Ok I know you hate Boston, but do you think I should give him a start over Warrick this week since SD is now out of WRs(Eric Parker and Tim Dwight and both out with injuries), or should I stick with Warrick since the Bengals are play'n for the lead in the AFC North?

Boston had a huge game last week, but all the Chiefs have to do is have the safety favor the side of the field that Boston runs his routes. Or does Flutie get a really quick release on the ball that this may not be a huge factor?

Maybe I should play someone else, my WRs:
Hines Ward(starts for me no matter what)
Ike Hilliard
Peter Warrick
David Boston
Johnnie Morton

I just won my 7th straight game, but continue to play the wrong WRs. I really need to win this week to have a chance to win my division and get a first round bye in the playoffs. This is the last week that I can get "the other guy" bumped out of first place in my division. We both have 9-3 records but he is in the lead because he has scored 65 more points than me during the season.

Wow, 7 in a row is studly, congrats. I can't win more than TWO in a row. I am almost officially dead in the water for the year at 5-7 after getting blasted again this week by yet ANOTHER QB having the game of his life -- Hasselbeck against the previously mighty Ravens D. He single-handedly outscored my whole team, but I would've won if the other guy had played Tom Brady against HOUSTON instead, a play anyone else in the league would've done.

Re: your WR's, I don't think Warrick is any big deal either, and the good news about Boston is that his infrequent good games are apparently HUGE ones. I'd personally want someone more consistent, but gambling on a potentially big payoff can produce nice rewards. Boston won a championsip for me in 2001 by having such a huge game in the finals while Randy Moss laid an egg in the snow in Green Bay. Of course THAT year the dude averaged 100 per game and had NINE 100 yard games. This year he sucks for three games and has a huge game in the fourth... As I don't think Warrick's any better and has far less upside, might as well stick with your boy Boston!

Snapper, I presume you made your playoffs? How do your matchups look for this week?

Despite a 2-5 start I would have made the playoffs at 7-7 by outscoring last week's opponent by 28 points. Instead my entire team laid an egg and I got creamed by a team I had beaten by 50 four weeks earlier. My D and K which averaged nearly 23 points a week went for -2 between them last week and Manning had one of his rare no-TD performances. Domanick Davis' injury didn't help.

I did have some fun this week, though, as I grabbed Jeff Garcia off waivers ahead of a playoff team that could have seriously used him this week. That Garcia was on the wire in our keeper league says a lot about some of the "short bus riders" that we have in our league. Oh well, there's always next year!

Since I got this yahoo team 2 weeks into the season and skipped the first three weeks it's not faring well in the overall rankings, but I think this might be the greatest fantasy football team of all time:

QB - manning (Vick and Garcia backups)
wr - chad johnson
wr - Santana moss
wr - terrell Owens (traded D. Davis for TO!!!)
rb - clinton Portis
rb - ahman green
te - marcus pollard
k - vanderjagt
d - KC

The team went 11-0 and outscored the league by close to 400 points.

You have Portis and Green for RBs. That would be nice.

Well, the "other guy" finally had a loss and got bumped out of 1st witch left me with a bye week that I didn't need since my team scored a season high 138 points.

This weeks matchup:
My team
Daunte Culpepper(QB)
Jamal Lewis(RB)
Edgerrin James(RB)
Hines Ward(WR)
Peter Warrick(WR)
Danial Graham(TE)
Patriots D/ST
Matt Stover(K)

Douche Bag's team
Trent Green(QB)
Deuce McAllistar(RB)
Chad Johnson(WR)
Darrell Jackson(WR)
Randy Moss(WR)
Freddie Jones(TE)
Rams D/ST
Ryan Longwell(K)

This is gonna be a tuff one for me. his team has been really hot for the past three weeks. I've won eight in a row and am due for a loss. I hope Chad Johnson sucks ass tomarrow for him and causes him to lose so I can make fun of him for not trading him to me for McNair. As you can see he's ok at the QB position now.

Culppeper over Trent Green should be the difference for you. That's a huge advantage. Of course Moss can dilute that advantage quite a bit, so you never know. Suerte, guey!

Yup, lost.


