I will be staying in Barra da Tijuca in July. I am stayiing down there for at least a two weeks, due to some business interests. I will be looking at developing some land or perhaps buying some properties. I talked my business partner, recently divorced after 27 years, into going down there with me so he could loosen up a bit and live a little. I will introduce him to my Brasileira namorada and introduce him to Gilda my girlfriendsw sister-in-law. Gilda is 5'8", 31 years, no kids, fantastic body. Tits, ass, legs, long black hair, gold eyes no cellulite. Incredible garota. If anyone is interested I will send you some pics so you can judge. She is looking for a relaciomento serio (translation: serious relationship) and is wary of mongers, so don't expect to get buceta. And you better be a nice guy, professional and have bucks. I will be checking you out myself as a favor to my namorada.

What a prize. You may need a bigger inbox to handle all the inquiries.

Turk the Matchmaker... in a buyer's market no less! Chutzpah in action....



BS

Thankfully, Turk's putarada, er namorada goes for much less than the sister-in-law


Turk, keep those posts coming, we're all in stiches down here reading this bullshit!

Wait a minute people. When I mentioned that my brasileira girlfriend had a friend named Gilda who was interested in meeting an American, I didn't say she was a programa garota or terma girl. I mentioned that she was a very decent garota, albeit with a nice body, but she is very interested in a longterm, serious relationship. So far I have received numerous inquiries from the lowest mongers on this planet. Judging from the very language of the emails I have received, there appears to be nothing but bad intentions by the majority of you. It ain't going to happen. If you think that you are going to get a free piece of ass out of this, forget it. I am on to you. Unless you are sincerely interested in a relationship, and willing to explore the possibilities, then please don't write. You are wasting my time, and you are wasting Gilda's time.

Sincerely,



Turk

Turk,

This is a place for guys who frequent prostitutes. If you're looking for "Mr. Right" I'd suggest you look elsewhere. But first, try pulling your head out of your ass.

Sterling

Actually Turk, most of us are also interested in a long term, serious, relationship with a garota. Lasting from 2 to 12 hours, depending on needs and taste.

But, if you think that any "member" of this board living in Brazil is going to react with anything other than a yawn over the possibility of a longer term relationship with a 31 year old non-pro garota (without cellulite? Oooooo!), pass the crack pipe when you're done, willya?

Turk, let's see, a woman in her thirties, that is looking for a man with money, but don't expect pussy from her. Wow! Sign me up, because I sure can't find that in the U.S.

Turk:

You already know I am one of your fans, I admire your achievement of a good long-term rleationship with your Campo Grande girl, and your willingness to share details of your "courtship" with the board. Despite what some of the gusy wrote, there is a place here on CH for discussing stable non-pro, longterm relationships with brasileiras or any other girl (except gringas! hehehe). And again, I thank you for being so open about your relationship.

Thant being said, COME ON, 30 something garotas in Brazil hungry LT relationship with a gringo (or anyone esle) are a dime a dozen. I think everybody's sour reaction was because of your statement "I will be checking you out myself".. my immediate thought was "Fuck you, buddy, I don't need you vetting me". With all due respect of course. Nobody wants free pussy from your "sister-in-law", anybody with a swinging dick can get all the free 30-year-old pussy he can handle (gotta have game of course). So, that's why you got all the shit over your "kind offer" of your sister-in-law....

Abraco,

BS

Badseed,

Don't take what I said literally to mean that I will be looking over your shoulder. I don't live in Rio, but in California.

Gilda is a very nice lady, and I just want to make sure that the mongers here don't try to take advantage.

It is apparent that seveal had the wrong idea judging from the emails I received.

My girlfriend asked me to see what I could do for her girlfriend as a personal favor and I am only laying out the ground rules.

In the end it is going to be Gilda's choice. If she picks the wrong man, that's her problem. So have a great time when you are in Rio.

Turk

Cheap massage parlors open at 10am, downtown and in Copa, so you have an alternative!!!


