| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 06:12 am: Edit |
Week 1
Skins -5 over Da Bears --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins -3 (-115) 1st half over Da Bears --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Cards +3 (-120) over Giants --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Cards +1.5 (1st half) over Giants --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
| By Khun_mor on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 05:39 pm: Edit |
Damn ! Pickin games in week one sucks !!
Gotta have the Ravens come thru to save my ass this weekend ! Hope Payton is lookin up at the lights from his back all night .
| By Due_diligence on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
-.3 units ain't bad. It is strange how you won the 1st half bets but lost both sides.
| By Bullitt on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 03:20 pm: Edit |
I was in a sportsbook at Pueblo Amigo center during the Charger-Cowboy game. At the end of the game it was like roaches when the lights go on. Caliente must have cleaned up on that game, very few people cashed in tix. I had Dallas to over and Dallas to over second half. Two of my few wins. I have to agree with Kuhn, alot of disappointments. Vikings, Panthers, Rams, Broncos. I'm just glad I missed the 10 am games or it would have been an ugly day.
| By Fooledagain1 on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 05:32 pm: Edit |
Skins -5 over Da Bears --- lost 1.1 units
Skins -3 over Da Bears (1st half) --- won 1 unit
Cards +3 over Giants --- lost 1.2 units
Cards +1.5 (1st half) --- won 1 unit
2005 NFL Season --- LOST .3 UNITS (2-2)
Yea, that`s funny, it won`t happen often, thought for sure I`d get 1 of the games after winning both 1st halves. 1st halves can save your ass.
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 07:33 pm: Edit |
week 2
Bills +3 (-125) over Bucs --- 1.25 units to win 1 unit
Bills +.5 (-105)(1st half) --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Cards pk over Rams --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cards pk (1st half) --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins +6 (-115) over Cowboys --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Skins +3 (-105) --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Will have Texans over Steelers, 1st half and game, game is off the board now
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 11:39 pm: Edit |
Week 2
Bills --- lost 2.3 units
Cards --- lost 2.2 units
Texans --- lost 2.2 units
Skins --- won 1 unit
Lost 5.7 units
2005 NFL Season --- lost 6 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 11:45 pm: Edit |
Week 3
Cards +6 over Seahawks --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cards 1st half +3.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Bills -2.5 (-115) over Falcons --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Bills 1st half -1.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 11:53 pm: Edit |
Oop's, actually have
Bills 1st half -.5 (-115) --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
brain's not working at present time.
| By Porker on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 04:18 pm: Edit |
Dude, you posting your picks here takes balls. I am FAR more of a pussy as I almost always chicken out when it actually comes to putting my money down on a game I like, and it's not like I'm right often enough to kick myself for not betting that often.
But YOU, man, seem to be quite the consistent loser on regular season NFL games. Your 'unit' gets lost seemingly every week.
One thing I'd advise, take it for what it's worth: Stop trying to pick teams with either shitty offenses (or just plain shitty in general) to somehow 'surprise' against the spread. You seem to be overly obsessed with that instead of trying to actually WIN.
| By Maximus743 on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 11:02 pm: Edit |
Yeah but he is always a huge net unit winner by the end of the playoffs
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 04:30 am: Edit |
Porker -- I don't claim to be any regular season expert, it's tough to win over regular season but don't be surprised if my picks rebound sometime soon.
Thanks for the advice.
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 04:34 am: Edit |
WEEK 3 RESULTS
Bills -2.5 --- lost 1.15 units
Bills 1st half --- lost 1.1
Cards +6 --- lost 1.1 units
Cards 1st half --- won 1 unit
lost 2.35 units
NFL SEASON TO DATE --- LOST 8.35 UNITS
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 04:42 am: Edit |
week 4
Texans +10 (-120) over Bengals --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Texans 1st half +6 (-105) --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Bills pk over Saints --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Bills 1st half pk (-105) --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Cards -2.5 over 49ers --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cards 1st half -.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins -1.5 over Seahawks --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins 1st half pk (-120) --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Ride The Skins Baby !!!!
| By Gregorio on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 04:04 pm: Edit |
Did I hear right? Mexico City has been awarded an NFL franchise? I'd like to get in on the concession cut at Estadio Azteca. I'd open my own stand and call it "Cagüamas Y Churros."
I'd have the fans "up" for the game...
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 07:38 am: Edit |
WEEK 5
Bills -3 (-105) over Dolphins --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Bills 1st half -.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Texans -3 (+100) over Titans --- 1 unit to win 1 unit
Texans 1st half -.5 (-115) --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Cards +3 (-120) over Panthers --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Cards 1st half +.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins +7 over Broncos --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins 1st half +3.5 (+100) --- 1 unit to win 1 unit
RIDE THE SKINS BABY, YEA NOW !!!!
