13-15 dollars apiece is wayyyyyy to much to be paying.There are a lot of places that sell for a lot less.(check around and don't settle for the first price quoted.

Maybe you can find them cheaper, but since I only use 1 or 2 a weekend, I'll gladly pay for convenience. There are better things to do in TJ than shop around drug stores looking to save a few bucks. I'm always in a hurry to get to the zona. Paradise.

taxibob mentioned the Cimetidine (Tagamet) i talked about in my post, and i just want to tell you I got that info off their website www.viagra.com, specifically the "Drug Interactions" section towards the bottom of the site. I knew about the proper dose just as a course of my professional knowledge, but that site mentions the 800mg dose, if you want a documentable source (that would be 4 x 200mg tablets). Take them at the same time as your Viagra.

Anyway, you guys rock, and I get some vicarious thrills reading your exploits. Nail one for me.

Southpaw

With tagamet in your system, double the time viagra takes effect as timing is everything. I take two tagamet when using it on rare occasions, 4 tablets that'd be a very long night.

I tried V one time in my life and it did not seem to work at all for me. I had just eaten about a half hour previous. A friend of mine told me later I should have taken it on an empty stomach. Does anybody have any comments about this? Also it was a 50mg. Did I screw it up by eating first? Or is it less effective in some people. I am 34 years old, weigh 235, and I don't remember whether or not I drank any beer right before or after the V, or if that would affect it anyway. If I did something wrong I would definitely try again. Also that HGW stuff sounds VERY interesting. I always take WAY to long to cum, even with the woman at home. Does the HGW make jr more sensitive? I think sensitivity may be my problem. Any comments would be much appreciated. btw, I just joined this board yesterday. It is good to hear from so many people that love the same place I do. About 10 people that I work with have all fallen in love with AB, and as many of us as possible try to get down from LA every week or 2

Adelito,
If you last too long, I don't think you want to take viagra as it increases plateau.
You may want to get longer bj instead.
Viagra takes effect much quicker on empty stomach, on a full stomach expect the effect to start a bit later. Too much beer is known to lessen performance. Sensitivity is not increased, try a good quality condom like Kimono instead. At home I'll suggest you close your eyes and you should be ok.

Does anyone have knowledge re Viamax(sp?). I stopped by my reg pharmacy and they told me they were out of 100mg Viagra, so he offered me Viamax which he said was a generic version of Viagra, just out on the market, same results as Viagra and cheaper by $4-5. I was relunctant since I never heard of it. I passed and went to another pharmacy to purchase Viagra (proven and gaurantee to make my session w/my favorita a memorable one). Just curious since I haven't heard or seen any posts re this pill. Thx.

Silverdude,

Find attached a post by DrD on this subject. I would suggest that next time you do a little research in the archives (Redsnake) as most of this stuff has been covered before in some depth.

Start:

Vasomax...ok, I think I found it.

Here are my 2 sources...(1) an article in the journal "International Journal of Impotence Research" 12/98, and (2) the Drugdex reference.

Apparently, Vasomax is Phentolamine mesylate. The drug is available in the US for IV use, and was previously available in the US in an oral form
for blood pressure. The oral form, Regitine, was made by Ciba (now Novartis Pharmaceuticals) and is NOT available in the US.

The drug Phentolamine has been used for high blood pressure particularly due to a condition with very high levels of catecholamines
(adrenaline-like substances) in a condition called pheochromocytoma. It has been used when IV versions of these medicines have been used for
Blood Pressure support in critically ill persons and the IV solution leaks out of the vein, to prevent tissue damage. It has also been studied for
erectile dysfunction. IT IS NOT FDA APPROVED FOR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION IN THE ORAL FORM.

Cautions about this drug include minor side effects like weakness, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. The most common side effect is nasal
congestion. Serious/dangerous side effects include: Tachycardia (fast heart beat), arrythmias, pulmonary hypertension, an Antabuse-like reaction
(with alcohol), and LIVER TOXICITY. It combines with Beta blocker blood pressure medicines (Inderal, Lopressor, Tenormin, etc.) to cause
profoundly low blood pressure.

