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By book_guy on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 01:17 pm:  Edit

I thought I'd suggest to the monger community a few new things I've picked up that make my life a lot easier.

I hope the rest of you share some of your stuff. I am perpetually looking "dissheveled" and can't quite figure out how to beat the game. Should I be spending more money on having my clothes pressed? It seems the edges of my hair are all wonky -- pictures I've seen of male models are much more clean and neat. Like, the edges are painted or something.

My first suggestion is how to shave better. I have fairly sensitive skin and I've always had a hard time having to shave every 24 hours for work. It just can't be done without extreme bleeding and stuff. Further, my beard hair grows right down my neck to connect with my chest hair (hey, so I gotta lotta testosterone! at least it's not all over my back!) so I have to shave the sensitive neck skin right down to the collar bone. Here's how I've figured out how to solve these problems.

1. Use Kiehl's "Squadron" www.kiehls.com shaving cream (I don't use their scented varieties). It comes in either a jar or a tube, and does not foam up. It's about the consistency of old toothpaste, and is like the stuff they used to use in the trenches in those old WWI movies (but it works only OK with a mug and brush). You can get it at Earthsaver's and similar places. Tell a novia to buy you some, cuz it's $16.95 a shot. You just smear it on. Always wet the beard well, steaming it, before shaving. Always shave in the direction the hairs grow.

2. Use Neutrogena alcohol-free after-shave toner. This went off the market for a while but is now back, and solves many of my problems, basically. I find the other new Neutrogena products don't work, and seem to be designed for adolescents -- there's benzoyl peroxide, which dries out zits, in their shave cream. The LAST thing I want is DRIER skin.

3. Use antibiotic ointment -- like AAA cream, or Neosporin -- on the little bumpy hair places. Those little red bumps are actually infected hair follicles that have become irritated because, as your razor sloughed off the upper layer of dead skin, you exposed part of them and they weren't ready to defend themselves from the elements. Use antibiotic to help them out a bit. (PS -- I am wondering if anyone would like to go into the antibiotic-plus-alcohol-plus-fragrance business with me ...)

4. Use an electric that is excessively close, to the point that it exfoliates just like a blade. I use a Braun 4500 series, I think, and alternate it with blade shaving. I keep it clean with an air can designed to help you clean your PC keyboard. Manage the battery properly, by never recharging until after you've run it down to empty first.

5. Shave every 36 hours rather than every 24. For a regular business week, it works like this (where "toner" means Neutrogena brand, and "fragrance" means standard after-shave-style men's scented alcohol stuff of whatever flavor you want):

.Sunday night late before bed, shave with blade and apply toner
.Monday morning, apply fragrance
.Tuesday morning, shave with electric and apply toner and fragrance
.Wednesday during noon lunch break, shave with electric and apply toner
.Thursday morning, apply fragrance and some extra fragrance; don't shave all day
.Friday morning, shave with blade and apply toner and fragrance
.Saturday, don't shave (although I am able to stand an electric by about lunchtime, I need to wait in anticipation of Sunday's restart of the whole process)

This system will have you at your best most mornings. You only have to bring to work your electric razor, a little jar of Neutrogena toner, and a washcloth, for Wednesday lunchtime. The ablutions become the center of the week. :-) Thursday you will be the worst-looking of the five days.

6. As a last resort, if you get those painful bumpies, you can calm and seal them with anti-perspirant. That's right ... by the way, I learned that from a stripper's website. It's how she deals with her bikini line when she's at work.

Can anyone chime in with other suggestions? I'm particularly interested in how many men are into the whole "revitalizing" and other regimens sold to us by the fashion industry; and how you go about fixing up your wardrobe. Mine is nice stuff worn un-nicely.

By Khun_mor on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 04:06 pm:  Edit

Dude
I just SHAVE every morning-3 minutes or less- and my face is fine .
Not sure I understand the necessity of turning a simple daily act of grooming into a religious ceremony !!!!!

By Murasaki on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 06:15 pm:  Edit

Sorry dude, but I'm laughing my ass off reading this. Don't know whether to interpret it as a joke or not, but god it's funny. Is this shit for real?

