i also bareback fucked over a hundred prostitutes and never caught any disease.

They have shots for everything these days! Just look at my cousin Magic Johnson, he's healthier than most people I know.

Apart from standard STDs, oral sex is OK for men, although some of the STDs are rather pesky.

ViperX's claims about BB sex, however, are either bogus or crazy. Apart from the deadly diseases, there are plenty of other STDs that are extremely painful for me, but innocuous for women.

HIV is not transmitted by hetero-sexual sex.stop letting the propaganda brainwash you.you should be more worried about cancer and heart disease.

ViperX,

I guess that means the poverty in Africa and Cambodia is just a ruse. After all, those people were able to afford their heroin habits and frequent trips to gay bath houses.

Sterling

I think that main danger in ViperX barebacking all those girls is that he may actually procreate, which I think we can all agree on as being a bad thing

Just kidding Viper but seriously, are you some kid somewhere typing this stuff or what exactly is the deal with you? Your posts are pretty nonsensical and although some find you amusing, I still advise you do some more research on your medical claims.

i'm just doing my job as a man to ejaculate inside women.why do you think we are here in this world anyway? to sit home and watch sitcoms or jerkoff? lets be men and live life! theres nothing wrong with finding a sweet girl and filling her up with cum.it makes me feel satisfied and relaxed.condom sex turns me into an insatiable sex maniac.it does'nt satisfy me and the sex is forgetable.

"I also bareback fucked over a hundred prostitutes and never caught any disease." - Viperx

This thread should be called "Viperx's famous last words".

-Dick

ViperX, did you know that one of the long term consequences of syphillis is deterioration of the brain? The first symptom is this is loss of the ability to capitalize.

Let me explain this to ViperX in practical terms: you stick your dick inside some chica who just had sex with some other guy who DOES have HIV. She is just filled with that guy's spunk, and now you are in there, too. Unfortunately, your penis is basically wide open for little nasties to make their inside. The virus can even penetrate much of the tip of your penis, even if it doesn't take the obvious route.

If you are lucky, you will get STDs such as syphillis or gonorrhea. If not, please put me in your will.

Of course, the above scenario assumes that the chica doesn't have HIV, if she does, well, you're screwed.

sorry Explorer8939, i don't fuck your cum filled whores.i go for the fresh pussy and fill them up with my own cum.

You are a lucky dude viperx. I believe that is pretty uncommon.

ViperX = Kidcrisco ?

Kidcrisco = ViperX ?

Just a thought.

MA

I just wanted to say you can not contract HIV through oral sex, unless you have some kind of sore in your mouth or open cut. The reason is that HIV is a weak virus and the saliva in your mouth will kil the virus, unless you have the afore mentioned problems in you mouth. Also you CAN contract other STD's through oral sex.

Well Magic is one of the lucky one, I know more that wish they were that lucky

well, viperx I would agree if we were not talking about such a high risk sex partners. The fact are it is possible to get HIV hetero-sexual, and for sure much harder for a man to get it from a woman. That having been said all you need is an open wound and a person with HIV, and you could be next

Wow,
There is a lot of contradictory info on this post. I, too, love to munch, but I know the mouth is more sensitive to viruses and bacteria that other areas -- your lips are thin skinned. Opinion doesn't do me any good -- "Well, I ate it and I'm fine". A friend of mine several years ago met a "nice girl", in Virginia. They dated for a month, then had sex. (she had 3 previous lovers), He couldn't figure out why he was pissing steam. If it could happen to him, it can happen to me. SOOOoo...

I'm travelling to Brazil for a couple of weeks in late April or May. IS that a good time? I'm reading these posts and not sure what many (okay, any) of the abbeviations mean BBbj, Ba? Is there a list.

I admit I'm new at this.
And I'd like solid (scientific) evidence about oral. I'll post anything I find, anybody have anything SOLID?
Thanks,

There's a "Dictionary" link on the menu at the left, which you can use to get to a list of acronyms.

Actually, the mouth is a lot less sensitive. Saliva is pretty tough on the bad stuff. Of course, if you have open sores or something that's a different story.

Well, no post in over two years? Whats that say?

Nothanku, If I were you I would ask some true professionals, not a bunch of horny mongers,LOL.I wouldn't expect too much un biased info on here. There are dudes like myself who don't do it and there are ones who eat garota pussy like its the last supper.You will have to check some more reliable sources and make your own decision on wether its worth the risk.

I will admit to slipping nin the heat of passion a few times in Rio, but generally the thought of eating some chicks pussy after some other dick has been in there within the last few hours, turns me off,lol.No offense to the guys who do this, just my personal opinion.

peace

Why dont you ask a lesbian? They are the true professionals...........