The drug has been effective for erectile dysfunction as a penile injection combined with Papaverine. The oral form does not work nearly as well,
about 20-37% effective. It is not well absorbed from the gut.

THIS DRUG IS NOT FDA APPROVED FOR IMPOTENCE, because of the potential for DANGEROUS side effects, and because it has a 1/3
response rate. The new study, a lab study on Humans and rabbits, had a better tissue response. (It did not test clinical effectiveness on real
patients.) The previous manufacturer of the drug in the US (for blood pressure) withdrew the drug.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS DRUG. Use Viagra...it is safer, and has fewer side effects.

End repost....

F1

In my "Brazil Meets TJ" post from the other day I mentioned that I took Viagra for the first time. I only took approximately 15-20 mgs of the stuff as I spit out part of a 25 mg tablet. I had already taken HGW, Maca, and Wild Oates, so I didn't want to overdue it. In addition to being as hard as a steel post, I did have a couple side effects. The immediate one was a flushed face and later, a very congested nose. I should also say that the potency of the V lasted for hours, and the next day I felt a little of the effect in the morning. I remember walking around the CC well after my AB session and wishing I had not blown so much money on drinks at Trop with a sweet young flaquita because a gorgeous chica was smiling coyly at me and affecting my Viagra and herb induced state. The next morning I also woke up hard as a rock, more than usual.

The pharmicist above mentioned that any effects at 25 mgs could very well be placebo induced. Perhaps I experienced such strong effects because I've never had erectile dysfunction plus I take herbs for increased energy and sexual performance (I'd take the herbs anyway for increased energy). The nasal congestion was a drag becasue it lasted well into the next day.

Celtics

Adelito- love your name! Viagra on a full stomach won't work, best to wait an hour after eating(just like swimming!)or take it an hour before eating. I remember trying it the first time with my fave,it was our second go for the night, and when the knock came on the door, she yelled out "mas" (more) and sent the guy away! Of course now she complains that I last too long(ah,love)so, if that's your problem, you may not need it.
Pman-"at home close your eyes, and you should be ok"- you crack me up!
A.

I picked up some of that HGW and it was pretty good. The capsules are 500 mg. Any suggestions on dosage? Is this something you only take when you are going to need it or is it something that needs a "loading period" and taken daily. I definitely noticed I became horny about 1/2 hour after taking, but I suppose it could be I was just thinking about sex alot so I wanted it. Anyway I nailed my g/f at home about 1 1/2 hours after taking it and I came in 15 minutes. Normally it takes about 1/2 hour for me, or even more. Also I have tried it while jacking off and the orgasm seemed more intense. It seems this may be the way to go for me rather than V. I have found some info on various sites that sell the stuff, but like I said, nothing about dosage. I would also like to know more about Maca and Wild Oats.
I intend to go to AB Wed. night with a few friends. Anybody else gonna be there?

Thought I'd add my $.02 to this thread. I've tried V a couple of times. 50mg. It works and usually lasts overnight so the morning wood is also there. Had a big problem with the headaches afterward. Been searching for an alternative and found one that works for me. Arginine. Available at any vitamin store. I take one 500 mg twice a day. The effect takes several weeks to build but once it does its a continual stimulant with none of the V side effects and no unnatural feeling wood. Now I'm able to go 2-3 times a night and agoan the next morning. Fell like 18 again even though I'm 50+. This stuff works for me. Anyone else tried it?

PS cost about $12 for 100 capsules. Way cheaper than V eevn taking it every day.

Happy mongering

Hey guys.

I see the V site is still alive and well.

Some guys made comments about residual side effects of Viagra, and dosing concerns:

1) yes, 25mg dose has trouble exceeding its own placebo effect, and Pfizer is considering dropping recommending 25mg as a starting dose (ie, changing dosage range from 25-100mg to 50-100mg)

2) Viagra, just like most other drugs, are best taken on an empty stomach (meaning no pill less than 1/2 hr before an anticipated meal to 1 hr after one).

