Tell Grandma Busch to get the Clydesdales ready, cause we're pulling the beer wagon to Boston baby...

Bullitt,

Here's a better question for the NY Yankees and their fans:

Who's Your Caddy?

I'm willing to bet that CH Superman is on suicide watch. The combination of the Yankee's incredible and historic choke and Clemens' loss (his idol) in Game 7 has to be too much for any fan to swallow.

BTW, I'm rooting for the Red Sox because I personally know how rough it is to root for a team for a long time without winning a championship (as in the NY Rangers).

A Can't ever remember having enjoyed a sporting event as much as the NY-Boston series kind of guy,

Ootie

The Red Sox are gonna get a "Woody" tonite, only not the good kind...

Like I predicted, Woody was not very good LOL..

Ok, I see the Cards losing tonite, go down 2-0. Back to St. Louis for a three-game sweep, then back to Beantown for a split.

I could LIVE with that. The alternative is something I would rather not contemplate at this juncture.

Gregory I agree Cards will go down tonight then I will put big money on them to win the 3rd game
Series will go 7

Yep, the series has seven-gamer written all over it.

We'll see how Schilling looks tonight. Weather in Boston looks cold and raw.

Scott Rolen plays a pretty damned amazing 3B. The best I've ever seen. He can hit a little too.

I'm sure 40 of you old farts will tell me that he couldn't carry Brooks Robinson's jock. And I'm sure you enjoyed your first black and white TV a lot more than the plasma sets now too.

He's as good as anyone I've ever seen at third. I only saw Brooks Robinson near the end of his career, so I'm not qualified to make that comparison.

It's tough, as a Phillies fan, to watch Rolen making those plays at third in the World Series. And Schilling on the mound for the Bosox, and Francona in the dugout.

Where do you put Ortiz (the dominican mo vaughn)when they go to St L? That guy has time and time again won games for Boston. It has to be a tremendous advantage for the national league over the american league at world series time. If any knows, since i am a lazy ass, what is the record of american vs national since the american league took on the dh rule?

Bullit I would put him at SS, -lol
Just kidding. He will go in the outfield or first base. I hate the DH rule it sucks and makes for boring baseball. I love the National League and will always watch a NL game over a AL game anyday.
I am putting some pesos on the Cards tomorrow and want the Sox in 7 although they might take it in 6

Ortiz will play first, probably not too well. Millar goes to the bench. It will be fun watching Pedro up at the plate taking hacks tomorrow night. An edge for the Cards, and they sure need one.

I agree... give me National League baseball any day.

since 1972, (i think that is when DH went into effect) its AL 18-13 over the NL... the As won three straight (72-74) and of course yanks won four out of five (96, 98-00) .. so no real advantage with the DH.. ortiz played 34 games at 1B this year, committed four errors... I would probably think if the red sox had a lead late in the 8th and 9th, you will see Miekenwitz come in for defensive replacement..

Hmm, so you guys LIKE watching pitchers flail away at the plate? Gimme the BOMBERS, baby! John Kruk might still be playing if he was smart enough to tryb the A.L.!

And re: 'possible' BoSox defensive replacements at 1B in the late innings with a lead, it would be complete negligence if Francona wasn't grilled about the Buckner/Pedro postseason fiascos prior to being hired. I don't think he'll make such obvious blunders. However, with the Red Sox the opportunity for a massive collapse at the ultimate WRONG DAMNED TIME should probably be exPECTED?

Re: the Red Sox winning this series, I think this is pretty close to a must win. As bad as Cardinals pitching generally is, after Pedro and Schilling and Lowe, there's a whole LOTTA slop behind them. Not to say the Red Sox won't have good chances to out-bomb St. Louis, but they certainly shouldn't step on their throats by any means -- something they SHOULD do to prevent the mighty CHOKE MONKEY from making beisbol 20X harder to play.

It's not so much watching pitchers trying to hit... it's the additional managerial strategy, pinch-hitters, double switches, etc. There's much more opportunity to second-guess managerial decisions in the NL.

BTW...Kruk did play one season in the AL, his last in the bigs, for the White Sox.

I forget who said it, and the exact phraseology, but there was once a classic quote about how 'complicated' the ol' double switch was -- something along the lines of 'are you SHITTING ME'? It sure does entertain the Tim McCarver (my ultimate 'mute button' announcer) types, though. YAWN.

I have to give McCarver credit for one thing, though, and so should fans of Colombia.