Lesbians don't worry about their partner having just done 5 guys in the last 3 hours.

You can get a lot of things by eating pussy but nothing too serious.

Herpes is possible but not probable because the strain of genital herpes is different than oral herpes.

I generally don't unless the girl is shaven and has an absolutely clean cootch. No odors at all.

I give it a quick lookover to see if anything is glaring. If not, I'll take the plunge.

don't feed the troll....

re daty: i don't daty much anymore. i think mexico got me thinking all tuff now. lame. but, when i used to daty, i'd do a smell and visual check pretty quickly then dive in, but only after she showered herself up. there are always risks.

Wow, we must have some of the 26% of 15-17 year olds here that believe that you can't get HIV from unprotected oral sex, cited by the CDC in the publication below.

You can get HIV from oral sex (either fellatio or cunnilingus) and both have been documented, albeit it is a lower risk than vaginal intercourse, but don't take my word or that of anyone else here, read the following position paper by the CDC:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/Facts/oralsex.pdf

Sojourner
Did you read the paper or just the headline ?

Their documentation for their statement was " a few cases of transmission of HIV -- MOST LIKELY resulting from oral vaginal sex" .

Not exactly scientific method or proof. Is that the documentation you are mentioning ?

Even they said that the risk was EXTREMELY low compared to vaginal or anal sex- which is already low.

Besides I'm protected during oral sex cause I wear a condom at all times .

I know that there has been a lot of argument on this board about HIV and the hype. So I will tell you that I have a really good friend that is an AIDS researcher and an MD and I we have talked about this extensively. I trust him.

He has told me that HIV transmission requires volumes of fluid. Transmission from men to women is really easy through vaginal or anal sex. Transmission from man to man is easy through anal sex. The enzymes in your mouth (amalyse SP?) kills most foreign bacteria that enters your mouth, hence oral transmission is possible but extremely rare even by felatio. Note I don't say impossible, but only a handful of cases out of hundreds of millions if not billions. As he said, "not statistically significant".

He also stated that the most likely oral transmission would be if there were open sores in the mouth and still the volume rule applies. So actually the women are the one's at risk more than us.

That being said, I always use a condom during sex. I only DATY with those that appear to have no open sores anywhere, clean shaven, and fresh.

I personally know a gay man here in the bay area who has given blow jobs (and swallowed) to over 30,000 different men since the early 80's. That's in San Francisco. He has never gotten HIV. Knowing that, I NEVER worry about getting HIV from licking pussy.

Murasaki,

Have you ever let this guy blow you?

30,000 different ones, damn, how many is that per day? About 3-4?

Mura

That's just wrong ! Now you've ruined my dinner with that vision in my head.

Cato, why would you even think such a thing? Heaven forbid. He racked up those numbers in the gay sex clubs here. Couple of visits a week for 4 to 6 hours each time, gets in about 25 each visit. Sadly, it's the gay men who have all the fun here. For some inexplicable reason, equivalent clubs just don't seem to exist for the straight scene. Sigh.

In ZA our ex vise-president is up for raping an Aids positive dyke Aids activist and his defence is that having sex with her was his duty as a Zulu man when asked why he didn't use a condom he said that using a condom is an insult to women. The funny part is that when he was in power he was responsible for our Aids awareness campaign. Talk about mixed massagers

As I recall, you were recently suggesting that South Africa was a great alternative mongering destination.

Talk about mixed messages.

Hi Ejack
I do think that South Africa is a great destination for mongering as well as just touring, please check out my guide if you don't believe me.

That Zuma (ex-vice Pres) got fired for his actions, for me is an affirmation that South Africa has a future were else in Africa would this happen? Anyone dumb enough to have unprotected sex with someone they know has aids, is someone you do not want in public office. That he was responsible for aids education heightens his stupidity, aren’t there politicians out there that you think are to dumb to live?

The fact that Zuma is IMHO an idiot does not detract from my feelings about ZA, as I am sure those Americans who think Bush is an asshole, do not feel that that detracts from their view of the US as a whole.

ZA along with most mongering destinations from Rio to Thailand has an AIDs problem, you practice unsafe sex anywhere in the world at your peril.

OK

Isawel,

I think that Ejack's point is that the HIV rate is way too fucking high in SA to make it a mongering destination for most of us. Most of us have probably been just a thin layer of latex away from some form of STD-infected skank at one point in time or another. But, as far as units in SA would seem to me like going for a swim in a shark-infested swimming pool, instead of merely swimming off of a beach that sees a shark every now and again.

