I'll start with an admission. I've only been to Hong Kong once meaning there are certainly others more qualified than me to write a guide. That said, I haven't seen any Hong Kong guides written so I'm taking a shot. I've drawn on my experience from hobbying in countries all around the world in compiling this guide. I also was fortunate enough to have a good friend who wrote a very extensive report covering Hong Kong. Getting Happy in Hong Kong, Madness in Macau, and Titillated in Thailand by Xenono. Xenono also helped with preparation for my trip and aspects of this guide.

If you notice any errors or significant omissions, please post or send me a private message and I'll see about getting them included and credited. I imagine I'll be updating this guide at least several times.

BASIC FACTS

Exchange Rate: 1 US Dollar (USD) = 7.75 Hong Kong Dollars (HKD) (bank rate as of 11/3/05,actual rate a bit less)
Electicity: 220V, 50 Hz. Both Type G and Type M outlets depending on building
Airport to Hotel Transportation: ~100-140 HKD ($13-$18 USD) for recommended Hotel Shuttle or MRT/Shuttle Combination, more for taxi, less for public bus
Hotel Rates: $60-$200+ USD

P4P Rate Table:

141 Apartment	350-500 HKD ($45-$65)
141 Hotel Reservation	800-1000 HKD ($104-$130)
1 Ups/ST Brothels)	300-700 HKD ($39-$91)
Saunas/Massage Parlors	500-1500 HKD ($65-$169)
Club Freelancer	500-2000 HKD ($65-$260)

CHECKLIST

_ Passport (obviously)
_ Hotel Reservation
_ Plug Adaptors
_ 141 Building Printouts (See 141 Strategy, next post)

Making sure you have a hotel reservation might seem obvious, but I listed it because I've successfully waited until the last minute in many of travels, or only reserved a portion ahead of time to check other options while in country. You want to be careful of this in Hong Kong because the city is popular for conferences. If your trip coincides with a major conference, the rooms will fill very quickly and prices for the remaining rooms may skyrocket.

If you have electronic equipment, make sure that they can all accept up to 220V input in which case you'll only need plug adaptors. If you MUST bring electronics that don't have built in transformers for the higher voltage, then you'll need to bring a transformer as well. See -World Traveler Tips-: Electronics - Transformers and Adaptor for more information.

HONG KONG LAYOUT

Here is an overview map borrowed from http://www.precisionreservations.com. This should be useful in planning your hotel accomodations. The site has more detailed maps showing exact hotel locations, MTR routes, and other details.



The airport is located to the northwest of Mong Kok. I stayed in Wan Chai and Causeway Bay, but I also think Tsim Sha Tsui is a good choice. Tsim Sha Tsui and Central seem to be the best "touristy" areas. Most of the saunas/massage parlors seem to be located in Tsim Sha Tsui which also seems to have the greatest concentration of 141 girls. Mong Kok/Yau Ma Tai and Causeway Bay are also strong for 141's. 141's are available almost everywhere else, but in much smaller numbers. Wan Chai is where all the freelancer bars, nightclubs, and discos are located, but beware of the strip clubs that are also there.

The metro runs through all of these areas inexpensively, but shuts down around 1am. For this reason I stayed on Hong Kong Island (Central/Wan Chai/Causeway Bay) so that I could walk or catch a cab to my nearby hotel. Taxicab fares are not too unreasonable, though, so staying in Tsim Sha Tsui shouldn't be more than a $10 USD ride.

ACCOMODATIONS

As mentioned in the checklist, arrange your accomodations in advance. I was happy with the reservation services of http://www.precisionreservations.com in arranging several days at the YMCA Harborview Inn in Wan Chai for approximately $100 USD. If you make your reservations early or when travel is not peaking, you should be able to find a room for less(if you are price concious like me). The Precision site is also good for seeing where all the hotels are located. I would recommend choosing one as close to a MTR station as possible for convenience.

I had also tried http://www.priceline.com, but had no success finding rooms for less than $140 due to the conference that was taking place. Xenono successfully got a room in Tsim Sha Tsui for about $50 USD using Priceline. Of course, when bidding on a room you can only choose a general area and not a specific hotel.

