Archive 22

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By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 08:09 pm:  Edit

Detroit (game 3) -4.5 over Mil.--- WIN by 10, 10 units won
NBA Playoffs to date--- won 10 units

By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 05:13 am:  Edit

Minnesota (game 4) -3 over Denver--- 3.3 units to win 3 units

By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

Minnesota (game 4) -3 over Denver--- Won by 2, lost 3.3 units
NBA Playoffs to date-- 6.7 units won


By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 05:34 pm:  Edit

Minnesota to win the title (6-1)-- 3 units

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:06 am:  Edit

Spurs are gonna roll !!!!
Spurs to win series over Lakers (-150) 12 units to win 8 units
Pistons to win series over Nets (-200) 12 units to win 6
Spurs (game 1) -4.5 ----2.2 units
Pistons (game 1) -5 ---- 3.3 units

By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:29 am:  Edit

T-wolves to win series over Kings (-210) 12.6 units to win 6 units

T-wolves (game 1) -5.5----- 2.2 units

3 team parlay---- Spurs -5, Pistons -5, T-wolves -5.5---- 1 unit to win 6 units

By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:07 pm:  Edit

Spurs game 1 win by 10 over Lakers -4.5--- win 2 units

NBA Playoffs to date -- won 8.7 units

By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 07:55 pm:  Edit

Pistons -5 game 1 win by 22 over Nets--- win 3 units

NBA Playoffs to date-- won 11.7 units

By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 05:21 am:  Edit

T-wolves game 1 -5.5 over Sac. lost by 6--- lost 2.2 units

3 team parlay won 2 lost 1 game-- lost 1 unit

NBA Playoffs to date won 11.7 units lost 3.2 -- total won 8.5 units

By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 05:24 am:  Edit

Spurs (game 2) over Lakers on the money line -185 --- 3.7 units to win 2 units

By Porker on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 09:12 pm:  Edit

Watching the 'Glove' chase Tony Parker around is pretty funny. Parker's good, no doubt, but jeez, Gary, where the hell's your pride, man?

By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:22 am:  Edit

Did you see the crossover Parker layed on George, George was pickin his jock out his arse. It be nice to see a sweep but the Lakers will probally have one game at home that they will make everything they throw up, it`s likely the Spurs will get one of the two in LA.

By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:29 am:  Edit

Spurs (game 2) over Lakers on the money line -185, won by 10 --- win 2 units
NBA Playoffs to date --- won 10.5 units



By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:33 am:  Edit

Detroit (game 2) -230 on the money line over the Nets --- 4.6 units to win 2 units

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 07:11 am:  Edit

Pistons roll !!! One gets the feeling this team can turn it on whenever they chose, this is definitely a special team.

Detroit (game 2) -230 on the money line over the Nets - win by 15---- win 2 units

NBA Playoffs to date--- won 12.5 units

By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 05:20 am:  Edit

Minnesota +5 (game 3) over Sac.--- 4.4 units to win 4 units

Minnesota + 200 (game 3) on the money line over Sac.--- 4 units to win 8 units

By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 07:00 am:  Edit

Whew, T-wolves survive !!! What a game,one of the great NBA playoffs games ever. Thought we were cruising to an easy win then Sac. starts draining 3`s, they made everything they threw up to send it to OT. Couldn`t sleep for a hour or so after the game (3AM) and am paying the price this morning.

T-wolves +5 over Sac.--- win by 1--- win 4 units

Twolves +200 on the money line over Sac.-- win by 1--- win 8 units

total won 12 units
NBA Playoffs previous to date-- won 12.5 units
NBA Playoffs up to date --- won 24.5 units

By Pecs82001 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 09:36 am:  Edit

Hey dude, good call. Played the same way you did and banked last night but not without a sweat.

Lakers tonight? I don't like this one. Lakers favorite but I think Spurs to win outright. Not betting.

By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 04:35 pm:  Edit

Thanks Pec, i agree on the Lakers game, Spurs could get it outright, same here not betting, there`ll be better games down the road.

By Pecs82001 on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:08 pm:  Edit

Good bets now days has been Angels and Dodgers the last 2 weeks. I've only lost maybe 2 games the last 2 weeks.

By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 06:39 pm:  Edit

Spurs 2cd half -5.5 (even) over Lakers game 5 ---- 4 units to win 4 units

By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 05:47 am:  Edit

Spurs 2cd half -5.5 over Lakers game 5 --- Spurs win by 6 --- win 4 units

NBA Playoffs to date--- won 26.5 units

If this keeps up i`ll have a heartattack before long, back to back amazing games that came down to the last shot.