By Youngtom on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 05:54 pm: Edit

I really don't know what that action is like in Barra da Tijuca. I'm going to spend a few days up there next trip. Given that about all I do in Rio is wait until about 3 or 4pm for the termas to open,

Hey Brazil_Specialist,

It's a sad testament that all you have to do is wait until 3 o 4 pm for the termas to open. Truly sad state of affairs. I would strongly suggest you bone up on your Brazlian portuguese. Line up some Garotas. They are dying to meet you. Check out http://br.encontros.yahoo.com/en/ Like I do. Although I have a Brazilian girlfriend, I love to play just like you mongers. I have a basic principal: I refuse to pay for sex so the termas are off limits to me, and also because you stand a high chance of catching something. On my first trip two years ago my roommate caught something on the third day. He was down the rest of the week. He should've been in the hospital. I don't know how he maid it. I used to bring food to the dude. You guys want to end up like that be my guest.

It's a sad testament that all you have to do is wait until 3 o 4 pm for the termas to open. Truly sad state of affairs. I would strongly suggest you bone up on your Brazlian portuguese. Line up some Garotas. They are dying to meet you.

Too funny.
1) If you read it, the post was by Youngtom. BS rarely goes to Termas.
2) You've obviously never met BS. His portuguese is very very good. Mine is decent but I would say that Brazil Specialist's is the best of any gringo I know down there. That includes guys who have lived in Rio 15-20 years and another who works as a lawyer there.

You're right about there being loads of garotas in Rio. That's why I'm comfortable to stay single, there is always other pussy available, be it regular girls, pros, semi-pros. I've had enough steady girlfriends in Rio to know that the hassle factor can be high. As Charlie Sheen said I don't pay them to come I pay them to go.

OTOH, other guys grab a girl and hang onto her for dear life in case they can't get another. Each to their own, I suppose.

Turk you are full of crap. You always pay. You are the only one that thinks you dont. And trust me, the vast majority of the guys here that do pay, do it because they prefer it. They dont want to be in your situation where you are shelling out dough everyday to keep your 30 year old, over the hill girlfriend happy so you can fuck the same old tired pussy every day.

Hey gcl

I've been back to the USA for about 14 days. If I could find some half decent 30 year old tired pussy for 70 reals back here I think I'd be all over it. It just takes to damn much energy to get any Pussy here. Its looking more likely that I will be a fellow brazilian before long.

Turk
I've been quarantined in the USA for 5 months now, during which time I've grown to appreciate the beauty and charm of women in their 30's and, yes, even into their 40's. Don't let the insensitive remarks of the likes of GCL upset you. He simply does not know what he is missing.

I'm coming to Brazil soon, and would like to meet your girlfriend. Tell me, do I pay you or her the 70 reals?

>>I used to bring food to the dude. You guys want to end up like that be my guest.<<

That sounds downright awful.

Turk,
I hate to confess this because it will confirm something Deeg has said above--and believe me when I tell you that he is the person I most despise in the entire world. I would rather sit with Charles Manson in my foxhole than he. I have a vericose vein fetish. There, I said it.

So anyway, now that you know. Can I have the number of the 30 year old you trying to hook up. I promise I will treat her well.

I'll take sloppy seconds on the 30-year-old.

Some gratuitous stimulation for GCL, to tide him over while he has Charles Manson "in his foxhole"


A screen capture from one of GCL's live sex shows, explaining his varicous vein fetish. Turk, I suggest you show this to your garotas girlfriend BEFORE she meats him 'in the flesh'.

I neglected to mention my offer to go for sloppy seconds with Gilda applies only if it is a freebie. I'm not about to put down 70 reais for her when for the same money I can get a few sessions with the younger crowd at Rua Buenos Aires 85. Just want to make sure my offer is not misconstrued.

Ah, a bunch of pissed off hombres, who actually prefer to pay for sex. Waiting until 3:00 for the Termas to open. That's a pretty depressing outlook on life. So what else do you do between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m.?? Jeeze, what an existence. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun to me. Sititng around waiting for 3 horas to roll around. When I go I have somebody with me ALL DAY. And just so you will know, my garota is not in her 30's. Get it right next time.

