This is very entertaining and interesting to read:
During my research on German FKK clubs I found a link: www.roemerforum.de. All the stuff in there is in German, but I used www.freetranslations.com to translate this and it increased my appetite immensely to finally get on the plane to Europe. The posters name is Mike2401 and I have no idea how good the translation is:
Mike2401:
There are FKK clubs and other clubs. I prefer exclusively the FKK clubs (as for example Atlantis). The following description is considered to nearly all FKK clubs in the Frankfurt space, also Atlantis, BHH, Köbe and F35. Example ATLANTIS. Mad equipment, good ambiance, 2 saunas, jacuzzi, Swimming pool. You ring and after the first examination by the camera it is opened to You if You do not look just like Quasimodo or wave a Wumme. In the reception you pay 60, - € entry and then receive as a new guest the other Procedere explains.
In the entry are contained all comforts like all alcohol-free beverages, coffee, tea, chocolate, Monday, on Thursday and on Sunday also a warm Buffet. The use of the whole equipment like showers, pool, sauna is etc free of charge which had to pay of girl, however.;-) then You go from the reception to the covers, do Yourself "naggich", hang your Klamotten in the locker and go taking a shower and wind to You afterwards a towel round the loins. With the abandonment the covers you think, again in the reception room on the left the worth fields (small safe) where You can file your Chars, your watch(clock), your cigarettes and your Viagrapillen. The advantage in the Atlantis: The advantage in the Atlantis: it gives 2 sizes in the towels, 1 x normally size for hunger hook, (that are the white towels) and once the size
for correct men with Silikon belly (that are the green towels.)
According to physique kannste therefore select the correct towel. But no worry, you can shower 20 xs, gives towels it amply!
Therefore, equipped with the towel and Badelatschen, you go now in the really pretty club room, find a bar at the left page where you can
disconnected the first non-alcoholic Drink. Around you around and in the total terrain move (according to time) between 20 and 50 gravel naked,
without exception pretty and young Girls.
If you do not prepare yourself mental on that, haste here in this moment for the first time a pennant. What is however not bad, for on the sofas, at
the Poolrand, at the counter or where also always can stand each quantity of fellow, that get blown before the tränenden eyes of the public of a
sugar sweet Girl first once correctly one.
For,....
....... In the FKK club it is selected coached more closely comes itself usual, that one with his first once on ner per Smalltalk, and in favor bekommste
then, so to speak to the "angeilen" first of all sample half on the sofa or also at other public places ne orderly lesson in French, and that without
rubber! That is not crazy.
(Sorry, me tropft straight again the Sabber on the keyboard and my pair of pants becomes somewhat narrow, if I only on that would think!!)
Joke aside if you sit with a Girl on the sofa and they felled you, did not win it its same. If it first begins to blow you one, should you out of fairness
also with the lovely on the room pilgrim.
Before the first "blowing" and also after that there is gets yet each quantity of tongues kisses, one therefore thoroughly what
offered.
So, now we arrived therefore at the place where there are no back more. It blew very lecherous and sensual one, your Schniedel stands like ne one and you want with its on the room. But what do with the highly standing manhood?
No panic, you are in good company, I saw after such a prologue yet none, that with hanging tail on the room trottete.
You pare on now bashful your towel, try to press the tail with a free hand discreet after below (goes naturally not and sees anyway each,
therefore let it rather immediately remain).
The Girl goes ahead way, (naturally naggich as well as the dear God it created), you wobble look at afterwards with the greedy its rear. Now won me once
how in such a view your tail should calm itself. Impossibly!
Therefore, always behind the girl hergehen, it drives on the stairway to and highly goes it into the Bums palaces.
Now it can happen on the gear, get that you, so for further preparing, another couple of tongues kisses lecherous and then it goes from into a room.
Now you yourself must know, go on how it ;-)))
If you are then finished, you creep with the Girl again the stairway down and wobble with its to your value specialty. After the opening of the value
specialty,.. Stop!!! not what you think, now merely no Viagra throw in!!! then now must you for the giant joke, that you experienced previously, pay the
mine.
If you were a half hour with its on the room, there is a fifty. An hour costs 100,--.
All in addition after arrangement. After the paying, one should take then quietly a shower in order to wash off the baby oil and the sperm orderly, selects one a new towel in the suitable size (correctly, knows or green) and
proceeds himself again in the amusement room.
One can add himself now selectively with Cola or coffee, (how gladly would have I after such a number also once a beer drunk) or one goes into the sauna to the Relaxen, but Vorsicht!!! If in the sauna of girl sit, large danger exists that one gets blown immediately again one. Therefore
clearly, loudly and very clearly its intention announce: "I would like only schwitzen!!!!!"
One can show alternatively also its Schwimmkünste of the met team. The Pool is large enough, but also here feminine dangers can lurk behind the
artificial rock; -)
After the Relaxen and the again awakening of the lower masculine body parts, one could begin let now the game of ahead (or also of behind) with
other woman.
Generally the Atlantis and also other clubs makes extremely addicted! Therefore increased caution is mounted in each visit.
I remain wants to use as a rule in the Atlantis always at least 6 hours, one yes all possibilities and seek engage before all things that (next to the
last time were it 12 hours in the Atlantis, until that seeks away was.)
So, now I wrote more, actually wanted than I, but one must refer yes the young people already very clearly to the dangers ;-)))
It greets you all MIKE2401 whose pair of pants became in the letter now final too narrow.

