Posted by Ritmo on April 15, 2001 at 14:51:24:
In Reply to: Response to Ritmo continued... posted by Porker on April 14, 2001 at 21:53:55:
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>WF is shameless and unapologetic about it, and exactly what am I supposed to do about it? Argue? Yell 'SHAME! SHAME!' at him? Rant and rave on the internet? I choose to sit back and watch karma in action. Do what ever the fuck you wanna do in response to it, and shut the fuck up about how I choose to respond to it. Howzat sound?
What the fuck ARE the "actual issues" if they ain't fuckups like WF usin' girls in often desperate situations for their own fucked up ends, and throwin' 'em away when they done? I gotta write a thesis on ethics to get Porky Pig's stamp of approval to talk on this? Or then wouldja just blast it for bein' too abstract and intellectual? I'm addressin' the problem as it shows itself right here, and ONCE AGAIN, if you don't like how I do it, then FUCK OFF. Don't read it. >If you think WF is the only Mexican bashing-woman hating-bareback That's like sayin' when ya hear one Nazi doin' his thang, if he's unrepentant about it, and even if ya know there's other closet Nazis out there (analogy chosen carefully--the regard for others Himmler had is probably about the same as the regard for the SGs WF shows in his treatment of 'em), ya should just shut up and let 'em talk, 'cause a "real debate" ain't possible. Go about thangs your way, and I'll go about 'em my way. >Westfargo to me is a cartoon monger. MY reaction to cartoons is Yeah, kinda like you "continue to try to pound home your perspective" on e.g., Explorer's naivete "INCESSANTLY"--I personally could get along JUST FINE without EVEN ONE MORE CHUNK A SHIT from the great TJ veteran and 'Borrachos' founder member Porky Pig tellin' others that they've got they head up they ass, but I just don't really give a fuck if you keep on postin' that shit, 'cause I know I don't have ta read it. One more difference between me and you.
Well, look here, Porks, I can't say nothin' about whatever problems you have gettin' attention from chicas, but you the first dude here that's had that reaction to what I say about the girls, and so that tells me that this is most likely about you, not about what I'm sayin'. Anybody that reads what I say witout the blinders you obviously wearin' (based on what? still pissed off about the HIV thing? or by the fact that I'm gonna write how I want to and I don't give a muthafuck if you like it or not? or just by the fact that not everybody has the same low level of success you obviously must be havin', judgin' from your reaction to me and from what some of ya former homies say about ya?) will see what I'm sayin' there pretty clear. It ain't about Brother Ritmo bein' the only one wit game, much as you wanna read it that way--yes, I'm gonna be honest, I got some game, and I like to TALK to the chicas, and I speak Spanish pretty fluently, and I genuinely LIKE and RESPECT these girls (unlike our friend WF), and these things MATTER in terms of success in TJ, and they's all thangs a brother can work on and CHANGE if he wanna. That seems to me one of the points of a list like this--brothers wit some experience (and I got some--not the most on the board, but SOME) tryin' ta share tips, info, names of nice chicas with brothers wit less experience. Ask brother K. (the dude my post about SGs was to--it wasn't to YOU, bro) if he read it like you did. I bet not. This is YOUR problem, bro--deal with it, and back up off me. >But the remarkable thing about the real deal is that they NEVER brag. I ain't "braggin'", just relatin' reality. And false modesty--ain't got no time for it. If ya got it, flaunt it, and if ya got it BETTER, flaunt it mo' better.
