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By Superman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 09:38 pm:  Edit

Maximus, it's basic Economics. They get what the market supports. As long as fans pay the prices, the game is supported, and thus the salaries. If you are really bothered by it, flex your financial muscle by not going to the games ... if you get about 30,000 people per game to follow your lead, the salaries will drop. I find it hard to hate guys for getting every penny they can get.

-Superman-

By Maximus743 on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 01:54 am:  Edit

You are so right of course.
However I miss the days while O'Malley owned the Dodgers. He kept things affordable despite the market being able to afford more and the Dodgers had winning teams.
Now the Dodgers suck and prices are not reasonable for tickets or food.
I wish I could have the flex needed to change things, the last strike did have some effect the following season but not enough to keep things
reasonable.
I just hope the Yankees get their shit together and become WS Champs again.

By Farsider on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 08:09 am:  Edit

I can't believe the Rangers would be so stupid as to take Soriano for A-Rod. But they have a history of dumb personnel moves over the years, and they'd love to get out from under A-Rod's contract, so who knows?

If that comes to pass, wonder if Steinbrenner would try to move Jeter... and I'm not talking about to another position, I'm talking about to another team.

By Milkman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 08:13 am:  Edit

Farsider

How bout the Mariners ? They got rid of everyone and got better :-)

If I was an owner and I made a mistake of paying 25 mill for a shortstop I would trade straight up for Soriano in a sec

A 24 million dollar relief is a big relief :-) and use that 2 buy a few pitchers

By Farsider on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 09:15 am:  Edit

Milky... if I was the Rangers' owner, I'd hold out for more than just Soriano in exchange for A-Rod. Soriano is way better than he played in this years's postseason (he had a great postseason back in 2001 when he got a whole bunch of key hits), but A-Rod is the best all-around player in the game right now, and he's still pretty young. But I'll admit the Rangers wouldn't have a whole lot of leverage in a deal like that. The Yankees are probably the only team that could afford to pay him, plus A-Rod would fit into the whole New York scene like a glove.

With all the talk about the Red Sox and Cubs being jinxed teams, how about the Rangers? A long history of throwing ridiculous sums of money at players, and having it blow up in their faces. The funny thing about that situation is that A-Rod has been every bit as good as advertised.

The Mariners are an interesting situation, and in many ways the opposite of the Rangers. They seem to improve every time they lose a key player, but they still can't make it over the top. And they continue to get flack about moves they don't make.

By Farsider on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:22 am:  Edit

The "jinx" idea has been beaten to death in connection with the Red Sox and Cubs, but doesn't it seem as if baseball has more than its share of hard-luck franchises? Besides the aforementioned Bosox and Cubs, you have:

Rangers: See above post.

White Sox: Haven't won the World Series since 1917 (one year longer than the Red Sox). Have only MADE the Series twice since then: 1919 (when they lost on purpose) and 1959.

Astros: They're 0 for 6 in postseason series all-time. Have been on the losing end of maybe the three greatest NL playoff series ever (vs. Phillies in '80, Mets in '86 and Braves in '99).

Expos: The team no one wants. They keep churning out talented players and can't afford to keep them. Only one postseason appearance in their history, and they were having their best year ever back in '94 when a strike killed the season.

Phillies: If they hadn't won the World Series in '80, they'd be the all-time jinx team, never mind the Red Sox and Cubs.

Before last year, the Angels would have been on this list as well. I'm skipping over teams like the Brewers who stink every year in kind of a nondescript way.

So, what is it about the Cubs and Red Sox? Is it the way that they lose? Or could it be that there's just a higher percentage of whiners in their fan base?

By Erip on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 03:15 pm:  Edit

Superman...the A-Rod/Soriano trade rumor was broadcast on one of the L.A. sports talk radio shows...I believe Tony Bruno.

The trade makes perfect sense to me analyzed under the light of modern baseball economics. Through this year's all-star break before he went into a 2nd half slump, Soriano was on everybody's list of the best TWO young players in baseball along with Pujols. I think it will take him a while to live down his overall poor 2nd half and embarrasing postseason, but he's still going to be looked at as a prodigy by GMs all over MLB. A nice inexpensive pickup for a team that is going nowhere with the best and highest paid player in the game.

Still...it is just a RUMOR!

By Porker on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 01:23 pm:  Edit

Wow, how prescient.