FKK Atlantis
63674Altenstadt
Siemens street 4
http://www.atlantis-therme.de/

Robert,

This is a horrible translation. There is an english section in Roemerforum with significantly better reports. Also I am in the midst of translating a couple of FAQ's for two FKK's which I will probably post here in the near future.

However, as an experienced world traveller and hobbyist I can tell you that I have never seen anything that compares to Atlantis o Oase on a world scale. There are about 60-100 women there on a good night. There are women for all tastes, Latina, German, Turkish, Eastern European, Black and Asian. The prices are reasonable and the service is great. The atmosphere is similar to Termas in Rio, but the two clubs I mentioned above are much larger than anything I have seen in South America.

Robert, if you head over here let some people in Roemerforum know when and I am sure that you will find a scout who will show you the ropes.

Very good advice from Peter - Let folks in Roemerforum know. Don't feel shy about the food that's laid out - Eat

Hey Peter29 How do you access the English Section of roemerforum.de, I did not see anywhere on the Website where you could access that. Info would be Helpful,Thanks..

Trex,

On the Top Left there is an Age Check called Über 18 there you can give in your passport info and then you get let in to the other section. Then it is easy to find.

Thanks Peter, one reason I didn't get the English section is that I don't feel comfortable giving out my pasport number to them. So I greatly appreciate if you can get some info from there and post it here.

If you are scared then do what I did. Look at what you have to enter into the site, and see if you can find someone elses passport (if a colleague is going on a flight ask to see their Passport (to look at their picture, etc.) and remember the numbers and then write it down in private). The code at the bottom is not accessible for the companies, it mainly works based on the code at the bottom which lets them know in what year you are born.

I can see about cross posting, I'll check with some of the larger english posters.

I wrote a detailed trip repoert about my time at the FKK clubs Oase and Atlantis. For all who can't make it through the lengthy report, I put the essentials into a seperate post:

I went to two well-known FKK clubs in Germany, the Atlantis and Oase. Against better knowledge I engaged in unsafe sexual practices, like French kissing, daty and BBBJ. The girls are much more forthcoming than the chicas in ZN and one has a great variety of races and sizes (tall or short, not fat).
I did 6 girls, 4 at Atlantis and 2 at Oase. No session was bad; indeed on the TJ scale even the best would have counted as great. I spent $180 on cover for 3 days in FKK, $750 for 7 sessions, of those $450 on one girl. No girl allowed pictures.

Girls at Atlantis FKK

1 Jana, 22, no kids, brunette, a-cup, 5’3”, 120 lbs, Czech
Limited English, young looking, eager to please, perfect hygiene, $50 for 30 min FS.
Summary:
Looks: 9
Attitude: 10
English: 7
Technique: 10
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: yes

2 Katy, 19, 1 kid, black hair, b-cup, 5’1”, 100 lbs, Dom. Rep.
Spoke Spanish with her, good session, but the failed to inform me about charging more money since she started to count time during our make-out session while waiting for a private room. Besides that scam I can’t complain. If one considers doing her, watch out and make sure when the time begins and carry a wrist watch to be sure how much time you have with her. I paid $100 for 35 or 40 minutes and came only once.
Summary:
Looks: 8
Attitude: 6
English: don’t know, I spoke Spanish with her
Technique: 7
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: no

3 Lilith, 25, no kids, brunette, b-cup, 5’9”, 130 lbs, Moldavia
My best fuck during the whole trip and that besides not being my physical type. She does great strip shows and attracts a lot of attention, so she may be busy a lot, but is well worth waiting. She does do everything: French kissing, balls and ass licking, massage. I didn’t check if she allowed facial CS. I repeated with her once and had two 2 hour-long sessions for a total of $450 with multiple cumshots.
Summary:
Looks: 9
Attitude: 10
English: 7
Technique: 10
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: yes

4 Sandra, 25, no kid, 5’6”, 130 lbs, b-cup, Black, Jamaica
Sandra was my second black girl on this trip and in my life. I fucked her in the steam room. She was a little rough, but I had a great time and still remember the session. 30 minutes in the steam room for $50.
Summary:
Looks: 8
Attitude: 9
English: 10
Technique: 8, a little too rough for my taste
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: yes