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 07:46 am: Edit |
WEEK 5 FUTURES BET
Texans to win the Super Bowl +50000 --- 1 unit to win 500 units
Should be able to bet against this bet down the road, here come the Texans !!!
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 09:23 am: Edit |
WEEK 6
Bills -3 (-120) over Jets --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Bills 1st half -1.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Texans +10 (-130) over Seahawks --- 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Texans 1st half +6 (-105) --- 1.05 units to win 1 unit
Skins +6 (-120) over KC --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Skins 1st half +3 (-115) --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
RIDE THE SKINS, BABY !!!!
Skins look like a good pick as a surprise team thus far, today should tell the story if they can win the game. But my Texans look like 1 of the worst picks in history, they flat out suck bad. Might have to give up on em soon.
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 10:01 am: Edit |
WEEK 4 RESULTS
Texans - won game - lost 1st half --- lost .05 units
Bills - lost game - lost 1st half --- lost 2.15 units
Cards - won game - lost 1st half --- lost .1
Sklins - won game - won 1st half --- won 2 units
lost .3 units
NFL Season to date --- lost 8.65 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 06:21 pm: Edit |
WEEK 5 RESULTS
Bills vs miami --- won 2 units
Texans vs titans --- lost 2.15 units
Cards vs panthers --- lost .2 units
Skins vs Broncs --- lost .1 units
lost .45 units
NFL Season to date --- lost 9.1 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 06:24 pm: Edit |
WEEK 6 RESULTS
Bills vs jets --- won 2 units
Texans vs seahawks --- lost 2.35 units
Skins vs kc --- lost .2 units
lost .55 units
NFL Season to date --- lost 9.65 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 06:54 pm: Edit |
FOOLEDAGAIN1`S TOP 10
Here`s a list of the top 10 teams at winning the 5 most imporant stats that correlate to winning the Super Bowl.
This tells which teams are consistently outplaying their opponents on the field and which teams have the most balance.
Over 80% of the time the Super Bowl winner will finish 1st or 2cd.
1.Cincy (25 wins) IF they continue to play this well, this will be the team to back come playoff time.
2.Indy (23.5) wins
3.Jax (21.5)
4.Denver (21)
5.Dallas (20.5)
5.Tampa (20.5)
7.Pitt (20.4) Played only 5 games but on pace to win 20.4 over 6 games for comparances purposes
8.Seattle (20)
9.KC (18.6) played 5 games, see pitt
10.NY Giants (18) played 5 games also, see pitt
Keep in mind, it`s still early with alot of football to be played. This is how teams have played up to this point, some of these teams will fall back and some will continue to play well, these teams that continue to be at the top of this list will be the teams to back come playoff time.
| By Explorer8939 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 09:55 pm: Edit |
4 or 5 games is a really small sample size. If some team gets an easy first 4 or 5 games, the stats you are invoking will show them as a Super Bowl favorite.
On the other hand, by the time the sample size gets meaningful, closer to a full season, such obvious characteristics as Best Rushing Defense will make them not only a statistical favorite, but also give them home field advantage in the playoffs.
Bottom line: stats after 4 or 5 games don't predict much, which is, after all, the point of the exercize.
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:15 am: Edit |
WEEK 7
Skins -12.5 over 49ers --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Skins 1st half -7 --- 1.1 to win 1
Bills +3 (-115) over Raiders --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Bills 1st half +.5 (-105)--- 1.05 to win 1
Cards -3 over titans --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cards 1st half -3 (-105) --- 1.05 to win 1
It`s funny i got Cards -3 on both game and 1st half, bet game early in week but no 1st half line out yet, then game taken off the board because of Mcnair. Mcnair`s out, line goes up.
Week 7 futures bet
Cincy to win AFC (+1000) --- 2 units to win 20 units
| By Porker on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 05:24 pm: Edit |
Oh my GOSH, you almost broke even!
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:36 am: Edit |
Ha, ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha, smart asssss !!!! My regular season picks have alot to be desired, if i ever perfect the regular season the way i`ve done the playoffs i`ll move to Vegas and become a millionaire.
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:41 am: Edit |
WEEK 7 RESULTS
Skins vs 49ers --- won 2 units
Bills vs Raiders --- lost 2.2 units
Cards vs Titans --- lost .05 units
lost .25 units
2005 NFL Season to Date --- Lost 9.9 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:31 am: Edit |
Here`s a list of the top teams in total yards, a stat that correlates very well to winning Super Bowls and having playoff success.