Can a team ever OVERPAY for the greatest player in baseball history? Moving him to 3B, though, is sheer idiocy. Moving Jeter to 2B makes a fuckload more sense as ARod's D at SS is gold golve caliber and Jeter's range is about like mine: NON-EXISTENT.

Yankee payroll shoots up to 190 MILLION this year, even tho Tejas picks up all of the deferred money owed to Arod. Certainly not chump-change, and can you imagine what it might have been if they had re-signed Clemens, Wells and Pettite too?

By Maximus743 on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 03:37 pm:  Edit

Porker ever the Yankee basher.

Yes they can overpay and Texas did.

I guess you should have been an All Star and MVP like Jeter then. :-)

BTW, I do not think A-rod is the greatest Player ever.

Poor Soriano, I knew when he struck out so many times he was gone but I liked him and will miss him.

I do not think any ball player should make the money that A-rod has. That is idiocy. The fans get jacked in the ass with the outrageous ticket prices and outrageous food prices.

Whatever happened to Superman?
Don't think I've seen him post in awhile.

By Milkman on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 04:17 pm:  Edit

This sheds a whole new light on the East.
The Sox were sure winners now it gets interesting.

I still think He would have been a better fit in Boston.
Last year was a great year for baseball and this year might even be better.
The biggest question of the year is what team Ricky will be with :-)

By Porker on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 07:12 pm:  Edit

Max, ever the Yankee apologist, but I don't recall bashing them.

Re: Jeter, I must have missed his MVP award, he has never won one (though guys like MIGUEL TEJADA have?), and I doubt if he ever finished in the top 5 in the voting. In case you forgot AROD is the reigning MVP and was robbed countless times in the past when he clearly was a man among boys (including last year w/ Tejada). It ain't Arod's fault the idiots in Texas thought Chan Ho was ace starter material and that eight ragarms behind him made a pitching staff.

Re: the greatest player ever argument, nobody else is even CLOSE as SS is easily the most important defensive position on the field and Arod is a great SS. You don't move him for a below average (defensively) player like Jeter. You tell Jeter to get his ass to whatever position is available after you write Arod in the 3 hole at SS. And trade him immediately if he starts crying about it.

They're good friends, though, and Jeter's a class guy that knows he's second-best, so I'm sure he'll be volunteering to make the move within a week of the beginning of Spring Training?

By Farsider on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 08:35 pm:  Edit

I can't believe we were talking about A-Rod for Soriano last October. Is this board the place to go for hot sports rumors? :-)

The thinking behind moving A-Rod to third might go like this... with A-Rod being a much better defensive player than Jeter, he might be better able to handle a switch to a new position.

But I'm sure that underneath the surface, it's not that simple, and it wouldn't surprise me either to see Jeter volunteer to move to second and solve that potential little problem.

As far as A-Rod being the best player of all time... not sure I'd go that far, though he's unquestionably the best of this era. You have to remember that offensive statistics over the past 10 years or so are skewed. At the very least, though, you have to go back to the days of Mays and Mantle to find another player who did EVERYTHING as well as A-Rod. Best shortstop of all time? Probably, though I never saw Honus Wagner play. We'll have to ask Ben about that. :-)

By Lancer on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 01:47 am:  Edit

The Yankees need pitching and not more hitting. Wells, and Clemens are old and Pettite's best years are probably behind him. The Yankees have picked up Vazquez which is a step in the right direction.

They need a middle and long reliever also. They need someone as consistent as Ramiro Mendoza was for them in their dynasty years.

Good pitching stops good hitting. Just ask the underachieving(in the series)Giambi about that one. The Yankees were great in the late '90s because they were a team and not a collection of overpaid superstars which is what they are now.

The Boston Red Sox will win the American league east barring injuries.

I would take Derek Jeter any day over Arod because Jeter has proven time and again that he can play in the big games and win. Could be that Arod is a choker in big games just like Giambi is. Has Arod ever played in ANY big games yet in his career??? We'll see how this all plays out soon enough. I am a fan of any team that can win me money.

The greatest player of all time? Roberto Clemente of course.

By Silver on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:43 pm:  Edit

Lancer,

You can't and don't pass up an opportunity to get a player the likes of A-Rod! Especially if money seemed to be no object.