I couldn't find a hotel for less than $250 USD as the conference got closer, so I switched to the Noble Hostel in Causeway Bay which ran about $40 USD per night. I'm usually not picky at all when it comes to rooms, but this one smelled funny. I didn't and wouldn't bring a girl back here. Because of the conference, even the guesthouses and hostels filled up and had no rooms available for the final weekend of my trip(I went to Macau).

If you do find yourself in a position where hotels are mostly filled, you might want to try the Tsim Sha Tsui area. I noticed a lot of small hotels that probably had rooms available. Personally I would have felt uncomfortable leaving any of my valuables in these places.

Member Recommended Reservation Services:
http://www.precisionreservations.com (d'Artagnan)
http://www.priceline.com (Xenono - less expensive, but cannot pick a specific hotel when bidding)
If anyone has other recommendations that they've personally used. Please post or PM and I'll include them.

If you do arrive without a hotel, there is an area in the Hong Kong Airport you can visit with direct lines to many hotels.

ON ARRIVAL

After clearing immigrations and customs, you'll soon come across a tourist information booth. Stop by here for a map (grab 2) and to ask about hotel transportation. They provided me a coupon for a shuttle directly to my hotel at a total cost of 100 HKD ($13 USD) to bring it in line with the Airport Express-Shuttle combination.

You'll probably need to visit a currency exchange booth or ATM for some local currency next. At the very least you'll need some money for your transportation. They have automated currency exchange machines that accept US dollars if you want to use those. A Citibank, HSBC (I think) and maybe another ATM are located near the Airport Express train. The shuttle counter is located to the Hotel kiosks (the info booth clerk will explain where to go)

The hotel shuttle pickup is located downstairs from a corridor to the far right from the perspective of where you entered this part of the airport.

TRANSPORTATION

MRT and taxis are the way to go. The MRT is easy to figure out so I won't spend much space explaining it here, but I may add additional information later. Basically it costs about 4 HKD (.50 USD)for a close stop and 11 HKD ($1 USD) for a cross harbor trip. The MRT runs until about 1am, so unless you're traveling from a Wan Chai club to your hotel late at night, you can usually take the MRT. If you do plan to use the MRT and will be in town for more than a few days, it's much more convenient to purchase an Octopus Card for 150 HKD ($19 USD), 50 HKD in the form of a deposit which can be refunded at the end of your trip. You'll save time and hassle not having to wait at the ticket machines and fumbling with change, plus you receive a discounted fare on all rides.

Taxis are safe and metered. Short distances up to 2km, such as from Wan Chai to Causeway Bay, will run the flag drop price of 15 HKD ($2 USD). When travelling cross-harbor, such as from Wan Chai to Tsim Sha Tsui late at night, you may need to pay a double toll so the for the ride there and the driver's return. I stayed in Wan Chai and Causeway Bay to avoid this, but Xen said the total ran approximately $10 USD for the trip when he brought home a date late at night.

P4P OPTIONS

141 Apartment	350-500 HKD ($45-$65)
141 Hotel Reservation	800-1000 HKD ($104-$130)
1 Ups/ST Brothels)	300-700 HKD ($39-$91)
Saunas/Massage Parlors	500-1500 HKD ($65-$169)
Club Freelancer	500-2000 HKD ($65-$260)

141 Apartments
141 apartments are my top recommendation overall due to a good balance of cost, availability, and quality. 141 basically means "1 girl for 1 apartment". They can be found through various local advertisments, but for us will most likely be located via the Internet. The only site I used was http://www.sex141.com/. There are others, but they seem to have fewer listings, not in English, etc... Sex141 has tons of listings and easily kept me entranced for hours looking at ads.

There are two types of ads, the first type lists the specific apartment address. When the address is listed, than the girl lives in the apartment. The prices for apartment girls are less expensive, usually 350-500 HKD ($45-$65), but unfortunately more of the faces are obscured in these ads. Some of the ads have phone numbers, but usually you just show up and ring the bell (most of the girls only speak Chinese, so the phone number usually won't help unless the ad indicates that she speaks English). When you arrive, a sign should be on the door saying "Welcome" or "Don't Disturb" (or variations). Many are in Chinese & English, but not all. I've also seen bags placed in front of doors to indicate unavailability.

