Superman the piss strips are Ketone test strips they test if you are in Ketosis thats the process of burning fat. Your body first needs to burn off Carbs then after all your carbs go to the zona your body then burns off fat.

If you have no carbs or very very little then the process skips a step and burns off the phat phirst which is very good for us tubs

This is my second time on the diet and i plan to stay around the 145 150 mark for good.

Also where can I find Kendricks protein shakes thay sound good

take care
Milkguy

I'm saying why would you want to walk around at 145-150? That's tiny for a man. Add some muscle and it will take care of the fat.

The best "diet" is to eat less and exercise more. Muscle devours fat. I eat whatever I want ... I'm craving Baskin Robbins right now and am out the door momentarily for a 3 scoop sundae with hot fudge.

Stupid people (Dogster)

-Superman-

What he said:
I'm craving Baskin Robbins right now and am out the door momentarily for a 3 scoop sundae with hot fudge.

What he meant:
he's looking for the "back door" momentarily and wants some "hot fudge" after after spooning Milky vanilla-style three times. But after all that "exercise" and "eating" he's pooped.

Actually, that thing was very unsatisfying. Damn sundae cost over $5 and didn't fill me up. The chick working the counter was cute ... nice legs but too much acne. Right up Bens' alley.

I followed it up with some KFC ... chicken breast extra crispy, biscuit, and some home fries or whatever the fuck they are. That was good.

I'll stick to the Ben & Jerry's half pint for $3.25 or so ... much better value and very satisfying.

-Superman-

Superman and Kendricks have started the Ass-kins diet

Glad to hear the fudge packing went well, man

I'm glad to see you're taking your beating well. That's the spirit!

-Superman-

Gahhh!



-Superman-

I love the Ben and Jerry’s Vanilla with Heath candy bar. Also the Baskins Robbins Pralines and Cream.

I seldom eat ice cream anymore.

As you get older your body just slows down. That is why it is important for us older guys to exercise.

Please no flame or hatting in this room Bookguy will be mad

this is for discussion for to lose weight on the atkins program.

Bookguy pick up one of the new versions of his book. The last book I had I beleive was a 97 version and the new version I have is 2002 and let me tell you something it is a lot different.
Talking about dwinking beers and still staying on the diet and they also have a section of restaraunt replacements which is very interesting.

I also got a carb counter book with a lot of the fast food places and Starcocks coffee carbs you will be amazed at some of these diet killers in here !! Also i cant beleive all the atkin products that are low in Carbs !! Such as the pankake syrup and mixes for bread
And that the recomended sugar substitute Splenda has 1.6 carbs per serving. That is knuts !!
I use a lot of this stuff in my coffee. I might try the aktins syrup instead which has zero carbs. Sugar twin has the lowest at .4 Equal has.9.
I could go on and on but I will leave more room for later

Just curious how much have you guys lost and how long have you been on it without eating orange chicken ?

My friend went on it a 2nd time and didnt exersise at all and only lost about 10 pounds in 4 months to me this is a waste of time if I am only gonna lose 10 pounds in 4 mes.

I am gonna do a wot more exersising this week and really push the envelope next week by the way where the fuck did that saying come from "push the envelope " ?

Keep the comments cumming it gets me more motivated

thanks
MilkGordo

Another thing you guys might try to consider is to carb up every once in a while. Whenever you diet your gonna lose fat but also muscle. The diet that I like to follow is a 5 day no carb with a 2 day carb up. This helps stave off some muscle loss. There is a lot more to it so if your interested do a search for "bodyopus".

Mr Bean

When i first went on the diet I visited a doctor. He had other patients that went on the program and he saw the weight loss and knew of the diet for many years. He said to me make sure you eat fat and meat on this diet if you do not your body will have no fat to burn and it will start to lose muscle tissue so I would have to disagree with your post. I was also told this by a nutritionist and personal trainers at my old gym.