It still amazes me that everytime a team get a player that may not be their most urgent need. Someone will make a comment complaining that the team still haven't addressed their most pressing matter.

It's obvious what their needs are but... sometime what a team need may not be available and passing up a chance to get an A-Rod is nonsense!

It's like when a team in the NBA Western Conference make a move to strengthening their team. The stupid proverbial comment is... they didn't get a Shaq-stopper. Well my friend... there isn't one available!

Same goes for when Mike Shanahan drafted Clinton Portis. Everyone was amazed because he already had Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson with Terrel Davis coming off the injury.

Just think where the Portland Trailblazers would be in the history book had they drafted Michael Jordan eventhough they had Clyde Drexler at the time with the number two pick instead of Sam Bowie.

Sometimes the best available athlete is the best move.

"The Boston Red Sox will win the American league east barring injuries."

Surely, you are so due to get a prediction correct just based on your recent football prognostication.

take care, silver

By Silver on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:23 pm:  Edit

Porker,

I agree with you on the moving Jeter to second idea. Although fundamentally sound. He is just slightly above-average defensively. Why waste a guy with more range and a stronger arm in a smaller confined area. Plus moving Jeter to second will make their friendship bond more with having them teamed up on the double play for years to come.

Whereas, (imho) having them play side by side on the same side of the infield might cause some friction with regards to taking charge and deferring on balls hit in the surrounding area.

Eventhough the second baseman is right next to the shortstop. There is an imaginary wall more so then between short and third.

take care, silver

By Lancer on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 05:02 am:  Edit

Silver,

Teams don't win without adequate pitching period. Unless the Yankees get a couple more quality starters and strengthen their bullpen they will be hard pressed to get into the playoffs let alone win the series even with Arod.

The Yankees don't need anymore offensive pop in their lineup and would have been better served in making deals to address their glaring weaknesses. Not doing so will more than likely spell their doom.

As far as my prognostication for the super bowl, the Patriots won but did not cover the spread as I thought they would with ease. I was mistaken!

In making sports prognostications I enjoy putting lots of icing on my cupcakes much like you do regarding your activities in the zona norte. So I'm sure you can relate to this indulgence of mine.

Lancer

By Lancer on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:16 pm:  Edit

The opening day starting rotation for the Yankees:

Vazquez (A great acquisition/this kid can pitch)
Mussina (A proven performer/except when I bet on him)
Kevin Brown (Injury prone veteran/best days way behind him)
Jon Lieber (Hasn't pitched in two years due to major reconstructive surgery/Lots of questions marks here)
Contreras (Few major league starts/From what I've seen he is no Duque Hernandez more like barney fife)

Lots of rumors that the Yankees want Maddux but that the Cubs might end up signing him. We'll see. Maddux' ERA was up there last year. His presence might add some emotional stability to the pitching staff with the departure of Clemens and Pettite.

I enjoy sipping beer and watching baseball in between sessions and how nice it is that the Caliente sportsbook is so near our loved ones in the Callejon.

Health and Peace,
Lancer

By Happyboy on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:08 pm:  Edit

lancer, looks like the Cubbis finally got their man... Maddux looks like he will finish his career with the cubs, 3 years , 24 million dollars... His e r a was up a bit last year, but he had a great second half ( i believe he was around the 2.5 range in era ).. Cubs rotation of Wood, Prior, Zambrano and Clement (this group went 56-40 with a 3.20 era) and now maddux is really tough.. The 4 time Cy Young winner will be a valuable mentor to this young staff (maybe he can teach kerry wood how to limit his pitch count)..

By Lancer on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 04:10 am:  Edit

Happyboy,

Total agreement here. Maddux sandwiched around some of those Cub power pitchers is a match made in heaven. He could serve as a mentor to all of those young pichers. Perhaps we can have a Cub Red Sox series this Autumn. I can dream anyway.

Cheers Lancer

By Happyboy on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:28 pm:  Edit

i would love to see that lancer... rumors were that the yanks offered Maddux more money than the cubs, but he wanted to play in the NL... I forgot that Leiber was pitching for the yankees.. if he can return to his 2001 form, then the yanks have a good shot repeating as AL champs....

By Milkman on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 07:07 pm:  Edit

ANy preditions this year?

