Sha Ching indeed...and the merchandise wasn't delivered. Sounds like a clearcut case of fraud to me, and Turk is an accessory to the crime.

My analysis, if this whole Gilda thing is true, is that, one, Rick is an idiot. If I check into a hotel with a garota, be it my favorita or a short-term/overnight rental, my dick will be in her mouth within fifteen minutes after closing the door to the hallway. So, none of this waiting around for the payoff for me.

Second, when I go to Rio Sul, which I have only done with my favorita, she is on a fairly tight budget. My maximum expenditure to date, on one shopping run, was about R$160, and that was for two pairs of shoes (tax included).

Third, I like Rick's ability to make a little lemonade out of the situation by kicking her out. Now, if I were to ever allow shit to get that point, I would end it in a different way, such as bringing a garota into Gilda's room, while Gilda slept, laying the new unit down on the bed next to her, naked, take some pics for posterity, and then initiating a loud fuck session. At that point, Gilda should wake up. Two things are most likely to happen here - Gilda will get up and run out, which is good, or she will join in, which may or may not be good.

It does sound like my initial thoughts are true, that Gilda does need to be cornholed, immediately and repeatedly.

Taxes on merchandise??? Where Cat?

Taxi included, my bad Sandman.

Has anyone noticed its been over 24 hours without one of Turk5555's idiotic posts? Something must be up. I'm thinking maybe Rick threw a few reais at Gilda's thug brothers to make Turk5555 "go away."

Khun mor,

I don't know where you derived that I set up Rick (not real name). No one was holding a gun to his head. And, by the way, just so you know, it was Rick's idea to take her shopping. I was not involved in this at all. I sent gilda three sets of pictures from some Hombres, and she picked Rick. I didn't even know about this until way later. I have better things to do than play matchmaker.

Kenmore,

Are you named after the washing machine company. Just kidding, just a pun.

With regards to your comment:

"Friends don't hook Friends up with girls like GILDA"

I am not YOUR friend, let's get that clear.

Regarding your final comment:

"Second, FUCK patience! If you can't get a girl into bed by the second date, you don't want her. Chances are nearly 100% that she sucks in bed....among other things"

You don't know what you are talking about. You're limited knowledge of women is shown by your comments. The reason why you come to Brasil is because you can't get buceta back in the USA. If this is your attitude toward women, then you don't know that much about women.

I rest my case....Cha Shing, Cha Shing


Turk

I guess once again Turk proved me wrong. There is no end to his idiocy.

OTOH, he does seem to be getting a bit unglued. He can't even spell Sha Ching anymore (or has he added a new word to his vocabulary?)

(Message edited by LAguy on June 01, 2004)

For the rest of you MOSCAS,

First, I welcome a posting from Rick. I hope he is man enough to explain why he cut out on Gilda in such a cold blooded and ruthless fashion. In my opinion the guy is a dork and coward.

I have his picture and know who this hombre including his telephone number, email and home address. If I was a real asshole I would contact him, but I am not going to. This is none of my business. I just hope he is man enought to explain himself. No woman, Brasileira or American should be humiliated in such a fashion.

Gilda was really starting to like Rick, and it is Rick's fault that he did not see those signals. It is unfortunate that Rick did not show a bit more interest in Gilda. From what I understand, the dude was somewhat standoffish. Maybe it was the language barrier, I don't know. It is his fault for not showing more intimacy. What is a garota to do, read minds?

No one held a gun to his head. All of the hombres who were interested in Gilda submitted pictures and contact information which I forwarded to my namorada who in turn showed them to Gilda.

All the hombres knew that Gilda was only interested in a relaciomento serio. She is not a chica or garota da programa. I made that very clear in my original posting. If Gilda was interested she would contact them directly via email and provide a telephone where the hombre could contact her.

I understand Rick called Gilda and they agreed to meet. Gilda made arrangements to get off work just to meet his guy. He was nice enough to arrange a room for her so I give him credit for that much.

Why this has turned into an incrimination session with name calling, insults about blow jobs and bukkake's is beyond me.

You moscas are the most revolting human beings I have ever had the displeasure of knowing, although I can't really say this, because I would not want to meet any of you. If you were down on your luck I would not lift a finger to buy you a Skol.