So Dongringo is that a picture of Gilda? I can see why LAguy is lining up for seconds. What a babe. Natural breasts too.

Turk you are the man. You mean you get to have a girl with you 24 hours a day? You can bang her in the morning while the rest of us jerk off like pathetic losers? I have to hand it to you--I think you make all of us look rather stupid. Plus, you dont even have to pay for it. Wow.

What if I just dont have what it takes? Dont have the wit and charm to get a free girl? Any suggestions?

I really don't understand point of your comments, Turk. Why would someone want to come to a "monger" board and preach about relationships. I know there are several guys here that have permanent relationships and monger too. That is why we are here to talk about mongering, not relationships.

Secondly, a thirty something woman that is looking for a nice guy with money, is not a commodity. You can find that where ever you live, you don't need to go to Brazil. Now if you want to fuck an 18 year old girl in the 8-10 range just for asking, for @$50-$60 U.S. you will probably do better in Brazil than say Utah or Nebraska.

Lastly anyone who has gone to Brazil a few times especially if you can converse in Portuguese, knows how easy a relationship is to come by there, if that is what you are looking for or not.

Sman,

I agree, after a few trips to Brasil is is pretty fucking hard not to get into a relationship with at least one garota!

I think what Turk fails to grasp is that almost everyone on this board is either currently married or is divorced/seperated, has a girlfriend/fiance at home, etc etc. Most of us go to Rio to have fun and to get away from a suffocating relationship, at least for brief time.

Now, as my Portuguese continues to improve, I might consider targeting non-pros. But, then again, why the hell would I? I have a semi-pro amiga right now that is very cool and I spend my nights (some of them at least!) with her while hanging in the termas with the guys during the day. It's a kickass situation and I am hoping to make it a habit.

My last trip, I was in town for 12 days. The first 6.5, I was nailing everything in site. One or two termas per day, then either TA/Help at night or a hotel programma with a Luomo garota. One night it rained so fucking hard nobody really went out - LVDoc and I were pissed that Karla's wouldn't send girls out for us!

Then, on day 6, after a long day of termas (two in centro) I finally called my favorita over and we had a nice 5 night "relationship". I still hit a terma each day and even went to TA/Help a night or two to socialize with the guys.

Basically, my long-winded post is just to explain that Rio is different things to different people. Almost everyone has a relationship of some sort at home, but in Rio, some guys avoid relationships, some guys don't mind them (me), and some guys like Turk seem to seek them out. Now, who has more fun?

Regardless, this is a monger site, not the "I Miss My Nomarada Lonely-Hearts Board". I find Turk's posts to be funny as shit, even though I believe he's serious in posting them. I don't know why, though, maybe that bald head of his soaked up too much tropical sun the last time he was in Brasil and he overbaked his brainpan. He's kind of like a Klan member handing out recruiting pamphlets in front of the NAACP headquarters - he's not going to make friends and is just going to piss people off, but I still find it funny as shit!

Oh, and regarding anal - I am not afraid to say that I like cornholing the occasional garota. I can't understand why discussing anal disturbs some guys. It is a great change of pace and if the garotas like it, I like it.

Sititng around waiting for 3 horas to roll around. When I go I have somebody with me ALL DAY.

Turk is really boning up on his portuguese. He can almost say 3 o'clock now.

ALL DAY is the problem. There are lots of things I want to do on my own. Go to the internet cafe, play some footie or have some beers with my friends. I find some of the Brasileiras are very clingy and are not keen to let you of their sight for a few hours. It all gets a bit suffocating particularly when you value your independence like I do.

I dated a hot 28 year old lawyer when I was down there. She had a brand new car, own place in Botofogo etc. not exactly struggling. In the end I ditched her as I got sick of her rude attitude to her "inferiors" in bars/restaurants. Didn't exactly feel there was a long line of suitors waiting for her. As others have pointed out here good looking women of this age wanting to settle down are not exactly thin on the ground.