BTW, you wouldn't happen to have another handle on this board, would you? Your writing looks suspiciously like someone else's style.

By book_guy on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:04 pm:  Edit

Dudes, you don't understand. I CAN'T just shave real quick like. I WISH I could.

Believe me, that whole rigamarole is as annoying to me as you seem to think it would be to you. So, it's only by force of the fact that my skin is so sensitive, that I've had to go so far out of my way to make shaving a bearable procedure through all those genuflections. If you have any suggestions for how to minimize the trips to the dermatologist, the impromptu bleeding at four in the afternoon from skin I thought had been entirely uncut, the sudden rashes that ooze pus ... hey, please share, I'm game. :-)

PS, no, I don't have any other name here, sorry to disappoint. I have had many names on other boards, but I'm now trying to reduce all my mongering internetting to the one nick that is somehow of the form seen here. If you need, you can double-check me by emailing the nick at-yahoo-dot-com and I'll mail back to confirm that I've held that Yahoo address since free web-mail was invented.

By Khun_mor on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:11 pm:  Edit

Well then I guess-- thanks for sharing ! If there are other Hombres with your problem I'm sure they will appreciate your suggestions. I have a relatively sensitive face but have never had the degree of problem you apparently have. If your post was serious , I appologize if I offended you my friend.

By Khun_mor on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:12 pm:  Edit

I also appologize for my sppelling !! Lol

By Murasaki on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 11:17 am:  Edit

Wow, you have my sympathy. That was such an exhaustive piece on shaving that I thought it was well-crafted farce. Sounds like you have the bases covered!

By Robert Johnson on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 12:16 pm:  Edit

I might try at least one of these tips, on what type of electric razor to use, mostly to try to get a really close shave. Even after having recently shaved with much care, I have had a few gals complain that I was giving them a sandpaper-like rub, in the heat of the moment. Embarrassing, and not conducive to one of my favorite parts of sex, kissing.

I don't have too much of a problem with facial rashes from close shaves. Sometimes, after, for example, a straight-edge shave by a barber.

If others have suggestions for close shaves (literal!), except by blades, I'd apprecitate your alerting me to your post, as this is not a part of the board I usually read.

avisar2004@yahoo.com

By Kendricks on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:28 am:  Edit

Does anyone have any asswiping tactics they would like to share?

By I_am_sancho on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:58 am:  Edit

If you shave your ass crack, it is much easier to wipe.

By T_bone on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 01:34 pm:  Edit

Howard Stern often talks about asswiping and the biggest tip I have gleaned from that is that when you have a really messy growler use a babywipe/wetwipe of some sort - really helps clean out your sphinter and saves T.P.

By Kendricks on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 03:21 pm:  Edit

Do you shave your asscrack with an electric razor, blades, or a straight razor? Has anyone ever tried Nair or waxing?

By book_guy on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:15 pm:  Edit

Sitting in a bucket of Nair For Men works best, I find, if you really want to get at those scrawny little buggers right UP your asshole closest to your clitoris. :-)

By Ldvee on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 05:43 am:  Edit

I shave my ass every morning. It's easy for me. I just look in the mirror as you would normally, and there it is. I'm SURE you all understand after my reading my investment advice and views upon the war. 8^).

By Masterater on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:13 am:  Edit

Masterater's Ass Grooming Technics:

1.- When taking a dump, (make sure you haven't unloaded yet), stick a mirror inside the toilet with one hand,and get a good view of the area between your balls and ass crack, (that's where the little fuckers grow).

2.- Once you're in a good and comfortable position, with a good view, take a pair of good Stainless steel Swiss Scissors with your other hand.

3.- Start triming and cutting the hairs reaching as far as you can go. DON'T use a blade and shave this area, just trim, if you shave, you will have an unbelievable itch for a couple of days.

4.- Once your done with the area between the balls and the crack, you can release your load and clean up. (Like T Bone says, Baby Wipes have been my best friends for years now).

5.- If you want to continue with good grooming, you can start triming the little fuckers on your balls. Be very, very careful not to get a piece of ball skin, it hurts like hell and you'll find yourself screaming like a little girl when it happens.

