Ouch. Pain. Dawggone it!

I'm sure the lovely nurses in BA will be able to help soothe the pain. Did you ever give Anabella from Bonnefemme a call. She specializes in curing ...well... pretty much anything that ails you.

EZE

EZE
Funny thing...when I am in BA I never really think about football

My biggest concern right now is finding a new farmacia to supply me with Viagra....

Did Oklahoma cover???

HA

Lets see 10 touchdowns in their first 11 possessions.

You bet your fat ass they covered.

Pirate,
Guess where I'll be when my beloved Buckeyes are playing our arch rivals to the north. I'm willing to bet football won't even cross my mind...

I would like to bet on Oklahoma against Baylor this Saturday, but it appears you have to give 52 points on that game.

I have never paid much attention to the largest point spreads, but this seems rather excessive.

Is it normal to have some college games with that big a spread?

I was also thinking that since Oklahoma got some heat for running up the score (if you watched the game, they did not run up the score) maybe Stoops will bring in his third string very early.

"Is it normal to have some college games with that big a spread?"

I don't know shit about collage football, but I would say this is very abnormal when the OVER/UNDER is only 62. If you bet on Oklahoma you may as well parlay it with the OVER.

Thanks for the advice. I see your point if I bet on Oklahoma.

Why not bet the UNDER if I think Baylor will not score and Oklahoma will try to keep the score down because of last week?

Betting the UNDER is fine, but I wouldn't bet on Oklahoma to cover then. Baylor can score no more than 5 points(only five combinations of safeties, field-goals, or nada) for the Oklahoma & UNDER bet to win.

Now watch the final score be 58-3 lol

This gets to complicated for an old man like me.

If you like Oklahoma this has been a very fun year to watch college football. In fact since Bob Stoops showed up five years ago it has been a great team to watch. Great coaching and incredible athletes

I just hope they go undefeated the rest of the year and play for the national title.

USC and Oklahoma would be a fun game to watch.

Ben:

USC wins that match-up...

And, oh, btw, I'll take Baylor and the 52 points, thank you...

YoungBrig

Eze, Enjoy BA. I return in Dec.....and will miss (and not think about) the SEC championship game.

oh yeah, if you find a drug store that sells Viagra (Phizer, not generic) let me know....the place at the corner of Paraguay and Florida has gone out of business

BY,

Why does USC win?

I think Oklahoma would match up well against the Trojans.

USC may or may not be the best 1 or 2 loss team in the country. A game against LSU, Ohio State, Miami, or Georgia would be interesting. Against OU? No way. I agree with Ben

According to the San Diego Union USC is a 28 point favorite today against Arizona which is the worst team in the Pac 10.

Oklahoma is now a 52 1/2 point favorite over Baylor which I would guess is the worst team in the Big 12.

Also both teams still are not completely safe as Oklahoma has to play Texas Tech and USC still has Oregon to play.

I will be in TJ this coming weekend with some buddies who all like to bet College Football. Is there a good sports book where we can watch the games and bet on Saturday?

I agree with Ben, Oklahoma matches up well with everybody in the country except maybe the KC Chiefs (Just kidding about the NFL teams...well except maybe my Browns). If Ohio State can pull a miracle in Ann Arbor next week, it is very possible they will jump SC in the BCS based on strength of schedule. Of course if they are one of only two or three one loss teams, I think they should be able to defend their title. As much as I hate to say it, with Clarett in the lineup, they would probably still be undefeated.

Allright, bring on the abuse. I don't care, I'll be in BA being comforted by one of my favorite chicas next Saturday.

EZE

Please no, not Ohio State.

They are the luckiest team in college football along with being a very good team. I hope that luck runs out next Saturday.

If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech next week it looks like Kansas State will play them for the Big 12 championship.

I don't think the BCS considers league championship games when figuring out who goes to the Sugar Bowl, but I am not sure. Does anybody know?

OSU=Ohio State Univ.
0SU=Zero State Univ.

they remind me of Duke in basketball,
referees give them alot of "freebie calls" or no calls.

Go Michigan!!!!!!!

btw. league championships have to count towards the BCS configuration. If one of the top two teams lose, they'd be out of the national championship game but not out of the BCS series.
IMO

Re: Southern Cal

As a long-time observer of the Pac-Ten and thus necessarily a long-time observer of Southern Cal, I say with confidence that this is as strong a Trojan squad as I have seen since Charles White was starting at Tailback...They are loaded at the skill positions and are executing Norm Chow's offense flawlessly...Plus, they play defense-- championship-caliber defense...

They are rightfully 22 point picks over UCLA today, and I am convinced they can defeat an undeniably strong OU team in the BCS championship...