He actually pronounced "Cartagena" and "Barranquilla" correctly during tonight's game.

red sox up 3-0 now... cardinal running blunders again. sending walker from 3B on a shallow hit fly to ramirez in the 1st?? then suppan , getting caught up at 3rd base with NOBODY OUT, ball hit to the 1B side?? Suppan said he heard NO NO, instead of GO GO.. what a joke...
if the cards want to win game 4..THEY MUST>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Have womack suck it up and hit leadoff..
Jump to an early lead by manufacturing runs and BUNT THE BALL TO ORTIZ....
Have the card pitchers throw strikes, let the card infield make the outs...
boy it really looks like the loss of carpenter and kline for the playoff games, plus the loss of womack leading off put st louis in a deep hole..

I don't know about "Superman" but the Fucking Red Sox devasted me financially and emotionally
the only game I bet on,
game 7 I lost half of my account then I lost just about the other half betting against the Sox all week now I have $70.95 left in my account
and a whole half football season left.

A friend of mine was telling me how great Rollen Pujols Edmonds are ( I did not follow the Cards or NL all year) and all I've seen is jack shit and my money out the window and me getting pissed as hell especially how the Sox are getting alot of luck as well

Edmonds was called out on an inside pitch with bases loaded that was not even close to being a strike that was a key at bat

then tonight sending Walker From third on a short fly who isn't even fast enough to catch an easy fly over his head was stupid

then the play with Suppan was the most incredible dumbass game over move I 've ever seen
I turned the tV off after the Sox went up 4-0 but caught the highlights

after losing 7 straight bets i did not want to break any more computers or anything

two of the seven bets were on football
the suck ass seahawks getting blown out by the Cardinals in the first half and then my suck ass Raiders getting blown out by the Saints second half

anyway aside from the ncaa this year which i didnt belong betting on I never lost 7 straight sports bets in my entire life.


I need major luck change

I wish I had some money left in my bank account as I would bet it all on the Sox just so they would lose a friggin game tommorrow night


All I can say is

MILKTUFF you
must be riding high right now and must be in such a good mood with the SOX and PATS which explains why you are being such a nice guy chatting with / hanging out with so many PLMs\

What would be great for sports fans is if we could see two miracles in the span of two weeks by seeing the Cards do the statistically improbable and do to the sox what the Sox did to the Yankees

Wouldn't that be exciting to see the Cards come back and win this world Series

Maximum, we will have to start calling you "Minimus".

The Fucking Cardinals SUCK!

What a pathetic World Series

The Cardinals were supposedly the best team in Baseball?

A team with such explosive offense?

Apparently not.

At least the frickin Yankees made the games close except for game 7

What I learned is never bet on a team you don't give a shit about just becuase you hate the other team.

Also never listen to the fucking Idiot announcers

THEY ALL said the Yankess had virtually locked it up after game 3, I said OH shit they just fucked the Yankees

Then they kept hyping what an explosive team St Louis was and how they were the best team in baseball

The Cardinals got their asses handed to them and the supposed super millionaires Walker Puljos Edmonds
Rollen were an absolute pathetic display of offensive talent

Just fucking sickening.

And Jim Buck just jinxed the Sox by saying this can very well be the begining of the Golden Age of the Red sox

Highly doubt it.

As I said above whenever the announcers make these kinds of comments the opposite seems to happen

That would be OK by me but
the scar of the pure fact that the Red Sox finally won and made History and against my Yankees can never be forgotten

Yankees may have choked but the Cardinals are just Pathetic.

First off let me just say congrats to the Boston Red Sox and their fans. I've been a Yankee fan my whole life and am originally from New York. I think to understand the intensity of the NY-Bos rivalry you'd have to have grown up in New England. I have never had any respect for this team and have continuously over the years put them down. Not this year. After coming back on the Yankees to win the ALCS after being down 3 games to 0 is incredible and probably the best comeback i have ever seen in sports. I watched the world series this yr. hoping Boston would finally win and they crushed St. Louis. They clearly were the best team in baseball. Again congratulations Red Sox fans.

Manny is married to a brasileira. I wonder how they hooked up?

As Triumph the Insult Dog would say "Thees ees a great World Series--FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!"

Maximus, sad to say, but I gotta echo your sentiments. I am a lifelong Cardinal fan and this one hurt bad, real bad. What a terrible, stinking letdown for the great fans of St. Louis.

Cards used to be proud, frequent World Series winners, now they've lost three in a row. Maybe they got a curse now.

I was so despondent, I almost bought a ticket to AC LOL....

For Porker and Silver


This Week's TWiB Mailbag (An internet blogger site)
The question was posted in last week's TWiB: If you were creating a team, would you rather start w/ Jeter or A-Rod? The response was overwhelming in Jeter's favor, two times as many comments coming in his favor rather than Alex's.