Too bad for the Tigers thats a tuff break losing one of your key players when you are on a winning streak like they are :-(

Mets look great today but will the Fillies flop again? If the Fillies fall like last year we may see a division that is very very close with all the teams hovering around .500. Atlanta lost too much in the offseason to lead again.

Padres look real good and retooled at the right time. They may be the best team in the National league West.

Angels look berry good and if they have no injuries may win more games than the Yankees this year.

Ok Bo Sox or Yankees ? I tink the Sox have the better team this year and will lead thier division. The big O's could surprise a lot of people too.


Houston is deep as well but Clems and Pettite must be classic in order for them to win and perhaps could go into the WS to phace the Sox :-)

Butt The biggest question of the year is who will Ricky play for after he sign with the Newark Bears??? :-)

By Erip on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 10:39 pm:  Edit

I predict that the team that wins the National League West will go 80-82.

By Farsider on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 10:57 pm:  Edit

I do this every year, and last year I picked the Cardinals to win the World Series, I think. So take this with a grain of salt.

NL EAST

1) Phillies: I correctly predicted that my boys wouldn't win last year. But this year, no stopping 'em.
2) Marlins: I don't think they'll fall off that much. Great young pitching keeps them a threat.
3) Braves: This is the year the fall occurs.
4) Mets: They'll show improvement. They need to dump both Piazza and Roger Cedeno.
5) Expos: Oh, how they're gonna suck. Move them out of Montreal, already.

NL CENTRAL

1) Cubs: I think they'll win this division. But I don't think they deserve to be World Series favorites like everyone else seems to. And if Prior's out for a while, look out.
2) Astros: We'll see how Clemens and Pettitte handle pitching in this park.
3) Cardinals: Great lineup, lousy pitching equals third place. If a couple of pitchers step up, they could challenge.
4) Reds: I was tempted to tab them as a surprise team, but their pitching scares me. Look for Griffey Jr. to bounce back.
5) Brewers: Don't know what it will take for them to get better.
6) Pirates: Pittsburgh is a great sports town, and deserves a better team than this bunch of scrubs.

NL WEST

1) Padres: Yep... I think they can take this weak division.
2) D-backs: The Unit may be washed up, but Sexson gives their lineup a whole new look.
3) Giants: Bonds can only do so much.
4) Dodgers: Overrated starting pitching and a lousy lineup.
5) Rockies: This year, they won't even be able to win at home.

AL EAST

1) Blue Jays: Say what? Yanks and Bosox are so worried about each other, watch the Jays slip right past them.
2) Yankees: Too many egos, and it will cost them. Hopefully, they'll figure out that A-Rod needs to be at shortstop.
3) Red Sox: Pedro looks fragile. Most everyone in their lineup had career years last year. Won't happen again.
4) Orioles: Impressive additions to lineup, but lousy pitching.
5) Devil Rays: They'll show improvement, and may bust out as a contender in '05.

AL CENTRAL

1) Royals: They'll win this division with barely a .500 record.
2) Twins: Too many key players lost in the off-season.
3) White Sox: A talented team, but full of head cases.
4) Indians: Still rebuilding, but here's another team to watch in '05.
5) Tigers: They'll be better this year. They couldn't be any worse.

AL WEST

1) Angels: If their new additions gel, they'll be tough to beat.
2) Mariners: Somehow, they find a way to contend every year.
3) A's: This is the year that offseason losses doom them, and they'll be at .500 or lower.
4) Rangers: Okay, they got rid of A-Rod. But this won't be the year that they start to improve.

NL Division series: Phils over Padres, Marlins over Cubs

NL Championship series: Phils over Marlins

AL Division series: Angels over Royals, Mariners over Blue Jays

AL Championship series: Angels over Mariners

World Series: Phils over Angels

By Lancer on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:28 am:  Edit

Gee, Arod went 1 for 17 against the Bosox last weekend. Tonight in spite of getting two hits he was booed in the Bronx. Contreras was shelled again and up next Kevin Brown who has three wins against the Devil Rays. We'll see how this over the hill geezer does against the Bosox tomorrow.

Sheffield dropped an easy fly ball and the donkey (Giambi) isn't hitting. Yeah, this team needs more hitting alright. They will come out of their team slump but w/o pitching they will not be there at the finish.

I remember the great Dodger teams of the '60s with Koufax (the greatest) and Drysdale and Osteen. They were a piss poor offensive team but they were able to win games and world championships.