After my 3 months are up i will go on the lifetime maintnence program but will still treat myself every 2 weeks to a carb meal when i go out on a date or with friends like Superman

take care
Milktuff

I've modified myself off of Atkins, to a sort of "Book Guy's Neanderthal Diet." I allow myself fruits and berries in the morning, often with large amounts of cream. Then, for the rest of the day I'm zero-carb, as close as I can to that. Fish and pork and poultry, generally grilled; Atkins bars or shakes; the odd handful of nuts; celery and cheeses. This is practically what I had been eating on the Atkins anyway.

I make sure I take a lot of multivitamins, as I'm probably going to be low on micronutrients, especially metals, otherwise. No carbs after noon.

But adding the strawberries back into my daily routine has given me newfound energy, to the point that I like to work out again. The pure Atkins induction had me too low in glycogen, I think, so I was getting sluggish.

Now all I gotta do is get rid of this damn psoriasis ...

I am also in the Atkins Diet. Have been for about 5 weeks and I have lost up to 20 pounds, and have kept off, until now 17 lbs. I started at 210 and this morning I am 193, which has been my standard for about 3 weeks now. I am 6 feet 1 inch, so I believe this is my ideal weight without losing any muscle.
What I have noticed is the following:
I play basketball in a Statewide tournament in Mexicali about 2 games per week. I noticed that I can jump higher, but I also feel alot more weaker than I used to. In one game, I was about to pass out, so what I do now before each game is carb up with fruits, peanut butter and milk. During the game I drink lots of Gatorade. This is only in game days.
But still, after 5 weeks I also feel down and not as strong as I used to. I am tuff'like'milky, so I dont take any vitamins nor any of that crap apart from meats and some veggies and cheeses.
Should I start to take vitamins, minerals and all that stuff for sissys?

Please suggest.

Masterater

I am glad there is at least one other tuff guy besides you me and Youngbrig
Yes if you are doing the Atkins you should take a Multi vitaman sin Iron

good Luck
Milkerater

Milkman:

Why drag me into all this?...

However, since I'm here, my miracle recommendation for weight loss is buying and actually consuming a bowl of fruit from one of those streetcart vendors...IF you survive, you'll be about half the man you used to be...

Good luck...

YoungBrig

LOL or one of those vendors who pokes a hole in a coconut and you can suck the coconut milk out ...

Book guy:

Have you tried that?...

YoungBrig

When I was young and foolish, yes. On my first trip to Mexico, with a school class. I thought it was just a cool way to get with the local snack. Little did I know, coconut milk is an EXTREME diuretic. Three days of what I thought was Montezuma's revenge, and ten years of ignorance that coconut milk does that to EVERYONE ...

I am not an expert, but i am not sure that carbs in Splenda are the carbs that affect blood sugar. I think Atkins says they leave your system. I have got a protein bar here which is loaded with carbs also, but it only has 2 net carbs.

I think everyone here is trying to find a balance with their lifestyle. Atkins, South Beach they all make you aware of the crap we can consume with processed foods.

Wyattearp: To the best of my understandnig, Splenda does not have carbs; it also has no calories. You may be thinking of sugar alcohols, which are used in many of the sweet candies and protein bars that are associated with the Atkins program. These are carbs that, unlike sugar, do not affect blood sugar levels, or, if they do, only minimally. Part of the confusion may be from the fact that in some cases, both Splenda and sugar alcohols are both in an Atkins product.

From a Splenda box:

"Not a significant source of calories from fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, dietary fiber, sugars, vitamin A, vitamin C, calcium and iron."

Also:

"Total Carb.
Less than 1g
0% [of USRDA]"

for "1 packet (1.0 g)".

Yours in technicalities ...

Thanks Wyatt and Laguy

Well Week 2 is gone and I am at 167 if you want to be technical I have lost 6 1/2 pounds in 2 weeks.