Girls at Oase FKK

1 Sophia, 21, no kids, black hair, 5’0”, 100 lbs, Bulgaria, tattoo on back
Probably the least beautiful on this trip, but charming, poor English. A decent session by FKK standards, great by TJ standards. $50 for 30 minutes.
Summary:
Looks: 8
Attitude: 8
English: 2
Technique: 6
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: maybe

2 Joana, no kids, light skinned African, 23, b-cub, South Africa
Recommended by a fellow monger I picked Joana as my first ever African girl to have sex with. Her English was excellent, only brief BBBJ, but great fucking for a very good session. I paid $50 for 30 minutes.
Summary:
Looks: 8
Attitude: 9
English: 10
Technique: 9
Hygiene: 10
Repeat: yes

Any reports on the F35 club which apparently is in downtown Frankfurt and therefore easy to reach via taxi?

About FKK-35:

Nice facilities, friendly staff. So-so selection with maybe a gem or two. Usually four to seven ladies, depending on day and time. Service about average, sometimes better. Buffet served on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Dessous Tag (Lingerie Day) on Wednesdays. 50 Euros entry, 50 Euros per session.

The following TripReport snippet is taken from 2003/08 Dcool1 - A Rio Fan Goes To Germany

FKK CLUBS VERSUS RIO TERMAS

Below are some reflexions on the differences between the two destinations:

- The whole atmosphere is different. Don’t forget that in termas you are in the center of a big city. It is south America, it is party time. The premisses are smaller and similar to discotheques. Forget all the equipment, space, saunas, inner and outdoor pools, gardens, cabins in the garden… In the Francfort’s FKKs, you are far away from downtown Francfort. You are in the German countryside. You go more for relaxing, you take your time, it is more like an hotel club concept.


- Prices : the entrance fee for FKKs is not cheap but it is all inclusive. In the best ones you can get three meals (all you can eat) with drinks (no alcool) and access to very good quality equipment. In termas, cheap entrance fee and sometimes no fee but you pay for drinks (alcool permitted) and food (not so cheap). Prices for girls : I think in Rio in a decent terma you start at 120/150 reals for 40 mn (about 50 euro) in a tiny simple cabina (suites are more expensive, maybe 70 or 80 euro). In FKKs, you pay 50 euro for 30 mn in nice and spacious rooms (but you pay substantial entrance fee). My opinion is that prices for girls and access to club equipment in FKKs are very competitive when you compare cost of living in Germany and Brazil.


- Girls selection : the availability of girls in termas is tremendous. The ratio girls/guys is always in our favour in large proportion. Whenever you go, at any time, you always find an attractive charming girl in a terma ready to please you and sometimes it is hard to choose between the candidates. This is not the case in FKKs. Sometimes ratio is 50/50, and even worse. The number of very good quality girls is limited. Expect to wait before getting the big stars and maybe rejected at peak hours.

- The girls : In Rio they are party minded, they have the energy, it is all fun. In FKKs, you find more educated girls. Many speak several langages. Specially those girls from Eastern Europe are really more sophisticated and more refined. In Rio, girls are exotic, they are from a different culture. In FKKs, I had the impression many times to fuck the girl next door, the student or the secretary I see in the streets when I go to work in Paris. I liked that impression. Not to say that I like exotism as well.

- Last but not least : in Germany, contrary to Rio, the girls provide very comfortable and very good quality condoms but they won’t give you their cellular number…

Admin: We have just completed some re-organization of the FKK and Frankfurt threads to make viewing and finding information considerably easier. Thanks to Sabio who recommend the changes.

Rio termas versus FKK clubs: Let me add my own observations, in descending order of impact on the overall experience. The information is based on the Frankfurt FKK clubs Atlantis, Oase, and World, and the Rio termas Luomo and Centaurus.

Advantages of FKK clubs:

1. The nudity allows you to see what you are getting and avoid bad surprises.

2. Well-defined rules. Without negotiation, you get DFK, BBBJ (without CIM), and covered FS for 30 minutes at 50 Euros. If a girl doesn't want to do that, she needs to tell you ahead of time. Extras require agreement ahead of time, but the prices are mostly standard.

3. More variety of girl types, racially and culturally.

4. The ambiance is nicer and more conducive of spending several hours or even a full day.

5. Availability of semi-pros. Regular girls may decide to go to FKK clubs to make money in a hurry. One of the attractions for them is that it's relatively a fun environment.

6. Lighting is not as uniformly bad as in termas. If all the clubs were as well lit as FKK World, this point would have been number 2 or 3 in the advantages.