I tried to be nice and now I am told that I should not even be part of this forum. Well, that is BS. Plenty of hombres post here, and they don't act like dickheads.

In closing,


Cha Shing, Cha Shing

To the moscas,

One other thing, which I forgot to mention, Gilda sent Rick (not real name, of course) some pictures via email and he told me via email, that she was definitely a 9 or 10 on the hombre scale.

The deal that I made with Rick was that he was NEVER to post Gilda's picture on this forum. That was definitely spelled out in no uncertian terms. I hope that upon his return, if he sees these postings, he understands this.

I don't want you mongers to get ahold of Gilda's and use them for JO material.

Cha Shing, Cha Shing

I have a feeling the "real" turk will be revealed soon....

According to my understanding of contract law, Rick's contract not to post Gilda's pictures here only prohibits Rick himself from posting them; it does not prohibit Rick from giving the pictures to someone else to post. I am sure there is a way when there is a will. On the one hand, Rick obviously is in need of a good time, and I am sure there are many on this board who could provide him some direction and guidance in finding this in Rio, a valuable commodity. OTOH, GCL has a real need for Rick's pictures of Gilda since without them his plans for a Bukkake may hit a roadblock, or, at least, become more difficult to implement. Do I see the making of a deal here?

(Message edited by LAguy on June 01, 2004)

Jesus Christ. I wish I could think of something funny to say but I am laughing so hard I have tears runnign down my face. This shit is hilarious.

(Message edited by roadglide on June 01, 2004)

I have his picture and know who this hombre including his telephone number, email and home address

Sounds like a weak attempt at blackmail to me.

I'm really starting to miss my Hong Kong hooker pal, Sha Ching. I really wish that Turk would stop talking about her.

Roadglide,

Blackmail is something I would never do. There has to be some honor among Hombres.

Rick is still in Rio de Janeiro probably having a hell of a time. I am sure he has probably forgotten the entire matter.

I believe that I am at least entitled to an explanation as to why he would dump Gilda in this manner. I introduced Rick (not real name) to Gilda, and I take this personally. What if he had dumped her in a bad neighborhood or something even worst. At least I know that she made it home safely.

Hey guys, Gilda is the sweetest, kindest garota I have ever met. You guys are just jealous that another hombre would be interested in relacionmento serio. I see nothing wrong, there are plenty of stories on this forum where Americanos have married Brasileiras.

Whoops, I pressed the wrong button.

I forgot to mention that there appears to be a conserted effort to find out who I am. Almost a mission by some of you.

Word of caution, it is not a good idea to post the names of fellow hombres. I am fairly certain that the rules of Hombre.com forbid such things.

I would be very careful if you posted my name and any other information about me on this forum.
You could lose your membership just like that and I would report this to the owner of Hombre.com.

I certainly hope that you hombres do not stoop to that level. I have taken personal attacks and mockery from most of you, but disclosing my identity or any other information about me would be absolutely abomnable.

So what goes around, comes around. This is not a threat, just a reminder. Play by the rules.

In closing,


Cha Shing, Cha Shing

Turk I do not think anyone is trying to find out who you are in real life. Many suspect you are posting all this under another handle than you usually use. I believe the folks are interested in finding out your other Hombre name if any. We all know better than to post anyone's real identity.

BTW --you said he just didn't show up for breakfast-- a far cry from dumping her in a bad neighborhood. Since " Rick " is an Hombre on a monger's board I think you already have your explanation.

Gilda got all her new clothes and shit , Rick got screwed--- Oh wait -- he didn't get screwed !!

Hahahhahahhehehehehehehe.. I'm crying from laughing too. Maybe I'm being had, the mother of all put-ons, but I think this little Turd555 is actually serious! hahahahaa, I can't fucking believe it, please tell me it isn't so! I'm gonna go shit myself now, how can anybody be such a clueless cunt? Chreeeeeiiiiiiist.....

8^D

BS

If he is pulling a ruse, it is he best in Hombre history. He has everyone wondering. Maybe he has stock in Kimberly Clark cause we are all using up kleenix like crazy wiping the tears of laughter from our faces.

Hombre: You may have a new award category going here: Ruse of the year; The alternative: Well, lets not go there just yet. Lets wait till this pans out a little further but it does have interesting possibilities. Village idiot comes to mind. Maybe you could take nominations for award category names....