3)Viagra is a vasodilator, making the main vein in your cock dilate and allow more blood in, but unfortunately is too nonspecific and dilates other veins as well. One of those are your nasal veins. If you ever wondered where that shit you blow out of your nose comes from, it is a direct perfusate of the blood stream. So, if your nasal veins dilate, they get leaky and the clear plasma portion seeps into your nose (it should never be bloody on account of this, tho.). To make a long story short, you get a congested nose and flushed face (facial veins dilating too) for the same reasons you get a hardon.

regards, southpaw.

BillyPV wrote:
>
> Mi amigo,
>
> BillyPV here from the TJHombre web-site.
>
> You had mentioned you used Viagra and
> Cimetidine(Tagamet) together. A question if I may....
>
> 1. What effect did you notice?
>
> 2. What was the dosage of Cimetidine(Tagamet)?


...The effect I noticed is that there was more Viagra "on board" for a
second round. There are guys on the board who claim one dose of Viagra
enabled them to go for second and third rounds 4, 5 and 6 hrs later.
That is hard to defend pharmacologically, and all I can say is there is
some placebo effect at work there if they truly believe that. The
problem with Viagra is that it has what is called linear pharmacology,
and that it is cleared from the bloodstream rather quickly. The
half-life of elimination of Viagra is about an hour, meaning half of
what you had in you is gone in an hour, half of a half is left after 2
hrs, half of a half of a half after 3 hrs, etc...so it disappears
pretty
fast. Linear pharmacology means there is no lag effect...when the drug
is there, it works, and when it is gone, it doesn't. So, the effects of
the drug are in direct (linear) proportion to blood levels. The
objective, then, is to keep blood levels as jacked up for as long as
possible...thus the addition of Cimetidine.

>
> 3. If I go to Sav-on, do I ask for Cimetidine or
> Tagamet?


...good question. Some drugs are easily misformulated, in which case I
would recommend the brand. However, Cimetidine is pretty much "idiot
proof" and even the cheapest Cimetidine out there easily meets USP
standards....so get the generic with my blessings.
>
> I've used Viagra for a while but never this "combo"
> before. Also, in the event of a headache(which I
> sometimes get)is asprin ok to take in conjuction with
> this combo?

....the way Viagra gives you an extra hard hardon, is it causes the
blood vessels (specifically veins) in your johnson to dilate.
Unfortunately, it dilates blood vessels rather indiscriminately, and
the
veins in your cranium also dilate, which gives you that
pound-pound-pound headache where you can feel your pulse inside your
skull. It sucks. Aspirin if fine and does not interact with either
Cimetidine or Viagra. I prefer Ibuprofen (Motrin) myself, but there is
not a whole lot which works. Luckily, that headache side effect is not
a
big problem with me. I guess if you are paying too much attention to
your headache, you are not paying enough attention to your chica, eh?
. You will also get a stuffy nose for the same reason (blood vessels
in your sinus dilate and leak, giving you a runny nose. You nasal snot
is a direct perfusate of your bloodstream.)

>
> One last question(I promise)....if I'm going to make a
> "TJ Bombing Run" tomorrow, would it help to start
> taking Cimetidine TODAY to introduce it into my
> system, followed by another dose with Viagra when I
> hit the Zone tommorrow?

....as mentioned, Viagra is linear. Drugs that are non linear, where
you
can build them up in your system over a period of days lend themselves
to what are called loading doses, but Viagra's elimination half life is
about an hour, period. Therefore, it is most rational to take the
Cimetidine at the same time as the Viagra. According to the Pfizer
professional literature, 800 mg of Cimetidine (4 x 200mg generic) will
increase blood levels of sildenafil (Viagra) by ** 58% **....and thats
a lot. That is because it so happens that Viagra and Cimetidine
compete
with the liver for the same elimination route. Its like clogging the
sink with Cimetidine so the Viagra can't go down the drain as fast. So
no, loading doses are no good. Save your stuff.