Disadvantages of FKK clubs:

1. The pre-session hurried pace. Girls sometimes make an immediate request to go for a session and not agree to even two minutes of conversation. I'd say that 5 minutes of pre-session chat would be typical.

2. Variability. Girls are not employees of FKKs, and they go as they please. This frequently results in days with terrible women-to-men ratio.

3. While there are quite a few girls in their early 20s, there are rarely any 18-20 year olds, and there are many older girls. Age seems to be kinder on the girls in Germany than in Brazil, though.

4. The start of the session clock is not well defined, and may include (sexual) couch time. This opens a window for some ripoff by charging for non-sexual couch time.

5. The clubs tend to side with the girl in disputes, so one needs to have a watch and keep track of time, go to the receptionist immediately upon refusal of delivery of a default or agreed-upon service, and so on. Such problems are rare, though.

6. They don't clean the rooms after each session. I guess towels are considered good enough sheets there.

7. Less warmth and passion than the cariocas, but still friendly and skillful.

Girl beauty ranking in the 3 FFK clubs Atlantis, Oase, and World versus Termas Centaurus in Rio, Cafe Photo in Sao Paulo, and Poseidon Massage Parlor (model lounge) in Bangkok. I am only addressing physical beauty here (body, face, perceived youth). IMHO,

Number of girls 8 and above:

1. Atlantis (by far)
2. Centaurus
3. Photo
4. World
5. Oase
6. Poseidon

Overall average level of beauty:

1. Photo
2. World
3. Atlantis
4. Centaurus
5. Poseidon
6. Oase (by far)

I have only been to Centaurus and Poseidon on your list, no others. The mention of Cafe Photo makes me wish I would have checked it out when I was recently in SP.

The only comment I can add is that I would agree with ranking Centaurus slightly above Poseidon for overall average level of beauty. There seemed to be a very high average level of beauty in Centaurus when I went there just recently. I was amazed.

BTW, Germany is moving up my list of places to travel. Guess I better start that German Pimsleur soon. My only question though....Is it simply impossible to get photos of the girls in the FKK Clubs? Is there no sneaking a small camera into the pocket of the robe? Would the girls refuse pictures?

Xenono:

Pictures are a no-no at FKK clubs, and cameras are not allowed (privacy consideration for both girls and guys). If you ask a girl for pictures, she will almost certainly say Nein and probably report you to a more dressed authority .

If you can use your eyes as your camera, it's a scene to behold.

And it looks like English is much more helpful in
this FKK clubs than in Thermas in Rio .

Xenono
Learning German with Pimsleur LOL...

Sabio
Thanks for great comparison. Gives a good idea what to expect in either places. I have to defend a bit Sao Paulo as Cafe Photo is only one of several places in town. Sao Paulo has great escorts lineup, mps, boates, models for hire.

Athos

For me, Sao Paulo is a tough nut to crack. After 3 visits, I am yet to find a venue that consistently has a good number of top girls. You and others seem to have had better luck there.

Haven't posted here in a long time, but thought I would give it another try.

The whole FKK discussion here centeras around the Frankfurt scene. In my opinion the Cologne Dusseldorf scene is better at the moment. The club with the most girls on average is Planet Happy Garden, my personal favourite for quality and beauty of women is Wildenrath.

Photos are a severe No-No, some clubs are banning cell phones because of the picture function.

For some decent photos some of the many FKK's have good home pages. For a good list of links chekc out Kaleu's FKK home page. If you google Kaleu it will come up right at the top, there is an english version. He lists about 100 FKK's throughout germany. some of the best Home Pages are "Park Schloss Dali", "Atlantis", "Parksauna Wildenrath".

I have yet to travel to south america, but compared tio Asia Germany has in my opinion the best pay sex available. The clubs are comfortable and the girls are varied and many are drop dead gorgeous.

Peter

In Sabio's Comparison and in RobertX's report it talked about clubs siding witht he girls in a dispute. In my FKK career, which is probably 100 visits and 300 sessions I have had 4 disputes on price and 3 have gone in my favour. It might be because I speak fluent German and I am a regular customer at a lot of clubs, but usually they side with the customer. One girl in Happy Garden overcharged, I mentioned it to the woman at the bar, she called the girl and it was just the girls policy to charge more. I got the difference refunded to me immediately. At some of the old fashioned clubs like Schiefferhof 2 complaints mean a girl has to leave. Maybe your experience is because you are obviouslx tourists and one time geusts, then they make sure their regular girls are happy. If you come down at 32 minutes and she wants 100€, I would demand that she go back up to the room to finish the time by sucking me off.

Peter

Peter - it seems like the majority of girls give blow jobs without a condom, but a few use it. What is the policy? Can you refuse if a condom is used for a BJ? Also I am planning on returning in January or February of next year. Is the action consistent all year?