Go Bosox

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 02:08 am:  Edit

Hola Porker

Exactly when is your so far worthless overpaid Superstarless Arod going to have his buddy and super clutch Derek Jeter
move out of the way and allow him to take over shortstop?

Die hard Yankee fan and
anti overpaid Athletes,
Maximus


Lancer
Thanks as always for now guaranteeing the Bosox will not be 2004 World series champs with your vote of support. :-)

BTW How are you a Denver fan in football and a Bosox fan in baseball?

By Ootie on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 04:31 am:  Edit

Whoever is booing A-Rod because of a slow start is an asshole, a spoiled fan, or a bandwagoner. Probably all of the above.

A Thinks it's ridiculous that there's no salary cap kind of guy,

Ootie (Out-of-Towner)

By Porker on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:18 am:  Edit

Max, re: overpaid athletes: Have you seen Jeter's contract lately? Arod's gonna get a minimum of 3500 hits and 650 HR's unless he dies in a plane crash a la a REAL Yankeee hero, Thurman Munson. He's the greatest SS of all time by a country mile, and dumbasses like you who think Jeter can hold his jock won't be convinced no matter how much evidence is thrown your way.

Speaking of your pet Yankees, how's Bernie Williams looking so far?

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:08 pm:  Edit

Porker

How did you know Thurmon Munson is one of my favorite Yankees of all time?
Thurmon is the only Yankee that actually tried during the Yankees 1976 World series loss to my other favorite team the Cincinnatti Reds.
Why THe Reds? I grew up in the era of the big Red machine and when they had a lot of likeable players.

Jeter is a proven winner and proven clutch player
for my favorite team the YANKEES


ALL THE EVIDENCE I will ever need is
When Arod puts up the numbers and wins games for the YANKEES and puts the YANKEES in the playoffs
and wins a WORLD SERIES ring for the YANKEES
preferably measurable by a walk off HOme run or two ala Jeter.

Bernie is having a tough time but also is a proven CHAMPION as we discussed last year.

By Porker on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:14 pm:  Edit

So Barry Bonds sucks because he's never won, huh? Bernie Williams eats his lunch? Keep hitting the crack pipe.

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:24 pm:  Edit

OOtie

Your post is one of the first you've made that makes no sense at all.

If I boo ARod how does that make me a bandwagon fan? Bandwagon fans are those who jump on board not go against.

I have been rooting for the Yankees since I was 7 and have been with them in good years and maybe bad years. I will never be classified as a bandwagon fan.

How does booing Arod make me a spolied fan?
Arod is being paid tons of money per game and I am just to sit back and appreciate and take his piss poor performance and shitty retrun on my overpriced ticket which he caused?

If I boo Arod how does it make me an asshole?
Once again if a guy is paid huge sums of money and has a direct financial impact on my life then I am clearly in the right to expect something of value returned and in no shape way or form am I being unreasonable

The only spoiled people and or assholes
are the overpaid Athletes

There are some pitchers that are getting $8,000,00 and more to go 1-18.
Exaggeration but you get my point
Starters are paid millions to bat a measley .200
with bullshit juiced bats and balls.
Salaries are long out of hand even for the shitty players while true abilty and performance is way down.

Sitting on the bench you get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for never even playing

Sports salaries and ballpark ticket and concession prices are just plain ludicrous.

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:37 pm:  Edit

Porker

I never said Barry Bonds sucks
As a matter of fact
I would love to have him on the Yankees instead of Arod.
I think he would still be a good home run hitter without the enhanced body, juiced up bat and balls but unfortunately we will never know what his true numbers would have been

I said the ONLY EVIDENCE I CARE ABOUT is that which is benificial to my team

I can give a crap about past performance on other teams

All I care about is what Arod is doing in return for my overpriced hot dog and ticket.

My statements are very clear

BTW I don't do drugs and never will

By Lancer on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 02:35 pm:  Edit

Perhaps A-Rod needs a limmo to carry his overpaid ass to the dugout after each inning. Then maybe Joe Torre can peal some grapes and shave the fuzz off of some peaches for the overpriced primadonna.

He had two hits in a losing cause today so he looks as if he is coming out of his slump. The sucking sound will be when he extracts his cabeza totally out of his culo-rod. It won't matter though as the Yankees have inferior pitching and pitching wins championships.