>
> As you can see, my friend, I take my TJ visits VERY
> seriously!!

...thats why I considered this email to be an EMERGENCY. I dropped
everything to answer it. I live too far away(Wisconsin) to regularly
monger so I have to live vicariously thru my Hombre bretheren.

So, bottom line, is get the generic, take four 200mg Cimetidine pills
and your Viagra at the same time. The t-max (time to maximum blood
levels) for Viagra is about 45 mins to 1 hr, then starts being
eliminated at that point. If you can time it that tightly, then, take
it
about 30-45 mins before punching in and going to work. With the
Cimetidine on board, you will have enough Viagra to get a repeat
performance a few hrs later, because the levels will be about 50%
higher. The opinions of the Cimetdine with Viagra vs. Viagra alone for
the first round are variable (how hard can a cock get?), so I don't
know
what your opinion will be.


>
> Thanks guy!
>
> BillyPV

...do me a favor, and write me back and give me a detailed "clinical
report" ...I am truly interested if theory reflects reality here.

....also, feel free to share this email with your Hombre bretheren.
Repost it if you wish...like a FAQ. There is a lot of misinformation
out there about drugs and a lot of foolishness, and I'd like to see a
more scientific approach. Good luck. I want to be the official
pharmacologist of the Hombre list !.

Van K*****n, Pharm.D.
(southpaw)

BillyPV,

Thanks very much to you and your pharmacist amigo for posting this...some of the best and most authoritative info we've had on the subject. I didn't realize there was actually science behind the Tagamet/Viagra tandem...I thought a body of untested anecdotal evidence was behind that suggestion - while according to your friend, Pfizer is writing this up themselves.

The bad news is I've had it in my brain that I had a 4 hour window, so I haven't sweat the timing on the dosing. Now I see that isn't the greatest idea and explains some weak 4 hour after the fact performances. Nevertheless, my reactions seem to differ from day to day, contrary to what your friend is suggesting.

BTW, I'd love to get the pharmacist's take on how intake of food and alcohol effects the usefulness of Viagra.

Thanks again.

OK, now you've got my interest. Is Tagamet perscription? Do you have to ask for it or just pick it off the shelf?

Minuteman mi amigo,

I got some off the shelf at Savon tonight. $3.19 for a pack of 8.

I'll give it a good "road-test" tomorrow!!!!!

minuteman
buy a generic economy size bottle,you'll use them.
A warning though~eat lightly when using this combo.It don't leave much stomach acid for fast digestion of a six pack of tacos.Food decreases the effects of viagra anyways doesn't it?
I'm interested in what our pharmaceutical monger friend thinks about horney goat weed.
Taxibob

Mi amigos,
To put it in simple terms......FANTASTIC!!

I took our official expert's(Southpaw)advice and was very pleased with the results(so were the chicas).

I promised Southpaw a report of how this combo worked and here is a "clinical record" of my "medication consumption" for Saturday:

8:00 AM.....Viagra(50mg)...Tagament(400mg)...1 Tylenol

12:oo PM.....Viagra(25mg)...Tagament(100mg)

4:oo PM.....Viagra(25mg)...Tagament(100mg)

I was a walking "flagpole" all day. A fellow monger and I were having a drink and I told him I "had" to go back and find these two girls we had seen earlier. He said "which one are you going to do?" and I said "both of them". My amigo then asks "when are you going to do that?" and I said " now, one right after the other". And I did.

Southpaw, this combo worked so well, if I were to have spent the night I'd have f@#ked all night. Ended up doing 5 girls during a quick day trip and still felt like I could have gone all night!

I had NO side effects at all. NO headaches and NO upset stomach.

Southpaw, a hearty thank you from me & the girls!!!!