Many of the 141 apartment listings are located in buildings with other 141s. These places are dumps, but safe to walk around in. Often there are two small old elevators, one only stopping on odd-numbered floors and the other only stopping on even. They usually only stop on different floors when going up. When going down, they usually only stop at the bottom level. This is one of the reason you'll see others like yourself walking up and down the stairs in these buildings checking the various talent or looking for alternative girls when the one they want is busy. Occasionally you'll see guys waiting in front of a door for his girl to free up.

Once you find an available girl as indicated by the sign, you'll need to ring her doorbell. She'll check you out via closed-circuit camera, sometimes from up to four different angles. She'll then open up the door. If you aren't Asian and/or don't speak Chinese, there is a possibility that she might wave you off or refuse service. You also have the option of smiling and walking away if the girl is not up to your standards. If both parties are agreeable, she'll let you in.

Sessions are generally 30-40 minutes and paid in advance as indicated by the rate shown in the ad. Quality and services can vary, but from my personal experience tended to be good to excellent. Tips are not expected, but naturally appreciated. I personally did not give tips and received no complaints.

See my 141 Apartment Strategy section below for more details on navigating this recommended option. The 141 scene is also discussed thoroughly in the 141 topic located at Asia: Hong Kong: 1-4-1 Sex in Hong Kong.

141 Hotel Reservations

The second type of 141 ad indicates "Hotel Reservation". Many of the better looking girls with unobscured photos have these ads, but unfortunately they usually charge at least twice as much and are more difficult to schedule. The main problem is that most of the girls do not speak English. The few that do, or have an English-speaking pimp, will usually have their ads notated under the "Race" field. You need to be able to communicate over the phone so that they can give you the hotel address to meet the girl. Having your cell phone on you when you go is highly recommended. To the best of my knowledge, it's incall only meaning that you only have the option of coming to them, but at this moment I cannot say for certain. If anyone can verify this is not the case, please do so.

I managed to arrange one hotel reservation appointment for 1000 HKD ($130 USD) with a Korean that had an English-speaking pimp. The photos were accurate, but the session quality was disappointing. This was both the most expensive and only disappointing 141 session I had. One interesting thing about this session was that saw my appointment arrive at the hotel just after I arrived, yet I was met in the room by a different girl who then had to call before my girl came. I suspect my date was working illegal and they had to verify this wasn't a sting. Actually the first girl specifically asked if I was a police officer. The name of my date also changed from Mika to something else in her ad also changed while I was still in Hong Kong.

If you don't mind the higher rate and can find an English speaker then you might get lucky. Another idea I had but didn't attempt was to enlist a local's help in making an appointment. This might work, but because of the hassle and additional expense, I'd recommend against the Hotel Reservations in general.

1 UPS/SHORT TIME BROTHELS

I didn't visit any of these, so my description of them is hearsay, mostly based on Xenono's report and what he told me. Most of these are located in Mong Kok, mainly along Shanghai and Portland street. Most of the signs are in Chinese, but they are identifiable by the list of prices on the sign ranging from 300-700 HKD ($65-$91). Here is a pic of a sign from Xenono's report. The higher prices are for girls in higher demand, usually denoted by race.

Basically I guess they lead you to the brothel room where you tell the mamasan/papasan which nationality you want at which point they'll bring the a corresponding girl to you. You'll then be asked if she's acceptable, and if not another will be brought until you accept or they run out of girls. The process didn't seem very appealing to me and I was more than occupied with 141s and freelancers, so I passed on this option. I'll try at least one on my next visit to Hong Kong, though.

If anyone has additions/corrections for this section, please post or PM.

SAUNAS/MASSAGE PARLORS

This section actually covers a range of places, many of which refer to themselves as "Saunas" but are probably more along the lines of what most people would call massage parlors. I only stopped in one and Xenono stopped in several and we never saw a wet or dry "sauna", but a massage was always offered as part of the package.

