I'll take the Rams -14 and OVER 53.5. I see it being a close game at the half, with the Rams pulling away after the intermission.

Tiebreaker: Rams 41, Pats 24.

Ootie: I'd like to make a suggestion that you might need another tie-breaker or two as the method you've proposed could still result in a tie even with two distinctly opposite predictions.

In the event of say a final of Rams 31 Pats 21, you and Athos would still be tied. Or Rams 42, Pats 15, Bullitt and Conejo would still be tied.

I'd suggest that the second tie-breaker be closest to actual final point spread of the game. If still tied, which ever prediction did not go over on the point spread differential is the winner (Sorry Athos and Bullitt).

I'd be willing to compile stats on the props contest if we can get at least 5 guys willing to participate. Since I'm headed to a Super Bowl party, I'll be in no shape to want to add and analyze that night. So no results until I check the games summaries on Monday.

In order to avoid ties, lets make one of the props a best bet and make it worth 2 points with the rest worth 1 point.

Again here's my Super Bowl stuff:

Rams -14
Under 53.5
Final Score 28-10

This was the Caliente line last night at 11pm. I made a $50 parlay.


Here's my props picks in the event there is a contest:

Warner's Passing yards Under 282.5

Marshall Faulk total yards (rushing/receiving) Over 152.5 (my BestBet pick)

Antwoin Smith Over 63.5 rushing yards

Rams Tight End Conwell Under 27.5 receiving yards

Patriots tight end Jermaine Wiggins and fullback Marc Edwards combined Over 27 ½ receiving yards.

Patriots combined-receiving-yards for Brown and David Patten Under 144.5

Rams combined receiving yards for Bruce and Holt: Under 148.5 yards.

Tie breaker: make one of the props a best bet for an extra point.

Second tie-breaker: Best Super Bowl commercial featuring anyone other than Brittney Spears

Third tie-breaker: Automatic Victory to anyone that can produce photographic evidence to clearly establish her correct bra size.

In case of tie, I hereby apply for Automatic Victory by virtue of the following:

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/poptoons/britneys_breasts.asp

JC
It's the first time I see you go with the favorite. Am I missing a good opportunity? It's too cold for me down there this week.

Athos: What do you mean it's the first time seeing me go with the favorite? I picked 3 of 4 faves the first wild-card weekend also had the correct dawg. True, I have gone with many under-dawgs in the course of the season...Maybe it's my Cleveland upbringing and the DawgPound.

Why the favorite this week? You know where the Rams played before moving to LA, don't you?

Truth be known, I went against the commissioner again this week, except for the over/under.

Too cold in TJ this week? Did I mention I grew up in the city AKA the Mistake on the Lake? Last night in the zona felt like a warm summer nite in Ohio, albeit one without the 90% humidity.

All you need is an hour in the room with a Mexican hottie and you'll be praying for a walk outside to cool off. I know cuz that's what I did last night.

I have found it to be a dangerous policy to wager on NFL favorites giving more than 7 points. They do cover, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Orejon
out

We'll follow the additional tie-breaker rules mentioned by Jocannon.

A Commissioner has spoken kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

BD...Wanted to parlay & single with my BA tix budget:

1. Pat (+14) & under.
2. Ram (-14).

My reasons: Rams only beat Titans by a TD 2 yr ago, and they only beat Eagles by 5 last week. Good D seems to give them issues. Just my thoughts. It's 4 hrs b4 I go down for my usually routine so shoot me an "In/Em". Just Emed you. Thanks.

LD

BD...?Donde estas? You must be pounding your new exotic bedwarmer hard. Anyways, I'm gonna go ahead w/ my picks. Shooting for a 3somes tonight. I'm out. Have a good SB weekend. And Yes, same wish to all my friends.

LD

Sorry LD...just got over here and yes I was very busy earlier. Too tired to drive anywhere tonight. Boy am I sleepy.

Actually, if you're still there, keep in mind that my advice is based on gut, not some in-depth wagering strategy by a professional gambling analyst.

Assuming you plan to make equal bets, I really don't like betting against another bet. If you win the parlay, you don't win as much as you would because it's offset by the straight wager.

If you win the straight bet, you still lose a few bucks (the vig).

And you can lose both if the Pats cover and the game goes over.

Just my opinion.

Better to go with one bet or the other.