YoungBrig

Re: Ohio State at Michigan

Ohio State has been pulling-off miracles for the last two years, so by declaring that it will take a miracle for them to go into the Big House and win today is not necessarily disconcerting...

Rather, its like been there, done that...

But, it WILL take a miracle for them to win today...This team is not last year's team, and they showed in Wisconsin that they can be intimidated by loud, unfriendly, environments...Krenzel simply does not have the phyiscal tools to put the team on his back and will them to victory, and against the onslaught of Perry's rushing and Navarre's throwing, this is what OSU will need...

Be smart: Take Michigan and lay the 7 points...Miracles are better left to Notre Dame, anyway...

YoungBrig

Re: Oklahoma at Texas Tech

Is Oklahoma really only 19 1/2 points better than the Red Raiders?...I guess after that Lost Weekend in Norman last week against Baylor, everyone's off the bandwagon...Poor Bob Stoops, 41-3 victories simply aren't what they used to be...

Strange things have a way of happening to the Sooners late in the Big 12 season...Take Texas Tech and the 19.5...

YoungBrig

YB

Wrong again but at least your are willing to lay it on the line. Lets see 56-25 = 31 points which of course was the final score of the Oklahoma Texas Tech game.

25 points seems like a lot of points for OU to give up but TT averages 44.5 points per game

I guess those 5 interceptions by OU slowed down their scoring.

I agree USC and Oklahoma would be exciting, but a dominating defense seems to uaually win the national championship.

Oh one more thing. This is Oklahoma's tenth year to go undefeated in a regular season which has to put them up there pretty high in that statistic, maybe even first.

I can remember a usc-okla game with barry switzer and few other coaches smoking cigarettes on the sidelines. Even at that time, it was unusual.

Switzer did a lot of unusual things like fuck cheerleaders and his asst. coaches wives. What is about people who are raised in Arkansas?

Smoking was not that strange in the 70's as I remember Bear Bryant almost always had a cigarette in his hand.

Place note that Oklahoma will be playing Kansas State for the Big 12 championship Saturday at 5:00 P.M.

I am not superstious, but I have been fucking at least 1 TJ chica each week that Oklahoma has played a game this year and OU has gone undefeated and beat the spread in almost every game.

I would take OU over KSU on Saturday as I have already fulfilled my duty this week, but just to make sure I am going to do my duty with at least two more girls between now and game time.

I sure hope we can watch the game at La Tropa Saturday night.

Benwhogivesnewmeaningtothetermtakingone--or two-- fortheteam......

Ben:

Just a quick heads-up: I'll be taking a flyer on Kansas State and the 14.5 points...

I mean, if OU can't cover at home against Baylor, what makes anyone think that they can cover against a K-State squad which drubbed the Cornhuskers in Lincoln?...

The Wildcats are battle-tested and will not be intimidated by the Sooners...Tonight's game will very quickly get very interesting for bored Sooner fans...

YoungBrig

Boomer Sooner! BOOMER SOONER!!...

Things were going so swimmingly for Stoops and the boys, weren't they?...

I think I will quote myself at this point-- from the post directly above:

"The Wildcats are battle-tested and will not be intimidated by the Sooners...Tonight's game will very quickly get very interesting for bored Sooner fans"...

Ahh yes, the thrill of victory: K-State 35, OU 7...

YoungBrig

USC #1 in both polls .... but BCS projections show it will likely be Oklahoma and LSU 1 and 2 in the BCS. LOL. Bring on a playoff system already. Trojans would roll the Sooners all day long.

-Superman-

Just like they rolled Berkeley? It's not LSU or Oklahoma's fault that voters have extremely short memories. The computers are right.

Superman,

How do you know what would happen in a USC vs OU game? In fact you have been wrong so many times predicting games I am surprised that you continue to make the effort.

I still remember your post about Dallas last season when they won five games.

I do agree that USC got screwed, but teams were getting screwed before the BCS came along. At least with the BCS all the teams that signed up. agreed to a specific formula. Now one team is bitching because it wasn't fair for them. Until they come up with some form of play off system it will never be fair, but a bunch of coaches and sports writers voting is even less fair.

LOL at Ben ... the guy who got shut out in sports trivia is trying to talk sports smack! You're nothing more than a woman trying to talk sports to me now. Plus you're clueless for not realizing I wrote the above just to get a reaction from you. Duh. Feel that artery start to tighten up when you read that? Take a deep breath, errr, big guy.

The reality is USC's loss to Cal was the worst of the three losses by the top teams. LSU and Oklahoma are deserving just because Florida and K-State are far better teams than fricking Hippie State U. Naturally, a playoff would solve all ...