BillyPV

I've tried the Horny Goat Weed a few times and it seemed to really make me horny the first couple of times and perhaps decrease its level of effectiveness after about the third day in a row that I'd taken it. I don't know if you are supposed to take it every day so it "builds" or just when you are going to use it. I can't seem to find too much info about it except sales pitches as an aphrodesiac.
I have read what other mongers have tried and have been experimenting(perhaps unwisely) on myself. Everyday lately I have taken 2 L-Arginine capsules, 1 Maca capsule, 2 Avena Sativa(wild oats) capsules, 1 Damiana capsule. The last time I went to AB I also added in 3 HGW capsules. I haven't really noticed much difference. I am always horny anyway and these supplements don't seem to have changed that at all. I always take a long to cum and that has not changed either. I was hoping that these things might help me get off faster, but it doesn't seem to be doing that. Maybe I am wasting my money. Does anybody have any suggestions? My friend took 2 HGW capsules last time at AB and he said the only thing he noticed was that it made him feel kind of hyper. He went with 2 SG's at the same time and said it was great, but pretty much the same as without the HGW. So I don't know if this stuff really works or not. Sort of inconclusive. My woman at home says she wants some sex tonight, so I think I will give it another try. Maybe I'll tell her to try one.

Billy! I looked up the source for the interaction between tagamet and viagra on the internet:
In healthy volunteers taking 800 mg tagamet together with 50 mg viagra, increased the viagra level by 53%.
This would mean taking a 50 mg viagra, would give the same level when taken with tagamet as a 75 mg taken alone.
Tagemet has a halflife of 2 hours, Viagras halflife is 4 hours.
Other drugs or things that increase the viagra level:
Grapefruit juice
Niacin (a Vitamin)
Saquinavir (an HIV drug!!!) increases viagra by 140%. Isn't it great that HIV guys can even fuck better with viara?
Ritonavir (an other HIV drug!!!) increased Viagra 11 fold!

I will next time drink a glas of grapefruit juice and a vitamine pill

Mongerito, can you provide the url for the website where you located this information? Thanks!

When you say increases, do you mean the effect, or the duration? My understanding is the Cimetidine (Tagamet) only decreases the rate at which Viagra is evacuated from your system.

Hippie, increased always refers to the level. That means more of the stuff stays in your system for longer.
Erip: the url is
http://cp.gsm.com/fromcpo.asp
you have to register, but it is free and one can make up an ID.

The official Pfizer site is:

http://www.viagra.com

You want to read the information for practioners/physicians. They discuss the Tagamet interaction including stats.

Wow! I have established a cult following here. I think I will copy BillPV's post of Dec. 25 and put it in my resume! LOL.

yes, Mongerito reports Pfizers findings accurately. Cimetidine increases sildenafil 53% (not 58% like I said...my bad...sorry).

I didn't mention the antiretroviral drugs (AIDS drugs) influence, as I figured if you are familiar with them, you wouldn't be interested in mongering, if you know what I mean, at least not with chica's.

Some questions re: food and alcohol and Viagra.

I want every monger to raise their right hand, and repeat after me:

"I (your name), an official monger, do solemnly swear to not eat any food one hour before my first Viagra/Cimetidine to one-half hour after my last Viagra/Cimetidine, should I decide to space my doses several hours apart. I understand it is necessary to sometimes miss a meal and be hungry for a while in the interest of optimum f*cking."

You see, gentlemen, sometimes some sacrifice is called for. No one said mongering would be a walk in the park. Seriously, tho, food f*cks up Viagra bioavailability bigtime. The one poster a while back tried Viagra on a full stomach and paid the price in nonperformance. Pharmacology has spoken. Some guys have minor stomach upset with Viagra, but Cimetidine is a H-2 receptor antagonist (stops stomach acid) so Cimetidine conveniently kills two birds with one stone and should alleviate that.

Alcohol: No drug/alcohol interaction with Viagra per se, but alcohol is a known hardon killer. I know alcohol and mongering go hand in hand, but suffice to say alcohol never does you any favors....