But guess what The Yankees have both of them and Jeter is still playing SS.
I can't wait to seek revenge on the bullshitsox this year.


(Message edited by maximus743 on February 28, 2005)

So I guess that site's readers must be really smart, huh?

They should have a disclaimer: "We polled 1000 morons that have the same reading tastes as CH's resident genius Maximus, and these were the results".

Comparing Jeter to Arod, Jeter hits like a little girl. Arod will end up with 3500 hits and 700 home runs. Minimum. Arod, not Jeter, was the gold glove SS the year before the Yankees decided Arod was the superior athlete and better able to make the switch to another position. They also didn't want to hurt Jeter's wittle feelings.

You can start your team with whoever the hell you want. I'll take the greatest SS in the history of the game over Derek Jeter a million times over.

(Message edited by porker on February 28, 2005)

A third baseman is going to go down in history as the greatest SS ever in the game?

I doubt it.

Jeter hits like a little girl huh?

I guess more little girls should be playing pro baseball since Jeter who hits like a little girl is a Rookie of the year, an All Star SS , a All Star game MVP and a World Series MVP and three time World Series Champion. What does that say about the rest of the players in the league?

Yep, your comment was ridiculous.
But hey, I enjoy reading it.

I think he said compared to arod...

Just about everyone compared to arod hits like a girlie...

wow I rung in my 1000 post with that one

I doubt that anyone thinks of Ernie Banks, Robin Yount or Cal Ripken as anything but shortstops. I doubt anyone thinks of Johnny Bench as a 3B. It ain't Arod's fault that Jeter's a huge selfish pussy that wouldn't switch positions despite ample evidence that he couldn't carry Arod's jock as a defensive SS.

And yeah, 57 homers and SEVEN 40+ home run seasons compared to Jeter's career high in the low 20's (that he hasn't reached in YEARS... Gee, did he stop juicing? Peak at 23?) means COMPARED TO AROD JETER HITS LIKE A LITTLE GIRL. Arod will hit over 400 more HR's in his career than Jeter. That's like the difference between Jose Canseco and YOU, Maximus!

Derek Jeter is a fine player. Derek Jeter is NOTHING compared to Arod.

As I stated (a million posts ago) when the Yankees signed Arod they would have been better served to go after better pitching. It cost them bigtime.

Where was Arod in games 5,6,and seven. Arod had his head stuck up his assrod. Jeter is a proven performer and hero in big games and Arod was a no show. Greatness is coming up big in big games and Arod and Barry Bonds are proven stiffs when the pressure is on.

What is Barry Bonds going to do without his steroids now? His home run records are artificial and bogus. He is the epitome of the spoiled and over paid modern day athlete. All shadow and no substance.

And the 7 MVP awards Bonds won? What do steroids have to do with a .600 OBP? Are you paying attention? A SIX HUNDRED OBP??? Cartoon numbers that make every other player that ever played the game look like a loser.

You keep stupidly beating the drum of the 'big game' argument. Yes, apparently in your book the likes of Adam "Big Game" Kennedy eat Arod and Bonds' lunch...

Again, you don't have to LIKE those guys, but diminishing their OBVIOUS greatness? Fucking retarded.

DM
Congrats on your 1,000 !!!

Too bad it had to be in a post about baseball and not about fucking some hot little spinner.

Bonds is obviously GREAT at choking in big-game situations, and putting up BIG numbers when nothing is on the line. If he had ONE world series ring, I may give hime SOME due. Until then, I gotta agree with Lancer. Fuck Bonds and all things Bonds. Viva Canseco!!!

mcgwire....Guilty
Sosa....Guilty
Bonds..ASSHOLE/Guilty
Canseco...ASSHOLE/but the only one close to telling the truth

I'm four for four and battin a thousand!!!

What do steroids have to do with a .600 OBP?

If you have to ask that question you are a fucking idiot. Performance enhancing drugs are self explanatory except for guys who are homo for Bonds.

The only fantasy league you want to be in is when your hero Barry 'the choker' Bonds steps into a bj bar on Santos and he picks you to go to the back room.

Too bad you never saw the great ones play. Bonds couldn't hold Willie Mays' jockstrap.

Again 'great athletes come up big in big games'. Bonds and Arod are CHOKERSSSSSSSSS in big game situations.

(Message edited by lancer on March 27, 2005)

Porker, if you batted 100 times and walked 30 times, you'd have a .300 on base percentage. LOL...Sorry, you threw me a medium-speed fastball right down the middle...

Lancer, now that Bonds is "down" let's keep piling on. What a friggin jerk that dude is. Mark my words, that shameless mofo will be back however.