Of course, best is not to gamble at all.

You're such a winner with the chicas, that you're way ahead even if you drop a few bucks at Caliente.

Knowing you, you'll find a way to turn your menage into a freebie orgy.

Have a good weekend.
BD

I see lots of field goals and a tight game...Pats not getting respect and still underrated...Belichick will go after Warner hot and heavy...What if he goes out?...Belichick will not hestitate to throw in Bledsoe if offense is stalling-- Bledsoe can just about match Warner pass for pass...

Of course, Bledsoe does not have Warner's receivers...

1. St. Louis 26, New England 23
2. Under 53.5

Props:
1. Warner under 282. 5 passing yards
2. Faulk under 152.5 total yards
3. A. Smith over 63. 5 yards
4. Conwell over 27.5 receiving yards (Best Bet)
5. Wiggens/Edwards over 27. 5 receiving yards
6. Brown/Patten over combined 144.5 receiving yards
7. Bruce/Holt under combined 148.5 receiving yards

YoungBrig

Just you and me YB on the props...everybody else is disinterested or in TJ being interested in panocha.

Maybe my lock on the 3rd tiebreaker scared everyone off.

Either way, whoever wins, you or I can at least diss the other's pics until next season.

Summary of football pool:

Athos - Pats and UNDER (Rams 31-22)
Bullitt - Rams and OVER (Rams 47-10)
Conejo - Rams and OVER (Rams 37-20)
Eclipse - Rams and OVER (Rams 52-14)
Farsider - Rams and OVER (Rams 41-24)
Jocannon - Rams and UNDER (Rams 28-10)
Katokay - Pats and UNDER (Pats 31-14)
Ootie - Pats and UNDER (Rams 31-20)
YoungBrig - Pats and UNDER (Rams 26-23)

The tie-breaker for the gold medal quest will be "closest to the final score" (not the weighted best bet points like in previous weeks). My final score: Rams win 31-20. (i.e. if Pats win 27-24, although my total points would be correct, I would be 14 points off). The second tie-breaker is who is the closest to actual final point spread of the game (per Jocannon). If still tied, which ever prediction did not go over on the point spread differential is the winner (per Jocannon).

Here's my props picks:

1. Warner over 282.5 passing yards
2. Faulk over 152.5 total yards
3. A. Smith over 63.5 yards (Best Bet)
4. Conwell over 27.5 receiving yards
5. Wiggens/Edwards over 27.5 receiving yards
6. Brown/Patten under combined 144.5 receiving yards
7. Bruce/Holt over combined 148.5 receiving yards

P.S. Hey Sakebomb, why aren't you posting more often like you used to do? Or are you and Senor Panocha the same guy? Hehe.

A Hoping it's a close exciting game for a change kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

JoCannon:

I've always liked the props...

My thinking on my best bet is that Conwell is going to find some space underneath as Belichick will try and make someone other than the wideouts beat him...I see Belichick trying to force the St.L passing game to the middle of the field where Law and Milloy can play traffic cop...

My thought on your best bet is that if Belichick can develop a plan to shut down the Pitt power rushing game, he should be able to outline a plan that contains Faulk...

Obviously I use "contain" deliberately because Faulk will get his yards-- no question, he is a special back...

I honestly see a competitive matchup tomorrow...

YoungBrig

I AM GOING PAT AND UNDER

Rams -14
Over 53.5
Final Score 41-24

Warner's Passing yards Over 282.5 (Best Bet)

Marshall Faulk total yards (rushing/receiving) Over 152.5

Antwoin Smith Under 63.5 rushing yards

Rams Tight End Conwell Under 27.5 receiving yards

Patriots tight end Jermaine Wiggins and fullback Marc Edwards combined Under 27 ½ receiving yards.

Patriots combined-receiving-yards for Brown and David Patten Under 144.5

Rams combined receiving yards for Bruce and Holt: Over 148.5 yards.

Second tie-breaker: Budweiser What's Up Guys

Third tie-breaker: Thanks for the Britney Spears link Jocannon. I'll go with a Full C but I withhold the right to change after seeing her host SNL tonight.

I'm just up for a good game.

A,B,C,E,or K: how about one of you alphabet guys making some prop pics so that we have a contest...