Just eat the damn thing and floss afterwards!

Copperfieldkid,
Really bad idea! Never floss soon before or after going down on a hooker. Rinse with an anti-bacterial mouthwash, wait 20-30 minutes then brush. Flossing immediately before or after oral sex raises the risk of exposure.

Murasaki,
No equivalent clubs for straight men in SF? You mean you don't consider a $150 handjob at New Century Theater a good deal?

BTW, have you all noticed that ViperX is no longer with us? Hmmm. One too many BB sessions?

BD

Bwana, you are correct, I was stating that "tongue in cheek", no pun intended! Yeah, that's all a guy needs is bleeding gums for a nice open access. BTW Sweet said you will be in Rio when I'm with him and hopes to introduce us...see you then

Yeah Bwana, not talking about P4P. Just a place where you pay an entry fee and everything inside is free; just find willing partners. We can only dream about that kind of joint.

Copperfieldkid,
Thought you might be kidding, but also guessed that a few guys might not figure that out, and think flossing really is a good idea.
BD

I do not DATY hookers. Mainly because there is a pretty good chance there could be some spooge in there no mater how good they wash it. Sucking up another man's spooge seems kind of gay to me. I guess that makes me homophobic. Anyway, if I'm paying money, I guess I'm a prick since it's all about my pleasure. I could care less if the lady gets off. She gets off when I pay her. As for catching anything other than a mouthfull of spooge, I'd say it is theoretically possible but WAY down there on your list of worries.

Sucking up another man's spooge seems kind of gay to me. I guess that makes me homophobic.

I think that goes more in the germaphobic category rather than homophobic. lol

I think that goes more in the germaphobic category rather than homophobic. lol

Actually splooge unless you have a prostate infection is sterile. As opposed to the seething nest of bacteria fungi and yeast it's deposited in .
I don't do sloppy seconds so I am not worried about this of course. Besides I got my condom on so I am immune to everything right ?

Eat up guys !! I know I will. Masarap

I actually get off having a pooying squirming and writhing all over the bed because I am taking her to places she has never gone before.

Hi Catocony

Point taken, but I would have to say that the chance of getting HIV from a pro in South Africa would be about the same or less then any where else in the would and a lot lower then in India for example. Aids testing is a big deal here and most places check there girls about once a month.
Its funny people forget that even though SA is third world our tap water is safer then the stuff that comes out of a tap in New York (World Health Org. Stat) our road are among the best in the world as are our private hospitals, and as for the mongering the selection is great and it is no Thailand but as a total tourist \ mongering packages it ain't bad.

The point that I was trying to make is that HIV in ZA for mongering is relatively low risk, key word being relatively.

No, I can assure you it's the gayness of potentally eating another mans spooge that scares me. I'm not worred about the germs at all.

A friend of mine here in Pattaya is currently treating a nasty yeast infection on his tongue (seriously) As is the nature of such maladies, it's almost impossible to pin point precisely how he contracted it. But, none of us are buying the story about how he picked it up from the soda straw in his cola.

Mc,

That ranks up there with "I got crabs from using a tanning bed/toilet seat in a public bathroom/hotel bed".

I read somewhere that your chances of getting HIV from vaginal sex with an HIV positive woman is something like 1 in a 1000. Anal sex is something different because of all of the blood vessels in the anus (Majic must have liked it that way, also Darren James is a great example). I typically don't DATY pro's and have done it only like twice and they were not really full timers. The thought of DATY with a termas gdp because of the volume of men...no reason to go there. I will say this about sex with condoms, I am not using condoms so much due to worry about HIV but more so because of skin diseases such as HPV and Herpes. Can't ever get rid of that shit and you can't hide it. When someone like ViperX has the pleasure of contracting some shit like that, I'm sure he'll change his stance on BBFS.

For the guy, the risk of HIV from a positive woman using no rubber isn't any different from anal or vaginal sex. The risk is the same regardless of the blood vessels. This is because there is no volume of bodily fluid necessary to transmit the disease to the man very easily.

The tranmission from man to women is very easy. The transmission from man to man is very easy, the transmission from woman to man is very difficult however not impossible.

There was a study done her in the US with males with HIV that were with partners with no HIV. The study was 100,000 people. They all used condoms 100% of the time.

Only ONE partner contracted HIV. Further study of those individuals determined that they did not RELIGIOUSLY use a condom. The study was published on the CDC website, so I believe its content.

There were also studies that showed transmission rates between lesbians where one partner was HIV positive, the other wasn't. The study stated that the transmission rate between these partners was not "statistically measurable". I believe that study is still on their website.