Posted by XMan on September 21, 2000 at 09:18:50:
In Reply to: Stages of Monger Development posted by XMan on September 18, 2000 at 10:02:46:
| Excellent followups, dudes. Certainly we all have have needs on many levels...physical, emotional, mental, and ultimately, spiritual. For some mongers that have kept things in perspective in TJ, growth can happen down there I think. However, it's much easier to digress. The booze, late nights, to much sex (is that possible? lol), depletion of your bank account, less sleep, the myriad STDs, and the inevitable addiction can bring a dude down hard, slowly but surely. On our side of the border, it can lead to strained family relations (especially if you're married), loss of job, DUIs, recovering from STDs, decreased self esteem. This is a possible downside. Again, not everybody goes thru these, and if they do, to varying degrees. These are just symptoms of addiction. Matiz, excellent reply. You are an excellent, lucid writer. From the way you post, you sound much older than me...the voice of experience, which I respect. My question for you would be how do YOU bridge the gap between contemplating growth/spiritual matters and acheiving it in TJ. In other words, by what vehicle or action does your growth come about. I may be much younger, but I've been force fed these issues at a young age (my homies don't even know of my unusual upbringing in the eastern traditions...and I don't plan on revealing my race. lol). You wonder if you can keep growing while fucking the same chicas and hanging in the same bars. Shaky ground if you ask me (but a fun one! lol). To have goals laid out and a vehicle to acheive them with confidence is more powerful. Daytimer, you seem to have had a great time over 30 years, never caught an STD with probably hundreds of whores (hard to believe but amazing if true! The new pockit test will let you know if you have herpes 2 at 96% confidence). My increased confidence with women for the same reasons has made me much more bold also (but hopefully not stupid! lol). You keep shit in perspective, know what you spend, and enjoy the fruits of your confidence. Right on! That $260 cab ride to the border sure did suck I bet! HorneyMike, I think celibacy is possible (but no fun!), but you would need a vehicle/method to rechannel the energy or it'll backfire. I know people that are celibate, but they don't come from the tradition you refer to. They are vibrant, healthy, and private, not preaching they are to the masses and then whacking off in the bathroom! That's some fucked up shit! lol Trumpet, all I gotta say is good luck dude! lol Budoka
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