By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:45 pm:  Edit

Oops, i can`t add, last post should of read:
NBA Playoffs to date--- won 28.5 units (not 26.5 units)

By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:52 pm:  Edit

2 team parlay- Pistons (moneyline -300) & T-wolves (moneyline -260)--- 6 units to win 5.1 units

3 team parlay-- Pistons (moneyline -300) & t-wolves (ml-260) & Spurs +5 --- 2 units to win 4.8 units

By Maximus743 on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:14 am:  Edit

Dude you are winning some serious cash

I hope you cash big on the Spurs beating the Lakers tonight

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 07:43 pm:  Edit

Spurs +6 -130 over the Lakers game 6 --- 3.9 units to win 3 units

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 07:51 pm:  Edit

Max, the Spurs gotta do it tonight, they should, i feel pretty confident.

By Khun_mor on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 11:16 pm:  Edit

They never had a chance !!

By Maximus743 on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 03:13 pm:  Edit

Fuck the lucky ass Lakers

The friggin real Spurs did not show up.

LOOK at their avg shooting percentage and how they did last night.

Damn I fucking hate the LAkers.

Only upside is Malone who I loved on the Jazz will finally get a ring.

Maybe the Twolves can pull an upset.

By SF_Hombre on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 03:23 pm:  Edit

Maximus -- Humble pie don't taste good, do it.

By Erip on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:08 pm:  Edit

Max...I am with you on this. Laker success is nothing more than Voodoo (not simple luck). Though I can't imagine why the mysterious forces of the universe would be aligned with these overprivileged arrogant rat bastards, unless it is true that the force travels with Phil.

On paper the T'Wolves, Kings and Pacers are all far superior teams to the Lakers, but admittedly us Laker haters start to get discouraged after witnessing a debacle like the Spurs series...or the Trail Blazers a few years back. Kings and Pacers have already demonstrated their lack of championship character (the Pacers by losing ANY games at all to Miami). My hopes are on Minny, but not my money.

By Erip on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:20 pm:  Edit

I should add that now that final regular season debacle of black magic takes on significance as the Lakers will get home arena advantage against either Minny or Sacto.

Last game: Portland leads Luckers by 3 with final seconds of the 4th counting off. Refs call a loose ball foul on Trail Blazer competing for possession with a Lucker...but the thing is, the ball is loose and rolling near the half court stripe with .07 seconds left when the foul is called. There may or may have not been a foul committed...the foul could probably have gone either way. But the plain fact is if the Laker player gets the ball at half-court with .07 remaining, there is no opportunity to score whatsoever so the only thing the foul accomplishes is to facilitate a scoring opportunity for the Luckers that actually recovering possession in the flow of the play would NOT have!! What happened to the "no harm no foul" concept in the NBA? FUCK FUCK FUCK!! You know what happens next - inbound to Kobe...Voodoo 3-pointer...tie game. Overtime, more last second Voodoo Kobe, Lakers steal the Pacific title from the miserable choking Queens.

NO, I WILL NOT FUCKING RELAX!!!

By Superman on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:55 pm:  Edit

Lakers will have home court against Sacramento, but not Minnesota ... the Wolves had the best record in the West.

-Superman-

By Khun_mor on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 10:39 pm:  Edit

Maximus
The real Spurs showed up. They were just greeted by excellent defense. Gotta give credit where it is due. Parker found himself on his ass or surrounded by several Gold shirts whenever he tried to penetrate. The Lakers closed off the paint and forced the Spurs to make outside shots. This was something they were very inconsistent at all year. Thus their poor shootig percentage. The better team won ---- Get over it !!
ERIP
ON PAPER-- the Lakers are the best team in the history of the NBA . Cannot agree with your assessmnent that Suckramento or the Dogs are better teams-- " on paper ". The Pacers are not even the best team in the East-- Detroit by far.

The only team that can beat the Lakers is the Lakers.

By Erip on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 11:57 pm:  Edit

Khun mor, I would almost agree with you if the Payton, O'Neal and Malone on the paper were capable of playing consistently up to their Hall of Fame form, but they aren't (I still believe the formerly indestructible Malone's 2/3 of a season long injury was a ruse to keep him fresh for the playoffs).

Supe, I admit that I truely have not kept close contact with the end of the season standings and playoffs. I was thinking that Minny had the best record and would have home court, but then wondered why the Spurs had home court against the Lakers if they finished behind Minny in that division....thinking that maybe they overcame Minny at season's end with the long winning streak.