YB: good thoughts and it's the classic matchup of of Martz, the offensive guru vs. the defensive mind of Billy Bob...boy did I dislike that guy when he coached my beloved Browns...

I think the Steelers run being shut down had more to do with Bettis' condition and Cowher abandoning the run too early in the game.

I look for the Rams to score early to open a nice lead by the half and then put it into Marshall's hand in the second half to ice it. But what do I know? I come from a town that hasn't won anything in any sport since 1964.

T-Bone: C-cup? you must be blind from masterbating so much as a teenager. LOL Did you watch that thing all the way to the end? In the movie stills from last year, she's packing no more than A's. Plenty of tape, wires, wonder-bras, padding, those falsies with the nipples (didn't you hate that when your date to the prom took those damn things out)...she might as well get the boob job that half of America is convinced she's already had. If I'm rambling, keep in mind it's way past my bedtime for this pinche viejo. Yo tengo ochenta y nueve años.

Not a bad pick on the Bud wazzup guys...beats the hell out of those damn frogs but still not up to the level of Michael Jackson's flaming hair Pepsi spot.

I change to a A cup. I was delusional as the last I saw of her was her HBO special.

By the way did anybody see Pamela on Conan last week - that was the best I've ever seen her look.

I bet Pamela didn't look better than the blonde model in the glittery green gown on the 30th anniversary of the Price Is Right the other night. She was smokin'! Bob Barker sure has a way of attracting some excellent lookers (i.e. remember that Diane Parkinson gal who seduced him and then tried to blackmail him?). I whacked off my Plinko while watching her more than once over the years!

A Usually prefers brunettes but some blondes are irresistible kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Last guess on the SuperBowl:

1) I have no idea if New England will beat the spread; BUT

2) I think that the first half will be close, and then St. Louis will pull away, much like the NE-Green Bay game of a few years ago. I think the 4th quarter will largely be desperation time for NE, but it won't be a blowout, something like 31-21, or 38-24, not the 44-10 bashing of NE back in 1986.

The *only* scenario that I can see NE winning (apart from 8 turnovers by the Rams) is if the NE DBs really smack the Ram receivers in the first half, and make them not want to run their routes anymore - that's what the NY Giants did to Buffalo back in 1990, when Bill B. was their defensive coach.

The BESTS of the first half:

Best defensive scheme: Bill B. (former Giant)

Best catch: Patten (former Giant)

Best comment: Pat Summerall (former Giant; do you see a pattern here?): after a camera shot of our troops in Afghanistan requesting that the cheerleaders pay them a visit after the game, Pat said "that's a holesome comment", with the accent on the hole.

Now for the bad news! I had 3-0 in the first quarter in one of those grid pools. But the 3 was with the Pats, so I get nada. The guy who had the Rams 3 Pats 0 won $2500. Damn! I sure could have used that money. And of course, I have no action on my Pats +14 and UNDER selection. *sigh*

An It's only money kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Geez, I would have lost my shirt on this one. I'm shocked at the outcome.

The silence here indicates that some people DID lose their shirts on this one. Not to worry guys, I'll keep your faves warm in TJ until you get back on your feet!

Jocannon, I thought I understood your tie-breakers but now I'm not so sure. We need a ruling from you in BOTH gold medal events.

A May have won two medals even though they may not be gold kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Scratch part of that last post. Congrats to YoungBrig for winning the gold medal in the point spread + over/under competition (not to mention his fine analysis).

Jocannon needs to decide on the silver and bronze between me and Katokay, and also the medals in the props competition.

An It's late in the East kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Yess!!! I win! I win! I win!...Okay, I'm cool...

YoungBrig

Ok - I basically sucked on my picks but I think I'm probably the closest (the only one who did) on the second tie-breaker with my Bud What's Up Guys. I don't think the what's up guys even did a commercial but the best commercial had to be (especially for this board) the one where Cedric the Entertainer was playing the part of Cyrano de Bergerac. He's piping the lines into a buddy who's hitting on a hot chica. The Bud Light comes and he says to the bartender 'How Much' and then his friend asks the chica how much. I think the guy thought he was in CC instead of a regular bar. Congrats to the guys who bet New England and the under.

Felixthecat...why didn't you pick a score? You might have walked off with this thing.

Secondly, congtrats to YB and yes, you were pretty much on the money with your analysis.