My goal is 4 pounds a week now. When I hit 145 i will stop the diet and work on my chest which looks like a broken bag of Cuban potatoes scattered on the highway

As of Now I am doing 40 to 50 pushups a day to help with my arms they look like spaghetti strings on a bad day

Doing around 30 to 40 pushups a day to help with my potatoe sack stomik.

At 4 pounds a weak I should hit 155 in time for the next fiesta and I will not be ashamed of being in public

And should hit my goal within 2 months

take care guys
Milktuff

This is incredible. I've been following some of the rules of the Atkins diet by eliminating bread and other baked goods from my diet. I've slowly been losing weight. Saturday I bought a loaf of Hawaiian Sweet bread and have subsequently devoured it. Today I'm up 5 pounds!!

What the heck is going on? Certainly the bread doesn't weigh 5 pounds. Must be that these flour based foods cause water retention also.

No mas pan.

Carbs are high-octane fuel, your body loves 'em. In fact, if you give it the opportunity, it will store that fuel for later consumption (turn it into fat). You never lose your fat cells. The moment the carbs are up and your blood sugar is up, your body will happily store the excess carbs as fat.

Eating one meal of high carbs would not alone explain the weight gain. I suspect it is water or something else...or you have not been following the diet strictly enough. I actually encourage people to have 1 cheat meal a week. It helps to deal with the constant cravings for the foods you love. The rule on cheat meals should be that you have to sit and eat them. Dont nibble on the bread, then an hour later eat more. etc. Sit and eat till you are content, then stop. And if you do a carb day once or twice a week, make your cheat meal on this day.

I know Adkins doesnt advocate a carb day. My experience is that you have to find what works for your body, but that your body will respond well--and continue to lose weight even if you have a carb day every 5, or 7, or 10 days. In fact, it can help by replacing your glycogen stores and giving your energy you need for excercise (or fucking).

Gcl: "giving your energy you need for excercise (or fucking)."

Hey dude, my main source of exercise IS fucking!

Unfortunately, consuming some extra carbs in one day can knock a guy out of ketosis. This has been my experience. The low carb approach does not lend itself well to cheating (which is either fortunate or unfortunate). I find that if I eat a 100g carb meal (2/3 of a 12" pizza, half a cup of Dulce de leche, a big piece of bananna cake or carrot cake, 2 bagels, etc.), it can knock me out of ketosis for nearly a week. That's one week of not losing any weight. That makes it real easy to pass up a slice of chocolate cream pie (60=g of carbs) knowing that it is thre times my daily limit.

On the other hand, I no longer crave many high-carb foods. I used to eat a dozen bagels a week (I live WAY to close to THREE bagel bakeries) and have two or three muffins every day (one crummy carrot muffin has over 60g of carbs!). I no longer crave plates of pasta and baked potatoes either. I can walk right past the candy counter with no more than a glance (and I love snackin' on candies).

Yes, a carb day will knock you out of ketosis, sort of the idea. You will still lose weight by going in and out.

GCL, I agree with you and Wombat that a single "cheat" meal with lots of carbs will probably knock you out of ketosis. What I don't get is how you can go on losing weight if you AREN'T in ketosis. I would like the opp. to do a cheat now and again, especially since I find full-bore Atkins to leave me a little too drained (glycogen) for good workouts. How do I draw the line? I'm trying to lose consistently, while also ingesting enough fuel (of any form) for good energy, attitude, and WANTING to weight train.

I go in and out of ketosis when I am trying to lose body fat. I have tried staying in ketosis and havent had the same success as I have enjoyed going in and out. My body also doesnt hit plateus since going in and out will fool it into thinking there isnt a crisis.

Almost all body builders and fitness competitors who are trying to maintain a low bodyfat or lose bodyfat use this method. Occasionally, just prior to a show do they go into ketosis and stay there until after a competition. Bottom line is, those people know how to control body fat, and they arent doing it on atkins. I think it is essentially a modified atkins approach--and an approach that works.