Xenono reports on several in the Asia: Hong Kong: Saunas section. Because of the inability to take photos, I didn't bother trying out any of these. The reviews were also not very impressive.

The one "sauna" I visited is a popular one commonly referred to as "K-Pressure Sauna". I also highly recommend it. K-Pressure is located at 123 Woosung St just north of Jordan road and a couple blocks west of the Jordan MRT terminal. It's straight back down a corridor two storefronts down from 7-11.

Price is a set 420 HKD + 88 HKD to the room attendant for a total of 508 HKD ($66 USD). I threw the mamasan a small tip on my two visits, but that's optional.

One negative is that you can't pick from a lineup so you have them filing in one at a time where you sit with the girl for several minutes then she leaves at which point you say "yea" or "nay". I didn't feel any pressure from the mamasan to choose, but I felt a little weird not going with some of the girls that had otherwise extraordinary attitudes while we sat together. The girls I saw tended to be older, but most were reasonably attractive and I saw one stunner while going upstairs with a different girl.

My sessions at K-Pressure rocked, but did not include much kissing due to the girls' tongues up my ass, but the BBBJs and sex were among the best I experienced in HK. Click on the link for more details.

If anyone has additions/corrections for this section, please post or PM.

CLUB/DISCO FREELANCERS

To the best of my knowledge, all of the club freelancers work the various bars on Hong Kong Island in Wan Chai. As freelancers, they are not obligated to work any particular club at any particular time, but most keep at least a semi-regular schedule and have their preferred clubs to work at. Peak hours seem to be about 11pm to 2am, but some run strong much later.

The approach in all freelance clubs and discos is pretty basic. If you see a girl you like, approach her to talk or offer to buy her a drink. If things click, you can spend additional time with her in the club or invite her back to your hotel or to a short-time hotel. You can throw out a price or ask a price, but if you ask prepare to get a higher quote than she'll accept, most expect a negotiation.

Some girls will not bring up a price, even if you do not and things start to progress to a room. From what I've read, some of these girls are in country on work visas and may not directly talk about price due to concerns about losing their work visa. You might be offered a freebie if you're a stud, but from what I've read they do expect to get paid.

Expect to pay from 500 HKD ($65 USD) to 2000 HKD ($260 USD). More attractive and lighter skin are often indicators of higher price. Locals, other asian nationalities, latinas, and occasionally others might be available. Expect to pay towards the higher end for a non-Asian.

Attitudes vary widely. Some prima donnas are stuck on themselves and are picky about who they'll speak to, but it's not always about looks. I saw some girls blow guys off because they weren't dressed like they had money. The high number of guys dressed in business suits and throwing around money like rich fools seemed somewhat of a problem to me, but it might have been because I went during a very busy period. Xen didn't notice this problem when he went.

Many clubs have a cover charge, but it's not always enforced. When Xenono went he rarely had to pay. For my trip, I had to pay every time except once. I also noticed different cover charges at times with corresponding sign changes. Consequently, the rates I posted below may differ from what you experience, if so, please post.

Here is a partial list of clubs with links:
Fenwick The Dock - My #1 ranked. Spacious, busy, good selection, and low cover charge of 80-100 HKD ($10-$13 USD). A variety of Asians and latinas from Colombia and Venezuela available, possibly other South American countries as well. Maybe other nationalities, I couldn't talk to everyone. Main drawback is high drink prices for girls at 130 HKD ($17 USD). These add up quickly. Also beware of post-ops if you care. I'm about 80% certain at least two of the hottest girls were not always girls(other girls confirmed post-ops worked there, but I did not ask them to point out who). Best destination for late-late night.
Neptune II - My #2 ranked. Good setup and selection, but higher cover charge at times of 100-300 HKD ($13-$39 USD). I refused to go in when they wanted 300 after letting me in two nights earlier for 100. Drinks for ladies are reasonable.
New Makati - My #3 ranked. Small but decent selection with 150 HKD ($20 USD)cover. All or almost all Philipinas. I didn't pull from here but saw a few that I liked. Xen liked this place a lot more than I did.
Laguna - Unranked. I visited once and it wasn't worth the 200 HKD ($26) cover I paid. There were hardly any girls on what should have been a busy night. I did spot one here I somewhat regretted not taking after drooling over her legs in an iCafe, but that was it.
Dusk til Dawn - Xen reported on this, but I never went it. Unlike the other places, Dusk til Dawn has windows so you can see inside. It always looked more like a regular bar than a freelancer pickup, so I didn't want to spend any time in here.
Boracay - I was insulted just looking at the sign that said 600 HKD cover ($78 USD!). I saw a couple average girls enter and zero guys. I was tempted to walk up just to ask what the fuck they were thinking trying to charge that much for cover.
Strawberry Club - I should have stopped in here but didn't. This club is outside of the 2-3 block radius all the other clubs seem to be in. There is little posted here on CH, but I've seen good comments on this place elsewhere.