Not to put a damper on your bragging rights...I'll still think you're cool if I see you...but here goes...

Actually, with hindsight always having a distinct advantage, I think we screwed up the tie-breaker system. The first tie-breaker should have been whoever had the right team winning which would make Katokay (isn't he the dude that used to live with Nicole then OJ?) the overall winner. Sorry Katokay. We'll try to remember that next year.

Since Ootie and Katokay are each 14 pts. off of the actual point differential, I am arbitrarily awarding silver to Katokay since he (excluding FTC78) was the only one smart enough to believe that the Pats could win it straight up. Did you back up that opinion at Caliente? I don't know what the money line in Vegas was but I imagine it was probably at least four or five to one.

Here's the stats for the props contest:

Warner's Passing yards Over 282.5 (365 actual)

Marshall Faulk total yards (rushing/receiving) Under 152.5 (76rush + 54rec)

Antwoin Smith Over 63.5 rushing yards (92 actual)

Rams Tight End Conwell Under 27.5 receiving yards (8 actual)

Patriots tight end Jermaine Wiggins and fullback Marc Edwards combined Under 27 ½ receiving yards.
(Wiggins-14 + Edwards-7)

Patriots combined-receiving-yards for Brown and David Patten Under 144.5 (Brown-89 David Patten-8)

What a great catch by Patten and super throw by Brady; in my opinion, the play of the game as it was decisive and put the Rams into too much of a hole even though they rallied late to tie.

Rams combined receiving yards for Bruce and Holt: Under 148.5 yards (Bruce-56, Holt-49)

Final standings in Props contest (technically void since only 4 particpants but I'm feeling charitable this morning since an ex-GF was charitable to me last night).

T-bone......4 correct props plus best bet
jocannon....4 correct
Ootie.........3 correct plus best bet
YB............3 correct

T-Bone wins the props contest, not by virtue of the best bet tie-breaker, but for coming to his senses about Brittney Spears' actual bust size.

I'll have to take your word for it on the commercials, amigo. I missed most of them since the ex decided to visit while in town from Michigan and my current bedwarmer consequently decided to sulk in the bedroom. I got even later.

"Why did it take you 3 hours to drive HER to her hotel by the airport when it's only 45 minutes each way?"

"There was a bad accident on the 405, baby. Sat there without moving for over an hour."

Only good thing about the LA freeways is that they're usually good as an excuse for being late which is generally believable.

The Cedric spot sounds funny...I'm sure it'll be all over the tube for awhile. Brittney's were dumber than dirt. I liked the Claymation "little people" ad although I can't remember now what the product is.

Well I had the pats +14
the under 52.5
Warner over 282.5 and Faulk under 152.5.
Of course was too lazy to get my butt to town to bet small amounts but somebody should listen to me when my money is not on the line.
Of course was too horny watching game so ended in ZN anyway. Cold weather has gone away, actually AB is too hot. Plenty of chicas available at AB, CC is/was dead, LC, Trop and Miami same stuff.
And bad bews, I checked Michele de GDL waistline, no muscle tone, she is not on my list any more.

The rams are blowing it big time BUT the pats played to win and found a way to win, +3 in TO ratio.
And Brady is good man, Rams went soft on D disbelieving what they saw.
Rams are vulnerable when they stop running the ball as their passing game is long ball.
Damn if pats win with street free agents, it's great for the nfl as anyone can win now, chargers, browns...

The chargers had a hand at winning the SB...yes in week 5, Chargers were leading Pats by 10 with 5 min in to go and they let young Brady grow leaps by handing win to Pats with soft zone. Who would have thought I was seeing the future SB mvp.

Also Mike Riley wanted to draft a Tom Brady QB out of Michigan but of course Bobby screw it all Beathard drafted an unknwon dude out of Florida A&M.

I should of listened to you Athos about the underdog. It's almost same story with me...no money on the line and I was nearly perfect on wildcard weekend. Got to quit bringing that up as bragging rights only lasted a week.

Please quit teasing me about the prospect of a Browns Super Bowl. I think the only way to win there again is to try and talk Jim Brown out of retirement. I saw him deliver a eulogy at a friend's funeral 2 years ago and he still looks like he could play. Might have to have his knees replaced first though. Anybody know what Frank Ryan, Gary Collins, and Paul Warfield are doing these days?