As a general rule, if I am wanting to lose fat I will go 5 days of high protein and fat, with low carbs (under 30 grams per day--and eaten early in the day). Then on the 6th (and sometimes 7th) day I will alternate and eat high carbs/high protein and LOWer fat. The exception will be the meal I consider my "cheat" where i will eat what i want.

This will work, I promise you. And you will get to satiate your cravings. And you will have more energy for workouts. I recommend you get some ketosticks and figure out how long it is taking you to get back into ketosis, and stay there a couple of days before a carb day, then you will have a schedule you know that your body will responde too. Furthermore, make your carbs healthy ones--rice, oatmeal, vegetables. Avoid breads, sugar and junk food.

If you want help with an individual diet and you are sincere I will be glad to help you. Just send me an inbox message describing your build, weight, height, goals and general physical condition. ALso, include a list of the foods you like and I will give you a suggested diet of what I would eat if I were you.

Good luck.

I followed GCL's advise and lost unwanted pounds in short order. Also, this style of diet is very easy, especially if you use the weekends as carb days.

Okay, I am withdrawing my offer to assist anyone with diet tips. The following message was in my inbox:

Individual Diet Help Needed ?
GCL, per your post on Diet Help I hope you can help me? Age 57 - Height 6'3" - Weight 240 lb - Health Condition: Probably Poor - Heart Attack, Quad ByPass - Diabetes - Smoker - Food Likes: Spaghetti, Pasta Items - Steak etc. - I ALSO LOVE PUSSY (Blondes especially). Do you think you could help me? I'll be seeing you shortly so see if you can work out a diet plan for me for my trip Buddy? - ps - I also like Beer/Wine sometimes. HELP-HELP-HELP - Hemp
(Oh yeah - I am a man of my word (remember) and I will pick up your bar tab for a day (women excluded)you BASTARD.

Reply from Personal Trainer GCL.

Hemp you fat, oversexed bastard. Well, I am assuming you arent oversexed at the moment. In any case, I will be looking forward to your visit here. However, I absolutely will not under any circumstances assist you in extending your already overindulged life. - GCL

GCL
Ok that does it, you lost your Bar Tab for the day. How dare you publish my personal statistics. Is there no confidentiality between Doctor and Patient. Now the whole world knows I love Blondes. - Hemp

ANy hints on where to find ketostix?

Ebay.cock

I pick them up there for about 5 fucks
beats the store prices which can run 3 to 4 times that

Good Luck Bookguy
Milkguy

Any local Pharmacy should have them. They are behind the counter so you have to ask for them.

Yea, Xenono is right. Ask the pharmacy. Then you pee on them and they turn color. Should make for hours of entertainment for the likes of hemp.

Rich

I thought he was asking about alternative places to find ketostix

Bookguy - Do you have the updated version of the Atkins book ?

For those who dwink diet sodas with Aspartame or use Sweet and low or equal that has the same Asp. that will deter weight loss. i didnt realize that! I thought it was just unsafe.

Week 3 and i am down about 8 pounds which is ok I guess but i really wanted to be 10 pounds lighter by the 3rd week.

I am guessing this has something to do with it.
i am working out everyday and jogging pushups and situps and jacking off. So i was hoping for better results.

3 more weeks until the big bash and i hope I will lose another 10 pounds by then

Today I am weighing in at 165 1/2

Good Luck guys
Milktub

Milk,
Try not eating after 8 pm. And do your excercise in the morning prior to eating breakfast. You will see very quick results.

Hi GCL

I eat supper around 6 ish and do my workouts around 1 ish and 8ish

my sleeping habits are a lot better now before i would sleep around midnight and now i am getting to bed sooner than Ben 930-10pm

I will do the early morning workouts too !!

i am trying whatever I can
thanks
Milkconleche

If you havent eaten since 8 pm the night prior, then your body is in fat burning mode in the mornings. If you can excercise prior to eating breakfast it will make a big difference. You really dont need to excercise 3 times a day. However, as long as you arent overdoing it it shouldnt hurt. And I hate to say this, but lay off the Milk MCL.