Don't try to do all this in just one dump session. Do it in three or four sessions, and then just do maintance every other day.

Love you guys,

Masterater

By Kendricks on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:26 am:  Edit

I always keep my ball hair trimmed. I think most girls really like a neatly trimmed sack better than one with long straggly hairs on it. Having your ball hair trimmed also increases your chances of having your balls sucked, imho.

By Catocony on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 12:03 pm:  Edit

Don't forget the most important thing - trimming your pubes does make your dick look bigger. So does getting handjobs from Oriental girls with small hands.

By Dickjohnson on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 02:50 pm:  Edit

Yeah sure. Use a pair of really sharp scissors(preferably those with pin point tips used for trimming nose hair). Use a mirror to trim your nuts and ass hair. It's very easy to coordinate this way. Just be careful not to poke the nutsack or family jewels or the nut juice will flow out.

By book_guy on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:13 pm:  Edit

Aw Jeeezus I was hoping for some legit grooming advice ... I guess it's as much my fault for expecting civilized discourse, after offering that clitoris comment ... :-)

By Gringobob on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:56 pm:  Edit

This is some of the funniest reading I've done in some time. You guys are classic.

By Dickjohnson on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:46 pm:  Edit

The best shaving lotion by far is pussyjuice. Try getting some pussyjuice smeared on your chin when eating her out. After that you can get a real clean shave with the natural moisturizing effects of pussyjuice.

There's an even better shaving lotion and that is pussycum. If she orgasms and squirts try saving some of that stuff. I keep them in my freezer in rubbermaid containers.

DJ

By book_guy on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 08:21 am:  Edit

You jest, but I have actually heard of couples keeping a jar of cum (like, male semen, barf) in the shower to use as hair conditioner.

By Curious on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:30 am:  Edit

I have used a product for some time that was suggested to me by a working lady at the Sagebrush Ranch in Nevada.

It's made by Seiko, and is called a bikini line shaver. The only real downside to it is that it runs on a battery, and as the battery weakens the shaver doesn't work as well. I use 2-4 batteries per month. (Standard C cells).

It is designed to be used every day - it only shaves short stubble, not longer hairs. Also, be sure to use powder with it.

Here is a link: http://www.totalshavingsolution.nu/mt8000.asp#

It gives you that soft as a babys bottom kind of touch!



By I_am_sancho on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 11:53 am:  Edit

I have cum in my girlfriends hair before and it is no hair conditioner. When she showered afterworld it kind of gelled up and caused her hair to tangle and then she said not to ever cum in her hair again but of course you know I did, and every time the same result.

As for shaving, why yes, I do shave the base of my cock, my nut sack and my ass crack at least once a week. Use a BIC razor. Works great. Tried my Norelco electric once and the results were unpleasant and slightly bloody. Shaved base of cock is great for goin' deep and the chicas do seem to be more likely to suck your nuts if they aren't a big hair ball.

You guys in Thailand.... Why do you shave yourself? Lady should do this for you.

By Dickjohnson on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 03:05 pm:  Edit

Don't shaving makes your hair harder and prickly like you have a porcupine between your legs?

By Wombat88 on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:38 am:  Edit

Shave in the sauna and steam room.

Whether at the gym prior to a night on the town, or in the better clubs, get yourself into a sweat. Apply a little bit of shaving cream and have at it. You don't even need a mirror for the most part. Shave your face in the sauna and use the bathroom mirror outside to take care of the trimming. While you're in the sauna, just run your hand over your face to locate stubble, then run the blade over them. I use a small pan or towel to clean off the razor. This is the closest shave I can get.

By Wombat88 on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:50 am:  Edit

Try Gillette's Mach 3.

I snickered uncontrolably when this 3-blade razor was introduced. I mean, seriously, what's next? A 4-blade razor from Bic followed by a 5-blade from Wilkinson? Was this to be the start of a stategic razor arms race?

When a pal insisted I try it, he went so far as to put his money where his mouth is and gave me one. Well, I just *had* to try it then. Well, now I own three of the damn things and they're the best I've ever used.