FWIW I also met a girl not a GP last year who has an older Italian boyfirend. First night, we went for dinner at ZaZa, on to Leblon and ended banging her at Bambina. Although she looked smoking hot she wasn't very good in the sack and admitted as much before going home in a huff.

Total cost : Approx. R350 for a poor night. As GCL says, you always pay and it would have been far cheaper for me to pull one out of Help. I'm sure we all have stories like this.

Hey Hombres,

I really enjoyed reading your posts. Just what the hell is so wrong with someone who actually goes down to Brasil to find a woman for something more than a fling. That was my original mission. And by the way, I hate paying for sex. That's definitely against my religion.

I wanted to go down there and meet lots of women and find one. I lucked out and found her. Okay? I am very happy with the choice I made. I wish I was able to go to Rio more often.

I also don't feel that when I spend money on my girlfriend that I could get better value if I went to a terma or "pulled" a girl out of Help, which by the way is just not my cup of tea. I don't look at things with such a distorted view.

The other thing that I find disgusting is the general hombre treatment of women. Some hombres (not all of you, mind you, but the majority) treat Brasileiras like sex objects, throw aways, meat, then you bitch about not getting a BBBJ out of the deal. A lot of you are just plain cheap. No class. Grow up.

I am not saying that all of you are like this, but your tone is very similar. The attacks on my namorada and Gilda. I don't appreciate the derogatory comments, and I have let a few of you know this. You know who you are.

And by the way, there are other guys like me on this forum. This forum is not built entirely around a bunch of horney guys who aren't getting enough at home, which is sad to say the least. Why the hell did you get married or get into a relationship in the USA? Then you two-time your girlfriends or wives by coming to Brasil. Hey man, just get a divorce.

Just the same I am poking a little fun at you hombres, maybe you'll realize that the garotas have the upper hand down in Brasil, not the other way around. You guys are paying, aren't you? In that case, I rest my case.

Hey Turk
I see a lot of confusion in what you are writing.

"...That's definitely against my religion. ..."
Then what the hell are you doing on this board!!!

And I think that all your "friends" here are writing things against your attitude not against your "namorada" and her sister.

What I can say is that all this has really bored me, you don't like these posts, then do not write such crap on this board!!!

Enjoy life and let other people have their experiences as they like, if someone goes in whatever country for sex and fun only or to find a "namorada" for life is his personal choice, we are in a free world....

Bye

I am an Asian enthusiast on this board who really has no interest or affiliation in either camp. So Turk I hope you take this objective assessment to heart.

It's not surprising that you are a lightening rod for ridicule and abuse from the other members of the community. The arrogant and judgemental tone of your posts is way over the top. Please consider that the best path through life is different for different people. Also, nobody wants to be lectured -- I mean berated -- about their chosen lifestyle. Especially by someone who just doesn't have all the relevant facts.

However, if you enjoy polarizing a community against you, then just carry on as you were.

I wanted to go down there and meet lots of women and find one. I lucked out and found her. Okay? I am very happy with the choice I made. I wish I was able to go to Rio more often.

I'm delighted for you. It sounds as if you don't get to hook up with many nice women so I'm glad you "lucked" out with this one. The problem is that you feel the need to mention her in every post. Personally I feel this a manifestation of your insecurity about her. This combined with Mongerx's accurate description of your "judgmental tone" is why you are taking so much flak.

I speak decent portuguese, still pretty young, considered good looking. So why haven't I a serious girlfriend there. Well I'm a graduate with two professional qualifications. Relevant? I think so. I would only consider having a serious relationship with a brasileira who has been to university, speaks good english and is 5-10 years younger than me. Sure it's nice to sleep with a 19 year old hottie but I'm thinking of the practicalities in the relationship i.e. what common interests will we have for the next 20-30 years, who can she talk to when we socialise with my friends/work colleagues, can she visit me for extended periods and ultimately have a chance to get a decent job where we live. Without these any serious relationship is likely to fail, IMO. Therefore it's a waste of time and money for me, and more importantly it's not fair to build up her hopes. So until I meet someone I can see a serious future with I would rather screw around rather than leading someone along the garden path.