Re: headaches and stuffy nose. Not a lot you can do for Viagra headaches. I don't get them so haven't had to deal with 'em. If you want to take some pre-emptive aspirin or ibuprofen, go ahead. My sinuses clog up like a brick, and I use Afrin or some other vasoconstrictive nasal spray. You gotta start snorting it right away to keep your sinuses clear.

I am a natural skeptic of herbal remedies, because herbalists never agree to the scrutiny of double-blind clinical studies of the conventional drugs that they claim to "replace", so that bothers me.

Anyway, having said that, the HGW intrigues me the most, and I always attempt to keep a more open mind than my more conservative medical peers. I wrote BillyPV earlier this week and told him I might get some HGW from the local GNC at the mall and give it a "test drive" on my wife. As always, full clinical report to follow....

Regards,

southpaw.

Just tried my first dose of Viagra this afternoon. Took a right thru the second turnstile gate instead of my usual way out to the taxi stand. Three pharmacies right across the street,I picked Pharmacy Land,probably the wrong choice,14 bucks a piece for 100mg,I bought 2 and I had to wait 20 minutes,these people are very slow. Anyway,long story short I waited till we were at the hotel,bit one in half while Favorita #2 cracked up and swallowed. I have NEVER had a hard-on like that in my life. Took about 25 min on an empty stomach,I weigh 160 lbs and am an athlete with an extremely fast acting metabolism. My novia kept laughing and saying 'MUY GRANDE". I can't ever remember pulling out of someone after cumming and still having a full blown woodie,even I was laughing. No side effects at all,I think because I hadn't eaten anything? Didn't even recognize my own dick it was so big. Problem now will be I probably won't be able to do without it.

After reading the posts here, I purchased my first supply of Cimetidine (Tagamet) today. Couldn't help but notice that the maximum daily dosage in the instructions is 400mgs. Meanwhile, the info being posted states that you should take 800mgs of Cimetidine to get the benefit of sustaining the potency of Viagra. So for those of you in the know like Southpaw, is there no consequence to doubling the maximum dose recommendation for Cimetidine?

800 mg is the standard Prescribed tagamet dose. That is what Pfizer tested (see below).

The stuff you buy over the counter is a smaller dosage.

From the Pfizer site (address is a few posts up)

"Drug Interactions

Effects of Other Drugs on VIAGRA

In vitro studies: Sildenafil metabolism is principally mediated by the cytochrome P450 (CYP) isoforms 3A4 (major route)and 2C9 (minor route). Therefore, inhibitors of these isoenzymes may reduce sildenafil clearance.

In vivo studies: Cimetidine (800 mg), a nonspecific CYP inhibitor, caused a 56% increase in plasma sildenafil concentrations when coadministered with VIAGRA (50 mg) to healthy volunteers."

Actually Southpaw quoted the 800 mg dose and P450 route in his post on November 13.

Yup, that is 800mg. The OTC dose is sold in units of 200mg, so I can understand that if one is normally not inclined to take handfulls of pills, four x 200mg Tagamet might unhinge some people. However, the prescription dose does indeed go up to 800mg....and that was the dose indicated in the Pfizer study. As drugs go, there is no such thing as a drug with no adverse/side effects, but Cimetidine is about as tame as they get. It is a safe risk.

ps--I noticed some "testimonials" pouring in re: their experiences with Viagra and Cimetidine. The combo has gotten mixed reviews on how much it improves performance vs. Viagra alone. Now you know first hand how challenging data analysis is on legit medical research. It is not all smiling faces nodding in agreement like they have in the bullsh#t herbal studies that they show you at GNC and elsewhere, but thats a bitch for another forum that I will not burden upon you guys.

southpaw

I normaly post under the Costa Rica thread and today is my first visit to this thread. Lots of great info. Thanks guys!

For what it's worth, here's my experience. I'm in my early 50's, 6'2", 190lbs., and in excellent health and physical condition. However, I do have some problems with erectile dysfunction (I don't have an initial problem getting an erection, but at times I have difficulty maintaining one during extended lovemaking sessions, which are an important part of my sex life) so for me Viagra is more than just an enhancer. I also find that it de-sensitizes me slightly, which can be a benefit if I want to fuck for a long time before orgasm. Also, it makes it possible for me to get another erection fairly quickly after an orgasm. I've been taking it for about a year and use it 2 out of 3 times before I have sex.