I have my doubts about the 3 blades gimmick, but the design itself is excellent. The shape of the head, the glide strips and the position of the blades really, really works. Furthermore, where I could only get about two-weeks worth of shaves out of a good blade (and that was stretching it), I can go for a month with the Mach 3 (your milage may vary).

By StrikeEagle on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:51 pm:  Edit

I’d agree with Wombat88 about the Mach3. Sounded like a marketing scam to me, but the system really does work well. Costco and Sam’s Club seem to have the best price on the cartridges.

I’m going to chime into this discussion with the products I’ve found to work well.

Book Guy seems to have a fair amount of trouble with skin irritation and shaving bumps. Most of this kind of trouble comes from the same skin conditions that cause acne; poor skin exfoliation, clogged pores, and superficial bacterial infection. Given this, it’s best to treat shaving as part of regular skin care. Yeah, I know this all sounds a little ‘foo-foo’, but for those who have skin trouble, it can be a real pain. Imagine going into a major client meeting with a giant infection on your face! NO BUENO!

Back when I was in college, Clinique first came out with their “Men’s Product Line”. I gave it a try and have used their product ever since. Over the years, I’ve tried different shave creams and face scrubs, but I still come back to the Clinique line, because it works. You can get the products at pretty much any major department store and in the scope of things; the price isn’t all that great.

Here’s the program I use:

I start off with the Face Scrub in the shower a couple of times a week. This stuff is a gritty cream that scrubs off all of the crap that builds up on your face. You can use it more often than a couple of times a week, but I don’t personally feel the need to do so. It’s pretty strong stuff.

On the days when I don’t use the face scrub I just wash with regular soap. Yes, Clinique has special soap, but I don’t see much difference in using it vs. my normal soap.

For shaving, I use the Clinique Cream Shave. (NOT the M-Shave gel, which makes my face far too ‘gooy’) The Cream Shave will not foam up upon application. It’s a cream almost like the stuff Wombat described. I’ve tried to apply it with a shave brush, but found little benefit in doing so. Just smooth it on wet skin and shave away. The Cream does tingle a bit as you shave. As for price, a single tube lasts me 3-6 months and is far less expensive than regular shave cream for me.

Oh, if I happen to nick myself the cream seems to help stop the bleeding. If the cream doesn’t stop the bleeding, I dab a little Alum on the cut and the bleeding stops quickly without any stinging. (Yep, this is the plain Jane Alum you can get at the grocery store.) This is FAR better than any of those pencils or any other ‘trick’.

That’s it for me. When I was younger and had more oily skin, I also used the Scruffing Lotion, which is basically a skin toning fluid that you smear over your face via a cotton ball or such. If you have problems breaking out with pimples, this is good stuff. It comes in a variety of strengths so ask one of the gals for help in picking the right one. Trust me on this! You do NOT want to pick one that’s too strong! As it is, the ‘correct’ formula will feel like it’s burning your face off for the first few times you use it. But, this stuff will keep your pores clean and your face clear.

At the end of the day, this system gives me the closest shave I can get while keeping my face clean and clear. Good for business, and good for my ‘fun’ in the bars.


Chok Dee,


StrikeEagle

By Indyla on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 05:47 pm:  Edit

I gave up on shaving five years ago. I now sport a short and trimmed beard. My case of barber's rash turned into a daily ritual shaving and bleeding. After a few years of this torture, not to mention intolerably sensitive skin the rest of the day, I said 'f_ck it. A beard it is.'

At 6'8'', I really don't care how appearances are assumed to relate to a personality. Just doesn't bother me. I am well aware that I resemble a Russian mafia character, but it doesn't phase me anymore. Hey, it keeps the salesmen away ;)

I have tried every lotion, cream, shaver, razor and treatment under the sun. If you guys can come up with something new that works for someone in my face, I would be willing to try it. But I am not holding my breath. I am quite used to my beard now. And... no complaints from the chicas.

By book_guy on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:33 am:  Edit

Good advice from people, thanks!

For me, the skin bumps don't come from lack of exfoliation or from bacterium, but from naturally sensitive skin. It's just a bit more allergic, a bit more sunburn-prone, a bit more everything -- nothing major, but shaving is just another drop in the irritation bucket. In fact, if I moisturize regularly, then shaving is even more irritating, because the skin is, again, "soft" and not able to defend itself against the assault.