Anyhow, doesn't winning their division give the Lakers a guaranteed 2nd seed in the Western Conference playoff even if the 2nd place team in the other division has a better record?

By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 07:50 am:  Edit

Erip-- Yes, winning the division gives Lakers the no. 2 seed but, the team with the better record gets home court advantage regardless of seed, it`s something they changed a few years back.

I agree with Max on this one, had the Spurs made their outside shots they win the series, i give the Lakers credit for defensive adjustments in closing down the lane buit the Spurs just missed wide open jump shots and 3 pointers, had they shot their season average they win the series. Last year when they beat the Lakers they made their 3 pointers and other outside shots. If you remember Parker went in the tank last year on occasion and they brought Speedy Claxton off the bench many times to save the day and he played very well.

I wouldn`t be so sure that the Lakers will win the title, Minn. is very good and so is Detroit both have a very good chance at beating the Lakers.

By Silver on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 03:13 pm:  Edit

I just read both side of the argument and one side consistently states too many if's and but's.

I hate to break it to ya but... "if's and but's were nuts and candies. We all have a very wonderful CHRISTMAS :-)


Khun_mor,

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Fooledagain1, Maximus,

Name one proven outside shooter the Spurs have. There are no Stephen Jackson or Steve Kerr from last year's squad. Bruce Bowen albiet is a decent defender but a ham 'n eggers in all other aspect of his game. Given the amount of open looks he gets... he sucks!

Hedo Turkoglu has never done anything. Horry is past his prime as last year playoffs attested to. Ginobili and Parker have alot of game but aren't sharp shooter either.

Then you have to factor in the pressure of the playoffs and even a few years back when the "better shooting" Kings succumbed to the same pressure.

That's what make Kobe... Kobe!

Erip,

The T-Wolves, Kings, & Pacers are better then the Lakers on paper? There were atleast 10 teams better then the Marlins on paper too. Most might even say that Indy was better then New England in football too. What's your point?

That's why they play the game.

Furthermore, you didn't say they were better but that they are "FAR SUPERIOR". Are you fricken kidding me?

And stop being like everyone else with the conspiracy theory when thing don't go your way.

Malone was hurt. If he wasn't. All they had to do is limit his minutes without concern about what anyone else think.


take care, silver

By Maximus743 on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 03:20 pm:  Edit

Khun Mor

You and I must have watched different games.

Silver

I bet you were happy to see your boy Kevin Willis. :-)

By Silver on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 04:45 pm:  Edit

Maximus,

Klun_mor watched the same game as you but without the rose colored glasses :-)

Just read all the posts above. Anyone with a third grade education can tell who's making a valid point and who's talking out of their asses :-)


take care, silver

By Silver on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 05:00 pm:  Edit

Fooledagain1 wrote... "I agree with Max on this one, had the Spurs made their outside shots they win the series."


If my gramma had balls... she'd be a man. If the Yankees hit better with man in scoring position... they'd win the Series last year.

What's your point?

It's over and the Spurs lost 4 straight. It wasn't a one game - one shot - situation.

You can say that Fisher's shot was a fluke but Tim Duncan last two made shot was borderline lucky too.

Had Robert Horry shot in game 5 last year went in. The Lakers would have came home up 3-2 with all the momentum in the world and would have closed out the Spurs like they did this year.

Call that even and stop whining about how all the ham 'n eggers that the Spurs have can't hit a shot in crunch time.

Was any of them Ray Allen or Dirk Nowitzki? Who was missing all the shots? Tracy MacGrady or Peja Stojakovic.

It was a bunch of role players that couldn't step up when the Lakers actually focussed themselves.


take care, silver

By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 08:41 pm:  Edit

Silver-- Go back and reread my post, no where did i say the Spurs shooters were great shooters, please don`t put words in my post i didn`t say, i said : If they shot their average they would of won the series, whatever their average is, just shoot it, if it`s 15% and they shot 5% then they didn`t shoot their average.

Turkoglu shot 101 of 241, 41.9% good for 8th best in the league, not exactly chump change, but hit only 28.6% against the Lakers. As a team the Spurs shot 35.8% during the season and 30.6% against the Lakers. Majorioty of those misses were wide open shots that had little to do with the Lakers defense.That`s my piont.

With that said, the Lakers won fair and square, you have to play the game and deliver when the game is on the line, the Lakers did and the Spurs didn`t, case closed, game over.