Actually, it was good to see Martz get a little come-uppance as he seems to be somewhat arrogant.

And it couldn't have happened to a better owner than Georgia...unless it would have been Modell or Al Davis...especially that dick Modell.

BTW my ex from Michigan was also pulling for the Rams as she hates Brady cuz he's a Wolverine and she's a Spartan fan. Although Vinattieri was most impressive at the end and throughout the playoffs, Brady deserved MVP not only for TD to Patten but 5 for 5 in final drive. Ice water in the veins of a rookie.

Great to see how all the "experts" are so often wrong as to the outcomes and talent. That also applies to us "mini-experts" who follow the general trend of riding a proven winner. Not you Katokay.

Hey Milkdud...did you win your bet?

Any fans out there excited about the upcoming season? As much as I like other sports, they all pale in comparison to the NFL (FWIW, my current list is 1. NFL 2. Formula One ... HUGE, HUGE GAP ... 3. Boxing 4. Basketball 5. Baseball 6. Women's Tennis).

There are a lot of intriguing teams out there this year ... Philadelphia should take the next step; Ricky Williams brings the Dolphins an instant running attack they have not had since the 70's; the Patriots could go from SB champs to not even making the playoffs; the Rams could be on their last legs; will the Chargers make the move to Drew Brees?; can the Raiders actually be the first team to win with an average roster age of over 30?; and most importantly ... how long will it take the Cowboys to reclaim their rightful place as kings of the NFL? But what do I know? I thought Tennesee was going to dominate last year ...

Dallas ranked 4th in the NFL last year in Total Defense, and all they did in the offseason was add former Pro-Bowlers Kevin Hardy, Bryant Westbrook, and La'Roi Glover ... and drafted the best safety prospect since Steve Atwater in Roy Williams. Not only did Dallas add three Pro-Bowlers to their defense, they also retained last years starters at those positions ... thus improving their defensive depth.

Defense is not a problem. It's a guarantee Dallas will be top-5 defensively next year. The offense is also very solid ... the line is good, though not great. The wide-receivers are good as well, and some are calling second round pick Antonio Bryant the next Michael Irvin. Tight end is a question mark, but their running back will become the GREATEST OF ALL TIME midway through the season. All hail Emmitt!

Even with all that, the fate of the team rests at the most important position ... QB. Quincy Carter played well over the last three games last season ... but is he the answer? Dallas will go as Quincy goes this year ... and I suspect they are still a year away from a return to the Super Bowl. Even if Quincy proves to not be the answer, Dallas signed Chad Hutchinson in the offseason, and all signs point to him being the next Troy Aikman. Unfortunately, he needs a couple of years seasoning after 5 years of minor-league baseball.

It's almost time for training camp, baby! You know you all love the Silver and Blue!

-Superman-

..."You know you all love the Silver and Blue!"....

Ahh, not so fast, Superman. I do believe my Beagles play in that division. Mr. Carter, my I please re-introduce you to Mr. Douglas?

Roy Williams was a great pick for Dallas. This guy is fast and loves to hit. Also very smart.

I think defense will be great, but unfortunately they are going to be on the field most of the time.

Offense has a great, but very old running back and really no quarterback.

Chad Hutchinson played high school football about 6 blocks from my house and he was incredible. They had special reserve parking for all the football and baseball scouts who showed up for Torry Pines baseball and football games.. He also played fairly good quarterback on a really lousy Stanford football team. I think he is a longshot at best, but he sure has the pedigree.

Quincy Carter is also a big question mark. I think they also have a huge problem in their offensive line

Boy, that was kind of a drunken ramble by me last night. It did not come out so bad after all.

Bill, The Eagles are definitely the favorites. Hopefully La'Roi Glover and Kevin Hardy will plant McNabb into the turf a few times this year though!

Ben, QB is definitely the big question mark. The team will go how the QB goes. Emmitt is still a 1,000 yard back, and they have good depth. I've read a few articles on Hutchinson. Many GM's around the league think he's the real deal. Bigger, faster, and more mobile than Aikman, with similar arm strength. He obviously has to work the rust off though since he has not played football for so long. I doubt he'll even be a remote factor this year. The O'Line is looking good by all accounts ... I don't share your concern there.