Culpepper, Lewis, James, and Ward all underperformed. My TE had a good day though

I get to fight for third place now. Sweet!!!

Playing coulda woulda shoulda, I'd have been playing for the championship next week as Manning and the Dallas D each would have won me my game singlehandedly. A week late, dammit!

Snapper, sorry, Dude. A guy in my league had Joe Horn and Horn had an INCREDIBLE game. Only problem: The other guy had Brooks! And Brooks was even BETTER.

OK, keeper league draft's next week, and since I was a friggn' LOSER last year, I got an early pick of the rookies/leftoversfromthekeeperpool. Basically I gotta decide how the following players rank, and have a BIG opportunity to score if I pick the right one: Q. Griffin, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, T. Bell, Chris Brown. Also on the radar screen are Lee Suggs and Steven Jackson.

Right now I'm thinking that the choice (I pick 3rd) will be between K. Jones, T. Bell and Chris Brown, with Brown looking like the best choice for THIS year and Bell looking like a possible BUST if Griffin stays healthy and keeps the Denver starting job. All that being said, I think I'm gonna swing for the fences and take Bell and get out my Griffin voodoo doll.

My keepers are Manning (the GOOD one), T. Henry, Dom. Davis, Chad J., Koren R. Not world-beaters (some dude has Portis, Tomlinson AND Alexander ), but not half bad either.

My draft got AFU and I ended up with Q. Griffin and not Bell. Now I'm his biggest fan!

The agony and the ecstasy of fantasy football: (well, more of the FORMER) -- Manning throws for 3 bills and 5 TD's in the first half. Of course my opponent has both Farvrerer (who's done NOTHING so far this year) and Javon Walker, who had the game of his LIFE. Favre and Walker trump Manning, and D. Davis and Q. Griffin can't break 20 yards between them despite 'excellent' matchups, and I get BLOWN OUT as my opponent has Thomas Stinkin' Jones and the ATL D.

1-2 and REALLY PISSED!

Lost again today to the first place team in my division to fall to 1-3. Scored the second highest in the League and lost by a whopping two points. Tiki Barber ate my lunch. NOT a fun day!

I'm now 3-4, and an incredible EIGHT teams in my 10 team league are either 4-3 or 3-4, with one team undefeated and cruising (Culpepper, Tiki, Curtis Martin -- he had a lucky draft) and one team sucking ASS (Vick, Jamal L., etc.). In such a tightly locked league I guess EVERY week is a must win, but if I can't beat this week's team it will be almost impossible to put together a streak to even finish at 7-7 this year, which might make the playoffs. The team I'm playing is pretty weak, but has some good matchups this week.

Of course after Manning, my team ain't so hot this year either. Despite a bit of bad luck record-wise I was sitting pretty a month ago with W. Dunn and D. Foster looking pretty studly while I also had high hopes for D. Davis, T. Henry and Q. Griffin. My faith in Griffin definitely screwed me over as I never figured he'd lose his job to the FULLBACK, who now is probably a borderline elite RB. Oops.

Manning has 63 out of team's 68 points so far today. Good enough for a ~50 point lead. GOD delivers once again.

My fantasy league for eight years decided to change the rules last year and it was the only year that I missed because I was hunting pussy in the Philippines. They decided to make the league a head to head league instead of total points in divisions and a playoff. At the draft this year in Vegas, I tried to get people to change the rules back to the prior way and got shot down.

I fuckin' think head to head is the most random shit in the world when you have a large league(14 teams). I have the most points in the entire league and am now 2-5 for the year. Tell me how that makes fukin' sense. They said last year a guy had the second most amount of total points and missed the playoffs. Ridiculous. I scored the second most amount of points for the week and had Plummer, Alexander, Rod Smith and the Steeler Defense....but I still fuckin lost because the opponent had a ton of Colts this week and even had Rod Gardner as his flex player...argghhhhh.

Anyone who has ever played head to head has horror stories about doing well and losing in fluky fashion, and I doubt anyone will argue that especially at playoff time it often comes down to LUCK.

A big PLUS for h2h, however, is that it can indeed make the league more fun if you know and interact with the people in your league. Rooting aGAINST their players can be almost as gut-wrenching as rooting FOR yours.