STRIP CLUBS?

You'll run across many strip clubs with attractive girls outside trying to talk you into coming in. I have never been inside so I admit this is only speculation, but since I don't recall reading about any of these places in the research I've done I would assume this is because they are likely rip-off joints where your money quickly disappears in cover charges and high pressure drink sales. I won't be the one to put this theory to a test, if you know more by experience or hearsay, please let me know so I can update this section.

RESTAURANTS/SIGHT-SEEING

Buy a Lonely Planet or Frommer's Guide.

That's about it for the main portion of my guide, but I'll likely submit updates later. I'll also try to work up some maps, but who knows when that might be done. I'll add my 141 Strategy section as a separate post.

BONUS SECTION: 141 APARTMENT STRATEGY

The 141 scene is not too difficult to figure out, but here are some additional tips and strategies. This should be particularly helpful if you want to do your research in a reasonable amount of time while at the same time not get overwhelmed opening up hundreds of profiles. One great thing about the 141s is that the photos are very accurate, another great thing is that there is such a high percentage of doables...hence the need to make your targets managable.

Research is not mandatory, if you chose to wing it, you can skip down to the "WINGING IT" section.

Even if you limit yourself to http://www.sex141.com/, you're still looking at 727 girls as of this writing. If you have not yet opened up the link to this site, you should do so now to follow along. I'll note now that although it might be tempting to start compiling targets for your upcoming trip right away, try to do so as close to your departure date as possible since there will likely be many changes even over the course of a week.

My first recommendation is to prioritize your browsing by location limited to established addresses (basically eliminating Hotel Reservation listings). If you do not eliminate the HR listings, you'll likely be opening many, many pages only to find very attractive girls that do not speak English that you'll likely have lots of difficulty hooking up with. Save yourself the frustration and forget the HR's unless you're going to be around in HK for a long time. Trust me, there will be more than enough girls to your liking with addresses given. You'll also save money since the HRs are more expensive.

Near the top of the screen you'll see the abbreviations "NT", "KLN", and "HK". These stand for New Territories, Kowloon, and Hong Kong (Island). Forget about NT as these are too far and you'll have more than enough girls in KLN and HK. Following the abbreviations are the districts. If you look at an MTR map you'll see they also correspond to MTR stops.

For HK, I would only recommend the Causeway Bay listings. For KLN, I recommend Prince Edward, Mong Kok, Yau Ma Tei, Jordan, and Tsim Sha Tsui. Only after going through these would I look at the others if you feel you don't have enough targets.

My two favorite districts for 141s were Causeway Bay and Prince Edwards because of the highest percentage of unobscured faces at the time of my trip. If you are more concerned about bodies this becomes more difficult because 90% of them have nice bodies with little fat. But if you're like me and the face is more important, compiling your targets becomes more manageable.