As another example, the idea of shaving in the sauna is NUTS to me -- absolutely crazy. To get hot and sweaty will cause greater irritation, because the skin will "swell" and become soft in the heat. I do agree that the whiskers need to be wetted, so that they shave better. But otherwise, I do the opposite -- always make sure my skin and my razor are cold. In the summer, I actually bring a small bowl with some ice cubes into the bathroom in which to rinse the razor, since the "cold" tap water is only room-temperature at best.

I'll give the Mach 3 a shot. I'm currently a Sensor or Sensor Excel addict, but anything's worth a try.

And I've just heard that, relative to most electrics like Remington or Braun, the rotary-head razors (is that Norelco?) are worse for close shaving, but better for beards that have been let grow for 36 hours or more. Less skin irritation, perhaps? I'll try one out!

By Wombat88 on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:06 am:  Edit

Man, what a pain. Have you considered going with a Don Johnson Miami Vice look? It's not an 80's look any more as I've seen plenty of guys pulling it off with no problem.

Your neck will still have to suffer, but it's a small price to pay.

By book_guy on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 01:57 pm:  Edit

Tried it, didn't like it. I may in the future simply go to a close-cropped beard ... but my neck still has to suffer. And honestly, it's my neck that's the suffering part anyway, so a beard (whether "full but cropped" or "Don Johnson" is immaterial) kinda misses the point. My chest-hair connects, sorta, to my face-hair, so the line below which I don't shave is entirely determined by my own whim. Unfortunately, to look "cleaned up" I have to let my whim roam below my shirt collar, which means lots of irritation around the trachea. Maybe I should invest in tissue-lined turleneck sweaters ... or mink stoles ... or chicas to drape their arms around my neck ... or ...

By Kimokaze on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 04:25 pm:  Edit

ky jelly or the half price walmart equivelant is slippery and works great (for me anyways) YMMV.

By Catocony on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 05:35 pm:  Edit

I shave twice a day, electric razor only. Once a week, after using the electric, I break out the Mach 3 and do a quick foam shave to get the few stray hairs that escape the Braun and to smooth the skin. However, I can't use a safety razor on even 24-hour stubble. Way to painful for me.

I've used Braun since I was in high school and just switched over a couple of months ago to the new (just out in the last 18 months or so) Synchro razor. Kind of pricy, about $150 with the automatic cleaning system included, but the damn thing works wonders. Best razor ever. I use the cleaning system every other day and it does a great job as well.

By book_guy on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 11:41 am:  Edit

Catocony -- you and I effectively use the same system. I just "like" having a real shave with a metal razor and foam and soap, so I have managed to arrange a complicated lifestyle change to enable it more often than (what you report) once a week. I'll look into the Syncrho -- who makes it? And it does not go unnoticed that another person with sensitive skin recommends the Mach 3. I think we're developing a consensus ...

By Catocony on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 04:25 pm:  Edit

Braun makes the Synchro's. The cleaning system is the clincher - it's a charger and cleaner in one, takes about 15 minutes. It scrubs the blades and foil with this alcohol solution and then dries it.

By I_am_sancho on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 04:35 pm:  Edit

The best automatic shaver in the world is........ a Thai or Lao woman. They like there men clean shaven and smooth like a babies bottom but don't generally object to performing this service for you. With a strait razor if you are adventurous but you can just hand one of these ladies a can of shave cream and a bic razor and they will go right to work as well.

By book_guy on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:18 pm:  Edit

The best thing that has come of this thread, for me, is the suggestion to try the Mach 3. I am amazed at the difference, to the better, and am now realizing that a large portion of my previous irritation was caused by the fact that I had been using a Sensor Excel. Even changing blades every shave was still irritating with the Sensor.

The Mach 3 seems to have independent suspension on each of its blades, and somehow doesn't dig as deep as a Sensor. With the Mach 3 I note that my whiskers seem to grow back sooner -- which obviously must be because they weren't clipped as low-down under the skin as with the Sensor or Sensor Excel -- and that's a good thing, because it means less skin irritation.