Yeah, dawn workouts are the best for weight loss, I've found. They're also the worst for muscle tone, because your (my, at least) glycogen stores are so low. I get out there and just feel ... dopey.

And I'm not a morning person. I must have some sort of sleep apnea problem, because no matter what time I go to bed, I prefer sleeping to 11:25 am. It's that last two hours after the sun has come up, when I finally get that stoned-to-the-world drooling-on-the-pillow feels-like-I-just-worked-out-I'm-so-winded deep REM sleep. Love that stuff ... doesn't fit in with a job, but I love it none the less.

Oh, it's all so complicated ...

I love Atkins. Lost 23 pounds on it in about 7 weeks. I drink 3 atkins shakes, 1 for breakfast, 1 for lunch and 1 in the afternoon and have steaks or chicken or other great dinners during the week. On weekends I eat 3 meals--Atkin's style. Usually Atkin's pancake breakfast (love 'em) with bacon or sausage and eggs, smaller lunch and bbq dinner. I work out at lunch time 4 days a week, and run at night 2 days a week. I am looking real good thanks to Dr. Atkins.

BTW--There's tons of great substitutes for the things you loved, but think you can't eat now. Let me know if you are missing anything in particular and I probably have a good substitute. You can find some great recipes and other products on www.lowcarbeating.com. (And, if you are missing chips, consider pork rind products--there's like 16 different varieties from sweet cinnamon and sugar like Taco Bell Crispas to Nacho Cheese or Ranch.)

My fellow hombres; start to build muscles today!
It gives you very soon a feeling of malehood, so strong that you can resist the most stunning women, simply because your mind tells you, "I look much better than she does, she should be paying me!".

Not to be misunderstoood. Bodybuilding results after, let us say 3 month, creates a new situation in which I and the most of us hombres can lower prices and thereby create a better marketsituation.

hi guys
Well week 4 and I am down 11 pounds.
My tub must be hard to drain !!
2 more weeks until the big fiesta and i want to lose at least 10 more pounds.
Well I guess realisticly I should be happy with 5 or 6 less pounds by then.

I finally tried the Hansens diet dwinks and they are friggin great !! The diet ginger-ale tastes like non diet.

Thanks rasta for your info too

""I look much better than she does, she should be paying me!".

They always pay me

Well good luck guys
Milk2percentphat

Yeah, you gotta love the Hansens diet drinks, and I agree the Ginger Ale doesn't taste any different than non-diet. Trader Joe's is the place to get this stuff if you have one in your neighborhood; much cheaper than your typical supermarket. By the way, I found another diet drink with Splenda that works well with the diet: "Fruit20." (Fruit Two Oh). Basically, flavored, non-carbonated water. The raspberry and the lime are very good. One version Fruit20Plus also has vitamins and immunity system boosters (such as echinacea) thrown in.

I'm going to start avoiding "diet" sodas that use anything but Splenda, as well -- no Hansens around here. So, all that I'm allowed from a convenience store is an unsweetened Lipton tea, and even then there's the caffeine. Sometimes Atkins is a pain in the ASS!

Costco is also carrying Hensen drinks these days and it is cheaper than Trader Joe. Costco is also carrying another drink made with Splenda called Talking Rain, a flavored beverage like gatorade. It taste and looks like gatorade and has many flavors. I like it better than Hansen diet sodas but this drink is non-carbonated so I switch between Hensen and Taling Rain. I just looked at the Taling Rain bottle and it has a website address: www.talkingrain.com, I have not checked out the website yet.

Now on a different note, I have been on induction for four weeks now, the very first week I lost 8 pounds and since then I have not lost any. I have not gained the 8 pounds I lost the first week but I should be losing more weight as I am still in induction and following all the Dos and Donts. Anyone has any idea why I am not losing weight after the very first week.

I don't mean to be a wiseguy, but maybe you're eating too much. Regardless of the diet, eating fewer calories than you burn always helps