The Yankees opened up the season with a good ole pounding of the Boston Fag Sox.

I still am suspicious of the Red Sox run last year.

One thing is for sure it was a total fluke as many have said and won't happen again.

This is the Yankees year to be World Champions again.

Matsui as per usual came up with the big play to stifle any sox momentum and then add to the assault with the first homer of the season.

Arod tonight so far (in 4 innings): 3 AB's, 3 HR's, NINE RBI! A 2-run shot, then a 3-run shot and now the grand salami. All of Bartolo Colon, who will be seeing this guy in his nightmares for YEARS! Not a bad 4 innings worth of work!

Damn, the little wimp only hit a single this time and only drove in one run. 10 RBI through 6 innings.

Too bad Arod didn't save some of that for the seventh game against the Red Sox last year.

Arod was meek and mild in the big games against the Red Sox. The big games being games 4,5,6,&7.

Anyone who thinks that Barry Bonds has more power than Mickey Mantle is using a potent crack pipe. Mantle, by the way, came up big in big games.

Check out Barry Bonds stats when he was a pirate in post season play. Oh yeah, he might not have used steroids in those days. If Sandy Koufax faced Bonds in the biggest at bat in his life Bonds would not have even filed off a pitch. Koufax didn't fuck around.

Nice to see overpaid Arod finally do something for the millions he is being paid.

Yeah, if Mantle wasn't a broken down drunk who knows what kind of numbers he would've put up.

Max, just curious-- how do you go about the valuation process? As over/under are relative to their peers, please explain... or are you just a babbling fool?

LOL
DM
I am never a babling fool. Only state facts.

Additionally
I am a die hard Yankee Fan and get to say anything I want about my players that I am supporting with my fan dollars.

However, I evaluate Players on their ability to come up big in big games LIKE JETER DOES OFTEN.

I evaluate them on the money being paid per game vs their output for that game.

But as I said, what they do to help get their team into the playoffs and what they do once there is a very critical evaluation for high paid players.

Arod did not do much at all to help the Yankees vs your Sox.

"I am a die hard Yankee Fan and get to say anything I want about my players that I am supporting with my fan dollars."



Comment-- u got me there. I'll take him any day and gladly pay him on my team.

Re: your comments on pay vs. performance, any stats to back that up from a decent source?

Source: http://www.baseball-reference.com/

AROD Mathematical Ratings:
Black Ink: Batting - 40 (36) (Average HOFer ~27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 136 (116) (Average HOFer ~144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 54.1 (50) (Average HOFer ~50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 211.5 (33) (Likely HOFer >100)

Overall Normalized All-time Ranking in parentheses.


Jeter:
Black Ink: Batting - 6 (319) (Average HOFer ~27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 81 (284) (Average HOFer ~144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 42.9 (117) (Average HOFer ~50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 132.0 (94) (Likely HOFer > 100)
Overall Rank in parentheses.



U say the 2004 ALCS?

Here's Jeter's payoff stats vs sox :
.200 .333 .233 (ba, obp, and slg)

Here's AROD:
.258 .378 .516


Ok now, let's talk fact. AROD is a top 50 all time player. Jeter-- perhaps in the top 200. In the playoffs AROD outhit Jeter by a decent margin, although neither had a steller series by any stretch. So if your saying AROD isn't worth his 22mil, how do you rationize a man with a fraction of his talent and putting up a shadow of his #s making 18 or so mil?

Now I remember why I fucking hate baseball !!!

DM, owe you MANY beers for that one! CLASSIC!

Any chance he actually GETS THE POINT, though? Uhmmm...

BTW, where'd Arod rank among SS/3B in those rankings? I think I already know the answer.

KM, following them Swiss hawkey playoffs?

Porker
Watching competetive darts is just about as exciting as discussing fantasy baseball stats.

If I could watch the Swiss Hockey playoffs I would -- fer shuure !!

KM, you just gotta be like DM and Maximus and pick a new favorite team! 100 years of NADA in the big cheese department would make ANYBODY choose 'On Frozen Pond'!

DM

I rationalize Jeter cash by all the times in the past he has come up big.

Arod still owes us Yankee fans some big results in the playoffs, that is why we got him last year. To help ensure that we would pound the Sox and be World Series Champions.

The Sox series was Jeter's worst. Check your site on Jeter's stats in all the other playoff series and let us know.

Porker
I still like Jeter much more than Arod and choose him over Arod.

Jeter has long ago won the hearts of some of the toughest fans in baseball. Arod has not. He needs to pony up with something big like the Angel game the other night.

An MVP title would be a worthwhile contribution.