Yesterday the 1st of Aug I was in the CC and damned if it didn't happen for the second time exactly seven days after the last one. On July 25 SMM raided CC and took out 10 girls that did not have up-to-date health cards. On Aug 1 SMM raided the CC again, this time they took out 9 girls that did not have up to date health cards. Some of the girls were hauled off both times, I know that 1 chica paid a fine for not having the health card up to date(800 Pesos), I can just imagine what the cost will be for the stupid chicas that got caught twice in a row by the exact same SMM officers. Stupid putas don't care about the health card or if they have any diseases. Always ask the chica to see her SMM paperwork, do not believe what they say!
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hi
i have always said these girls in the 2 big clubs adelitas and CC only care about one thing.
MONEY
why would they care about taking the time for get these cards ?
it would take time away from their drug sessions.
their are a few that are resposible but most of them just want money and more money and that comes first , drugs second and saftey 3rd.


milkman

I dropped by the CC on Wed. about 7:00 pm and it was depressing. But there was a girl dancing dressed in a gold tin man type outfit. Seemed to be OK but the place was so bad I was turned off. Anyone know her name?

I have to agree with milkman 100% on THAT front.

CC had the sharpest girls dancing and in the club!

I've noticed several long time CC girls have just recently defected to AB. I know it happens, but it seems more of the girls have been moving over lateely (eg. Myra, Sophia and others). Is it because AB is about 5 times busier on an average night?

Awhile back I posted that upon my return to CC, after a long absence, I thought the place just wasn't the same. Some argued I was nuts. I still go to CC because fun can still be had but you definitely have to look alot harder. So yeah, it could be that AB is booming at night where as CC is just OK. Raising the barfine to $100 at CC doesn't help BTW.

$100? That's crazy. The talent there doesn't warrent that at all. I think CC may just have priced themselves out of the market.

What is up with this place? I've been there the last few times, the girls are older, there are only a few girls, thier attitude is not the best. I am not being rude to them (treat a whore like a lady and a lady like a whore). When is the best time to show up and who are the new superstars? Thanks TBONE

I would say the best time to show up is 8pm. The place doesn't really get going until 10pm but it is nice to see the talent come in slowly. One minute the bar is dead and then all of sudden it is packed.

As far as new superstars, that is a tough one to answer. Back in the day, it was easy to roll of a bunch of names that everyone was in agreement on who was hot. Lilia, Michelle,Gaby, Perlita, DEYANIRA to name a few. As far as session quality went, it was YMMV. Perlita is the only one left on that list right now. And her looks have changed.

Superstars of today... hmmm. There is a dancer named Karla who lights up the stage. She is pretty imo. Nite time chica

A cute daytime chica is Estrella. Muy flaca.

I wouldn't give them superstar status as the collective members of CH aren't all hyping them up at the same time. So I could be standing alone in my opinion of these chicas.

IMO AB is also lacking in the superstar department. The most recent hotties in what I would call the new era are Nikita and Sylvia. Mylena has been around for awhile but she is more recent in terms of superstars. Mylena and Nikita are daytime and Sylvia is nite time.

All of these new chicas have reviews so you can get a vibe on their service. Sylvia and Mylena have good reps. Nikita not so much. Estrella ok and I don't recall the tone of Karla's thread.

As with CC, AB has a larger selection at nite.

In fact there are no more superstars as annointed by TJ Boards. Guys simply don't post about the extra special finds they encounter in terms of superstar service, and especially if the chica also happens to have trophy looks.

Trophy chicas are regularly identified and posted about on these boards but it is very rare that you will see more than 1 or 2 extremely positive reports about the service of any one of them who may happen to put out more than standard TJ service. Granted that is a low percentage of the trophy pool. But in the old days, the info would get around online - not just word of mouth by amigos hanging together in TJ or Emailing each other.

This is the new era...mum mongers keeping their favoritas off the boards. Plenty of actual superstars - few if any identified.

This is not meant to be necessarily critical because in the 1990's the vast majority of us were newbies slowly emerging from cluelesness. We were offered extraordinary service by a group of chicas whose mileage didn't vary.

Nowadays most of us have developed a certain sophistication about TJ, the chicas, the Spanish language - and we wrangle good service from chicas who give crappy service to the latest generation of clueless nervous newbies. The veterans don't need to identify superstars - they "work" on the chicas who appeal to them. So, no use identifying them as superstars because YMMV.

Good post Erip.