Now shut up woman and get me a beer.

-Superman-

(Message edited by Superman on December 08, 2003)

I feel like I am such a bitch. Your bitch.

USC did not get screwed. There were three well-deserving team but unfortunately there were room for only two. Based on the given formula and criteria. They finished third. It's about as black and white as one can get.

Opinion wise... they may be the best team and the hottest team right now in many people eyes but they did not get screwed!

They are number 1 in the voting polls because of the timing of each team's loss.

A loss is a loss in the computer eye. USC didn't get selected because the committee thought that their loss to Cal was worse than Oklahoma loss to Kansas State or LSU loss to Florida. Wrong!

Had Oklahoma lost to Baylor and beaten Kansas State. They still would've made it over USC. The biggest factor in USC not making the top two spot in the BCS was because the teams they played this year had subpar year. That hurt their "strength of schedule" points. Which is very heavily rely on in the BCS formula.

Had Notre Dame beaten Syracuse and Hawaii beaten Boise last saturday. That would have raised USC strength of schedule and would have lifted them past LSU. Then where would the argument that their loss to Cal hurt them?

Everyone is in agreement that a playoff is the best way to settle this. There's no arguing that.

That's just my take...

Take care, silver

Silver is a very wise man.

With all of the loud crying that's taking place in SoCal these days, the collective wisdom here is impressive. I am so sick of listening to my fellow Angelenos (along with the local sports media) whine and whine about how USC got screwed. However, when I ask them what factor is it that entitles USC to be at Sugar Bowl in front of LSU/OU, all they can do is cite the worthless and meaningless subjective polls.

USC may indeed be the best team in the country. But if the biggest challenge they faced all year was a home game against Washington State, then the best you can say for them is they haven't had an opportunity to demonstrate that they are the best by an objective standard.

I favor a playoff tournament that would include the entire Top 10. I have a feeling that if such a tourney was played this year, that Number 10 (AP) Kansas State might emerge the national champion. Similarly, we see an almost total disassemblage of the final college hoops polls just about every year at the conclusion of the NCAA tourney. Exactly how much meaning does anybody put into the college hoops polls other than how they may influence seeding in the tournament?

(Message edited by erip on December 09, 2003)

Even though I hate Michigan I hope they pull an upset and that will end the whining once and for all.

having posted on football boards for both USC and Michigan, I agree with Maximus...I hate Michigan....so much so that I would rather hear USC whine after stomping Michigan than for the Blue to beat the Trojans....ya gotta love a team named after a condom.....

It would be quite absurd, though, if USC wins and they get downgraded in the polls. Beano Cook was screaming into the camera jesterday that there's no problem with having co-national champs, it's happened several times before. He's right. All other whining is probably about bowl money.

Now for the truly important stuff: Who wins the Heisman? The OK QB with the least name recognition EVER? A frickin' WIDE RECEIVER on a mediocre team? A 'do-over' for the disgrace at denying Peyton the award? The FIELD? I say give it to Eli. Makes as much sense as Carson Palmer over Dorsey last year.

Mike Price taking over UTEP seems interesting. I think it was Orgngrndr that said on many occasions before that El Paso is known as one of the best cities in the world for its strip club action.

It should be interesting to follow his career there. El Paso is a hole. But if Price could win in Pullman, he could probably win anywhere. If he rebuilds that program or his rep at all, I would expect him to bolt the first chance he gets.

I would agree, he is gone when he gets a chance...unless he finds the strip action in El Paso or on the other side of the border too much to his liking....

FWIW, although it has been years since I was in search of strip clubs in El Paso, when I last searched it was not good at all..... Phoenix and Tucson were much better! And Tampa was/is the strip club capitol of the United States...

Anyone have any interest in doing a college bowl contest? I did see in espn.com a way to participate and let them keep the score. If anyone has any interest let me know.

er... go 'Canes!

Notre Dame +7.5 sure looks like a great play this weekend, and they looked impressive on the road against Pitt. last weekend. This should be a field goal game and ND has a good chance, imo, to win outright.

Nice call.

My thought of the hour: Can Spurrier's So. Cackalacky team REALLY be bad enough to be 18 pt. dogs to the dawgs? I guess we'll find out soon.

Columbus, Ohio, MEET YO' DADDY!

dayum-- what a downer for buckeye fans. I thought texas looked very flat... up until they scored

Fun game to watch tho, but woulda been much better sitting at kokomoz and seeing it while groping a spinner or two ;)

wtf was that?? that OSU QB on the bankroll of someone?