman-

By Mitchc on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:01 pm:  Edit

Man, Tampa looked strong today!

By Athos on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:36 pm:  Edit

Titans have no running game, take the other team in AFC title game. It was a good call, just another bad rule by the NFL.
Bucs-Eagles is very tough matchup. The only thing is it will be cold so logic says eagles to win. Homefield does not matter as Bucs D is too good. Bucs could have won the first game this year but I think their O did nothing.

By Dogster on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 02:44 pm:  Edit

"'Laker Rules' ... that is, ignore them at crucial moments of the game." Bahaha.... Hate the 49ers? You gotta love a team that is incapable of losing Superbowls. ...Although they choked today. Mea culpa, I'm ruined, show some compassion. I'm glad I logged on here. Gotta go watch some more sports...
Yours in whoring

By Ben on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 07:36 am:  Edit

Superman is going to abuse you for being wrong about the 49ers.

Just trying to prepare you for his nasty attack.

Hey Superman,

Por Favor, attack Dogster.

By Badseed on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 11:41 am:  Edit

Snapper:

>>Falcons are my upset special once agian

...SO SORRY!

;-)

BS

By Snapper on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:11 pm:  Edit

I meant to say the Bucs are my upset special -lol

By Snapper on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:30 pm:  Edit

bj
I just saw this
pic of Johnson's
gash over his eye.

By Snapper on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:40 pm:  Edit

Here are the lines for this weeks games

Buccaneers +3.5 at Eagles -3.5 O/U 34

Titans +7.5 at Raider -7.5 O/U 46.5


My picks:
Buccaneers +3.5
Titans +7.5

By Athos on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:10 pm:  Edit

Somebody beat the raiders...anybody.
Bucs +3.5 Under
Raiders -7.5 Under
I am teasing Raiders and other game in both directions so I am hoping for a close NFC game and a Raiders win.

By Youngbrig on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:27 am:  Edit

1. Like the Houston Oilers in their heydey with Dan Pastorini, this is an opportunity for the Bucs to "kick-down the door" against their playoff nemesis-- the hated and superior Eagles...At last check, that door between the Oilers and the Steelers never quite opened, and thus Pastorini never appeared in the Super Bowl...Interestingly, in his dreams Brad Johnson is not half the quarterback that Pastorini was...Philadelphia -3.5...

2. The Raiders have the superior quarterback, superior receivers, an effective running game, and a defense that makes plays...They are playing at home...That was a damn good Jets team that they dispatched last week...The Titans were fortunate to beat the mediocre Steelers, at home...Anything else that I or anyone else should add here?...This game is an absolute lock...Raiders-7.5...

YoungBrig

By Elgatogordo on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 11:10 am:  Edit

As of this morning, the line moved to the following at Caliente:

Phil -4.5
Under 33.5
Raiders -9
Under 47

The Raider and under in the Phil game should be the locks. However, knowing how the NFL has been this year, I like:

Phil
Phil over
tenn
Tenn under

Good luck!

By Badseed on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 05:42 pm:  Edit

NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

By Snapper on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 05:59 pm:  Edit

OH YES!

By Snapper on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 07:19 pm:  Edit

NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

By Dogster on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 08:01 pm:  Edit

With the Raider nation coming to town (San Diego), locals will want to get their TJ whoring trips under their belts sooner rather than later. Typically, Raider fans "flood" the Zona Norte during the regular season when they play here. It gets ugly. I can only imagine the horrors that await our favoritas in the next two weeks, and if you venture south, it will be an important time to wear extra-thick condoms. The fact that both teams are "pirates" (Traitors, Fuckaneers) probably does not bode well for them. But Floridians are oversexed already and may simply "come" for football, and nothing more.

Having spent many years living in or near Oakland, I can only say that we are headed for some ugliness.

I suppose it is a consolation that modern day Oakland (the city, but also the fans and the team) is a sanitized, yuppified, LosAngelized version compared to the Hell's Angels glory days. In the old days, Oakland was a gritty place; now it is Starbucks coffee everywhere and high-end grocery stores in renovated neighborhoods. And Al Davis is a withered, bitter, emaciated, dying relic of his former self. The manicured fans who come to San Diego and TJ won't be driving Harleys. Instead it will be the pyrite freak show that gets so much press coverage.

There's already some pathetic NFL village, or some such, set up in downtown SD, designed to absorb as much of the residue as possible.

Could be a good time to visit Rio.

Gotta root for the Raiders, though, I think to myself as I lose my appetite.

By sampson on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 08:25 pm:  Edit

i was trying to imagine tj filled with longhaired toothless hillbillies from tennessee. they would be easy marks for the rateros, but then they probably don't have anything the rateros would want. imagine the "deer in the headlight" gawking these hillbillies would have been doing....even the english speaking barkers wouldn't be able to understand these folks. i was kind of wishing they would win--kind of like the return of the "donkey show."

By Athos on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 10:07 pm:  Edit

Raiders fans can go to TJ all they want but they ain't entering the stadium without a ticket. Unless that is they want to blow 2 to 3 grand.
Best 2 teams meet. Exciting matchup, Bucs is more complete team but raiders have the mvp.

By Ben on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 09:20 am:  Edit

Unfortunately many of the Raider fans will blend right in and I don't think the barkers will fuck around with most of those hombres.

They will probably intimidate the rateros.

In fact many of these Raider fans would think it a bonus if someone in the zona tried to fuck with them.

Hide your mommas and children this week.