Now the next question is: who is Rick (not his real name)? Anybody have a guess as to who this Rick (not his real name) might be? Could Rick (not his real name) be someone like SweetMesquite? No, Sweet wouldn't take a garota shopping. Maybe Rick (not his real name) really is named Rick, but Turk doesn't know Rick's (not his real name) real name is Rick? So many questions to ponder...

Wow...I have hit a new low! I just learned that I know nothing about women and that the only reason I travel to Brazil is because I can't get pussy anywhere else.

Turk are you saying that "I am not hot"?

Is life worth living now?

Kenmore - Don't worry buddy - I'll be your friend. - Just get rid of that FUCKIN TATOO. -
See ya next week - Hemp

I thought I came to brazil because the sex was MORE expensive in the US...

Rick (not real name),

If you are monitoring this thread, meet me tomorrow at Alcazar at 11:00AM or PM me on Hombre for a more convenient location.

We may just settle this discussion real soon.

Sandman

Yes, Dood, you're right. The sex is way more expensive in the US, and we're not even talking about sex with hookers.

exactly what I meant Bwana

To the Moscas,

What's this?? I cannot leave Relaciomento Serio for a day without finding your droppings. Having looked at the other topics in Hombre, I can see that Relaciomento Serio is HOT right now, just judging from the number of postings. Trip reports and picture postings, not withstanding. In about two weeks we are working on our third archive, soon to be four, no doubt.

Your interest in Relaciomento Serio begs the question--WHY?? Have I broken through, perhaps converted some of you mongers to the "other side". The side of common decency and respectability for Brasileiras. You mongers have to admit that mongering can get old real quick. Come on admit it.

LET'S LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS, SHALL WE??

Let's assume that you have the cohones and financial means to get laid two, maybe three times (Bwana dik standards??) in one day. At $R250 per chica this works out to $R750 per day. Let's say $R850 taking in transportation, drinks, door fees, tips and chopps at MP. Is that about right? If I am off $R100, big deal.

Multiply the above number by 4 and you get $R3400 during your mongering in RJ. This does not include the hotel room. The rest of the time you are chilling out, hanging out at MP and recooperating before you have to drag your carcus to the Aeroporto.

My God, that $R3400 could easily support a family of four for a month in Brasil. Am I right? Maybe not in the choice spots like Copa or Ipanema, but it would be good doe for a Brasileiro. Follow me so far??

If you look at the upside of a relaciomento serio, you can save yourself at least half those Reals by having a namorada Brasileira. Cristiane, my namorada has saved me tons of Reals on hotels, cabs, etc just by her shrewd bartering. Bartering is the name of the game in Brasil. And if you haven't figured it out then you will PAY..

And, by hanging out with members of her family and going out as a group to festas, boites and so forth, there is safety in numbers, I can pretty much go anywhere without any problems. Along the way I have made a lot of friends and had a great time. Really invested quality time in knowing Brasileiros.

How can you mongers ever truly appreciate Brasil if you don't even bother to really communicate and develop relationships with Brasileiros. Perhaps I am talking to a wall, and this just is not your thing, but it is mine.

In closing....


Cha Shing, Cha Shing

OH FOR CHRISTS SAKE IT'S RELACIONAMENTO NOT relaciomento YOU FUCK TARD

This smacks of my sworn adversary GCL. The rogue demeanor with which he chides the readership is yet another manifestation of his perversity. When the truth is finally made known, GCL will indubitably be behind this ruse. I've grown accustomed to such maladroit conduct from this adolscent.

He must be stopped.

It would be much cheaper, sure. That's not really too important to most folks on the board who travel often to Brazil though. Mostly, we want to go down there to bang large numbers of very attractive females. I prefer the attractive females who I have only known for 10-25 minutes, although I will repeat if I really enjoy banging them. Even if way cheaper, the thought of traveling that far to spend all my time with one chick just turns my stomach. I believe most of the board members feel at least similar. That is why selling of the namorada lifestyle is not looked upon kindly here. Clearly, that type of lifestyle works great for many people (although I think they are simply insane) but probably not for too many board members here. Just my opinion.

Tard555,
You forgot to factor in the $$ you send your "girlfriend" every month.