Here is a sample search to generate a list of targets in Jordan.
1. Click "Jordan"
2. To the right of the red text, you'll see "All:[#] 141:[#] Massage:[#]" If you want to eliminate the massage listings, click 141. Otherwise continue. (Massage:[#] will not appear if there are not massage listings.)
3. Now along the left side of the screen you'll see buildings listed. The first that appears is National Court. Click it.
4. You can now Right-click on the names to open them in new windows. The ratings and comments seemed meaningless to me so I only paid attention to if I could see enough of the face to determine if I liked the girl.
5. Once you find a girl you like, at a minimum print out a picture of the building where she is located and label the photos with the building address and district. If you find other girls you like in the same building, you do not have to repeat this, of course. Write down the apt #, price, and working hours of your girl on the back of your printout.
6. Optionally, you may want to print out 1 or more photos of the girl if you have time, but likely there will be too many. Instead or in addition you may want to save the photos on your hard drive now, since the ad will likely be gone by the time you return from your trip.
7. Check out the other girls in the building, if you like others, add their apartment numbers to the back of your building printout. You may want to prioritize them with numbers or stars if you don't print out their photos.
8. Repeat steps 3-7 with the next building until the district is complete.

At the end of your research, you'll now have pictures of buildings organized by district with apartment addresses and working hours of your targets listed on them. The targets should be prioritized with top choices followed by acceptable alternatives.

Busiest times for these girls are lunch time 12pm-1pm and after work rush hour from about 5pm-7pm. If possible, avoid these hours. When you do set out, you can do so by district, carrying at most 3 districts and only if they are adjacent. Also, if it's the beginning or end of the day, check the working hours of your primary targets to make sure they are working.

You should know where the approximate locations of your buildings are by looking them up on the free map you grabbed at the airport or at your hotel. You can then use the building photo to help find the entrance which is not always obvious. If for whatever reason you cannot find the entrance, check around nearby corners. Sometimes a building entrance will be around the corner on the cross-street. Knowing this in advance helped me find a couple places.

When you get to the building, you'll likely be unimpressed with the upkeep. Make your way to the elevators and get in the first one that's available. Often times there are two and they only stop on alternating floors. If you are in the right elevator, go directly to your primary target floor. If not and someone else is in the elevator with you, go to the floor below and be prepared to make your way quickly up the stairs to your target. If the other guy has the same target, hopefully he'll pick the floor above to walk down stairs and you'll already be there.

If you're lucky, you'll see a nice "Welcome" sign displayed on your target apartment door, hopefully in a language you can read. Ring the bell and the girl should soon answer the door. Unless the girl limits herself to locals, she should let you in (otherwise she might wave you away.) If she does try to shoo you away all is not lost as I've known some to still get in with a persistent smile, but for me the mood would be killed at this point.

Unfortunately, you'll often come to a door with a sign that says "Do Not Disturb" or "Come Back Later". Usually this means your girl is with another customer and will be busy for the next 5-30 minutes. You can then wait in front of the door or start checking your alternates in the same building. Note that unless someone going up chooses to stop on your floor, you can only go to the bottom. You can then go to the floor of your next preferred alternate.

ALTERNATIVE STRATEGY/WINGING IT
If you are less concerned about the order of your alternatives or as an alternative strategy to begin with, you can go staright to the top floor (or the floor of your highest listing) and work your way down stairs. Many locals use this tack without even consulting the internet listings. They simply know the buildings that have 141s and check all the doors that have "Welcome" signs. You can do this too. Ring the doors of available girls, if you don't like what you see, simply smile, wave, and move on. Don't worry about them, they get this all the time.

If you are winging it completely, you may want to concentrate on the following buildings which have lots of 141s in them.
Tsim Sha Tsui: Fook Kiu Mansion, 34-36 Cameron Road
Tsim Sha Tsui: No. 72A Kimberley Road
Causeway Bay: Tai Kwun Mansion, 442-448 Lockhart Road
Causeway Bay: Fuji Bld, 381-383 Lockhart Road
Causeway Bay: Hop Yee, 474-476 Lockhart Road

That's it for my strategy guide. Don't forget to wipe your mouth after going through the 141 site.

If you do want to look for English speaking Hotel Reservation girls, you might want to try searching where Race = Mixed or Other. Not all will be pulled up, but you might find some nice results.

Here are a couple hot Europeans currently available for 1000 HKD($130 USD).

Excellent, very informative and thorough report.
Thanks alot!!
Have to go back to the motherland one of these days

Good report, I am thinking of traveling to HKG real soon. If anyone have the name of a few "Guest Friendly" hotels ?