That's why I admired the fact that Godfather cut off his columbiana when he saw it wasn't going to work. Yes it was painful for her but not as painful as it would have been if he had dragged it out.

So ask yourself these questions.
What's the age difference with you and your GF?
Can the relationship work long-term?
Is she likely to be tempted by someone more attractive than you if you feel you “lucked out"?
You don't get to Rio often, can she visit you or how much do you really see of each other.
Could she be seeing someone else?

If the chances of the relationship succeeding are slim then it is you who is treating this Brasileira unfairly.

One final story. I met a mineira in Rio last year. She was on her way back to BH because her French boyfriend was coming to Rio 2 days later. Problem was he'd been 2 weeks earlier and his return visit coincided with her Italian boyfriend coming to Rio. Didn't stop her coming home with me for some fun that night. We've kept in touch and she's going to France to get married later this year before returning to Brasil and wants to hook up with me again. I'm sure there's a proud Frenchman showing pictures of his beautiful brasileira fiancee not knowing the UN has fucked her behind his back.

Are you sure your situation is that different?

I’m sorry but you just seem to have that “it could never happen to me/my girl is different” attitude that means it will most likely end in tears. Not that we'll ever hear about it.

Turk5555: It really does not matter what others say on the board. Although, I do have a question for you. If you really want a steady relationship, and hate paying for sex, what the fuck are you doing on this board? However, getting past that, and assuming you are confused, Brisaleras do make good wives. However, be careful, they are really the jealous types, and will dismember you in a moment if they think you are hobbying.

OH

Turk isnt special. The odds are strongly in favor of her banging other guys while he is gone. This is a common problem which happens to the majority of guys I know who get into "committed" relationships where the expectation is that she wont do the "nasty" with other people--or where she will stay off the program. It just doesnt work like that.

Sex to Brasilian girls is not a big deal, whether they are on the program or not. Unfortunately, egos wont allow most people to honestly confront this reality and they fool themselves into thinking "this one is different".

This however is the least of Turks problems. He operates from the basic premise that he has a better situation then mongers because he is in a committed relationship. The assumption being that everyone envies his position. He cant even imagine most people wouldnt even want this relationship he so covets. To top it off, he is smug and condescending in his posts. But when people lash back at him he cant take the heat.

Turk...wake up dude.



(Message edited by gcl on May 07, 2004)

What is perhaps most telling about Turk is his opening statement "I really enjoyed reading your posts". Didn't we largely trash this troll? Clearly Turk thrives on controversy; which is perhaps why he wants to actually DATE latinas?

At least Turks presence here gives me a break from my normal daily routine. And besides, I was running out of pins to stick in my GCL doll.

Hadn't seen this thread until now...what a pleasure! I've been laughing my ass off for the past 10 minutes!

I don't know how many garotas I've sessioned with who were in committed relationships. On my last trip alone I sessioned with three married girls whose husbands don't know their chosen profession (the hubbies think they do babysitting), one garota who's married to an American, one garota who is engaged to an American, and one who, in her words, is "in a very serious relationship." Two others talked about several guys who send regular checks in the belief that they are in a "committed relationship," although the girls declined to characterize the relationship in those terms. And his last trip was hardly unusual in this regard. On an earlier trip I did a favorite of mine who is now married to an American (a former CH'er), and learned afterwards that she was 2 months pregnant. The way she explained it to me, her "cheap bastard" husband had not sent enough money that month, so what's a girl to do?

Me...I'm pure cachorro safado. I enjoy the friendships I have with the girls, but my committments are hourly or daily, and I keep clearer on what the costs will be in that manner.