I would imagine the FAIREST scoring system is where you play every team in the league every week, which creates the ultimate power ranking. I don't know anyone that does it that way, though. And, of course, you'd still probably have to go to true h2h at playoff time, anyway, which ends up being the same.

My sad, sorry, RB situation may have gotten a new SAVIOR today: Just traded for EMMITT SMITH!!! Boy, I'm all set now...

My season just ended after Julius 'don't call me JESUS' Jones busted loose for his 3rd TD while Dallas was jockeying for overtime. I had a HUGE lead going into the night and got FUCKED on MNF by this last second MIRACLE. Thanks to Mr. Manning, I will finish among the top 5 scorers in the 15 year history of my league (fair shot at second best ever, while another team set the all-time record this year) yet due to fluky head to head matchups can't finish better than 5th overall. Unfrickin'believable.

Don't feel bad, I am 5-7, but have the 2nd highest point tally.

Wierd ass match-ups every week this time around.

I am 5-7 and have the highest point total in the history of the league....scroll up and you will see my complaints about head to head and why they are absurd. I mean, I can start my defense but that defense doesnt defend against the team I am going up against.

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I hope we end up with more than 2 teams! Dm, is that how you ended up 2nd in your baseball league?

Maybe Blazers might wanna make 3.

heheheh!

we'll see-- we could always open it up to the general pub if we're desparate.

it should be good for mo smack talking and pontificating at least...

hopefully the calender entry to keep it on folks radar and we will get some takers who enjoy the daily abuse ;)

We should have at least a 3-some when Blazers gets back from the land of pissed away paychecks. Looking forward to making both of y'all my bitches this year.

if we get a three way-- we can either open it up to the yahoo public dweebs or change it to stats based and not head-to-head.

what do ya think?

Lol, sure, why not. Beats playing with the CAT and the cat's inbred cousin.

I'm in gentlemen.... Just had the draft this morning in my money league. Can't wait to see if you guys offer as much competition as these dorks that want my chica cash.

another bitch added to my stable... That brings us to 4 from hombre...

watch and learn.

wowo 6 folks now joined.... come on two more!!

Also wanted to toss this out--

Right now it's head-to-head. Points or wins? PM me if you feel strongly either way.

points...head to head is absurd. Many times the guy with the highest amount of points doesnt have a good record. Total points for the season with maybe a head to head record as a tie breaker.

It's not like luck doesn't factor into a points based system as well, as one big game against a crappy D can carry for more weight than it's worth. In h2h you gotta bring it every week.

If it's not h2h, I'd actually prefer a roto system, competing for ranks in stuff like passing, rushing, receiving yards and TD's, etc.

But since 95% of all leagues are h2h, seems a no-brainer to make it such.

I've always gone h2h, and it has it's drawbacks, but so doesn't roto. So unless we get 3 other folks chiming in that they want roto, h2h it is.

Come on ladies!!!!!! In real football it is head to head. So why not here? After draft day I am sure I can take any of you head to head!

Now that the beating of the chest is done.... In my money league there is an additional monetary prize for total points. I realize this is a gratis league, but I am willing to throw props to whoever scores the most points this season.

Besides, it lets a looser feel special!

blazers, I think what he's saying is that your whining ass belongs to him this season...

Besides, it lets a looser feel special!

I resemble that remark. Last year in my BLOOD league, my overall scoring was the fifth highest total in the 18 year history of our league (thanks Peyton! And guys like Drew Bennett). Yet with JESUS Jones going NUTS on MNF in week 13, he punked my division record for good and I ended up not even making the playoffs. Two teams in the other division that DID were both 8-6 like I was and were a combined 0-3 against me. But our rules say division record decides tiebreaks, so I got fucked.

Them's the breaks.

Of course part of my bad luck was due to another team in the league being THE highest scoring team of all-time. Oh, and he won both playoff games too. It isn't always luck.

Girls Girls Girls.....

Head to Head? I just want HEAD Period!!!... Ha Ha

I have joined in this morning and Believe me...