I started with 100mg dosage, cut down to 50mg, and a couple of months ago I cut down to 25mg. For me, the 25mg dosage is adequate. At higher dosages, I have a lots of flushing and sometimes get mild headaches. At the lower dosage I get all of the benefits without the side affects (I still get a little mild flushing so I can tell that it's kicked in). Usually it takes about 30 to 45 minutes for it to take effect unless I've eaten within the past hour or so, in which case it takes 45 minutes to a hour. The effect lasts for several hours but it's difficult to say for sure what the maximum time is.

Incidentally, I hate the pill cutters. I invariably get a lot of crumbling and uneven pieces. I have no problem breaking the 100mg pills fairly evenly with my fingers. When I make the first break, I occasionally end up with an undersized piece - in which case I leave the smaller piece whole and break the larger into two pieces so I end up with three pieces instead of four - no big deal.

I've never tried combining Viagra with Tagamet or other medications and don't see any reason to do so since I'm getting good results now.

I am prone to headaches from sinus headaches. Does that mean I should stay away from viagra,
given the congestion and headache side effects
reported here?

If so, does anyone recommend alternatives?

I am 42, and usually do 3 chicas per zona trip. But sometimes I do not maintain erection continously during session with the 2nd or 3rd chica.

I have been thinking about trying viagra
but would hate to get a severe sinus headache while trying to have sex.

I take allegra for my allergies.

I've just tried Viagra for the first time this week. I too am prone to bad sinus problems and all the things that come along. I tried a 50mg tablet and waited an hour and I was hard for a hour after that even after I had just finished with a chica. the amazing thing is I had no headache or stuffed up nose, maybe that will change if I use it more or maybe it's a person to person situation.

I used Viagra to overcome the psychological conditioning that was part of my ex-wife's revenge for leaving her. In her anger, she recruited members of the local SEAL team and stalked my boat -in order to use ultra-low frequency emmissions and mind control auditory stimuli, to fuck with me, as I slept in my bearth below the waterline. I remember waking up 'mid-session' unable to move -due to the paralizing effects of the ULF bombardment.

When they switched off their sonic assult, I could hear the whirring cavitation of the screws on the underwater delivery vehicle and a slight tug as they caught the line on my crab pot. Over all of this, I could hear her laughing, as they sped away. I'm sure that I'd slept through many of these sessions -only the most severe would wake me. I had considered laying a trap, for their sortes were numerous. But, I knew that my interference in their submarine activity may have proven fatal for them. God, what an embarrassment that would be.

Forever the victim of love.

The Viagra helped. I can perform well, for my age, with every woman I find attractive, though there is still an awkward period in our initial courtship.

If the heart says no(this is not right for me), the dick don't go.

Viagra is my 'sport-fucking' drug of choice.

Viagra helps take your heart out of the equation, if that is a problem to begin with. Furthermore, after taking Viagra, as all the blood rushes to my inflating penis and away from my brain I become a zombie led by my flesh zeppilin seeking to penetrate.

Awkward courtship? Is that the part where you make a circle with the thumb and index finger of your left and push your right index finger back and forth through ring made by your left hand, she says $50, and you say Si!

Gracias por tus pensamientos. Me diviertas mucho. Siempre, rompen mi corizon. Cada chica es una pequena muerte a mi. Estoy un junky(addicto) de amore. Asi ...

I get really bad heartburn from the stuff, usually hitting about 6 hours afterwards. Apparently it also relaxes the esophogeal(sp?) muscles too. Ive tried the Tagamet but by the time I take it I'm in pure misery. Is it better to take it with Vitamin V? What about Prilosec?