By the way--I concur 100% with MitchC. Clearly, noone wants to come to Brazil to hang out with the same skank every day Tard. And trust me, if she is hot I would still think she is a skank after about the 2nd or 3rd nut.

Yours in mongering,
Gcl

(Message edited by gcl on June 02, 2004)

I think the most I ever spent on pussy, in one day, was about R$600, which included taxi to/from Centro (ok, splitting the taxi with Sweet), two sessions at 65, a few Cokes and waters in the bar, and then a Help all-nighter.

There is no way any of us vets is spending 250 reals a pop for every garota. I mean, Gilda only runs 200 for all night; Christina is a little less even. Those Campo Grande garotas always run cheap.

I continue to be amused by this entity Turk. I think most of us have emailed or spoken to each other and the general consensus is that Turk is a real poster, simply because none of us could come up with stupid shit like this for this long without having to spill the beans.

Holy Shit Turk. You never cease to amaze me with your line of reasoning.
I wrote two paragraphs before realizing this is just to fucking stupid to respond to.

Coffee_maker

Enough of humor. Here is the real deal: Turk is now in the self-rationalizing state. His present posts are meant to convince himself he has not made a complete ass of himself, although I doubt they are very effective in this regard. He MUST know what a fool he has made of himself. Consider that he previously posted his pictures on this board, thereby waiving any claims to or concerns about anonymity. But now he goes to great lengths to threaten anyone who would dare to expose his identity. What has changed? Is he afraid the world will know him as a self-professed monogamist? I doubt that is his concern. The reason for his sudden concern about remaining anonymous is his fear that he would be identified as the friggin' idiot who has posted such nonsense. It is time for him to pack his bags and go away.

Festinger's Theory of Cognitive Dissonance postulates that individuals, when presented with evidence contrary to their worldview or situations in which they must behave contrary to their worldview, experience "cognitive dissonance." Dissonance is defined here as an "unpleasant state of tension." Individuals will try to relieve this dissonance in one of two ways:

1. Increase the number of consistent cognitions - In order to assimilate inconsistent information to their worldview, individuals experiencing dissonance will increase then number of consistent cognitions, thereby abating the dissonance. This often involves rationalizing...i.e. myopic focus on facts, logic, or experience which reinforces an existing worldview. In most instances, the offending inconsistent cognitions are dismissed altogether as a result of this myopic focus on extant consistent cognitions. This is called "rationalizing" because the individual seeks out semi-logical conclusions using extant cognitions and newly created consistent cognitions in order to find a way to invalidate the inconsistent cognitions. The reader must understand that we are not talking about

2. Decrease the number of inconsistent cognitions - Individuals change their attitudes to compensate for inconsistent cognitions. Instead of rationalizing, the individual excises the inconsistent cognitions from their worldview.

Basically, if you're hit in the face with the realization that you're wrong, or just a fucking idiot, you will seek out other fucking idiots to reinforce that which makes you a fucking idiot in the first place. Or, you simply ignore those of us who made you aware that you're a fucking idiot, and go on your merry way.

Cat,

That made my brain hurt.

Can you say consistent cognitions 10 times really fast?

(Message edited by Dood on June 02, 2004)

To the Moscas,

Oh my. I take a break for dinnner and you moscas leave more droppings. I am somewhat disturbed why you moscas have bestowed so much attention on me.

I find it very humorous this monger fixation with me, my identity, whether I support my namorada, my self-rationalizing state, etc.

This topic is relacionamento serio NOT termas, yet you moscas continue to post your disgusting escapades as if being a monger is a good thing. You guys are all putos who have to pay for sex, clear and simple.

By the way, Gilda is not available for any price. Rick found that out. She cannot be bought.

99% of brasileiras are not whores. They are decent women who want namorados and husbands. You mongers are only looking at things from the terma point of view, which is a distortion of reality.

Laguy, I think I am going to stay a while so get used to it. I will post from time-to-time and I just hope you will show some respect to me and my namorada.

In closing,


Cha Shing, Cha Shing

Turkey your wrong about most mongers ONLY looking at things from the Terma point of view.

I for one like to look at the Terma point of view, along with the Help point of view, along with the Escort/Lovemotel point of view, so fuck you.