Club to club different policy, but in the 3 big ones BBBJ is club standard, and if she doesn't do that she has to say it up front or you can cancel the session at that point, assuming you didn't have sex before the BJ.

In some clubs there are different prices for BJ with or Without. There the girls get upset if you go for the cheap version.

Service is consisten all year long, but dependent upon the girl and her feeling on that day. Best thing to do is go up to a group of guys who look like regulars introduce yourself and ask them for tips. Most know what sort of reviews differnt girls get, and will point you to Top Acts and way from flops. In the meantime I can trust my instincts pretty much, but I am alo able to right off the odd flop as experience, and I like some mediocre sex in between to remind me how good great sex is. I will try and put a photo report (with borrowed photos), but girls I know well and can vouch for the photos of. to show some of the talent in my all time favourite club wildenrath.

Peter

Peter
Are there low and hi season for FKKs or is it same selection all year long? I have always liked German precision. Am looking forward for any more info and photos on FKK's.

Athos,

Not really that many low times, summer vacation times are a little slower as many girls also go on vacation and many guys leave for family vacations. Right around Christmas is pretty slow too, as a lot of girls go home for the holidays. Otherwise I have noticed it being th same level all year round.

There really isn't that much planning, the girls don't work on a strict schedule, they try and plan the girls a little and there are house rules about how long you have to stay depending on when you come to ensure that there are always enough girls, but it is all pretty lax. Even though a lot of it is left to chance it usually works pretty well. I'll attach a picture of Naomi, one of the most attractive women in wildenrath, Naomi 21 from Lithuania. I haven't had the best times with her, because the vibe between us isn't great. I was also in a room with her when there was a lightning storm and she is deathly afraid of lightning. although she has been at Wildenrath for 6 months she still doesn't speak a word of German other than "Lesbian Show costs extra". Really beautiful girls and I am sure that she offers good service, she did with me. Kissing, BBBJ, sex and anal are all on the menu (anal cost 50€ extra, the others are in the 50€ price). I guarantee that this picture is about 4 weeks old and has not been retouched in any way.



Hopefully that worked

Peter, it's great when someone as you who speaks fluent German and regular customer to fkk clubs post on this subject. I visited few times in October fkk club Oase and saw that some girls used scarf/skirt or a towel as a cover when walking around. Is it a change in some fkk clubs about nude policy. Be honest I don't want it to be as in Berlin clubs, where men are naked and women wear cloth . Just your opinion.

I am known to like to have my ass licked during oral foreplay. I bat around 80% in Brasil. Do the fraulein offer it in good old Germany? Also sounds like you can expect 100% bbbj and dfk?
Maybe someone can put some German sentences a newbie can use over there?

Vik,

The girls are not necessarily completely nude in the clubs at all times. Some, like Happy Garden and Wildenrath, have virtually no women who are completely naked, they are either in lingerei or swim suits. Atlantis, Oase, Fantasyland and World are pretty much full FKK clubs, but if a girl wears a shawl around her waist no one will be upset with her. I know some girls with amazing bodies like Beate (see picture). who has been hesitating trying to work in a Frankfurt club because she would have to work naked. she doesn't care about the open BJ's or srewing in the movie theatre, it is just the nudity that bothers her. these places aren't strip clubs, they are brothels. You are supposed to take the girls to a room and screw them, not just hang around looking at naked chicks. The only place where I remember all girls being completely naked with no covering up is at Babylon near cologne.

Here is a picture of Beate who doesn't want to be seen naked:



Athos,

Your batting average will fall well below those of american League pitchers. This doesn't happen much in german FKK's. I only know of one Brazilian girl that ever offered this service unsolicited. In China I get it quite a bit, but never in Germany. One other brazilian girl who was telling me everything she does and does not do said that she doesn't ass lick anymore because it is such a health danger (Hepatitis). I often ass lick a girl while giving head, but have never asked in return. I have seen this service referred to sometimes in classified ads for girls working out of appartments. The shortened form is ZA (Zungen anal) which means "Tongue in Ass". Very few of the girls who list what they do on their home pages mention this service. Not really a german thing. I think less than 5% of girls would offer this.

Peter

Admin: Several posts following this one were moved to -TripReports-: 2003/11 Peter29 - Pros and Cons of the Germany FKK Clubs

Any experience with two girls at once? Any particular club the best if I want a three-some?

Marvin,

You can get two girls at once at virtually any club. You just pay each girl for the time, this just refers to both girls working on you, if you want the girls to do a lesbo show on each other while you are with them that will cost extra and it has to be discussed with the girls. I know that Naomi at Wildenrath does some lesbo showsand that there are a couple of girls at Atlantis that are quite up for it. I have had a couple of two girl experiences and I find them not so great, I think it is better to do two girls after each other and have the full half hour with each. Most of the girls like two girls one guy because it means less work for them. It is also possible to have two guys and one girl, each guy pays full price. Virtually any constellation is possible.