Speak fo yaself. Don't try to turn 'Porky Pig' into 'the rest of us,' 'cause I didn't have nothin' to say about 'the rest of us.' If you ONLY gettin' fly-watchin' from every SG you do, then in my view, either you ain't tried enough to get a wide enough sample of possibilities, or you doin' somethin' in your approach and/or selection that's makin' that outcome more likely (like I said in the note), or you got handicaps that I can't say nothin' about (fat, old, ugly, bad breath, whatever--much as some dudes, like you, apparently, don't wanna hear it, that stuff matters in this biz--fuck, even WF admits that most of his success is attributable not to his mad game, but to the fact that he's got movie star looks). The fact that you so willingly misread my post is just more ammo for the idea that you just bitter about ya own failure ('consistently raging good times' is yours, dude, not mine--I said some, not ALL, but SOME of these girls will give up the goods, if you work it right, talk to 'em, don't treat 'em like a spermbank, and ain't carryin' 200 extra pounds or a third arm). We done went through this nonsense of Porky Pig thinkin' he can read the 'real, subtle' meaning of Ritmo's words back when you was on ya hysterical highhorse claimin' wit no evidence, and despite my own words, that I was promotin' BBF just 'cause I doubted the orthodox data on female-to-male HIV transmission. More about delusions in ya head than what's really there, and the fact that nobody but YOU (and esp. not the dude I wrote the note to) sees it as me claimin' to be a 'uber-monger' is the real proof. Keep ya Aryan Nation terms to yaself, PorkChop. I didn't say I got nothin' more than nobody else got, or can have, wit a little effort. Learn some Spanish, get in the gym and lay down the bag a Doritos, take a deep breath and count ta 100 before you become Obnoxious Porky Pig wit whoever ya interactin' with, and I betcha you a do a lot better. > I don't know shit about your status as an The 'lion's share of mongers' don't speak Spanish and ain't studied the SG situation the way some dudes have. I spend a HUGE amount of my TJ time outside, wanderin' around, talkin' to the girls on the street, learnin' about they lives, 'cause I'm interested in that. If dudes ain't interested enough to do that, no beef from me, everybody got different agendas. But when they go from that to sayin' good SG experiences is non-existent or nearly so, I step up and say "nope, it ain't like that". All you gotta do is take ya head outcha ass and look around on this board and at old Redsnake threads to see that there's a significant number of brothers that spend LOTS of energy on SG science, and the dividends come in because of it. Don't hate brothers 'cause they done work you too lazy or uninterested to do. >Instead of even considering the differences in the I just said what I think is the problem for most newbies with SGs. It's just false modesty and weak to think ya don't know somethin' more about somethin' that ya spend a LOT of time with, when most brothers don't spend no energy on it. Kinda like havin' a degree in somethin' but bein' afraid to say "I MIGHT know more about this subject than people who ain't never studied it--JUST MAYBE." It ain't no insult to the newbies, or to dudes that ain't put in the work--it's just statin' the facts. >Again, What, you a psychiatrist now, dude? Gimme a fuckin' break witcha rationalizations. "Megalomania," in my book, might include mufuckas who think, just 'cause they been around forever (and even make up part of the mythology of Redsnake, if only as one of the parties responsible for its collapse), that gives 'em a right to step in to every discussion and be referee, give people the 'real scoop,' 'smack down the trolls,' etc. You ain't never won no damn election, dude, and when we DO have one, I sure ain't votin' fo yo ass, 'cause I done seen where you comin' from and I don't like it.
More Porky Pig "megalomania". Like I need YOU to evaluate whether or not I got any "rational thoughts." Save this shit for Explorer and other guys you can intimidate, bro. It don't work on me. >But hopefully you will take HA! So after ya tell me that I'm a loud-mouth asshole, a megalomaniac who's probably lyin' about everything he posts re: chicas, etc., the pussy conclusion: just a criticism, not a vendetta. Whatever.
Ain't never seen no 'Porky Pig minimum standards for posting style' on the list FAQ, so I don't really care whether you like how I write or not. And you can see what I had ta say to tacoguy for details. >It doesn't tend to generate warm fuzzy responses Well, not from dudes so deep stuck in obnoxious they can't even see the way out--from dudes that think every time a brother ask him a question it's about 'baiting' him and shit. Not everybody reacts that way to this brother, as you mighta noticed if you wasn't so stuck up in the idea that Porky Pig is the arbiter of what's right on the TJBoard. Not everybody is playin' YO game, Porky, and one might expect you to have learned that at some point, bein' the old timey veteran of the TJ wars that you so wanna be, but you still ain't too good at gettin' outside ya own skin and acceptin' that what don't work for you might go down just fine for somebody else. Plenty of room on this list for both of us--I don't plan on dealin' withchu no more, suggest you take the same tack wit me. >If you truly wanna participate in DIALOGUE you may want Save ya preachin', PorkRind. I already got a dialogue wit some brothers here, and I don't mind if you don't wanna play wit me. Go play wit somebody else, or play witcha self, for all I care. You don't impress me no more than I apparently impress you--we'll both live. |
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