It certainly made me wrap my head around the topic of "superstars" a bit more and the dynamic of the internet.

I should define what "superstar" is for me: A chica that is Super Hot and provides Super Service. But I can live with just Super Hot sometimes.

ERIP wrote: "This is the new era...mum mongers keeping their favoritas off the boards"

Interesting... Internet during it's budding stage and the chica info flows, then the internet grows and expands and the chica info trickles.

I would attribute a major part of this perhaps to "outing": the leaking of info found on TJ internet sites to the chicas.

Another is what Erip touched upon as well.

ERIP wrote: "Nowadays most of us have developed a certain sophistication about TJ, the chicas, the Spanish language - and we wrangle good service from chicas who give crappy service to the latest generation of clueless nervous newbies."

Some mongers put in alot of work to attain a session quality above the average a certain chica usually provides(or has been established by posted reports). So a way to protect this investment is not to post about it. Some would say it is delusional to think a chica treats one or a select few clients better than the rest. Who knows? Thusly... YMMV.

Funny, I ran into Blazers this weekend and he made the same comment about "mums the word." I totally agree. And as for me, I'm guilty as charged; I have nothing to say.

Uhmmm, I'm sorry, but Tj deserves its' global reputation as being a poor mongering destination if you're at all concerned about looks/quality/atttitude/age/andleastofall, cost. If you think you're smarter than the game there and can consistently beat the standard old, "looks-challenged" overpriced, poor attitude girls syndrome, then, please, by all means carry on. Otherwise, the original poster is on to something, IMO.

FrontBC, at AB you forgot Smith (I think). I would say she qualifies for superstar status. In the daytime, Denise could be considered up there, she definitely gets my backing for one of the most reliable TJ providers.

Samantha at CC may have been considered a star at one time by reputation, but she's huge now. CC occasionally has attractive girls working, but in general I think the overall talent now is about the worst I've seen.

I think the best bets at CC at this time are Sandra, Monserrat, and Perlita (if you don't mind the extra weight).

D'art I agree, but the initial poster asked who the "new" superstars are and it was underneath the "Chicago Club" thread. I guess I was being a little too literal.

I do consider Smith a superstar but not a "new" one. I would consider her a "veteran" superstar. not as veteran as say "Tanya La Famosa"

I forgot to mention Michelle CC,the Michelle I mentioned above, moved to AB and became Paola. New bar but not a new face. She is from the same era as Smith imo. so not a "new" superstar.

I would consider Perlita a "new" superstar because she looks totally different compared to Perlita of before but she still has an appeal and is almost as busy as she used to be. Let's call it her "new superstar era".

Since we've switched over to AB. A chica named Claudia moved from LC to AB. She is very popular in AB and has a good rep. The meseros and porteros like her too. She is a relatively new face that is on her way to being a potential superstar.

CC celebrated its 35th anniversary last night. It was already quite crowded by 9:30 so I just made a few walkarounds and left. I was hoping for a glimpse of Perla or Karla.

dArt which Denise was you talking about in Ab? I think I know which one you talking about does she have bleach blonde hair from Columbia? she also stand alone by the entrance of the bar.

i recently came back from tijuana i try go often as the budget lets me. The variety it seems slim there still great variety of girls in the club and are of lower standard.There are some gems you look before you pick first girl. I usually drive there stay at the hotel la villa on 7th and Madera.I like because cheap cost $50 per night they Have good security. Theres Ricardos good place eat.Its like Denny here. They put me in suite a no rooms empty good price $80 If driving down there and get lost just ask Libre taxi take to hotel.As long know address they know where at. Most understand some English. The hotel has web site and internet connection. I fight guy because trys charge petty things i usually tell him i always come here. Then backs off.I went Chicago club i instantly saw marisol look walked around it was a thursday slow night. Maybe 30 girls all sizes shapes not bad looking. I sat down then went again look she looked hotest she was eyeing me since i got there.I said ok lets get drink she talked really like her not concided but i speak Spanish and she was from sinola Mexico looks 8 attitude 7 but her performance 9. I was kind here another pretty face bad bed. She must of been hot because she got into it she asking me eat it and i usually do not i usually ignore this because you never know. We both did each other 7 minutes then she got really hot she got top and came i came a little after.We had great time really nice woman several children and never fall i love bar girls rule number one.I said bye as walked down stairs then turned gave me her number asked how did learn do this well. I say years of practice in spanish.

