"FAVORITE" OR CLIENT ? " VERY LONG POST.

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Posted by LUVDOG on December 24, 2000 at 00:06:32:

I will warn all that this is a long post. I received a number of questions. I am not going to answer them all but I will address a few of them and add a few comments.
MY QUESTION
When mentioning "favorite", what are you saying "girlfriend" or good in bed and good company outside of the bed?

ROOMMATES AND RENT
RAIDERS:
To address
First of all LuvDogg, let me just say that you are probably the luckiest dogg in TJ. I think
that you have yourself a major problem, which girl to have for which day of the week. And I think that you already answered your own question, what is a favorite, a girlfriend, or someone good in bed - its both. When we say a 'fav' we mean that she is now in the GFE category and to be there she has entered into the great sex in bed rating and trust me, not all girls can actually push a mongers button vice versa for the working girls.

There seems to be a question on my relationship with the other roommates. Although I did date one of them as a "special client" in the past, it has not gone back to that. I am (god forgive me) being faithful to the one now. I think there is a lot about the girls that work in the bars that is very misunderstood here on the boards or a lot of people here on the boards do not want to admit to what they really know to be true. In addition, we have decided to get an apartment to ourselves. We just received the keys this week and will start working on it after Christmas.

There was also a question of who pays the rent. Right now, everyone in the house splits the rent evenly. I pitch in with a number of items and yes I have paid her portion a few times. For our new location, I will more than likely take care of that. My primary reason for this is, if she decides to leave me I have a place close enough to the bars to walk to. There is no door knocking going on. For the cost of three nights in a hotel, I have an apartment. I was going to TJ about 3 days a week prior this relationship. I was spending from 25(2 half-hour sessions) - 70(3 hourly sessions) a night in rooms (tip included). I paid rent in an apartment that is better than most of the hotels in two weeks or less. I do not think she plans to leave read further down and you will understand why I say this.

RAIDERS:
To address
"So you 'clients' or 'favorites' of a chica, don't ever feel bad about the situation the working girl is in, their bank accounts will do rings around yours! They have houses, land, other business ventures lined up, they are supporting their sisters, brothers in college, sending their children to the best schools, buying property, investing in houses and business and taking vacations when ever they feel like, all because of the 'clients' addiction but what an addiction it is huh fellas!"


Also Raiders, I do feel bad for some of the working women. A lot of them will never get the big banks. I will not go into the details of this but it exist on a larger scale than you think and for other reasons that are not their fault and that would surprise a lot of you in this group. I will also feel bad because a lot of them do not want to be there but feel that this is their only way to have something in life. That would really suck to me.

JEALOUSCY
CELTICS:
To address
"This topic comes around eventually with mongers if they visit the zona long enough. Nobody can say what is right for you, only you can decide. With that said, I think it can be a good experience to have a working gf, but it would be difficult for most guys, including me. The knowledge that my puta gf was fucking and sucking just about any guy that walks through the door would certainly eat at me."

Celtics In the past for me there was one other situation similar to my current. When it ended, it was because we both knew it was the wrong time in our lives for this. She went home and we still keep in contact now and than. No heartbreak no bad feelings. I am divorced with one child; my heartbreak days are over may friend. I have had numerous girlfriends here in the states since my divorce (at age 40 I feel 18 again). Some of them I have caught fucking around behind my back and I know many women that do it now on their boyfriend and husbands. To make matters worse I doubt they are being paid for it. I do not think she is out to hurt my emotional status. If that were the case, I do not think we would be taking a trip to her home for two weeks. Her mother has even requested we stay with her vs. in my amiga's own house. Her father is coming into town to stay and visit us and the rest of the family is coming in to celebrate our birthdays. I do not think she would allow this if she felt this was going to be a "temporary convenience". I also discovered that before she made the decision to be with me, she questioned almost every woman I had been with over the last year (almost 2 years for one of them). Nothing ventured nothing gained. Deep water, shallow water is all the same if you know how to swim. I am one strokin mother. To add one more point to what you have said; "If" a chica really likes you, there will be a number of changes you have not imagined. I can almost guarantee you will not be visiting the bars as regular will be one of the first changes.

I read post of people on this board being jealous or up set of their "favs" going with other men. I will have to tell you that if they really like you for more than a "client", it is even more so for them. I will also add that if you want to be more than a client I think you will have to become a one-woman man or keep your adventures very well hidden (and the network in the zone is stronger than you know). As for being jealous, I do not understand the reasoning of some here. You are in the zone to bag as many women as you can but you want your "favorite" to be just yours? Remember most of them are doing this for a living not as a hobby.