1. Skins 387(offense)-266(defense)= 121 yds. Look who`s sitting at number 1, who`d of thunk it !!!! Ride the Skins baby !!!!
2. Seattle 390 - 299 = 91
3. Tampa 322 - 233 = 89
4. Indy 354 - 278 = 76
5. Dallas 359 - 293 = 66
6. Cincy 370 - 316 = 54
7. Philly 357 - 321 = 36
8. Arizona 345 - 311 = 34
9. Jax 300 - 274 = 26
10 Pats 378 - 353 = 25
11 Pitt 319 - 296 = 23
other teams
Denver 340 - 330 = 10
SD 334 - 324 = 10
Giants 322 - 412 = -90
History shows teams that make the Super Bowl outgain their oppnents by over 20 yards per game. Since the 16 game schedule in 1978, 46 of 54 (85%) teams that made the Super Bowl outgained their oppnents by over 20 yards.
21 of 27 (77.8%) teams who`ve won the Super Bowl outgained their oppnent`s by 45 yards or more.
The 6 teams who`ve won the Super Bowl that didn`t outgain their oppnents by 45 yards or more.
1. 86 Giants 39
2. 90 Giants 37
3. 87 Skins 24 (strike year)
4. 03 Pats 23
5. 80 Raiders 0 1st wild card team to win
6. 01 Pats -29 by far worse team stats wise to win Super Bowl
Interesting, the Pats have 2 of the 3 worst teams on the list, Bellicheck was involved with 4 of 6 teams.
| By Due_diligence on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 07:57 pm: Edit |
I LOVE the Giants this weekend.
| By Bullitt on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 08:30 pm: Edit |
How many people got the okie doke on friday when the miami game was played on friday instead of as regularly scheduled?
| By Explorer8939 on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:08 pm: Edit |
"46 of 54 (85%) teams that made the Super Bowl outgained their oppnents by over 20 yards. "
and 100% of teams that made the Super Bowl wear uniforms!
Statistics that include teams are worthless, statistics that exclude teams have some value. IF the statement was that "NO team that didn't outgain its opponents by 20 yards a game made the Super Bowl", that would be significant.
| By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 06:11 pm: Edit |
I couldn`t disagree with you more, to say that every team that makes the super bowl needs to outgains it`s opp by 20 yds for the stat to be significant would be to say there will never be upsets. There will always be upsets in sports. You have to take upsets into consideration. There`s always going to be the occasional team that gets lucky and sneaks in to the SB.
Point being, this stat is a guide, any teams under 20 yds can pretty much be eliminated from making the big game. And if I`m right 85% of the time, well quess what, I`ll gladly take that.
Statisics that include teams are worthless, not sure what you mean by that.What`s a statistic that includes teams ?
Using that same total yds stat i posted, it played a role in how i predicted Philly would crush Atlanta in last season NFC title game and that San Diego would not do well in the playoffs, both predictions were dead on the money.
Here`s each teams total yds last season;
Atlanta 318-325= -7 teams like this just don`t make super bowls
SD 347-335= +12
neither team super bowl worthy, and it held perfectly to form
| By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 07:16 pm: Edit |
BTW, if I remember correctly and I`m sure I do, in last seasons NFL Playoff`s you predicted Philly would choke and not make the super bowl just like they did in the 3 previous seasons.
Well, let`s take a look and see what total yds had to say about Philly`s chances in their 3 NFC title game loses.
2002
Philly 308-294= +14 not super bowl worthy
Rams 418-279= +139 super bowl winner type stats
2003
Philly 350-297= +53 SB winner type stats
Tampa 313-253= +60 SB winner type stats
2004
Philly 315-332= -17 not SB worthy
Carolina 321-295= +26 SB worthy type stats
2005
Philly 366-313= +53 SB winner type stats
Was it a choke job ? Looks pretty clear, it wasn`t !!!!
Interesting that all the experts thought the 2004 team had all the experience and should of made the SB and that game was a big upset, when in fact that was Philly`s worst team and it was no upset at all.
To the untrained eye those games looked like upsets, to the person who knew the history of the playoffs those games looked like they went according to form.
I posted before the playoffs started, that the 2004 Philly had no chance to win the SB and total yds played a role in making that prediction and was right on the money.
| By Explorer8939 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:15 pm: Edit |
Let me give you some examples how statistics work in sports. Since sports, like life, can be pretty random, what you need to do is to look for statistics that are extremely predictive. Here is a example from baseball, but the methodology works for all sports:
Ralph Kiner has hit more home runs than 85 percent of the players in the Hall of Fame (actually, this is just an example, I am not sure of the data). He had a better fielding average than 85 percent of the players in the Hall of Fame. Therefore, Ralph Kiner is a lock to reach the Hall of Fame. Not.