As far as my handicapping goes Maximus, I can out handicap your ass any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 02:59 pm:  Edit

Lancer

ROTFLMAO!


Great!

OK great one
Give me some winning picks for today and twice tommorrow (Sunday)
as I always appreciate free money

This is one case where past performance does count
and I will gladly post all my bets made through Sportsbook.com

Where I am a lifetime winner.

This is a baseball thread but
BTW I won on the Superbowl did you?
and I won on the Denver game in which you publicly guaranteed victory by Denver.

Oh yeah THEY LOST!

I am not the one guaranteeing anything.

I don't bet until the last minute making sure to take in all factors including seeing if the books have an opinion. Silver taught me to do that.

If you are going to make a public prediction and then lose,

You are going to have to be man enough to take the ribbing that goes along with it.

Oh yeah that's right I forgot you are one of those that responded to my broad statement about gift giving to chicas.

I forgot you were one of
those that falls in love with imaginary girlfriends in the zona and always goes bearing gifts.

I apologize for hurting your fragile pysche.
I will try to be more sensitive next time.

By Ootie on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 03:11 pm:  Edit

Max, I don't want to get into an Internet argument because nobody can win such a discussion. So I'll just repeat what I wrote before: whoever is booing A-Rod because of a slow start is an asshole.

The guy is well regarded as one of the best players in baseball, so just because he performs sub-par for a few games it's okay to boo him? That makes such a fan an asshole in my book.

And also a spoiled one. You can't expect ANY player to perform in a top notch manner all the time.

And finally, the odds are in favor of such a fan being a bandwagoner because it's common knowledge here on the East Coast that most of the current Yankee fans got on board in the mid-1990's when the Yankees got good again. Not all of them, but most of them.

So let's see, you're saying that my post was the first one that didn't make sense? What's more likely, that all of my posts make sense or all of them don't make sense? I vote for the former because a person doesn't suddenly develop a case of nonsense out of the blue.

A Still says there should be a salary cap in baseball kind of guy,

Ootie (Out-of-Towner)

By Maximus743 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 03:44 pm:  Edit

Yes OOtie
I was implying I always enjoyed your thoughtful posts but this one did not and still does not make sense to me a die hard Yankee fan who is not pleased with Arod's unwarranted salary and
unacceptable performance

If you command that salary and cause financial pain to millions, you better produce the minute you put on the PINSTRIPES. It's the nature of the beast.

Also I disagree with the bandwagon concept on the EaST coast
NEW YORK and BOSTON have always been huge sports towns
LA IS a bandwagon town
Why do you think we no longer have pro football in one of the biggest media markets in the US?

You never see Yankee fans arriving in the fifth inning and leaving in the 7th inning even when they sucked.

I grew up on the EAST coast and most everyone was either a die hard Yankee or Met fan even when they both sucked.

By Lancer on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 02:09 am:  Edit

Gluteus Maximus,

Baseball is my strongest sport and I pick more winners than losers or else I would not put money down a rathole.

The football playoffs last year was not my shining moment and I have already admitted that in a prior post. I picked the Patriots on a future which with their victory gave me a modest win.

I admit to being generous and I do have some real affection for some of these girls. Guilty as charged. I have given some humble low cost gifts (cds etc.)I do not believe that they are my girlfriends however in spite of this fabrication in the windmills of your mind. I have introduced others to my favorites over the two years of my pilgrimages to the 'holy city'. I have shared.

I did fall in love with one down there who has since moved away. This happened very early in my experience in Tijuana. It happens to a lot of guys early on.

After she moved away she called me repeatedly on her own dime. She lived over 2000 miles away at the time and invited me to her hometown. This was a rare and beautiful gesture on her part. One which I took her up on and she was waiting for me as my bus pulled into her hometown. This experience I did not imagine!!!

I am convinced that the hatred that you feel for the chicas is actually hatred that you feel for yourself and I hope one day that you have a spiritual healing for the sake of your own very delicate and tormented psyche. Your friend Silver does not hate these girls and is generous towards them as well. Perhaps you can learn a little human compassion from him as well.

By Milkman on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 03:12 pm:  Edit

Same Met's team
Gweat pitching no hitting :-(

Go Mets !