Still some very pretty chicas there IMO. Not sure why many guys say they don't compare with AB.

having patronizing the Chicago Club about 10 times in June and July 2007, I have to say that i really like the place. all the times that I went there the place was never congested as bad as Adelitas was. there were two Saturdays that the place was almost emty, the girls didnt like it, but I did.
one note about you guys that frequented Chicago Club like me in July 2007 ,whats will all that middle eastern music being played ?
yes do they have their share of bad looking chicas but there are a few stunner almost all the time.
also I ordered a drink,, whiskey shot for one of my favorite girl and had to pay I think $14 for that.didnt bother to ask how much first, but I learned my lesson.
know thats highway robbery openly !!
and who's that Asian looking hot chica that works only on week-ends and goes out the door evey half hour with somebody ?

(Message edited by the_happy_monge on July 22, 2007)

I agree with you. Too much bs bad rap for CC. It is true that AB has more lookers every night of the week, but if you can't find somebody you really want to be with at CC on weekends you are plain and simple, gay.

CC is more fun and way more relaxed relaxed from getting seated to getting laid and all the steps in between. At AB, you can forget about getting seated during prime time, and often there are no steps in between club entry and panocha entry, which may be fine for the ultra horndogs but doesn't work at all for mongers who prefer to sip and savor rather than shoot.

There are a couple of asian looking chicas at CC but you are probably talking about Sara. She speaks fluent English, incredible body, and has many regulars. She occasionally used to dance in a Kimono with a fan and geisha hairdo and you would never believe she's not Japanese.

She recently experimented at AB but it didn't work for her (problem with CC for the chicas is the lack of business on most weekday nights), and she's back at CC.

(Message edited by erip on July 23, 2007)

Erip and Happy Mongerer,

Sara is definitely Hot, Asian in appearance, and high volume. A few weeks back I strolled in around 10pm and asked a waiter if Sara was in the house. He said she had just arrived, was in the changing room, and offered to fetch her for me.

A minute later she is high-stepping it towards the front door, the waiter is behind her trying his best to keep up. I straighten up in the booth, expecting her to slide in next to me. She zooms past with nary a wave or wink and disappears through the curtains. The waiter stops to inform me that she already had someone waiting for her upstairs!

I changed sides in the booth so as to face the curtains. When she reappeared I pounced and we immmediately headed back up. When we hit the top of the stairs to check in one of the talacheros said, "Sara, long time so see!" (or words to that effect) His delivery and her smirking response tell me that is the standard greeting to a busy busy chica.

BTW on one occasion I asked her if everyone thinks that she looks Asian. I was just trying to make conversation, not genuinely curious about the reaction to her appearance, but her answer suprised me. With a straight face she said nobody had said that before. I can't believe that (noting Erip's geisha reference), but I didn't pursue it.

Bosco

LOL! Que mentirosa! But perhaps nobody hanging out with Shaquille O'Neal ever suggests that he is tall.

But truly, her geisha themed dance was an absolutely conscious exploitation of her asian look.

So Erip, Is Sara Mexican ? Asian ? she is very hot looking.. seen too many gringos she takes upstairs,changed my mind. Decided that the Chicago Club had many more good looking girls then just her. I do admit , she's quite good looking, very petite, attractive, dances good and fucks too many gringos and asians !!!

Yo Happppyyyy-

She could be Mexican and Asian. One is a nationality, the other an ethnicity. In fact, she is latina and native of Mexico.

There are no actual asian girls working in TJ, but lots of asian looking chicas since mexicans with strong indigenous bloodlines tend to look asian.

As somebody who visits TJ for a couple of days once or twice per month, I never know what I'm going to find in CC. On a midweek trip this week (Wed/Thurs), CC was spinner heaven. I never saw so many tiny adorable chicas in CC as I did on Wednesday night. Some of them are former SGs.

There has always been a cross migration between AB and CC, but I was very surprised to see the legendary Rebecca who has been attached to AB for at least 8 years if not more, working at CC - and getting no customers at all on the quiet midweek evenings. She'll no doubt return to AB soon.

I also saw CC legend Gabby recently working at AB for the first time. Now she's back in CC. AB legend Ariel was at AB on Wednesday and CC on Thursday. Also observed many middle tier CC girls moved over to AB and some of them doing well.