This is not to say that I do not at times have to over come jealousy, I have to on a daily basis. I think what helps me the most is knowing that she really does not like what she does and she is there to make money and get on with her life. She has set goals for herself and taking care of her daughter (EXPLORER8939, which by the way is in her hometown with her mother) future. I have now become a part of those plans. We have a number of things that we now want to do together. We also need time to figure out how we are going to do them. Being jealous does not help. A daily call and 4 nights a week visits help eliminate some of that.
LEAVE YOUR HEART AT THE BOARDER

Matiz
To address:
"But I do believe most of us are realistic enough to understand that, when all is said and done, she is still a working girl doing her job and we are just clients, albeit preferred ones. Most of us have a healthy skepticism about relationships with women, and that goes double for prostitutes. Whenever I feel especially swell-headed after my favorita has made me feel like the luckiest guy in the world, I remind myself that she's shared her bed with at least 10,000 guys over the last 20 years. That brings things into perspective. We all like to think we're in the top percentile of guys in terms of personality, looks, sexual performance, etc. But one in 10,000? Not!!"

Matiz, have you ever been to Vegas? My luckiest night in Vegas was when I hit back to back $3500 on a stupid slot machine in Excalibar. One in 10k is about right. As far as what goes on in a guys mind if you read the post you will see it varies. Some may actually want to find a woman to love from the bars other may just want to bang as many as they can with no attachment and others are in the middle somewhere. I was not looking, searching, or pursuing a relationship. There are more than enough girls in the zone to keep me happy for the rest of my life. I have been going down there for 20 years to the date in about 2 weeks never ran out of women.

There has been a lot of talk about the heartbreaks in the zone. "Leave your heart at the boarder" and some other comments that I will not mention. But you know what, after reading though a lot of post here and on other boards, accept for the married man that just wants adventure (I have been there done that), I do not think there is one person on this board that would turn down what they feel to be love. This includes love from a "puta", "hore", "prostitute", "working girl", or "favorite".

This brings me to another question I have had in my mind for a long time. What is the real difference between a working girl and the girl you met in the office (I have had a few adventures there), supermarket, laundry mat, club, or on the beach (more than a few adventures here, lifeguard for 9 years)? Was she a virgin when you met her? Do you really know how many men she slept with in college? On the other hand, has she ever been paid for having sex? These are questions that we may never have an answer for, or at least never have an honest answer for. I have had two virgins in my life. After me, I know they made some rounds before settling down.

I can say I know her past. It's not something I am fond of but, she is doing what she had to in a culture that has not been for many years kind to women. I am 40 years old dating a 27 year old. It may work and it may not work (but neither did my first marriage). Time will tell. I think every one enjoys the feeling of being in love or being loved even working girls. As for me, there is not too much of a chance of me being heartbroken. I love her yes but I am not the type to cry over spilled milk, especially if I have already drank half the class and enjoyed every swallow.

So the choice to leave your heart at the boarder is fine but you may never get the change to know what you are missing. Just because things do not work out one time does not mean they will not work out another time.

El_Cochino
To address:
"If you could please clear up a few things first. Why do you say that because you have seen a couple of favorable posts that she is either lying to you or to the others? Also does she pay rent to you?
As far as favorita go, from my experience they are not girl friends but girls that I make it a point of seeing during my trip to Tijuana. My favorita of five years left Tijuana after saving enough money to have her house built near Veracruz. The last two years of our relationship she had a novio that was living with her, and eventually move with her and her son to Veracruz.
Nothing ever came free, but I felt her price was extremely reasonable. Also I knew that she was sending money to her father to build her house and I actually was thankful that she was able to get out of Tijuana not completely screwed up."

The rent is shared. Once we move I will more than likely pay the rent. It really is not all that much for the place we are moving into at this time. I have helped her in the past with rent a few times. I more than anything else make sure she has food and the cloths she needs. I am lucky in that she has proven to be very reasonable. I have bought her cloths and she was up set because she did not need them.

Like you past "fav" she also has a house built and is almost done with it. I am going to take a look at is soon and see how much is needed to finish it off and what else it may need. She is leaving that up to me at this point.

As far as the post go; Other seem to view her as a '"fav" until I have a clearer understanding of what that is I am viewing that as a girlfriend. If that is the case, she is lying to someone. There still seems to be many different definitions of the term. Even throughout the posts I have read.

Like you past "fav" I want her out of this business. It is not where she wants to be and she has in two years about completed her past goals. She does have some other goals now but I want to help her find a different way to achieve them.

Merenpapi
To address:
"I'm in this hobby first and foremost for "variety" so it's doubtful if I ever have a "favorita". Even if I have one, being such a jaded and cynical guy, I would never consider her a "girlfriend" in the traditional sense, just "special friend/prostitute".
Anyway I am curious. Does your "girlfriend" mind if you see other working girls? or you still have your total freedom? On the other hand, you're don't mind at all what she's doing? however long?"
She minds very much if I see other girls. If I was, being paid for it that might be different. I do mind what she is doing. However, for now I am looking beyond what she is doing. She wants to finish with her goals. I am not rich so I am not going to stand in her way. I will help her where I can. I will have a problem with this if she wants to continue after all things are taken care of. I have started giving her English lessons and teaching her to type. After that, I have insisted that she go to school for basic computer. Getting her started in another line of work or business is the goal.




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