Another odd thing is, the Mach 3 is attached at the end of the cartridge rather than the back. Basically, the Sensor allows you to "push" the razor into your skin, but the Mach 3 flaps around out there a lot more loosely, just because of the different angle of the hinge. I like that, as well.

Thanks to this thread I've almost become a shave-every-day guy. I'm on about a 30 hour cycle now, whereas previously I pretty much needed to be on 48 to 60 hours between shaves but had learned to reduce it to 36 to 40 because of social convention.

I'm delighted! Thanks for the advice! :-)

As a final bit, I've just tried a few brands of shave "gel", basically shaving cream that is the consistency of toothpaste and comes in a squeeze-tube rather than a pressurized can. Palmolive works fine, as good as the expensive Kiehl's mentioned by me in the start of this thread, and a real steal at $3.99 instead of $15.95 for a tube! The idea is to get something with as LITTLE air and foam as possible -- I suspect shampoo or (as another monger mentioned) KY Jelly would work good, too.

Some of these tubed shave creams are quite common in countries other than the USA, and always less expensive. I see them in Europe all the time. Wahoo! I'm just like a local!

So, Mach 3 with tubed shave cream is my new solution. Now what to do with the medicine cabinet full of half-used brands I experimented with ...

BG


(Message edited by book_guy on June 23, 2003)

By Epimetheus on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:58 am:  Edit

Just found this thread. Interesting...

I have ALWAYS had problems with shaving. If I shave two days in a row my throat is crimson. Blood and bumps never looked good when I was at work.

I too opted for the beard. You can get away with shaving every 2nd or 3rd day. What a country, eh?

I currently use the Mach 3 with the Neutrogena Skin Clearing Shave Cream for men. I also have a new Norelco shaver that was $80 at Costco and it works wonders!!

Tried the shave from the Thai girls on my last few trips and came away miserable and bleeding!! Of course, I'm too busy minding her boobs in my face to bother with noticing the blood until it hits the shirt...

Best shave in the world - a barber shop in Angeles City!! First time I went to this place he broke out the hot towel and straight razor. He was working on my neck and suddenly stopped. He remarked about my sensitive skin and was sorry for going to deep on one pass. The bleeding stopped shortly. After that I returned every day of every visit and had a GREAT SHAVE!! I go back mid-afternoon every day, get a great shave while watching all the ladies from the BJ bars walking back and forth, and chat with some of the girls too. The shave costs 60P (exchange is roughly 52:1) with tip and is the best deal running!! I never thought I could shave every day, but this barber does the best job on my beard.

As for the twigs and berries: laser hair removal!! Just finishing up a full course. Granted, it's not terribly convenient to run around with sunburned block and tackle for a few days (aloe vera lotion EVERYWHERE!!) but I never worry about ingrown hairs or the razor slipping!! It's tough enough to shave the bits and pieces when you're thin - I'm ROUND and so not terribly flexible. Just makes life easier. Besides, the lady doing my laser treatments is HOT with NICE BIG TITS!! Guess if a girl's gonna nuke your vittles and crack she might as well be hot!!

E

By Wallstreet on Friday, January 02, 2004 - 07:12 am:  Edit

Moved to a new thread

(Message edited by wallstreet on January 02, 2004)

By Robert Johnson on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 10:04 pm:  Edit

Re: Wallstreet's last post, on Jan. 02, 2004: What he meant was, the portion of this thread dealing with shaving pubic hair is now under a specialized thread, "Pubic Hair Grooming Styles Roll-Call."

By Countryjohn on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 10:38 pm:  Edit

OK. Since we're coming out of the closet (I mean bathroom) here, I want to get my 50 cents worth in and hopefully clear up some of the most obvious mistakes you gents are making.

I am a very white 49 yr old who developed a very thick and rustic beard over the years, kinda like the guy who had the TV show with the bear (I'll think of his name).

My skin was dry and flakey and started to itch real bad so when I parted the hairs and had a look inside, I saw my face peeling and all that so I was advised to get rid of the beard for a while and take care of my skin by keeping it clean and shaving properly so here goes.