Although Hong Kong is not a cost effective place for long time (as far as I can tell) It is one of my favorate places for good service (and this is coming from someone who spends most of his time in Brazil). In particular I really ejoyed my sessions at K-Pressure Sauna, and highly recommend the place. My favorite place on my recent trip to Asia, which also included BKK and Macau. However, It should be noted the level of service tends to exceed the level of attractiveness of the girls, but most of the girls while not stunners are not bad. I might add that unless anal is critically important to you, I haven't found better service anywhere (and there is limited anal available but not with the better girls)

Now if we could just find a good cost-effective hotel, it would be a great stop.

D'art-- excellent first stab! BTW, you know where the local HK'ers go when they want some P4P-- right?


Shenzhen !

I love HK, but am way too cheap to pay that much for pussy when so much is available around the corner.


Great job tho and I would love to see more info on the scene in HK as well as Japan.

Great report d'Artagnan. It's nice to see someone else partaking of the delights of HK.

I just came back from a week in Hong Kong last months. I would add that the freelancers in the discos in Wanchai are definitely the way to go. One point that I would add to what d'Aartagnan has said is that though the freelancers may seem expensive at HK$500-2000, that is for the whole night, not just a short time. They are all working girls, and I have never been refused. I have also never had to pay the cover charge even though many of the discos do have signs. I did in fact meet a gorgeous Philipino girl in Boracay, we spent most of the free time I had together.

I have tried the 141 girls, very handy for an afternoon quickie, or if you want some variety from your freelancer from the discos. Not the same sort of GFE you will find from freelancers, but still does the trick.

Followup to d ' artagnan. His superb report is hard to beat. It was a perfect guide. Tried the 141 on Kimberly but it was dark and I have beeen robbed more than once[ Rio/ Athens] so I left. Could not get anyone to answer door after 3 different doors tried. Then went looking for "K Pressure sauna...found the wrong place I think. Cost $75, including argument over $30 guest fee"you are not a member"??for the best lookinfg girl with the worst attitude. Totally unenthusiastic but a definite 10. Later tried the free lancers. Fenwicks was Ok but girls seemed to have some attitude problems. Sort of standoffish but pretty. Later tried Club Makati...The first night i was casual and it cost 150HKD cover. Drinks $6 US. Had a perfect GFE with a Indonesian who had been a Balinese Temple dancer.[I can hear you laughing now....if you saw her dance you would trip over your tongue.] I found it easiest to commmunicate in such a loud club that i would write a price on my hand...worked great. Took her home for $75 US and gave her a $25 tip. A real winner.And one of my best times. I suspect Fenwicks was not as good becuz people had trouble hearing me. Second night went dressed up.
Tie, french cuffs, good shoes...no cover. Also a worker there started bringing girls to me. A real mix of Filipina, Indonesians and Malaysians. A drunk Australian tried to get involved with one I was "working on" when he was led to another part of the club. I gave the worker $20 an he ran intreference for me the next 4 nights. It was so good I did not even see much of the city. All were 9+ and all GFE's. I believe the clubs are on Lockhardt road on Hong Kong Island. One or two bitched about a cab back fro Kowloon but after a good tip they smiled and snuggled.

Doesn't sound like K-Pressure. If you go to the KP topic you'll see a picture of the hall entrance, just to the right of the pharmacy and straight back to the very end of the hall up stairs on the left.

Also following d'Art's report, and as noted above, I went to K-Pressure (more than once) and did not experience what Patbateman did. In fact, they were always very friendly and there was no mention of any guest fee or anything else that might relate to being a foreigner. So, Patbateman either had incredibly bad luck, or more likely was at the wrong place.

This reminded me, I actually also had difficulty finding K-Pressure despite having the address. It's located DIRECTLY opposite a Yoshinoya fast food restaurant on the corner.

I walked up and down Woosong a few times thinking K-Pressure might have been a different sauna on the same side of the block as Yoshinoya a bit farther up. It was the only obvious sauna nearby (K Pressure is hidden) and had an older but fairly attractive mamasan out front.

Also, from what two different mamasans told me at K-Pressure, they seemed to be very aware and strict on customer satisfaction from the girls.