I wish the best of luck to any guys who hope to form committed relationships with program girls. Just know if she's attractive, thousands of guys like me are going to be waving reais in her face and suggesting that she be their namorada for an hour or two. Odds are she'll go for a few of those offers.

Turk; One thing that I wonder about is, do you send any money to her? If so how much and why?

I personally haven't given your girlfriend or Gilda much thought. And I doubt very few hombres could care less about these girls. Its your condescending and defensive statements that I find humorous. You seem to really enjoy bickering with other members on this board. I'd assume your loving relationship with that special garota takes on a similar attribute.

Some of you have asked why I am on this board. I use the board as a way to get information on what is going on in Brasil. There's a lot of info on this forum that does not relate to termas. And, quite frankly, I actually enjoy the reparte and discussions with lost and lonely hombres who bitch about their girlfriends or chicks back home and the great attitude of the chicas in Brasil. I could not agree more. Having visited Brasil several times I am wary of the high crime, diseases, ripoffs and so forth. There is a lot of good natured ribbing on this forum, and I can roll with the punches, but don't appreciate it when it goes beyond this and becomes personal. If you say something personal about me or my girlfriend I bite back. You will get slammed. That's basically it. So be nice to me and I will be nice to you. So what is wrong with being here--absolutely nothing.

Turk

Sorry but I havent really been following this GF story. Is she a working girl or a girl you met elsewhere ?

So Turk will you answer my question above your last post? You know the one asking how much money you send down there every month?

Oh so I am guessing she is a working girl?
I gotta read all these posts now

Here is Turk's reply via the inbox, to my question above.

Turk5555
SUBJECT IN answer to your question
MESSAGE Roadglide,

Since you have been so persistent in making my business your fucking business, how about if you just screw yourself.

You are no expert on Brazil. I am.

Asshole.


Turk

I never said I was an expert on Brazil.

I just wanted to know if you financially support this girl in Brazil, so that when I fall in love down there I will know how much it's going to cost me.

Roadglide

Turk must have been on the boat with Cabral or something!

I love self-proclaimed experts on Brasil, or any country for that matter. I will say, though, this shit continues to make me laugh!

Com 'on, take it easy on Turk, guys. lack of hair means the brain bakes easily, *me* being a case in point...

Abraco,

BS

Celeb status is acheived when you have threads named after you.
I posted something on the Turk thread accusing this Turk sideshow of being a shill. Which one of you guys is it?

I think Turks response is pretty telling. If he wasnt paying her he would have easily responded. The truth is killing him.

Turk must have been on the boat with Cabral or something!



IIRC from the photos he posted here he certainly looks old enough.

When he says it's a serious relationship he obviously means he's sending her serious amounts of money!

I am no longer accepting any emails from hombres interested in Gilda. Although I received many responses, the vast majority were nothng more than pussy expeditions. Some were outright vulgar. You try to be accomodating and nice to hombres and you get insults. No wonder you have to pay for sex. Only two hombres demonstrated a sincere interest in a relationship with a Brasileira. I have have forwarded the personal information you supplied plus your pics to Gilda. I understand Gilda has responded to a gentleman from Philadelphia. Gilda is a really nice garota, and I just have a feeling that the two of you will hit it off. Please do not write any derogatory remarks concerning this email.

Damn it!!

I was just about to email you about her!

Wow, do you really mean the SWEEPSTAKES are over? I missed out? I hope one day I might aspire and reach such lofty status with the girls of Brazil that you have attained Turk! Prostitutes or non-pros!

Turk would it be possible for you to share some of your hallowed secrets on finding a beautiful non-professional Brazilian girl! I can not even begin to share my frustration with you on how difficult it is to find a regular non-pro girl in a country where (i) the female population is considerably larger than the male population, (ii) the ability for Brazilian girls to make a reasonable wage is nearly impossible, and (iii) the wealth disparity between Brazil and the US (where I hail from) is so large.

Considering these odds Turk I am at my wits end and am desperate for your help!

Please share your suave tactics with me!

Desperately waiting your for your sage advice.

Sincerely,

Kenmore