It was so bad I had to take a fucking course in it (shaving). I learned a lot. I might never grow my beard again.

In order to soften my beard and protect my skin I always shave after a hot shower, never before, sometimes (very rarely) during.

For a close and comfortable shave I use what I call the "fi-blae-shabe" technique. For those of you who might not yet be familiar with that system, it was developed by myself using two razors, both gillette. One is a dual blade and the other is the Mach-3 three blade razor. When you add them both together you get five blades for a five blade shave or "fi-blae-shabe." Are you with me? Good.

Sorry to put you through that but it cracks my wife up every time I go into my fi-blae-shabe routine because I make a big deal out of it.

I always use hot water when shaving as it softens the skin and opens the pores while softening the beard.

Before shaving, I apply a "pre-shave" oil (The Art Of Shaving - New York, Pre-Shave Lavender Oil - 2oz for $20.00, lasts a long time).

I use a Silver Tipped Badger Hair Brush ($180.00) and shaving soap (any brand will do). The shaving brush will last forever. It generates a warm lather and lifts the beard from the face.

I avoid foams, gels or other products that contain numbing agents such as benzocaine or menthol which tend to close pours and stiffen the beard. Pussy juice however is quite another story.

The silly look one has on ones face after one has indulged oneself in such a heavenly delight need not be on the face of a shaved man. (You can quote me on this.)

I start out with the Mach-3 razor for the first pass over the beard. The number of blades seems just right to knock that bad boy down close to the wood comfortably.

Their new "Quattro" system or whatever they call it is a piece of shit. The blades are not strong enough and bend easily causing mis-cuts and fucking "ow-ies" all over the place. Don't waste your mongering money.

I am working on a "sis-blae-shabe" but more research is needed. I'll have to get back to you on that one.

I ALWAYS shave in the direction of the hair growth on the first pass. Shaving against the grain first can cause ingrown hairs and razor burns. These are not good things.

After the first pass with the grain using the "treeblae" (three blade), I re-lather using my silver tipped badger hair brush ($180.00) and hot soap. The second lather job feels good man, really good.

I then switch to my "tooblae" (two blade) razor and carefully backshave making sure the blade stays flat on the face (sideways and you gonna get cut man). I move the razor slowly but firmly like a squeegie, while pressing lightly on my skin.

After shaving I use a moisturizing after-shave balm (Art of Shaving, New York - 4oz for $35.00, lasts a long time too). This is great stuff gents. It is an antiseptic and is oil and alcohol free. The stuff is made with grape seed extract, shea butter, and vitamin C. Very healthy stuff.

I avoid after-shaves that contain alcohol which can irritate and dry out the skin, cause ingrown hairs, cause shrinkage of the balls, shortness of the dick, dripping from the nose, that sort of thing.

GRIZZLEY ADAMS!!

If I do bleed I use Alum Block.

Now you can go ape-shit and do a high end shave cream, but it will do little for the important post shave treatment so don't waste your money. Even though it smells nice and makes a nice slippery surface out of your face, the main job of the soap is to keep the hot water and moisture on your face so you can cut wit da blae.

You can also use an after shave mask if you skin is really fucked up....well...I mean if you have "issues," as it will rejuvinate and help purify your skin. It will also scare the shit out of your wife so might be worth a shot just for that!

The after shave balm is very very important. Now that's being really nice to your skin.

Wanna get a shave from the barber? Don't pay more than $25. for a traditional shave, $45.00 for a "royal" shave (this does NOT include your balls) or $45. for a traditional head and face shave. These shaves are done with a straight razor by a guy who really knows how but I can't vouch for how "straight" the guy is.

My wife likes to watch the "fi-blae-shabe." When done, my face feels like her thighs used to. She then wants to suck my face off becuase it is so smooth. It's all I can do to wrestle her head down to my dick when this happens.

I've had providers comment and smooche because my skin is so soft and supple. So I am happy with the results.

When I clean up, I AWAYS rinse and shake dry my Silver Tipped Badger Hair Shaving Brush ($180.00) which keeps it fresh and smelling like a badgers ass (the only drawback to this otherwise beautiful brush).

So there. Anal enough for ya? By the way, all this takes place inside 10 minutes and you don't have to dress for it.