Thank God for that 1%

Yours in Mongering

Oh my Deus, I am laughing so hard I may need to have a third operation this year. My eyes almost fell out. I so hope this is a ruse, if not, Turd is the most clueless male to walk this planet. Write an article for Cosmo Brasil, please.
SL

PS Deeg, I know your obsessive belief that GCL is behind all of the evil in this world is overwhelming. But, he is just not capable of this level of humor.

Let's look at the numbers: who in their right mind would be dropping an average of 250 reais/garota X 3? Not even that reprobate bastard Bwana Dik is stupid enough to waste his money like that. He...ahhem...I might drop 175 for an hour at 4X4 (includes drinks, and I don't pay the entry fee), then drop 130 reais (including taxi) for 2 hours with a Karla Models escort, then 200 reais for a todo a noite with a Terraço garota. Let's add 25 reais for drinks at the Terraço, and the total is 530 reais, or roughly $170. That amount wouldn't get you a handjob from an skanky South Dakota drugstore clerk back home. All of this money is pumped into the Brasilian economy, supporting families of all different sizes. We mongers are engaged in philanthropy in its finest form. We're doing more for the poor of Brasil than any of Lula's programs.

BTW, everyone can be bought. It just takes awhile to arrive at some people's price. You know the old joke:

Bwana: "Christane, if I give you a million reais, will you fuck me?"
Christiane: "A million reais? Sure."
Bwana: "Will you fuck me for 50 reais?"
Christiane: "No...what do you think I am? A puta?"
Bwana: "We've already established that you're a puta, We're just bickering over your price now."

'Bwana: "We've already established that you're a puta, We're just bickering over your price now."'

It's old, but it cracks me up every time I see it.. So true...

Clearly Turk has struck a cord here by challenging the quintessential bedrock of our hobby. Perhaps the most amazing aspect of this thread is the fact that it drew a seven line response from MitchC. Mitchie you must be exhausted from typing that much.

As for my take on the matter?

-As stated earlier, we pay for almost all sex

-Prostitutes are far cheaper than girlfriends or wives. Currently I am paying for sex with all three. Don't get me started on what the CostPerLoad is for married sex

-Girlfriends may be a cheaper financial alternative than wives, but is giving up variety worth it? or the emotional baggage worth it? (PS I am still waiting for a good suggestion on how to nut with the same woman after a few months... anybody?)

Turk you're either the king of comedy or the village idiot. Either way, thanks for the laughs.

Roadglide,

My response to you is in kind:

Bwana Dik,

You definitely crossed the line mentioning my namorada. That is definitely a no, no.

Hombre: A portion of this message has been removed due to a serious violation of ClubHombre's terms of service.

By the way, you are a cheap bastard as well. Thanks for providing all the details on the prices that you pay. This confirms what I just said.

As for your feeling that mongering assists in some way in curing the financial ills of Brasil, I doubt you have put a dent in it.

I have found all of your posts quite humorous, but crossing the line puts you in the same whole as Roadglide, GCL, etc.

In closing,

Cha Shing, Cha Shing

Hombre: I understand some of us have been harsh on Turk5555 (although I believe for good reason) but IMHO he has now crossed a line that merits his removal from this board. Posts wishing AIDs on members of this board should not be permitted, nor should those who post this sort of thing be allowed to continue here. Thank you for consideration of this request.

Wishing aids on someone crosses the line. Time for hombre to out this punk.. The party is over.

Okay, I have to agree with LAGuy on Turd555 having crossed a line but I dont think we can say for sure what he was talking about specifically.

He could have meant ARDS. But Bwana is a non-smoker, and not likely to catch it. It would indeed be deadly for Bwana since the last time I tried to intubate him he fought so vigorously it took everyone at the table to hold him still while we put the tube down his throat--so he isnt likely to spend much time on a respirator.

I think it is more likely that Turd is wishing Bwana contract Aarskog-Scott syndrome: A syndrome of wide spaced eyes (ocular hypertelorism), front-facing (anteverted) nostrils, a broad upper lip, a malformed ("saddle-bag") scrotum, and laxity of the ligaments resulting in bending back of the knees (genu recurvatum), flat feet, and overly extensible fingers. (WAIT A MINUTE--THAT DESCRIBES DONGRINGO).

Deeg, I have to finally agree with you. THe 7 line response from Mitch was not only insightful into his psyche, but unprecedented. Shocking stuff.