-Superman-

Will they have the meanest and strongest offensive lineman in the NFL IMHO in Larry Allen(All Madden Team). At least I think they resigned him.

They have a problem at center which maybe will be OK with there rookie center from Colorado, but the rest of the offensive line to me is pretty average.


Hey don't threaten to beat me up in front of Adelitas, I hope I am wrong.

And another thing.

I am not sure there head coach can do the job.

Dave Campo has never impressed me.

Bring back Johnson and his hair spray.

Allen is locked up for his career. They re-signed Flozell Adams in the offseason. Rookie center Andre Gurode has been very impressive in the rookie camps and QB schools ... at the least he is much bigger and stronger than Stepnoski was last year.

I only beat up Redskin fans ... even though it's hardly worth it anymore since Dallas has beaten them 9 straight times.

-Superman-

I would be surpised if the Steelers don´t win the Super Bowl this year. They had one of the most talented teams in the NFL and are returning everyone except Earl Holmes who was replaced by pro bowler James Farrior. Maybe Bill Cowher might actually win a big game for once..we will see. Can´t rag on Kordell any more, he´s a pro-bowler now and placed second in the MVP voting.

How is Dallas going to score?

Steelers look good. It could be an all Pennsylvania SB this year with Pittsburgh Vs. Philly as the respective conference favorites.

-Superman-

I would say that Tampa Bay should be favored over Philly. Tampa Bay has the most talent in the NFL and now has Gruden to Coach.

Isn't it amazing what a new stadium does for a team? Pre-Heinz field the Steelers didn't have the money to re-sign 2/3 of their players, and this year they are tossing signing bonuses around like penny candy, with most of their starters locked in until at least 2004.
Beware... The Terrible Towel commeth again...


drew

Drew, I just hope that Cowher doesn't find another way to get the number one seed and then choke at home in the AFC Championship, like he does every frickin' year...

It's not Cowher, it's the QB. Cowher has to be one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. Remember, they did not choke in the AFC Championship in '96 with O'Donnell ... they waited until the Super Bowl against the mighty Cowboys.

-Superman-

Did you conveniently forget about the Super Bowl when the Steelers (the second greatest football team in history behind the Lombardi Packers) were crushing the Cowboys 35-17 before two late meaningless touchdowns? Of course you did. But why am I not surprised?

BTW, does anybody have the all-time Super Bowl win/loss records by team?

A Football kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Just a few off the top of my head ...

Dallas 5-3
Pittsburgh 4-1
San Fran 5-0
Green Bay 3-1
New England 1-2
San Diego 0-1
NY Jets 1-0
Ravens/Browns 1-0
Broncos 2-4
Vikings 0-4
Titans/Oilers 0-1
Rams 1-1

I'm sure you could find a complete list on the net somewhere.

-Superman-

Actually, Superman you are wrong about it being the QB and not Cowher. Cowher was the Number 1 seed 2 times with O'Donnell at QB and lost at home to San Diego (that one still painful) and to Buffalo in the Playoffs. He lost to San DIego despite O'DOnnel setting an AFC championship record for yards and completions. So, yes it is his ability to get outcoached in the post-season. Cowher is 1-3 in AFC Championship games at home and the game he won was almost lost to Captain Comeback. IN the regular season, Cowher rules...in the post-season he is horrible. He has been the number 1 seed 4 times and did not go to the Super Bowl any of those years. He went once as a numbre 2 seed but neglected to tell his QB that it is NOT OK to get paid (by who knows)to throw two intentional passes to the wrong guy

I was just laying a jab at Kordell is all.

"That guy" was Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown, #24.

Cowher is still one of the 2-3 best coaches in the league. For years at the end of the 90's they lost star player after star player, and Cowher got them to the playoffs year after year. I always thought they blamed the Offensive Coordinator for their playoff troubles ...

-Superman-

No Sup, the current vogue is to blame the OC's for Kordell's sorry performance between Gailey and Mularky, not for the earlier failures with O'donnell. It wasn't the offensive scheme that failed in that super bowl(I think it was brilliant), it was the execution of O'donnell (and he should have been executed for that crap).
Over-complicated schemes and too many reads seem to be the buzz words most often used to describe the failures of those OC's to pound Cordell's round head into their square holes.
In the end, the blame has to rest with Cowher for those wasted years, but that's the risk you take with having an old DC as Head Coach.

drew