Barry Bonds has hit 700+ home runs. He has 2000 walks. No player with more than 700 HRs has ever not been elected to the Hall of Fame. Barry Bonds is a lock to reach the Hall of Fame (unless non-baseball factors come into play). Yes.
Find those statistics that are virtually absolutely common to winners, and you will be generating some real data, as long as the sample size is big enough.
Speaking of Philly, their ratio of runs to passes really sucks, and no team with such a ratio ever reached the Super Bowl, let alone won it.
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 07:59 pm: Edit |
I agree to some degree, but to say 100% of teams to reach the SB should outgain their opp by over +20 total yds to make the stat worth while, I totally disagree.
There will always be upsets or injuries to the key players on the best teams which allows lesser teams to slide throu.
There`s also the human factor, teams get overconfident and sometimes just flat out have bad games.
And then you have the tuck rule and the music city miracle, which allowed 2 of the teams to slide into the SB.
Point being, there`s always a certain amount of luck in any game, unless 1 team is vastly, vastly superior just pure luck could play a role.
Also, total yds is just 1 area teams can excel, there are other stats that are equally important, a given team could excel in another area. When u have combinations of stats the % goes up.
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 08:07 pm: Edit |
WEEK 8
Lions -3 (+100) over Da Bears --- 1 unit to win 1 unit
Lions 1st half -1.5 --- 1.1 unit to win 1 unit
Skins +3 (-115) over Giants --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Skins 1st half +.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Ride the Skins baby !!!! BRINGitON Giants !!!!!
| By Due_diligence on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 09:37 am: Edit |
The line has dropped to 1.5 at a few of the places I play. Did you buy the hook yesterday? I just put a little more on the Giants. Gotta love the homefield advantage and Eli Manning.
| By Fooledagain1 on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 05:06 am: Edit |
I got that when it first opened, i figured with skins winning 52-17 last week the public would go with the skins and push the no. lower.
Were the Giants just a tad pump up for the game or what ? They crushed my skins.
| By Porker on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 08:00 pm: Edit |
Has any team ever won by 35 one week then lost by 36 the next?
The conventional wisdom is right: Washington's just NOT that good.
| By Due_diligence on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 09:05 pm: Edit |
I agree. The Skins are not that good but average at best. IMO, they lose to Philadelphia next Sunday.
| By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 05:35 am: Edit |
WEEK 9
NO +3 (-120) OVER Da Bears --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
49ers +11 over G-men --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Bucs pk over Panthers --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
3 team parlay --- 1 unit to win 5.7 units
NO +3 (-120)
49ers +11
Bucs pk
Skins -3 (-115) over Philly --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Ride The Skins !!!!!
This is the week i sweep the board and get almost back to even.
| By Explorer8939 on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 06:34 am: Edit |
I feel that the Patriots are going to beat the Colts today. I have no scientific evidence for this feeling, though.
| By Porker on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 09:21 am: Edit |
The question is, will the Colts beat the Patriots TOMORROW? 
| By Porker on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 08:03 pm: Edit |
Easy to kick a guy when he's down, but, no, I won't do that, I'll be positive. Fooledagain, congrats on getting your money back on one of those 4 bets!
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:35 pm: Edit |
Thanks for those kind words Porker, ur a true gentlemen, smart asssssss !!!!!!!!!
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
WEEK 8 RESULTS
lost 4.35 units
NFL Season to date --- lost 14.25 units
WEEK 9 RESULTS
lost 3.4 units
NFL Season to date --- lost 17.65 units
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:46 pm: Edit |
WEEK 10
Skins pk over Bucs --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
49ers +14(-130) over Da Bears --- 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Jets +10 (-130) over Panthers --- 2.6 units to win 2 units
Texans +17 over Colts --- 2.2 units to win 2 units
2 team parlay --- 2 units to win 4.68 units
Jets +10 (-130)
Texans +17
| By Porker on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:53 pm: Edit |
Ahhh, doubling up on the dregs of the NFL in an attempt to get closer to "even". Dude, you REALLY should consider quitting while you're BEHIND.
| By Athos on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:15 pm: Edit |
shit i am the dumbest nfl gambler and I am 4-2-3 (yes 3 pushes), so are you down $2k or $4k so far this season or do you play pesos?
| By Khun_mor on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:24 pm: Edit |
In the words of my beloved Uncle ,who is a professional gambler, THE Golden Rule is always bet the team you think will win the game. If you think the spread is too high-- LAY OFF THE GAME !
I have followed this advice faithfully and it has served me well over the years. Betting on the clearly inferior team to cover the spread is a losing proposition in the long run. You may hit one now and then - but the averages are against you.