It is amazing to realize that a good number of the CC girls do not earn a single peso on many weekday nights - even some of the very hot ones. They sit there all night and get zero business - not even a single ficha. I believe the club rules require them to work a certain number of weeknights to be able to come in on weekends. I guess it is true that these girls figure that if they get 2-3 sessions per week that they are still doing much better than in the rest of the employment market available to them.

erip wrote: "but I was very surprised to see the legendary Rebecca who has been attached to AB for at least 8 years if not more, working at CC - "

that surprises me she would go to CC, but i remember when she was young and pre-enhancements and pre-colored contacts working in CC. she was very cute.

overall, CC's atmosphere has changed dramatically. i remember when a ton of asian would hang out there. there are still some veterans but on the recent times i've camped out in CC it seem there was a high volume of guys just walking through and leaving.

thanks for the report about some new adorable chicas working. i'll have to check it out soon.

Rebecca is still in terrific shape for one who now fits into the "madura" class. She has never been able or willing to market herself with personality - never smiles unless contacted by a potential customer - old school all the way and great personality after monger initiates. No doubt she thinks of it as dignified, but it leaves her with short cash and a chica of her looks and service reputation (plus fluent English) should have been able to retire comfortably by now.

I too find the environment in CC a breath of fresh air, but I see management not being active enough to hold on to their girls or improve conditions for customers.

Recently they tried lowering drink prices for about 2 weeks, and now they're back to the normal $4/$8 drinks. When HK opens up it's expansion, said to be about June, I suspect they'll take a lot of girls from AB and CC.

It's sad, how the CC management lets such a great club waste away. I've even heard a couple of gringos talking out loud how they hope CC will go bankrupt so they could buy the place from the owners and run it right. But realistically, unless you're a Mexican citizen, I'd think it'd be extremely hard to buy and run a place like CC without external troubles.

Too bad, I'd like to see CC return to some of it's former glory. Clearly, there are girls working all around the country that are feeling the tough economic times that would make more money in CC than in their respective cities like Pueblo, Los Mochis, DF, etc.

DONīT GO TO CHICAGO CLUB

I guess I learned another TJ lesson – Donīt go to Chicago Club.

I ran into a couple of Bar Hong Kong Ficheras in the alley and they implored me to take them both to the Chicago club for a Non-Fichera drink.

I went for that. But when the bartender gave me the check (1 for each of them and mineral water for me) it was 200 pesos.

I queried the bartender and he said there are ONLY ficha drinks for women at that bar.

I left, pissed off. The manager followed me a half block and wanted to know what was wrong so i told him.

His response was īĻThatīs the rulesī.

So I told him I world tell the whole World and now I have.

Bar Hong Kong has better looking girls and more of them.

Stay the hell away from Chicago Club.

Nuff said.

I'd appreciate if you would elaborate. Did you yourself order the drinks or did the girls do their own ordering?

The bartender said nothing when the drinks were ordered "sin ficha"?

When the drinks were brought did the bartender give the girls their fichas?

About 5 years ago I brought a friend from San Diego down there and she ordered a drink and when it came it was half empty and we both laughed and said she doesn't work here. The waiter apologized and got her a real drink.

Really strange story as I have bought many beers sin ficha...sin problema in the last couple of months.

Although Senor Pauncho's information is cetainly useful to anyone who might go to the Chicago Club thinking they can order a drink for a girl from the outside "sin ficha," does his experience really go to the level of "DONīT GO TO CHICAGO CLUB"?

I can think of plenty of reasons not to go there or to any of the bars in Tijuana, but IMHO this is not one of them.

Yeah I have to agree. First of all 93% of our members are not taking a chica into Chicago Club, so this would not be an issue...and of course if the chicas are not asking you for the ficha, then they should gladly cash the ticket in and give you your money back.

Yeah, I hate it when you take a hooker to a hooker bar and the help treats them like hookers.

No, what happened is they treated Senor Pauncho like a mark.

I visited this week with a chica friend of mine. No pressure at all to buy chica beers...we drank at the regular price and regular size beers.

Chicago Club is mentioned in 2008/07 BrazilSpecialis - BrazilSpecialist in Tijuana

Chicago Club is mentioned in 2012/04 Costar - TJ Ten Years Later

Chicago Club is mentioned in 2012/09 dArtagnan - Anatomy of a Tijuana Roll Call

Chicago Club is mentioned in 2013/04 dArtagnan - Tijuana, A Turn For The Worse?

Chicago Club is mentioned in 2014/04 RobertX - One Weekend in Tijuana