By Athos on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:06 am:  Edit

early line is raiders -3.5
The equation is simple, whichever D gets to the QB wins the game.
Bucs D is not as good as Ravens D from 2 years ago but that no 55 Brooks is all over the field.
Raiders is all about Gannon.
Brad Johnson is playing well this season.

By Snapper on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:24 am:  Edit

Turn-overs is what lost the game for the Titans. I think the Buccaneers will hold on to the ball a lot better.

Buccaneers +3.5

The O/U is 44, but I'm not touching it.

By Superman on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:14 pm:  Edit

Superman will be at the big game ... 2 tickets from a college buddy, and 2 tickets from work. All free of charge. Life is good.

Oh the temptations ... a hot little 19 year old temp hire in the office is apparently a die hard Raiders fan and wants a ticket. I even quizzed her on some Raider history and she actually knew it. Too bad ... 2 are used, and 2 are on eBay to hopefully fund an entire year of TJ whoring (already over $3,000 ...no 19 year old pussy is worth that).

#1 defense Vs. #1 offense ... all the pundits who have been saying for years that defense wins championships better be hoping the Bucs win.

I'll guess a Bucs victory based on better defense, too much defensive speed and the fact that Gruden knows the Raiders inside out.

-Superman-

By Snapper on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:20 pm:  Edit

I present this to Superman just out of jelousy.

8773


have fun ...bastard

By sampson on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 12:42 pm:  Edit

have fun at the super bowl. it is a great social event. if you want to enjoy the game, you will find it is a lot better on tv.

By Srfrog on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 09:52 pm:  Edit

I'll take that as a bet Superman...You pick Bucs, I'll take Raiders...Winner gets treated to AB's funhouse...

Srfrog

By Dogster on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:59 pm:  Edit

Dateline, Gaslamp Quarter, San Diego, Thursday evening. The peasants have taken over. Lots of people flooding the hotels and the streets, with parties everywhere... I think I saw 3 avid Bucs fans, and a full range of Raiders groupies.

By Athos on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 11:22 am:  Edit

Lots of out of towners in ZN last night, but well behaved.
Line at caliente is -4 raiders and o/u 44.5

By Youngbrig on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 05:15 am:  Edit

Al Davis-- or, at least, the spectre of Al Davis-- hangs over this year's Super Bowl like the erstwhile Goodyear Blimp...*Under condition of strict anonymity*, most Raider insiders-- save loyal Lieutenant Al LoCosale-- will tell you that the aging and frail Mr. Davis has relinquished virtually all aspects of football operations to Bruce Allen...

These same insiders, however, will also tell you that Mr. Davis plans to meet with his beloved Raiders just minutes prior to kickoff Sunday afternoon-- and my guess is that among other things, Davis will tell his squad that in the event of a Raider loss, he will refuse to sign their final paycheck...

Just Win, Baby...

Oakland 37, Tampa Bay 20...

YoungBrig

By Athos on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 10:04 am:  Edit

All right I gotta a chance now, go Bucs...
I saw Al Davis in his limo when his team was in LA. He looked already frail so not surprised he is on the background these days. I am surprised he is still alive.

By sampson on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:25 pm:  Edit

i think if the bucs could have awarded the mvp, they would have given rich gannon the award. the presentation by abc was awful. camera not following the ball on two plays. lynch interview fading in and out before game, and audio in an interview after the game equally as bad.

despite all the network inefficiency and lack of great commercials i mangaged to enjoy the game.

By Youngbrig on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:54 pm:  Edit

Athos, yeah, all ya gotta do is first check which way I'm going, and then head the other direction...

Era una sorpresa that a veteran team like the Raiders could collapse the way they did-- I mean, 34-3 at one point?...This was not Bengals-Titans, here, I didn't think...Gannon and the offensive wunderkinds in Oakland need to take a hard look in the mirror after this raspberry...

I personally was hoping at 34-3 that the rout would continue so that Touiasosopo would get a few snaps for the Raiders...Judging by his sideline demeanor, I am willing to bet that Callahan was having similar thoughts...

YoungBrig

By Athos on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 12:14 am:  Edit

The spread was too tilted on Raiders as Bucs have been for real since they beat up on Falcons in Oct. Raiders have no D, Gannon got exposed. Still game could have been close but Bucs was only team with running game. I loved seeing Raiders being butchered. I can see Raiders dumping Rod Woodson, Romanowski, Tim Brown, Tyrone Wheatley as they are 50M over the cap. Still they will compete for div next year if they keep Gannon. I was not sure how to rank Bucs D but they looked as good as Ravens D from 2 years ago. Amazing speed and they kept collapsing Raiders pocket without blitzing. Never seen Lincoln Kennedy being run over like this.
Seeing Rice on the sideline with his head down and hand on his face, priceless...Tim Brown 1 catch for 9 yards even more comical, he dropped a third down pass in first half which could have changed game.
The referees were the worse, the referee first did not know who were the visitors for the coin toss, I don't think he knew difference between heads and tail, then they botched kickoff non fumble, they gave pass interference on non catchable pass in second half helping Bucs, giving TD to Porter, not giving 2 pt conversion to Porter.

By Hombrecito1 on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 02:49 am:  Edit

Raiders had zero rushing attempts in 2nd half and 18 yrs rushing for the game. Pittman had 124 yds rushing.

Raiders never made any real attempt to run between the tackles despite having a big size advantage up front. Bucs did commit to the run and it paid off.

Refs were bad-and were supposively the cream of the crop.