In the meantime I have a Polish fantasy in Wildenrath:

5 Polish girls, Eva, Beate, Dominika, Monika, Gosha.

Eva: Licking my balls (Station 1)

Beate: I'm Fingering her with my left hand at arms legth (Station 2)

Monika: Sitting on my face getting whatever she puts near my tongue licked (Station 3)

Gosha: I'm fingering her with my right hand at arms length (Station 4)

Dominika: Riding my dick (Station 5)

Then every five minutes each of the girls rotates to the next station (afer station 5 she starts at station 1 again). This way I get to do each of these girls in multiple ways. If the total time takes 30 minutes then the total cost is 250€. If I go up to an hour and include a lot of trade of kissing and having the girls kneel next to each other and have me randomly let them give me BJ's then I am at 375€. It is a fantasy that I am seriously thinking of turning into reality next time I go if all my favourite polish girls are there.

Peter

Peter,

I have a question. Besides these hardcore games, are the girls in Wildenrath (and the other clubs like PHG and Babylon) comfortable with DFK?
In general, I try to avoid girls that do not like it or do it with reluctance (some girls really try to avoid skin contacts above breast level).
What's the trend in your area?

Dcool1

Dcool, Babylon is an FKK club with the most rules
for the girls. Being nude, dfk and bbbj is a must
for them, even to spent some time with a client after the session.

Dcool,

DFK is standard at most of the clubs, but not forced on the girls otherthan at Babylon. I have rarely not gotten DFK wehn I want it, but I am 30, don't smoke and have good teeth and no facial hair. Usually for the 50€ session most girls DFK, if you want to be sure ask in advance. At Wildenrath you can ask the girl behindthe bar to point you to girls who will best suit you, she might even tell the girl what you are looking for. As far as all the girls whose ictures I have shown, the only one who doesn't initiate DFK with me is Naomi. But if you smoke heavily and reek from the mouth and havea disgusting moustache I don't want to vouch for the girls.
Just a tip, brush your teeth before coming, or take a toothbrush with you and shower thoroughly upon arriving and between sessions and you should have no problem.


And what I mentioned above are not really hardcore games, this is a mongering site isn't it?

Peter

I agree : girls who avoid DFK are a minority in the Francfort area. And it is better to ask first. This has always been my policy.
I am glad that in Köln/Düsseldorf things go the same way. Thanks for the info.

Peter, five girls working on you, you fingering two, one licking your balls, one on your dick and one serving pussy salad ; you are maybe right, I do not even remember having watched that in any X-rated movie... So I am surely mistaken. It sounds much like one of these Salvation Army christmas gatherings...

I believe that it's not up to the girls in FKK
clubs like Atlantis and Oase to allow kissing and
bbbj, it's a rule of clubs. It's why we have such
a good time there,and girls that don't do it is a minority there. Price is not discussed and very
reasonable for such country, girls are naked and
drinks and food are free for them as for men(
included in entry fee). So there are nothing special about girls attitude in Frankfurt area,
all is about rules. Same eastern european or south
american girls works in ripoff clubs in Paris,red
light district in Amsterdam or strip clubs in New
York. But we don't read exited report from there.

I am planning on going to Germany in January. One more question from me - I like Oriental and Thai girls. At Atlantis there were a couple, but I did not see them there consistently. Any particular clubs have higher ratio's then other?

There are some clubs like Pegasus in Düsseldorf which are solely Thai, but otherwise it is hit and miss. PHG has one or Two, wildenrath haven't seen one in forever. I am in Asia enough to get my fill of them so when in europe I like to bone white chicks (and the occasional black or latina or brazilian). If you are really only into oriental gals then the german FKK scene might leave you dissapointed, although you are more likely to run into an oriental in an FKK than a white chick in the orient, or an oriental in South America. There is a good mix, but they can never suit all tastes.

Peter

Thank you. Maybe I check out Pegasus. Is it basically a whore house or like a FKK club? Any website links you can recommend to locate it? On another board I also read about something called "The Thai House" in Frankfurt, but when I was there I could not locate it. Have you heard of this? Getting all my ducks in the row for my highly anticipated trip in January....those fantasies just making me crazy! Love the white chicks as well, but wouldn't mind a few Thai along the way. Realistically I will never make it to Asia without being accompanied by my significant other. Europe is different, since my regular job takes me there quite a bit.