YO SOY TU PAPA!!! ha ha ha

(hope i can edit this post if i lose)

GL

Last year in my primary league, I set a league record for points and the league has been around for 15 years....guess what fellas, I didnt make the playoffs. I would lose most of my head to heads to guys who blew there only load the week that they played me. My team was so loaded that I got to choose between New England and Pitt for my defense every week and I had Jake Plummer and Marc Bulger who were fantasy marvels last year even though poor QB's IMHO.

The argument that head to head is like real football is fucking bogus. My defense doesnt go againt the other guys offensive players and by sub versa. Its just my points for the week vs. the other guys. And Porker, 95% of the leagues are not head to head...its somewhere closer to 50%.


By the way, in a 14 team league, here were my draft picks in one of my leagues:

QB: Trent Green and David Carr
RB: Edgerrin James and Kevin Jones(will have monster year)
WR: Hines Ward, Derek Mason and Kennan McCardell
TE: Jermaine Wiggins and Ben Watson
K: Mike Vanderjagt and Jason Hanson
Defense: Philadelphia and Cincinatti(best up and coming defense)

In other words....do your homework and study up because I know my shit. I just spent 9 hours on Saturday doing two drafts...I could tell you the third string TE for the Niners and how many games hes played in his career without even looking at my notes.


(Message edited by blazers on August 30, 2005)

How many games has the third string TE for the Jets played without looking at your notes?

I agree that blazers knows alot except that the Steelers were going to the Super Bowl last year.

Heck they should have never beat the Jets as I posted last year.

blazers point whining: So if the Rams score 60 points againt the steelers, should they get more credit than a 20-17 win? Point is, there is a context and your playing vs. your opponent in the fantasy league. If you didn't make the playoffs then you apparently didn't score more points vs. your opponent on a regular basis or you would of been...

percentages: I'de say it's closer to porker's estimate than 50%. Probably around 75 if I were to guess.

re Blazers draft choices: ask for a redraft, your choices suck imho.

re "...I could tell you the third string TE for the Niners and how many games hes played in his career without even looking at my notes."

comment: unfortunetely that knowledge will amount to around 0 wins.

You should be sharpening your pencil for this draft unless you want to be squealing like a pig all year.

ONE more needed to round out the #s...

come on, consider it a free lesson...

DM, if you think those pics suck then Im happy your in this league because your draft will be a joke. Remember, this is fantasy football we are talking about not whether the player is legit or not. Players that I dont necessarily think are great like Trent Green are stellar in fantasy football, same goes for Marc Bulger, etc.

Edge is all done ... Jones is looking good, but he ain't going to do much with that O line in front of him-- sorry good try there. You shoulda grabbed ricky-- he's a more solid pick than a limping old man and a young stud running outa bounds to save his neck every play...



Now go get my boys some water.

LOl, James is an limping old man...yeah, ok...sure you know your football...just keep telling yourself that and maybe you might actually believe it one day...ricky..lol again.

Edgerrin has indeed lost several steps -- he just doesn't break runs anymore. ANY back in that offense would pile up yardage #'s. The Colts seem content to kiss Edgerrin's ass and keep giving him the ball, but he did get yanked several times at the goalline last year.

K. Jones? Who knows? QB is a huge question mark with Detroit as well as the line, which is too bad, as their young receivers could be really good. Jones was awful at the beginning of last year, but put up good numbers down the stretch. Might be a guy that only puts up numbers against bad D's. He has lots of company among RB's. I'd have taken Julius J. if he was still available, but can't go too far wrong in a 14 team league with two unquestioned starting RB's and Edge is obviously in a great offense.

Blazers, that's not at all a bad team for a 14 team league. You're short on firepower, but should get nice numbers from most of those guys.

Oh, and I think Cincy's D is gonna suck, like always, but you shouldn't need to play them too often, and if that's your weakest link you're doing damned well.

Why is this only an 8 team league? Makes no sense. 10 is a minimum needed, 12's better if we can get that many at the last minute.

pork-

cuz we were stuck at 7 for a while and then finally locked in 8. I would rather have 8 than risk 9.

Besides, I gonna spank whoever enters the league! :-)

Thanks to DM for setting the league up. Now grab your ankles, bitches!

good luck to all-- going to be fun...

go ricky!