I take the Tagamet BEFORE taking Viagra. Several hours before. You want the 800 mg dose of Tagamet. T and V compete for expulsion, so I flood the "channel" with Tagamet before taking Viagra. I have never had an upset stomach from Viagra.

Prilosec has the same effect as the Tagamet, not so Prevacid, though. I take the Prilosec around 5 in the afternoon and the V any time during the evening and things work out right. Stomach stays calm, dick stays hard, life is good.
E_C_J

Be careful with Prilosec it has more side effects for some people.

Thank you all for your replies

There may have been some slight misunderstanding here. Tagamet and Prilosec are both drugs to reduce or prevent stomach upset. But they are 2 VERY different drugs.

Tagamet, and NOT Prilosec, was proven by Pfizer to slow down the expulsion of Viagra from your system. Tagamet makes a given dose of Viagra last longer and stay at higher blood levels.

Prilosec is a better stomach drug but does not interact with Viagra the way Tagamet does. This is all per Pfizer's testing and published information about Viagra. The interaction has been discussed here in detail before.

Prilosec DOES interact with Viagra much the same way that Tagamet does. I confirmed this with my physician and noticed it from my own first hand experience.
When my cheap ass insurance company had my prescription changed from Priolsec to Prevacid though, the effect went away immediately.
I don't think that Pfizer did any testing on the Prilosec interaction but my Doctor confirmed that the same mechanisms existed as far as competing for elimination.
I don't recommend anyone taking Prilosec for its Viagra effect but if you are faced with having to take Prilosec or Prevacid be advised that there appears to be a positive interaction with Prilosec and no interaction with Prevacid. Do NOT take Tagamet along with either of these drugs unless specifically approved by your Doctor.
E_C_J

I am unaware of Prilosec research by Pfizer. You may very well be correct about its interaction.

Time to summon/invoke/conjure up Southpaw or Shy Guy or Dr Dick for a professional opinion!

The Tagamet boost has been previously confirmed by the above and considered relatively safe at sensible doese (like driving or flying)

Anybody heard of Cyclovar?I just got a brochure in the mail,says the stuff is just as good as V,but it will be over the counter.It's offering a price of 90.00 for 60.The way I use V, 60 would last me for years!Anybody heard of this stuff? Is it available in Mexico?
a.

Yeah, A., F. Nitzsche used that stuff to produce erectile dsyfunction before he didn't have sex. Worked everytime.

The FBI and FDA advise that there are numerous fraud attempts trying to shadow legitimate products. If you want better erections through modern chemistry, then stick to Viagra.

But if you reallly want to spend $90 for 60 pills e-mail me. I have some old vitamins that are changing color. They will **outperform** any placebo in your mind!

Weird NEW warning label on Viagra Rx...when I went in to refill my bottle of trusty Vitamin V it came with one of those little warning stickers that read:
"This drug may impair your ability to drive or operate macinery. USE CARE until you become familiar with its effect."
The only problem I've ever had driving is my Johnson hitting the steering wheel from being too hard. As for operating machinery - the only things I want to operate are a bottle of Dos Equiis and a hot, tight little panocha.
Anyone else see this warning?
E_C_J

It may be due to the blue tinge vision that some people get that may affect their night driving.

Jesus Christ, Viagra is for impotence! I thought it was for omnipotence. No womder it ain't helpin' me.

Oh, I know what you're thinking.

Just a comment on that generic Vimax...
For those of you who cut or break the 100mg Pfizer pills in half, you may eventually find that breaking them into quarters is the better value, at least on an empty stomach and just 2-3 beers. That's what I found out after reading others' suggestions.

Breaking the diamond shaped Pfizer brand pills into quarters by hand is generally accurate enough for me (although much harder if you just over-trimmed your nails, in which case biting might be better).

The generic Vimax pills happen to be TRIANGULAR.

Try breaking THOSE into generally equal quarters by hand or teeth.

If 25mg does it for you, the shape of that generic pill may conspire against the value of buying it in the first place....unless of course you are skilled at breaking a tiny triangular pill into four generally equal pieces!!!