Marvin

Google search yields this homepage. Should be what you are looking for. Good Luck. Still nothing like going to Thailand however.

http://www.pegasus-duesseldorf.de/webpage/uk2/home.htm

BTW

After looking at some of the pictures available in the free area I do not think you could pay me to go there. Does not look like you'll find any spinners there. Some fat ugly chicks with bad implants-- at least in free area. You would think they would put their best pics there to attract attention. If that is the case--- OMG !!!

ok, made my final plans and booked my ticket to be in Frankfurt in January. I'll arrive on a Monday and leave on Sunday. I am familiar with Atlantis and Oase, but also want to try the clubs in Duesseldorf. I just can't make up my mind about staying either one or two nights in Duesseldorf, is that true?. Besides Wildenrath, which other club is an absolutely "must" to visit? Also, should I stay in Duesseldorf and drive to the clubs or is it better to stay close to them? Any suggestions for nice hotels is also appreciated. So far my on my list to visit in Frankfurt is Atlantis (twice), World, Oase, and Wildenrath. From all the clubs which would be another good one to visit in Duesseldorf where my batting average for BBBJ & DFK is very good? Also it appears that prices are cheaper in Dusseldorf. By the way, I do speak very good German (lived in Hamburg, Germany until I was 14). Any advice is appreciated for me to 'firm' up on my plans. Also, I booked with Avis the last two times and was lucky to get a navigation system. This time there was no guarantee unless I book some insane high category car. Any suggestions for alternate car rental companies is also appreciated.

Marvin,

Besides Wildenrath, here are my two targets in Köln/Dusseldorf, first weekend of December :

http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/

and

www.babylon-wiago.de (Babylon for me)

In the area you can stay at: www.hotel-esplanade-wildenrath.de (Hotel recommended by Wildenrath management)

I will tell you more in my next CH report when I'll complete my trip.
Hope this helps yet.

Dcool

Marvin,

Dcool has named the 3 best club in the area. If you spend two days in the area then these are all the clubs you'll need. There are a lot of other small clubs that can be very hit nd miss aroundthe area. I also agree with Dcool that you should stay in a hotel near the clubs and not in the town. The ones in town are just more expensive. Let me know when you are coming, maybe we can hook up, as all 3 of these clubs can be a little tough to find, especially PHG (even with navigation). I will try and get my FAQ to PHG up soon, so there are some good driving directions to get there.

In all german boards Planet Happy Garden (PHG) is usually more highly rated than Wildenrath, simply due to the sheer number of girls. But I am a big fan of Wildenrath and many people who prefer the smaller clubs also find it very good.

Babylon used to be considered the top club, the couch action that is normal here is quite nice, the price per room is a little high at 80€ for the first session and 65€ thereafter, but the entrance fee is only 30€, so it sort of works out the same. Couch action is a must here, and I think that CIM is included in the priceher, but don't quote me on that.

Peter

Thank you very much. Now comes the difficult part...waiting for my trip :-)

Just booked my cherry trip to frankfurt and will be fitting as much fkk as time and stamina allow. It is a long weekend trip-- I'm arriving friday morning and flying out monday morning. If anyone is in town and wants to tip a few, homebre mail me.

cheers,
dm

(From a post by Peter29 on November 2, 2003)

Atlantis and world are good bets for the big clubs, heading up to the
cologne Area is a good idea too. I personally prefer the smaller clubs in the Cologne Area to the major clubs
in and around Frankfurt.

After the size of World and Atlantis you might need to change your expectations of the more northern ones.

I would drive from world via the 49 to Limburg and get on the A3 there, a couple of miles from this
interchange is Fantasyland, which used to be a favourite and is getting good reviews again. Nice facilties,
homey feel, and I hear the girls are good again. From there it is 1 hour drive to Cologne. I personally am not
that big a fan of Babylon, but some people like it a lot.

I would advise driving 40 or 50 KM further and going to either Parksauna Wildenrath or Planet Happy
Garden. For exact addresses check out Kaleu's site, it is the best for addresses. Both clubs have the same
pricing which is 50? entrance and 25? for a session with covered BJ and sex (not recommended) or 50? for
half hour uncovered BJ and covered sex. The advantage to the price scheme is that each additional half
hour is another 25? and extras like CIM are only 25? up price. If she offers Anal it is only 50? additional.
This means that a 1 hour session with BBBJ and sex is 75?, the prices are much more pleasant for long
bookers like me.

Wildenrath has about 15-25 girls and in my opinion they are the most attractive in Germany. The facilities
are good, but not like World. they are also open really late most of the time (4 AM)

Happy Garden Most nights this club has about 50 girls working, I think the quality of the girls is better than
World (which on average is not too tough to beat) but not as good as Wildenrath. Probably similar to
atlantis, but I haven't been to altenstadt in a year.

At Babylon you usually have 8-10 girls, quality not bad, but for some reason it is not my scene. The BJ's on
the couch are nice there, but otherwise it is not really my place.