By Silver on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 09:44 pm:  Edit

Fooledagain1,

Nowhere did you mentioned in your post that the Spurs had great shooters but I also didn't quoted you of saying such.

You stated that if they shot better. ie... their season average. My point back to you was that...

a) They aren't proven commodity so don't expect normacy from ham 'n eggers who has never delivered on a consistent basis before.

b) The playoffs is a different beast and will seperate the men from the boys real quick.

c) Why play the games when all we need to do is just tossed all the stats into a Playstation or Nintendo and see who wins.

And to use your Turkoglu as an example. I stated that he has done nothing up to this point. Nice regular season stats done mean squat to me. I look for guys who have the internal fortitude then guys with nice stats.

Turkoglu doesn't have that mental toughness. It's not in his nature. It's nothing personal against him but just pointing that out to illustrate a point.

Why did Sacramento get rid of him? He doesn't have that certain "it" factor that some guys are born with.

I'll use the Indy/NE Championship game again to make a point.

Tom Brady doesn't have Peyton Manning glorious background. He wasn't the first player picked like Peyton. He was actually drafted in the 6th round. Yet he walked around very cocky.

Just like Eli Manning walks around and talked with arrogance.

Did Peyton ever beat the Gators? But his brother did with a lesser team.

How did Peyton responded when NE came into town to battle for homefield advantage? By getting pummeled early before a late rally that came up short. How did he responded to NE first TD in the Championship game? By throwing an INT on first and goal.

Point is... he doesn't have what it take to win the big games.

It's easy to layed "CHALK" game in and game out all the time and when thing don't go according to plan. Just blamed it on the team not performing like they should. There are other factors to look for on a game by game or series by series case.

I hope you don't think I am attacking you purposely as I have made comment to you during the football playoffs too.

You are one of the few that posts on sports matter and I will only respond when I disagree with certain opinions and not respond to cause controversy.


take care, silver

By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:42 am:  Edit

2 team parlay game 5`s piston (ml) & t-wolves (ml) --- lost 6 units

3 team parlay pistons (ml) & t-wolves (ml) & Spurs +5 --- lost 2 units

NBA Playoffs to date--- Won 20.5 units

Spurs +6 game 6 over LA--- lost 3.9 units

NBA Playoffs to date --- won 16.6 units

Spurs to win the series over LA --- lost 12 units

Spurs to win the NBA Title --- lost 7 units

NBA Playoffs to date --- lost 2.4 units

Yep, it`s offical, Lakers killed me. But, i`ll be back.

By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:47 am:  Edit

2 team parlay game 7`s --- Pistons (ml)-240 & t- wolves (ml) -210 --- 4 units to win 4.3 units

By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 05:05 am:  Edit

T-wolves to win the series over Sac. -210 --- 12.6 units to win 6 units --- WIN 6 units

NBA Playoffs to date --- won 3.6 units

By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:28 pm:  Edit

Pistons roll !!!!!!

2 team parlay game 7`s --- Pistons (ml) & T-wolves (ml) ---- WIN 4.3 units

Pistons to win the series over the Nets (-200) -- 12 units to win 6 units --- WIN 6 units

NBA Playoffs to date --- WIN 13.9 units

Futures still working :

Pistons to win NBA title --- 4 units @ 10-1
Twolves to win NBA title --- 3 units @ 6-1

2004 playoffs to date --- NFL- won 25.4 units, NCAA tournament - won 10 units, NBA - won 13.9 units ----- total units won 49.3

By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 05:51 pm:  Edit

Twolves (game 1) +3 (-130) over LA --- 2.6 units to win 2 units

Twolves to win the series over LA (+275) --- 2 units to win 5.5 units

By Pecs82001 on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 11:00 pm:  Edit

Had to go against you this time. the Lakers are on a mission and can't bet against them.

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 06:44 am:  Edit

Yea, it looks like you might be right, after being down 2-0 to SA they look like a totally different team. Cassel`s injury is a killer, he had a monster year, shot 48% and saved the year in game 2 against Sac. and played well in game 7.

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 06:56 am:  Edit

Detroit over Indy to win the series (+140) --- 4 uints to win 5.6 units

Detroit (game 1) +6 (-130) over Indy --- 1.3 uints to win 1 uint

Detroit (game 1) ML over Indy (+205) --- 1 uint to win 2.05

Detroit should get 1 of the first 2 games in Indy, but 50-50 if it`s game 1 or 2.
But again, Rasheed`s injury could be a killer if he can`t play.