By Maximus743 on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 07:36 am:  Edit

Lancer
First baseball since this is a baseball thread

I asked for some winning picks yesterday and twice on Sunday

I received none

You would have won as although I was 4-2 on a six teamer I lost and I lost on my fucking YAnkees as they stranded runners in scoring position and one bad pitch cost them the game.
Even Clutch Jeter choked with 2nd and 3d.

I did easily break even for the day by winning San Antonio first half.

Now for the other crap,
Ok I tried
but this time I can't be sensitive
I will use mi amigo's favorite line

"ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?"

LOL

Pick up a psych 101 book
A person who hates women would beat and kill them not hang out with, have many as personal friends and pay them money to fuck them

I do not hate the chicas at all. I have strong feelings for several of them.

Please at least show some sort of an attempt to act intelligent and don't just respond emotionally.

Yawn

I will keep my opinions of mi amigo Silver's operating procedure between him and me.

Lastly
Exactly how many volunteer organizations for the sick and the poor do you volunteer your time for?
THat's what I thought.

I am an extremely compassionate human being and have a high moral fiber. Just ask Silver about many of our discussions and my defense of some of the chicas. And about my two and half hours of my time I invested to verbally back him up in another situation
I am regularly volunteering my time and money to help the sick and the poor, the people who really need it.

You crack me up with your totally off base commnets


By Milkman on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 11:33 am:  Edit

Silver is prety tuff

How are the Yanks doing compared to Texas?

The Yankees will bounce back or perhaps will bekum the 91 Mets.

The Yankees for as much money as they are spending should be like 130-32 every year.
If they win under 100 games this year they will be the laffing stock of the league.
180 mill for what?

And I am not a Yankee hater but something is wrong. Whats Donnie baseball doing wrong?

Go Mets?

By Maximus743 on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 05:39 pm:  Edit

"180 mill for what? "

Exactly my point to those who said AROD is worth it.

NO PRO ATHLETE IS WORTH THIS MUCH MONEY!

By Porker on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 01:52 am:  Edit

Yeah, one of the top 5 beisbol players in history is overpaid, but somehow Jeter's NOT at a 'mere 100 million'? Max, are you SURE you don't do drugs? I'm trying to give you credit for having a brain bigger than my cat's.

By Maximus743 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 03:21 am:  Edit

Hola Porker,

Nope no drugs

and yep my Brain is working quite well
How about yours?

and I never said Jeter was not over paid

What part of NO ATHLETE is worth this kind of money did you not understand?

And at least Jeter has produced tangible measurable World Series Championship results.

By Porker on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 04:39 am:  Edit

So has Rick Fox and Robert Horry. Let's put them in the Hall of Fame and give them 100 million dollar contracts too.

By Milkman on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 09:13 am:  Edit

I love Rick Fox he is a tuff guy like myself but a little better looking :-(

Again do you think the Yankees have a chance to finish in the basement? Would the Boss have a cardiac? 91 Mets? Chemistry is everything and I don't know about this years team.

By Maximus743 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 02:54 pm:  Edit

Porker

Of course not. don't give them or anyone that much money


Milky
The Yankees will not finish in the basement this year or ever in our lifetime as long as George is the owner

He just won't let it happen.

By Gregorio on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 06:00 am:  Edit

Cardinals sign Canada's greatest player!!!

Will any team be able to survive LaRussa's offensive juggernaut?

Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen and now Walker YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS...

By Porker on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 05:10 pm:  Edit

No better than the middle of the Braves lineup last season and they were bounced rather easily from the playoffs. If Prior and Wood are completely healthy/hot again, and the Cubs actually make the post-season, they've gotta be the favorites.

By Porker on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

Maddux gets #300. What an amazing pitcher, a guy as dominant as any pitcher ever who NEVER threw particularly hard. The numbers that guys like he, Clemens, Pedro and the Big Ugly have put up in an era of big-time offense makes them the greatest group ever, IMO.

By Explorer8939 on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 05:30 pm:  Edit

Koufax. Drysdale. Marichal. Gibson.

Need I say more?

By Porker on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 05:50 pm:  Edit

"The numbers that guys like he, Clemens, Pedro and the Big Ugly have put up IN AN ERA OF BIG-TIME OFFENSE makes them the greatest group ever, IMO."

The guys you named pitched in the greatest dead ball era ever with an elevated pitching mound. And they still weren't all that good. Drysdale couldn't carry even Tom Glavine's jock.