I don't know a good hotel in or around Happy Garden/Wildenrath, but I will put up the question on german
board and repost here in a couple of days.

(From a post by Godfather on December 6, 2003)

Is Frankfurt a beautiful city? Anything else to see? Maybe I'm asking the wrong group but I really want to focus on cities that are beautiful and have some sort of cultural value besides the girls. What else is there to do in Frankfurt besides the FKKs?

(From a response by Peter29 on December 9, 2003)

Frankfurt in itself has some very picturesque corners, not as much as Prague or Paris, but the bombing
during the war took care of a lot of that.

Some major points of Interest are:

Old Town including the Cathedral, down by the Main River. The buildings here are quite ornate and usually
in a red stone. The Cathedral and the convent next to it are quite nice. the large market square and around
the Old Town hall is quite nice, all cobblestones and such. It is also the place where the German national
soccer team always celebrates major international victories. The Old Opera House is also very nice with a
great fountain which serves as a gathering spot in the summer in front of it and the Fress-Gass street full of
restaurants and shops. Obn the other side of the river is Sachsenhausen where there are a number of old
Appple-Cidre restaurants where you can enjoy hearty traditional german dishes and some high alc. Content
Apple Cidre. Many of these restaurants like the Painted House and Wagner are quite nicely decorated.
along the Main River are the most Museums and in Germany. There are some that specialize in Art, some in
trains and the most famous is the Jewish Museum. Frankfurt is one of the main Jewish Centres in Germany.

Germany can be a shopping paradise as the average prices are significantly lower than in most other
developed countries. Even with the high Euro you can get a good deal. remember that there is 16% sales
tax built into all prices you see and using Tax Free for Tourists you can get 10% refunded when you leave
the country. Hugo Boss Suits Retail here for 350?, and if you come between December and February or
June until august you can usually get 30-40% off of that.

Otherwise the surrounding towns around the city, especially in the Taunus are quite picturesque, Bad
Söden, Bad Vilbel, Bad Homburg and Oberursel are some very nice cities with some nice old houses. Bad
Homburg and Oberursel are also the nearest towns to Oase FKK.

If you want cultural aspects to Frankfurt then you will find them, it is also a great time to go out at night, with
some of the best Disco's and bars in Germany. It is not as Touristy as Amsterdam or Paris, but the
hobbying action is much better. Just remember that the FKK's are way outside of town (More than 30KM)
so you should rent a car, although the town is best done using public transit, which is excellent with
subways and streetcars.

(From a post by Wallstreet on December 17, 2003)

A weekend at the FKKs are not cheap. The Dollar is getting killed and the cost of renting a car and gas adds a least a couple hundred
bucks to the trip. And when you are surrounded by these girls, you can?t have just one or two. Nor should you - after all Frankfurt is a
bit of a haul. Is it worth it? Well, financial situations are all relative.

Here's my breakdown:

8 girls in 2 days at three clubs:

Total for the girls: 380 Euros.
Total for the Clubs: 170 Euros
Car Rental: 200 Euros
Gas: 100 Euros
Hotel: 90 Euros
Misc (Food): 30 Euros

Subtotal: 970 Euros or
1,164 Dollars

Plane Ticket: 403 Dollars

Grand Total 1,567 Dollars

(From a post by Don Marco on December 21, 2003)

Costs
Germany does not make for cheap sex. Here?s a breakdown of the costs for my three day adventure (all prices in USD):

Flight w/taxes: 390
Hotel, Parking: 575
Gas: 100
Food/Drinks (30/day): 90
FKK clubs (279/day): 837 (averaged 1 admission, 2 stock sessions, one CIM session/d)

Total three days: $1992 including flight for three days.

As I mentioned in a previous report, I would not recommend staying in downtown Frankfurt. Booking at B&B, as Wallstreet, did would cut
expenses by around 325USD for the three days.

Conclusions
Germany is a wonderful place to visit in terms of sightseeing and sex. The diversity of girls present at clubs is unsurpassed and there are
some stunning women present. There were several I saw that would be classified at model material. The clubs were laid back,
comfortable, and for the most part very clean. English is not widely spoken at most clubs, so learning some German would be very helpful
if one was to considering visiting FKKs on a regular basis.

Comparisons.
I love BKK and PI, but there is no comparing beauty between Asia and Germany assuming you like non-Asians. However, in terms of
friendliness, cost, and service, Germany does not compare to SEA. Here?s the scorecard:

Scale 1-10, with 10 being perfect.
Variable, Germay, Thailand, PI
Beauty, 9, 8, 6.5
Clubs, 7, 9, 8
Food, 6, 10, 4
Service, 6.5, 8, 6
Cost, 3, 8, 10