I actually do the procedure I was carefully instructed to do by my grooming team. The results are terrific, I look 10 years younger. No shit.

So if you're sitting there in your double wide on your double wide with a 5 O'Clock shadow and want something to do that will make you beautiful, do this "fi-blae-shabe" routine and my friend, you will be transformed into a thing of beauty. Baby oil will do nicely for a pre-shave oil (just dab it on and work it around the beard -it doesn't take a lot).

I travel with a cheap shaving brush, no way am I gonna take my Silver Tipped Badger Hair Brush ($180.00) on the road, especially since I lost the last one my wife bought for me. I lost it in Albuquerque two years ago and I still hear about it.

Now, wiping my ass is a different story. Always front to back and always several yards of TP. I prefer "wet-ones" and several of them, if I'm gonna hustle for a rim job later on. Always be careful to clean the rim. Given the fact that your shit is about 80% pure un -refined and natural bacteria, you want to make sure to get it all off the rim. If you don't, it will irritate the skin and you'll be trying to scratch up the crack of your ass without anyone noticing and EVERYBODY notices. This is especially true if you have the runs. So scrub scrub scrub!

I've not taken to shaving my ass. I do trim my pubic hair as far back to the wood as possible without stubbles (which hurt the girl and sometimes pisses them off). I leave just enough to act as an abrasive when grinding against her hot wet steamy pussy. I use the same shears that paramedics use, you know the ones with the stubby ends? You NEVER want to stick yourself in the balls with barber shears. As anyone who has already done it will agree, it hurts like fuck!

So here we are at the end of the post, I thought of the bear guys name and you have some solid shaving technique.

Humbly Tendered As A Gift To Mankind.

Country John

By Butter on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 01:53 am:  Edit

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

By Murasaki on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 06:54 pm:  Edit

Has anyone been experiencing any problems with Mach 3 blades lately? I don't know if I got stuck with a bad bunch or what, but they are just not getting the job done anymore, and I may need to switch to something else. I'm just about through the last batch I purchased, and I'm not getting nearly as close a shave as I used to.

By Harold_johnson on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 07:41 pm:  Edit

I still use Mach 2 blades but, last time I was in Walmart buying blades the Mach 2 package came with two Mach 3 blades. Seems they use the same handle, anyway, I said what the hell and bought the package with the two Mach 3 sample blades. I had never tried the Mach 3 blades and after I did I thought they sucked and actually shaved worse than my Mach 2 blades. Still have the other one sitting there unused while it's almost time to buy more Mach 2s. Just my .02.

Harry

By Laguy on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 10:51 pm:  Edit

Murasaki: You have come a long way from being a deep skeptic about this thread to a true believer. Congratulations on your conversion.

I haven't had any problems with my Mach 3 blades, but then again I have been buying them in odd places, like Brazil. My question is about the Schick razor that has FOUR blades. Anyone tried these? Any advantage over the Mach 3? And, when can we expect a shaver with five or more blades? I am anxiously awaiting.

By Hunterman on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 09:01 am:  Edit

I don't know if it's the Mach 3 blades I use (Costco), or what, but I've had a couple of pubic hairs ingrown where I shaved. Anyone else had an ingrown hair problem that might be associated with the blades--or with the sensitive area shaved?

By Murasaki on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 08:23 pm:  Edit

LAG, I'll try the Schick 4-bladers and report back on the results. I've got to find a new blade, as Gillette has let me down.

By Xenono on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 09:25 pm:  Edit

You guys have all forgotten about M3 power, the new vibrating razor!

I half believe Gillette comes out with a new gimmick razor every two or three years to keep making money. But the reviews of the M3 power have been mostly positive.

By Laguy on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 10:54 pm:  Edit

Actually, I have had a "vibrating shaft" for my Mach 3 blades for a number of years. I bought it at Sharper Image and it works well. Sharper Image no longer makes the model I have; they replaced it with something markedly inferior that is not specifically designed for Mach 3 blades.

I was happy to see that Gillette now sells a vibrating shaft Mach 3 and I may add one to my collection. You just can't have too many vibrating shafts.